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Fruitfly 01-01-2006 06:06 AM

Tyre advice needed
 
Hi Everyone,
I've been a lurker here for the last 3 months, ever since I got my XJ. Every
time I've had a question, the answer's been here before I even got to ask
it. You guys and gals are a wealth of info, so I thought I'd ask for some
advice.
I need (read want) new tyres on my XJ to replace a near new set of wrangler
gsa's. These are ok on the highway, but as soon as you show them a bit of
mud they turn to slicks.My XJ's a '95 Classic, and is completely stock.
Unfortunately, being a '95 Classic it doesn't have a trac-lok diff, so tyres
become a bit more important.
I've narrowed the choice down to 3, all 235/75R15.
1- Cooper STT
2-Goodyear Wrangler MTR
3-Kumho Venturer 834
Most of the tracks we travel are rocks and mud,but the conditions can change
every 5 minutes.
I've been told I can fit 30x9.5's, but these are nearly 2" bigger then
stock. In the police state I live in, they use radar cameras to book you for
speeding, so I don't want to have the speedo out too much.
Any advice or experiences with these tyres would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Happy New Year.
Larry in Melbourne Australia.



Matt Osborn 01-01-2006 12:12 PM

Re: Tyre advice needed
 
I just replaced my Goodyear Wrangler GSA tires with Firestone
Destination AT tires. The noise level is about the same (maybe little
higher on some surfaces) but the traction is much better.

It's snow and ice here in Minnesota, so I don't know how they are in
the mud.

On Sun, 1 Jan 2006 22:06:47 +1100, "Fruitfly" <lamvan@optusnet.com.au>
wrote:

>Hi Everyone,
>I've been a lurker here for the last 3 months, ever since I got my XJ. Every
>time I've had a question, the answer's been here before I even got to ask
>it. You guys and gals are a wealth of info, so I thought I'd ask for some
>advice.
>I need (read want) new tyres on my XJ to replace a near new set of wrangler
>gsa's. These are ok on the highway, but as soon as you show them a bit of
>mud they turn to slicks.My XJ's a '95 Classic, and is completely stock.
>Unfortunately, being a '95 Classic it doesn't have a trac-lok diff, so tyres
>become a bit more important.
>I've narrowed the choice down to 3, all 235/75R15.
>1- Cooper STT
>2-Goodyear Wrangler MTR
>3-Kumho Venturer 834
>Most of the tracks we travel are rocks and mud,but the conditions can change
>every 5 minutes.
>I've been told I can fit 30x9.5's, but these are nearly 2" bigger then
>stock. In the police state I live in, they use radar cameras to book you for
>speeding, so I don't want to have the speedo out too much.
>Any advice or experiences with these tyres would be appreciated.
>Thanks in advance,
>Happy New Year.
>Larry in Melbourne Australia.
>




-- msosborn at msosborn dot com

Matt Osborn 01-01-2006 12:12 PM

Re: Tyre advice needed
 
I just replaced my Goodyear Wrangler GSA tires with Firestone
Destination AT tires. The noise level is about the same (maybe little
higher on some surfaces) but the traction is much better.

It's snow and ice here in Minnesota, so I don't know how they are in
the mud.

On Sun, 1 Jan 2006 22:06:47 +1100, "Fruitfly" <lamvan@optusnet.com.au>
wrote:

>Hi Everyone,
>I've been a lurker here for the last 3 months, ever since I got my XJ. Every
>time I've had a question, the answer's been here before I even got to ask
>it. You guys and gals are a wealth of info, so I thought I'd ask for some
>advice.
>I need (read want) new tyres on my XJ to replace a near new set of wrangler
>gsa's. These are ok on the highway, but as soon as you show them a bit of
>mud they turn to slicks.My XJ's a '95 Classic, and is completely stock.
>Unfortunately, being a '95 Classic it doesn't have a trac-lok diff, so tyres
>become a bit more important.
>I've narrowed the choice down to 3, all 235/75R15.
>1- Cooper STT
>2-Goodyear Wrangler MTR
>3-Kumho Venturer 834
>Most of the tracks we travel are rocks and mud,but the conditions can change
>every 5 minutes.
>I've been told I can fit 30x9.5's, but these are nearly 2" bigger then
>stock. In the police state I live in, they use radar cameras to book you for
>speeding, so I don't want to have the speedo out too much.
>Any advice or experiences with these tyres would be appreciated.
>Thanks in advance,
>Happy New Year.
>Larry in Melbourne Australia.
>




-- msosborn at msosborn dot com

Matt Osborn 01-01-2006 12:12 PM

Re: Tyre advice needed
 
I just replaced my Goodyear Wrangler GSA tires with Firestone
Destination AT tires. The noise level is about the same (maybe little
higher on some surfaces) but the traction is much better.

