But Bill, he can start the car by simply turning the ignition without having
the key. Basically, the locking part of the ignition switch is gone, which
is what he was asking about.




"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:424B9A61.B944D32F@***.net...
> That's why new cars for tha past twenty five years have a locked
> steering wheel and transmission, anyone may start the engine by jumping
> the solenoid.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> bizbee wrote:
> >
> > What am I in for here? I have a '80 CJ5. I discovered last week that I
> > can start it without a key, even when it's in the locked position. Is
> > this something I'm going to get so pissed off at trying to replace it
> > that I'm better off just doling it out, or is it relatively straight
> > forward?
> > No, I'm not going to tell you where I live, it's in the garage anyway.
> > Thanks.

 

But Bill, he can start the car by simply turning the ignition without having
the key. Basically, the locking part of the ignition switch is gone, which
is what he was asking about.




"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:424B9A61.B944D32F@***.net...
> That's why new cars for tha past twenty five years have a locked
> steering wheel and transmission, anyone may start the engine by jumping
> the solenoid.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> bizbee wrote:
> >
> > What am I in for here? I have a '80 CJ5. I discovered last week that I
> > can start it without a key, even when it's in the locked position. Is
> > this something I'm going to get so pissed off at trying to replace it
> > that I'm better off just doling it out, or is it relatively straight
> > forward?
> > No, I'm not going to tell you where I live, it's in the garage anyway.
> > Thanks.

 

But Bill, he can start the car by simply turning the ignition without having
the key. Basically, the locking part of the ignition switch is gone, which
is what he was asking about.




"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:424B9A61.B944D32F@***.net...
> That's why new cars for tha past twenty five years have a locked
> steering wheel and transmission, anyone may start the engine by jumping
> the solenoid.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> bizbee wrote:
> >
> > What am I in for here? I have a '80 CJ5. I discovered last week that I
> > can start it without a key, even when it's in the locked position. Is
> > this something I'm going to get so pissed off at trying to replace it
> > that I'm better off just doling it out, or is it relatively straight
> > forward?
> > No, I'm not going to tell you where I live, it's in the garage anyway.
> > Thanks.

 

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 22:36:17 -0800 in <424B9A61.B944D32F@***.net>,
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> graced the world with this
thought:

> That's why new cars for tha past twenty five years have a locked
>steering wheel and transmission, anyone may start the engine by jumping
>the solenoid.

Well, the steering wheel locks, but the ignition doesn't... and since
the steering wheel lock appears to be a nylong pin that fits through a
hole, I assume that can be broken pretty easily.

 

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 22:36:17 -0800 in <424B9A61.B944D32F@***.net>,
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> graced the world with this
thought:

> That's why new cars for tha past twenty five years have a locked
>steering wheel and transmission, anyone may start the engine by jumping
>the solenoid.

Well, the steering wheel locks, but the ignition doesn't... and since
the steering wheel lock appears to be a nylong pin that fits through a
hole, I assume that can be broken pretty easily.

 

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 22:36:17 -0800 in <424B9A61.B944D32F@***.net>,
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> graced the world with this
thought:

> That's why new cars for tha past twenty five years have a locked
>steering wheel and transmission, anyone may start the engine by jumping
>the solenoid.

Well, the steering wheel locks, but the ignition doesn't... and since
the steering wheel lock appears to be a nylong pin that fits through a
hole, I assume that can be broken pretty easily.

 

On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 08:58:10 -0500 in
<424C01F2.E0C8EC83@sympatico.ca>, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
graced the world with this thought:

>It's not a difficult job, but a bit time consuming. You will need a GM
>lock plate tool that most auto stores will lend you and you will likely
>need to drill out a rivet on the cylinder itself if it is a column lock.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
Indeed, it is a column lock. Maybe I'll just take it to the shop...
thanks

>bizbee wrote:
>>
>> What am I in for here? I have a '80 CJ5. I discovered last week that I
>> can start it without a key, even when it's in the locked position. Is
>> this something I'm going to get so pissed off at trying to replace it
>> that I'm better off just doling it out, or is it relatively straight
>> forward?
>> No, I'm not going to tell you where I live, it's in the garage anyway.
>> Thanks.

 

On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 08:58:10 -0500 in
<424C01F2.E0C8EC83@sympatico.ca>, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
graced the world with this thought:

>It's not a difficult job, but a bit time consuming. You will need a GM
>lock plate tool that most auto stores will lend you and you will likely
>need to drill out a rivet on the cylinder itself if it is a column lock.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
Indeed, it is a column lock. Maybe I'll just take it to the shop...
thanks

>bizbee wrote:
>>
>> What am I in for here? I have a '80 CJ5. I discovered last week that I
>> can start it without a key, even when it's in the locked position. Is
>> this something I'm going to get so pissed off at trying to replace it
>> that I'm better off just doling it out, or is it relatively straight
>> forward?
>> No, I'm not going to tell you where I live, it's in the garage anyway.
>> Thanks.

 

On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 08:58:10 -0500 in
<424C01F2.E0C8EC83@sympatico.ca>, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
graced the world with this thought:

>It's not a difficult job, but a bit time consuming. You will need a GM
>lock plate tool that most auto stores will lend you and you will likely
>need to drill out a rivet on the cylinder itself if it is a column lock.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
Indeed, it is a column lock. Maybe I'll just take it to the shop...
thanks

>bizbee wrote:
>>
>> What am I in for here? I have a '80 CJ5. I discovered last week that I
>> can start it without a key, even when it's in the locked position. Is
>> this something I'm going to get so pissed off at trying to replace it
>> that I'm better off just doling it out, or is it relatively straight
>> forward?
>> No, I'm not going to tell you where I live, it's in the garage anyway.
>> Thanks.

 

On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:12:58 -0800 in
<MtKdnaFWk6PhstHfRVn-vg@ez2.net>, "Jeff Strickland"
<spamcatcher@yahoo.net> graced the world with this thought:

>Mine can start in any position except Locked. Once the key is turned out of
>the locked position, I can take it out completely and leave it in my pocket
>until the ignition is turned back to the Locked position again.
>
>It is not too difficult to replace the lockset, but you will need to
>disassemble the steering column in the area. You will need a special tool to
>get the Lock Plate off to actually get to the lockset. The lockset itself it
>a standard GM part that you should be able to get from any parts store. The
>Special Tool is also available, it should cost something under $10, and
>AutoZone will let you use theirs for free. You will also need the steering
>wheel puller.
>
>
arrrgh... I forgot about pulling the steering wheel...