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Danny 03-21-2005 04:00 PM

Uk Cherokee MPG the same as US? and spring questions..
 
Does anyone know whether the MPG computer in the Cherokee is
calibrated in UK or US gallons, when gallons is chosen as the measurement?


And, whilst I'm here, I'm getting the rear shocks replaced tomorrow.
I've also looked at replacing the read (leaf) springs, since I'm
towing a heavy load. One source told me that Jeep Cherokee diesel
springs were heavier duty, whilst the Jeep agent told me there was
only one type of spring ever fitted to the range. He said there was
no such thing as heavier duty springs or shock absorbers. I'm
replacing the shocks with after market gas shocks, which I assume
won't be any worse than what is on it now. Should the rear springs
still be fine after 7 years and 52k miles? (with no towing or heavy
loads that I know of) although the rear seems to sit a little low.
I've measured the vehicle height, which according to the manual is
16.1 - 16.3cm, and measured 16cm approx to below the roof bars.

--
Regards,
Danny

http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service)
http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/European online ordering for Malabar
Gold blend)
swap Z for above characters in email address to reply


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 03-21-2005 04:26 PM

Re: Uk Cherokee MPG the same as US? and spring questions..
 
Hi Dan,
Your computer is calibrated to use a fifteen to one air/gas ratio.
Air shocks are a good way to adjust for tongue or load weight:
http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...splay/ss-10101
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Danny wrote:
>
> Does anyone know whether the MPG computer in the Cherokee is
> calibrated in UK or US gallons, when gallons is chosen as the measurement?
>
> And, whilst I'm here, I'm getting the rear shocks replaced tomorrow.
> I've also looked at replacing the read (leaf) springs, since I'm
> towing a heavy load. One source told me that Jeep Cherokee diesel
> springs were heavier duty, whilst the Jeep agent told me there was
> only one type of spring ever fitted to the range. He said there was
> no such thing as heavier duty springs or shock absorbers. I'm
> replacing the shocks with after market gas shocks, which I assume
> won't be any worse than what is on it now. Should the rear springs
> still be fine after 7 years and 52k miles? (with no towing or heavy
> loads that I know of) although the rear seems to sit a little low.
> I've measured the vehicle height, which according to the manual is
> 16.1 - 16.3cm, and measured 16cm approx to below the roof bars.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Danny
>
> http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
> http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service)
> http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/European online ordering for Malabar
> Gold blend)
> swap Z for above characters in email address to reply


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 03-21-2005 04:26 PM

Re: Uk Cherokee MPG the same as US? and spring questions..
 
Hi Dan,
Your computer is calibrated to use a fifteen to one air/gas ratio.
Air shocks are a good way to adjust for tongue or load weight:
http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...splay/ss-10101
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Danny wrote:
>
> Does anyone know whether the MPG computer in the Cherokee is
> calibrated in UK or US gallons, when gallons is chosen as the measurement?
>
> And, whilst I'm here, I'm getting the rear shocks replaced tomorrow.
> I've also looked at replacing the read (leaf) springs, since I'm
> towing a heavy load. One source told me that Jeep Cherokee diesel
> springs were heavier duty, whilst the Jeep agent told me there was
> only one type of spring ever fitted to the range. He said there was
> no such thing as heavier duty springs or shock absorbers. I'm
> replacing the shocks with after market gas shocks, which I assume
> won't be any worse than what is on it now. Should the rear springs
> still be fine after 7 years and 52k miles? (with no towing or heavy
> loads that I know of) although the rear seems to sit a little low.
> I've measured the vehicle height, which according to the manual is
> 16.1 - 16.3cm, and measured 16cm approx to below the roof bars.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Danny
>
> http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
> http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service)
> http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/European online ordering for Malabar
> Gold blend)
> swap Z for above characters in email address to reply


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 03-21-2005 04:26 PM

Re: Uk Cherokee MPG the same as US? and spring questions..
 