It's snow and ice here in Minnesota, so I don't know how they are in
the mud.

On Sun, 1 Jan 2006 22:06:47 +1100, "Fruitfly" <lamvan@optusnet.com.au>
wrote:

>Hi Everyone,
>I've been a lurker here for the last 3 months, ever since I got my XJ. Every
>time I've had a question, the answer's been here before I even got to ask
>it. You guys and gals are a wealth of info, so I thought I'd ask for some
>advice.
>I need (read want) new tyres on my XJ to replace a near new set of wrangler
>gsa's. These are ok on the highway, but as soon as you show them a bit of
>mud they turn to slicks.My XJ's a '95 Classic, and is completely stock.
>Unfortunately, being a '95 Classic it doesn't have a trac-lok diff, so tyres
>become a bit more important.
>I've narrowed the choice down to 3, all 235/75R15.
>1- Cooper STT
>2-Goodyear Wrangler MTR
>3-Kumho Venturer 834
>Most of the tracks we travel are rocks and mud,but the conditions can change
>every 5 minutes.
>I've been told I can fit 30x9.5's, but these are nearly 2" bigger then
>stock. In the police state I live in, they use radar cameras to book you for
>speeding, so I don't want to have the speedo out too much.
>Any advice or experiences with these tyres would be appreciated.
>Thanks in advance,
>Happy New Year.
>Larry in Melbourne Australia.
>




-- msosborn at msosborn dot com

Rusted 01-01-2006 12:15 PM

Re: Tyre advice needed
 
Welcome Larry, Melborne is a nice place, what part are you from? I am in
the US now, but lived in the Melbourne area for a few years. I bet your
XJ looks good next to all of those Toyotas!

From my notes on BFG tires the 235/75R15 tire should stand about 29" tall,
and the 30x9.5's stand 29.5" tall. So there is only a half inch overall
difference (1/4 inch over all vehicle height, or 1/4" closer to the fenders
depending how you want to look at it). So I don't think it would ever
matter either way.

As far as effecting your speedometer readings, again I don't think they are
different enough for you to even notice. If you want to double check (I
remember seeing some expensive VIC tickets) have a buddy with a GPS ride
along with you so you can get a true measurement of your speed. So you
know what the police will really be seeing as well.

From your 3 options I would pick the Goodyear tires, but I would also
concider BFG All-Terrains or for more offroad use the Mud-Terrains.



"Fruitfly" <lamvan@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:43b7b7c4$0$17702$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
> Hi Everyone,
> I've been a lurker here for the last 3 months, ever since I got my XJ.
> Every time I've had a question, the answer's been here before I even got
> to ask it. You guys and gals are a wealth of info, so I thought I'd ask
> for some advice.
> I need (read want) new tyres on my XJ to replace a near new set of
> wrangler gsa's. These are ok on the highway, but as soon as you show them
> a bit of mud they turn to slicks.My XJ's a '95 Classic, and is completely
> stock. Unfortunately, being a '95 Classic it doesn't have a trac-lok diff,
> so tyres become a bit more important.
> I've narrowed the choice down to 3, all 235/75R15.
> 1- Cooper STT
> 2-Goodyear Wrangler MTR
> 3-Kumho Venturer 834
> Most of the tracks we travel are rocks and mud,but the conditions can
> change every 5 minutes.
> I've been told I can fit 30x9.5's, but these are nearly 2" bigger then
> stock. In the police state I live in, they use radar cameras to book you
> for speeding, so I don't want to have the speedo out too much.
> Any advice or experiences with these tyres would be appreciated.
> Thanks in advance,
> Happy New Year.
> Larry in Melbourne Australia.
>





Rusted 01-01-2006 12:15 PM

Re: Tyre advice needed
 
Welcome Larry, Melborne is a nice place, what part are you from? I am in
the US now, but lived in the Melbourne area for a few years. I bet your
XJ looks good next to all of those Toyotas!

From my notes on BFG tires the 235/75R15 tire should stand about 29" tall,
and the 30x9.5's stand 29.5" tall. So there is only a half inch overall
difference (1/4 inch over all vehicle height, or 1/4" closer to the fenders
depending how you want to look at it). So I don't think it would ever
matter either way.