Hi Dan,
Your computer is calibrated to use a fifteen to one air/gas ratio.
Air shocks are a good way to adjust for tongue or load weight:
http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...splay/ss-10101
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Danny wrote:
>
> Does anyone know whether the MPG computer in the Cherokee is
> calibrated in UK or US gallons, when gallons is chosen as the measurement?
>
> And, whilst I'm here, I'm getting the rear shocks replaced tomorrow.
> I've also looked at replacing the read (leaf) springs, since I'm
> towing a heavy load. One source told me that Jeep Cherokee diesel
> springs were heavier duty, whilst the Jeep agent told me there was
> only one type of spring ever fitted to the range. He said there was
> no such thing as heavier duty springs or shock absorbers. I'm
> replacing the shocks with after market gas shocks, which I assume
> won't be any worse than what is on it now. Should the rear springs
> still be fine after 7 years and 52k miles? (with no towing or heavy
> loads that I know of) although the rear seems to sit a little low.
> I've measured the vehicle height, which according to the manual is
> 16.1 - 16.3cm, and measured 16cm approx to below the roof bars.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Danny
>
> http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
> http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service)
> http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/European online ordering for Malabar
> Gold blend)
> swap Z for above characters in email address to reply


Danny 03-22-2005 03:24 AM

Re: Uk Cherokee MPG the same as US? and spring questions..
 
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Hi Dan,
> Your computer is calibrated to use a fifteen to one air/gas ratio.
> Air shocks are a good way to adjust for tongue or load weight:
> http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...splay/ss-10101


Thanks Bill. Getting Jeep parts here from anywhere other than main
dealer is difficult.

I'm not sure you got the MPG bit - US and Imperial gallons are
different, so when the mileage/consumption is selected on the overhead
display in mpg are they US or Imperial? Your info was useful though
- does that mean I should try and work it out myself :)


--
Regards,
Danny

http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service)
http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/European online ordering for Malabar
Gold blend)
swap Z for above characters in email address to reply


Danny 03-22-2005 03:24 AM

Re: Uk Cherokee MPG the same as US? and spring questions..
 
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Hi Dan,
> Your computer is calibrated to use a fifteen to one air/gas ratio.
> Air shocks are a good way to adjust for tongue or load weight:
> http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...splay/ss-10101


Thanks Bill. Getting Jeep parts here from anywhere other than main
dealer is difficult.

I'm not sure you got the MPG bit - US and Imperial gallons are
different, so when the mileage/consumption is selected on the overhead
display in mpg are they US or Imperial? Your info was useful though
- does that mean I should try and work it out myself :)


--
Regards,
Danny

http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service)
http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/European online ordering for Malabar
Gold blend)
swap Z for above characters in email address to reply


Danny 03-22-2005 03:24 AM

Re: Uk Cherokee MPG the same as US? and spring questions..
 
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Hi Dan,
> Your computer is calibrated to use a fifteen to one air/gas ratio.
> Air shocks are a good way to adjust for tongue or load weight:
> http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...splay/ss-10101


Thanks Bill. Getting Jeep parts here from anywhere other than main
dealer is difficult.

I'm not sure you got the MPG bit - US and Imperial gallons are
different, so when the mileage/consumption is selected on the overhead
display in mpg are they US or Imperial? Your info was useful though
- does that mean I should try and work it out myself :)


--
Regards,
Danny

http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service)
http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/European online ordering for Malabar
Gold blend)
swap Z for above characters in email address to reply


Snow 03-22-2005 07:03 AM

Re: Uk Cherokee MPG the same as US? and spring questions..
 
It should be measured in a real Gallon not the unit 'mericans call a gallon.

Snow...

"Danny" <danny@nospam.gaggia-espresso.com> wrote in message
news:3aa2i8F68appgU1@individual.net...
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>> Hi Dan,
>> Your computer is calibrated to use a fifteen to one air/gas ratio.
>> Air shocks are a good way to adjust for tongue or load weight:
>> http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...splay/ss-10101

>
> Thanks Bill. Getting Jeep parts here from anywhere other than main dealer
> is difficult.
>
> I'm not sure you got the MPG bit - US and Imperial gallons are different,
> so when the mileage/consumption is selected on the overhead display in mpg
> are they US or Imperial? Your info was useful though - does that mean I
> should try and work it out myself :)
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Danny
>
> http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
> http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service)
> http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/European online ordering for Malabar Gold
> blend)
> swap Z for above characters in email address to reply
>




Snow 03-22-2005 07:03 AM

Re: Uk Cherokee MPG the same as US? and spring questions..
 
It should be measured in a real Gallon not the unit 'mericans call a gallon.

Snow...

"Danny" <danny@nospam.gaggia-espresso.com> wrote in message
news:3aa2i8F68appgU1@individual.net...
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>> Hi Dan,
>> Your computer is calibrated to use a fifteen to one air/gas ratio.
>> Air shocks are a good way to adjust for tongue or load weight:
>> http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...splay/ss-10101

>
> Thanks Bill. Getting Jeep parts here from anywhere other than main dealer
> is difficult.
>
> I'm not sure you got the MPG bit - US and Imperial gallons are different,
> so when the mileage/consumption is selected on the overhead display in mpg
> are they US or Imperial? Your info was useful though - does that mean I
> should try and work it out myself :)
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Danny
>
> http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
> http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service)
> http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/European online ordering for Malabar Gold
> blend)
> swap Z for above characters in email address to reply
>




Snow 03-22-2005 07:03 AM

Re: Uk Cherokee MPG the same as US? and spring questions..
 
It should be measured in a real Gallon not the unit 'mericans call a gallon.

Snow...

"Danny" <danny@nospam.gaggia-espresso.com> wrote in message
news:3aa2i8F68appgU1@individual.net...
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>> Hi Dan,
>> Your computer is calibrated to use a fifteen to one air/gas ratio.
>> Air shocks are a good way to adjust for tongue or load weight:
>> http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...splay/ss-10101

>
> Thanks Bill. Getting Jeep parts here from anywhere other than main dealer
> is difficult.
>
> I'm not sure you got the MPG bit - US and Imperial gallons are different,
> so when the mileage/consumption is selected on the overhead display in mpg
> are they US or Imperial? Your info was useful though - does that mean I
> should try and work it out myself :)
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Danny
>
> http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
> http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service)
> http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/European online ordering for Malabar Gold
> blend)
> swap Z for above characters in email address to reply
>




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 03-22-2005 01:38 PM

Re: Uk Cherokee MPG the same as US? and spring questions..
 
Nope, the Real Gallon is down here. It's called an Imperial Gallon
in the Great White North.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Snow wrote:
>
> It should be measured in a real Gallon not the unit 'mericans call a gallon.
>
> Snow...


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 03-22-2005 01:38 PM

Re: Uk Cherokee MPG the same as US? and spring questions..
 
Nope, the Real Gallon is down here. It's called an Imperial Gallon
in the Great White North.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Snow wrote:
>
> It should be measured in a real Gallon not the unit 'mericans call a gallon.
>
> Snow...


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 03-22-2005 01:38 PM

Re: Uk Cherokee MPG the same as US? and spring questions..
 
Nope, the Real Gallon is down here. It's called an Imperial Gallon
in the Great White North.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Snow wrote:
>
> It should be measured in a real Gallon not the unit 'mericans call a gallon.
>
> Snow...


FrankW 03-22-2005 02:10 PM

Re: Uk Cherokee MPG the same as US? and spring questions..
 
Or 4.546 imperial liters :-)

F.Y.I. 1 US gal = 3.7854 US liters

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:

> Nope, the Real Gallon is down here. It's called an Imperial Gallon
> in the Great White North.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Snow wrote:
>
>>It should be measured in a real Gallon not the unit 'mericans call a gallon.
>>
>>Snow...



FrankW 03-22-2005 02:10 PM

Re: Uk Cherokee MPG the same as US? and spring questions..
 
Or 4.546 imperial liters :-)

F.Y.I. 1 US gal = 3.7854 US liters

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:

> Nope, the Real Gallon is down here. It's called an Imperial Gallon
> in the Great White North.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Snow wrote:
>
>>It should be measured in a real Gallon not the unit 'mericans call a gallon.
>>
>>Snow...



FrankW 03-22-2005 02:10 PM

Re: Uk Cherokee MPG the same as US? and spring questions..
 
Or 4.546 imperial liters :-)

F.Y.I. 1 US gal = 3.7854 US liters

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:

> Nope, the Real Gallon is down here. It's called an Imperial Gallon
> in the Great White North.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Snow wrote:
>
>>It should be measured in a real Gallon not the unit 'mericans call a gallon.
>>
>>Snow...