As far as effecting your speedometer readings, again I don't think they are
different enough for you to even notice. If you want to double check (I
remember seeing some expensive VIC tickets) have a buddy with a GPS ride
along with you so you can get a true measurement of your speed. So you
know what the police will really be seeing as well.

From your 3 options I would pick the Goodyear tires, but I would also
concider BFG All-Terrains or for more offroad use the Mud-Terrains.



"Fruitfly" <lamvan@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:43b7b7c4$0$17702$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
> Hi Everyone,
> I've been a lurker here for the last 3 months, ever since I got my XJ.
> Every time I've had a question, the answer's been here before I even got
> to ask it. You guys and gals are a wealth of info, so I thought I'd ask
> for some advice.
> I need (read want) new tyres on my XJ to replace a near new set of
> wrangler gsa's. These are ok on the highway, but as soon as you show them
> a bit of mud they turn to slicks.My XJ's a '95 Classic, and is completely
> stock. Unfortunately, being a '95 Classic it doesn't have a trac-lok diff,
> so tyres become a bit more important.
> I've narrowed the choice down to 3, all 235/75R15.
> 1- Cooper STT
> 2-Goodyear Wrangler MTR
> 3-Kumho Venturer 834
> Most of the tracks we travel are rocks and mud,but the conditions can
> change every 5 minutes.
> I've been told I can fit 30x9.5's, but these are nearly 2" bigger then
> stock. In the police state I live in, they use radar cameras to book you
> for speeding, so I don't want to have the speedo out too much.
> Any advice or experiences with these tyres would be appreciated.
> Thanks in advance,
> Happy New Year.
> Larry in Melbourne Australia.
>





Rusted 01-01-2006 12:15 PM

Re: Tyre advice needed
 
Welcome Larry, Melborne is a nice place, what part are you from? I am in
the US now, but lived in the Melbourne area for a few years. I bet your
XJ looks good next to all of those Toyotas!

From my notes on BFG tires the 235/75R15 tire should stand about 29" tall,
and the 30x9.5's stand 29.5" tall. So there is only a half inch overall
difference (1/4 inch over all vehicle height, or 1/4" closer to the fenders
depending how you want to look at it). So I don't think it would ever
matter either way.

As far as effecting your speedometer readings, again I don't think they are
different enough for you to even notice. If you want to double check (I
remember seeing some expensive VIC tickets) have a buddy with a GPS ride
along with you so you can get a true measurement of your speed. So you
know what the police will really be seeing as well.

From your 3 options I would pick the Goodyear tires, but I would also
concider BFG All-Terrains or for more offroad use the Mud-Terrains.



"Fruitfly" <lamvan@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:43b7b7c4$0$17702$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
> Hi Everyone,
> I've been a lurker here for the last 3 months, ever since I got my XJ.
> Every time I've had a question, the answer's been here before I even got
> to ask it. You guys and gals are a wealth of info, so I thought I'd ask
> for some advice.
> I need (read want) new tyres on my XJ to replace a near new set of
> wrangler gsa's. These are ok on the highway, but as soon as you show them
> a bit of mud they turn to slicks.My XJ's a '95 Classic, and is completely
> stock. Unfortunately, being a '95 Classic it doesn't have a trac-lok diff,
> so tyres become a bit more important.
> I've narrowed the choice down to 3, all 235/75R15.
> 1- Cooper STT
> 2-Goodyear Wrangler MTR
> 3-Kumho Venturer 834
> Most of the tracks we travel are rocks and mud,but the conditions can
> change every 5 minutes.
> I've been told I can fit 30x9.5's, but these are nearly 2" bigger then
> stock. In the police state I live in, they use radar cameras to book you
> for speeding, so I don't want to have the speedo out too much.
> Any advice or experiences with these tyres would be appreciated.
> Thanks in advance,
> Happy New Year.
> Larry in Melbourne Australia.
>





Carl 01-01-2006 05:41 PM

Re: Tyre advice needed
 
Wrangler MT/R is your best bet. I had a set of 30x9.5's on a stock 89
Cherokee. I was very pleased with thier performance and durability. I was
unable to destroy them. They will rub on the lower driver's side control arm
a tiny bit on full left turn, but it is not a big deal.. it's just all that
side tread. :-D