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 03-22-2005 02:27 PM

Re: Uk Cherokee MPG the same as US? and spring questions..
 
That would make un-American metric system not very accurate. ;-)
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

FrankW wrote:
>
> Or 4.546 imperial liters :-)
>
> F.Y.I. 1 US gal = 3.7854 US liters


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 03-22-2005 02:27 PM

Re: Uk Cherokee MPG the same as US? and spring questions..
 
That would make un-American metric system not very accurate. ;-)
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

FrankW wrote:
>
> Or 4.546 imperial liters :-)
>
> F.Y.I. 1 US gal = 3.7854 US liters


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 03-22-2005 02:27 PM

Re: Uk Cherokee MPG the same as US? and spring questions..
 
That would make un-American metric system not very accurate. ;-)
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

FrankW wrote:
>
> Or 4.546 imperial liters :-)
>
> F.Y.I. 1 US gal = 3.7854 US liters


Mike Romain 03-22-2005 03:45 PM

Re: Uk Cherokee MPG the same as US? and spring questions..
 
I doubt it....

I cannot see the americans making anything with the Imperial gallon as a
unit just for one small market. But I could be off there.

When I state mine now, I usually use L/100km or US gal as a reference.

I mean the boys with the Wranglers would crap if I let them know my CJ7
gets a sweet 28+ mpg. LOL!

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Snow wrote:
>
> It should be measured in a real Gallon not the unit 'mericans call a gallon.
>
> Snow...
>
> "Danny" <danny@nospam.gaggia-espresso.com> wrote in message
> news:3aa2i8F68appgU1@individual.net...
> > L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> >> Hi Dan,
> >> Your computer is calibrated to use a fifteen to one air/gas ratio.
> >> Air shocks are a good way to adjust for tongue or load weight:
> >> http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...splay/ss-10101

> >
> > Thanks Bill. Getting Jeep parts here from anywhere other than main dealer
> > is difficult.
> >
> > I'm not sure you got the MPG bit - US and Imperial gallons are different,
> > so when the mileage/consumption is selected on the overhead display in mpg
> > are they US or Imperial? Your info was useful though - does that mean I
> > should try and work it out myself :)
> >
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Danny
> >
> > http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
> > http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service)
> > http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/European online ordering for Malabar Gold
> > blend)
> > swap Z for above characters in email address to reply
> >


Mike Romain 03-22-2005 03:45 PM

Re: Uk Cherokee MPG the same as US? and spring questions..
 
I doubt it....

I cannot see the americans making anything with the Imperial gallon as a
unit just for one small market. But I could be off there.

When I state mine now, I usually use L/100km or US gal as a reference.

I mean the boys with the Wranglers would crap if I let them know my CJ7
gets a sweet 28+ mpg. LOL!

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Snow wrote:
>
> It should be measured in a real Gallon not the unit 'mericans call a gallon.
>
> Snow...
>
> "Danny" <danny@nospam.gaggia-espresso.com> wrote in message
> news:3aa2i8F68appgU1@individual.net...
> > L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> >> Hi Dan,
> >> Your computer is calibrated to use a fifteen to one air/gas ratio.
> >> Air shocks are a good way to adjust for tongue or load weight:
> >> http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...splay/ss-10101

> >
> > Thanks Bill. Getting Jeep parts here from anywhere other than main dealer
> > is difficult.
> >
> > I'm not sure you got the MPG bit - US and Imperial gallons are different,
> > so when the mileage/consumption is selected on the overhead display in mpg
> > are they US or Imperial? Your info was useful though - does that mean I
> > should try and work it out myself :)
> >
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Danny
> >
> > http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
> > http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service)
> > http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/European online ordering for Malabar Gold
> > blend)
> > swap Z for above characters in email address to reply
> >


Mike Romain 03-22-2005 03:45 PM

Re: Uk Cherokee MPG the same as US? and spring questions..
 
I doubt it....

I cannot see the americans making anything with the Imperial gallon as a
unit just for one small market. But I could be off there.

When I state mine now, I usually use L/100km or US gal as a reference.

I mean the boys with the Wranglers would crap if I let them know my CJ7
gets a sweet 28+ mpg. LOL!

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Snow wrote:
>
> It should be measured in a real Gallon not the unit 'mericans call a gallon.
>
> Snow...
>
> "Danny" <danny@nospam.gaggia-espresso.com> wrote in message
> news:3aa2i8F68appgU1@individual.net...
> > L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> >> Hi Dan,
> >> Your computer is calibrated to use a fifteen to one air/gas ratio.
> >> Air shocks are a good way to adjust for tongue or load weight:
> >> http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...splay/ss-10101

> >
> > Thanks Bill. Getting Jeep parts here from anywhere other than main dealer
> > is difficult.
> >
> > I'm not sure you got the MPG bit - US and Imperial gallons are different,
> > so when the mileage/consumption is selected on the overhead display in mpg
> > are they US or Imperial? Your info was useful though - does that mean I
> > should try and work it out myself :)
> >
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Danny
> >
> > http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
> > http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service)
> > http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/European online ordering for Malabar Gold
> > blend)
> > swap Z for above characters in email address to reply
> >


Danny 03-22-2005 05:15 PM

Re: Uk Cherokee MPG the same as US? and spring questions..
 
Mike Romain wrote:
> I doubt it....
>
> I cannot see the americans making anything with the Imperial gallon as a
> unit just for one small market. But I could be off there.


Actually, it's easy to check - I'll just look at the metric and
imperial values and work it out. By the way, the UK was by far the
biggest market when the Cherokee was launched in Europe.

Later...

Using the following formula:

235.2146 ÷ x l/100 km = y mpg (US liquid gallon), or
282.481 ÷ x l/100 km = y mpg (Imperial gallon

means that my trip computer showing 14.1 l/100km equalling 20mpg means
that the computer is calibrated to imperial gallons :(


--
Regards,
Danny

http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service)
http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/European online ordering for Malabar
Gold blend)
swap Z for above characters in email address to reply


Danny 03-22-2005 05:15 PM

Re: Uk Cherokee MPG the same as US? and spring questions..
 
Mike Romain wrote:
> I doubt it....
>
> I cannot see the americans making anything with the Imperial gallon as a
> unit just for one small market. But I could be off there.


Actually, it's easy to check - I'll just look at the metric and
imperial values and work it out. By the way, the UK was by far the
biggest market when the Cherokee was launched in Europe.

Later...

Using the following formula:

235.2146 ÷ x l/100 km = y mpg (US liquid gallon), or
282.481 ÷ x l/100 km = y mpg (Imperial gallon

means that my trip computer showing 14.1 l/100km equalling 20mpg means
that the computer is calibrated to imperial gallons :(


--
Regards,
Danny

http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service)
http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/European online ordering for Malabar
Gold blend)
swap Z for above characters in email address to reply


Danny 03-22-2005 05:15 PM

Re: Uk Cherokee MPG the same as US? and spring questions..
 
Mike Romain wrote:
> I doubt it....
>
> I cannot see the americans making anything with the Imperial gallon as a
> unit just for one small market. But I could be off there.


Actually, it's easy to check - I'll just look at the metric and
imperial values and work it out. By the way, the UK was by far the
biggest market when the Cherokee was launched in Europe.

Later...

Using the following formula:

235.2146 ÷ x l/100 km = y mpg (US liquid gallon), or
282.481 ÷ x l/100 km = y mpg (Imperial gallon

means that my trip computer showing 14.1 l/100km equalling 20mpg means
that the computer is calibrated to imperial gallons :(


--
Regards,
Danny

http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service)
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Steve 03-23-2005 04:09 PM

Re: Uk Cherokee MPG the same as US? and spring questions..
 
It all comes down to booze. In olde England, they had different gallons
for measuring different commodities. In 1824 the Brits chucked out all
of their various gallons and defined an Imperial gallon to be 10 lb of
water, which about equals the olde English beer gallon. In 1836, the US
standardized on Queen Anne's English wine gallon (traditionally 8 troy
pounds of wine).