Carl


"Fruitfly" <lamvan@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:43b7b7c4$0$17702$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
> Hi Everyone,
> I've been a lurker here for the last 3 months, ever since I got my XJ.
> Every time I've had a question, the answer's been here before I even got
> to ask it. You guys and gals are a wealth of info, so I thought I'd ask
> for some advice.
> I need (read want) new tyres on my XJ to replace a near new set of
> wrangler gsa's. These are ok on the highway, but as soon as you show them
> a bit of mud they turn to slicks.My XJ's a '95 Classic, and is completely
> stock. Unfortunately, being a '95 Classic it doesn't have a trac-lok diff,
> so tyres become a bit more important.
> I've narrowed the choice down to 3, all 235/75R15.
> 1- Cooper STT
> 2-Goodyear Wrangler MTR
> 3-Kumho Venturer 834
> Most of the tracks we travel are rocks and mud,but the conditions can
> change every 5 minutes.
> I've been told I can fit 30x9.5's, but these are nearly 2" bigger then
> stock. In the police state I live in, they use radar cameras to book you
> for speeding, so I don't want to have the speedo out too much.
> Any advice or experiences with these tyres would be appreciated.
> Thanks in advance,
> Happy New Year.
> Larry in Melbourne Australia.
>




Carl 01-01-2006 05:41 PM

Re: Tyre advice needed
 
Wrangler MT/R is your best bet. I had a set of 30x9.5's on a stock 89
Cherokee. I was very pleased with thier performance and durability. I was
unable to destroy them. They will rub on the lower driver's side control arm
a tiny bit on full left turn, but it is not a big deal.. it's just all that
side tread. :-D

Carl


"Fruitfly" <lamvan@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:43b7b7c4$0$17702$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
> Hi Everyone,
> I've been a lurker here for the last 3 months, ever since I got my XJ.
> Every time I've had a question, the answer's been here before I even got
> to ask it. You guys and gals are a wealth of info, so I thought I'd ask
> for some advice.
> I need (read want) new tyres on my XJ to replace a near new set of
> wrangler gsa's. These are ok on the highway, but as soon as you show them
> a bit of mud they turn to slicks.My XJ's a '95 Classic, and is completely
> stock. Unfortunately, being a '95 Classic it doesn't have a trac-lok diff,
> so tyres become a bit more important.
> I've narrowed the choice down to 3, all 235/75R15.
> 1- Cooper STT
> 2-Goodyear Wrangler MTR
> 3-Kumho Venturer 834
> Most of the tracks we travel are rocks and mud,but the conditions can
> change every 5 minutes.
> I've been told I can fit 30x9.5's, but these are nearly 2" bigger then
> stock. In the police state I live in, they use radar cameras to book you
> for speeding, so I don't want to have the speedo out too much.
> Any advice or experiences with these tyres would be appreciated.
> Thanks in advance,
> Happy New Year.
> Larry in Melbourne Australia.
>




Carl 01-01-2006 05:41 PM

Re: Tyre advice needed
 
Wrangler MT/R is your best bet. I had a set of 30x9.5's on a stock 89
Cherokee. I was very pleased with thier performance and durability. I was
unable to destroy them. They will rub on the lower driver's side control arm
a tiny bit on full left turn, but it is not a big deal.. it's just all that
side tread. :-D

Carl


"Fruitfly" <lamvan@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:43b7b7c4$0$17702$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
> Hi Everyone,
> I've been a lurker here for the last 3 months, ever since I got my XJ.
> Every time I've had a question, the answer's been here before I even got
> to ask it. You guys and gals are a wealth of info, so I thought I'd ask
> for some advice.
> I need (read want) new tyres on my XJ to replace a near new set of
> wrangler gsa's. These are ok on the highway, but as soon as you show them
> a bit of mud they turn to slicks.My XJ's a '95 Classic, and is completely
> stock. Unfortunately, being a '95 Classic it doesn't have a trac-lok diff,
> so tyres become a bit more important.
> I've narrowed the choice down to 3, all 235/75R15.
> 1- Cooper STT
> 2-Goodyear Wrangler MTR
> 3-Kumho Venturer 834
> Most of the tracks we travel are rocks and mud,but the conditions can
> change every 5 minutes.
> I've been told I can fit 30x9.5's, but these are nearly 2" bigger then
> stock. In the police state I live in, they use radar cameras to book you
> for speeding, so I don't want to have the speedo out too much.
> Any advice or experiences with these tyres would be appreciated.
> Thanks in advance,
> Happy New Year.
> Larry in Melbourne Australia.
>





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