Not sure if it deserves the title 'Real Gallon', but of the many gallons
defined through history, your English wine gallon is the last one
standing. By the way Bill, the gallon originated in France. ;)

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org


L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Nope, the Real Gallon is down here. It's called an Imperial Gallon
> in the Great White North.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Snow wrote:
>
>>It should be measured in a real Gallon not the unit 'mericans call a gallon.
>>
>>Snow...


Steve 03-23-2005 04:09 PM

Re: Uk Cherokee MPG the same as US? and spring questions..
 
It all comes down to booze. In olde England, they had different gallons
for measuring different commodities. In 1824 the Brits chucked out all
of their various gallons and defined an Imperial gallon to be 10 lb of
water, which about equals the olde English beer gallon. In 1836, the US
standardized on Queen Anne's English wine gallon (traditionally 8 troy
pounds of wine).

Not sure if it deserves the title 'Real Gallon', but of the many gallons
defined through history, your English wine gallon is the last one
standing. By the way Bill, the gallon originated in France. ;)

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org


L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Nope, the Real Gallon is down here. It's called an Imperial Gallon
> in the Great White North.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Snow wrote:
>
>>It should be measured in a real Gallon not the unit 'mericans call a gallon.
>>
>>Snow...


Steve 03-23-2005 04:09 PM

Re: Uk Cherokee MPG the same as US? and spring questions..
 
It all comes down to booze. In olde England, they had different gallons
for measuring different commodities. In 1824 the Brits chucked out all
of their various gallons and defined an Imperial gallon to be 10 lb of
water, which about equals the olde English beer gallon. In 1836, the US
standardized on Queen Anne's English wine gallon (traditionally 8 troy
pounds of wine).

Not sure if it deserves the title 'Real Gallon', but of the many gallons
defined through history, your English wine gallon is the last one
standing. By the way Bill, the gallon originated in France. ;)

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org


L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Nope, the Real Gallon is down here. It's called an Imperial Gallon
> in the Great White North.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Snow wrote:
>
>>It should be measured in a real Gallon not the unit 'mericans call a gallon.
>>
>>Snow...


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 03-23-2005 05:31 PM

Re: Uk Cherokee MPG the same as US? and spring questions..
 
I'll drink to that.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Steve wrote:
>
> It all comes down to booze. In olde England, they had different gallons
> for measuring different commodities. In 1824 the Brits chucked out all
> of their various gallons and defined an Imperial gallon to be 10 lb of
> water, which about equals the olde English beer gallon. In 1836, the US
> standardized on Queen Anne's English wine gallon (traditionally 8 troy
> pounds of wine).
>
> Not sure if it deserves the title 'Real Gallon', but of the many gallons
> defined through history, your English wine gallon is the last one
> standing. By the way Bill, the gallon originated in France. ;)
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 03-23-2005 05:31 PM

Re: Uk Cherokee MPG the same as US? and spring questions..
 
I'll drink to that.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Steve wrote:
>
> It all comes down to booze. In olde England, they had different gallons
> for measuring different commodities. In 1824 the Brits chucked out all
> of their various gallons and defined an Imperial gallon to be 10 lb of
> water, which about equals the olde English beer gallon. In 1836, the US
> standardized on Queen Anne's English wine gallon (traditionally 8 troy
> pounds of wine).
>
> Not sure if it deserves the title 'Real Gallon', but of the many gallons
> defined through history, your English wine gallon is the last one
> standing. By the way Bill, the gallon originated in France. ;)
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 03-23-2005 05:31 PM

Re: Uk Cherokee MPG the same as US? and spring questions..
 
I'll drink to that.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Steve wrote:
>
> It all comes down to booze. In olde England, they had different gallons
> for measuring different commodities. In 1824 the Brits chucked out all
> of their various gallons and defined an Imperial gallon to be 10 lb of
> water, which about equals the olde English beer gallon. In 1836, the US
> standardized on Queen Anne's English wine gallon (traditionally 8 troy
> pounds of wine).
>
> Not sure if it deserves the title 'Real Gallon', but of the many gallons
> defined through history, your English wine gallon is the last one
> standing. By the way Bill, the gallon originated in France. ;)
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org


Dave Milne 03-29-2005 02:16 PM

Re: Uk Cherokee MPG the same as US? and spring questions..
 
The US just wanted to boast they could drink more beer than us :-)

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
news:3ae47tF68hkpeU1@individual.net...
> It all comes down to booze. In olde England, they had different gallons
> for measuring different commodities. In 1824 the Brits chucked out all
> of their various gallons and defined an Imperial gallon to be 10 lb of
> water, which about equals the olde English beer gallon. In 1836, the US
> standardized on Queen Anne's English wine gallon (traditionally 8 troy
> pounds of wine).
>
> Not sure if it deserves the title 'Real Gallon', but of the many gallons
> defined through history, your English wine gallon is the last one
> standing. By the way Bill, the gallon originated in France. ;)
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > Nope, the Real Gallon is down here. It's called an Imperial Gallon
> > in the Great White North.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Snow wrote:
> >
> >>It should be measured in a real Gallon not the unit 'mericans call a

gallon.
> >>
> >>Snow...




Dave Milne 03-29-2005 02:16 PM

Re: Uk Cherokee MPG the same as US? and spring questions..
 
The US just wanted to boast they could drink more beer than us :-)

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
news:3ae47tF68hkpeU1@individual.net...
> It all comes down to booze. In olde England, they had different gallons
> for measuring different commodities. In 1824 the Brits chucked out all
> of their various gallons and defined an Imperial gallon to be 10 lb of
> water, which about equals the olde English beer gallon. In 1836, the US
> standardized on Queen Anne's English wine gallon (traditionally 8 troy
> pounds of wine).
>
> Not sure if it deserves the title 'Real Gallon', but of the many gallons
> defined through history, your English wine gallon is the last one
> standing. By the way Bill, the gallon originated in France. ;)
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > Nope, the Real Gallon is down here. It's called an Imperial Gallon
> > in the Great White North.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Snow wrote:
> >
> >>It should be measured in a real Gallon not the unit 'mericans call a

gallon.
> >>
> >>Snow...




Dave Milne 03-29-2005 02:16 PM

Re: Uk Cherokee MPG the same as US? and spring questions..
 
The US just wanted to boast they could drink more beer than us :-)

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
news:3ae47tF68hkpeU1@individual.net...
> It all comes down to booze. In olde England, they had different gallons
> for measuring different commodities. In 1824 the Brits chucked out all
> of their various gallons and defined an Imperial gallon to be 10 lb of
> water, which about equals the olde English beer gallon. In 1836, the US
> standardized on Queen Anne's English wine gallon (traditionally 8 troy
> pounds of wine).
>
> Not sure if it deserves the title 'Real Gallon', but of the many gallons
> defined through history, your English wine gallon is the last one
> standing. By the way Bill, the gallon originated in France. ;)
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > Nope, the Real Gallon is down here. It's called an Imperial Gallon
> > in the Great White North.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Snow wrote:
> >
> >>It should be measured in a real Gallon not the unit 'mericans call a

gallon.
> >>
> >>Snow...




Steve 03-30-2005 12:12 PM

Re: Uk Cherokee MPG the same as US? and spring questions..
 
The olde Scottish gallon was three times the volume of the English Beer
gallon, so jump in on the next mpg thread and claim 'a sweet 75 mpg' on
your TJ.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org


Dave Milne wrote:
> The US just wanted to boast they could drink more beer than us :-)
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
> news:3ae47tF68hkpeU1@individual.net...
>
>>It all comes down to booze.


Steve 03-30-2005 12:12 PM

Re: Uk Cherokee MPG the same as US? and spring questions..
 
The olde Scottish gallon was three times the volume of the English Beer
gallon, so jump in on the next mpg thread and claim 'a sweet 75 mpg' on
your TJ.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org


Dave Milne wrote:
> The US just wanted to boast they could drink more beer than us :-)
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
> news:3ae47tF68hkpeU1@individual.net...
>
>>It all comes down to booze.


Steve 03-30-2005 12:12 PM

Re: Uk Cherokee MPG the same as US? and spring questions..
 
The olde Scottish gallon was three times the volume of the English Beer
gallon, so jump in on the next mpg thread and claim 'a sweet 75 mpg' on
your TJ.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org


Dave Milne wrote:
> The US just wanted to boast they could drink more beer than us :-)
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
> news:3ae47tF68hkpeU1@individual.net...
>
>>It all comes down to booze.



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