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OldARMYJEEP@gmail.com 04-02-2007 03:07 PM

Turn signals inop, Front turns flash when I hit Brakes.
 
I have a 76 Jeep CJ7, Recently my turn signals stopped working, so I
thought it was the flasher/relay. I replaced it. Still no turn
signals. In addition, when I apply the brakes, the front turn signals/
parking lights illuminate with the brakes, so it looks like my brake
lights go to the front and the rear. Any Suggestions? Thanks


Mike Romain 04-02-2007 03:49 PM

Re: Turn signals inop, Front turns flash when I hit Brakes.
 
OldARMYJEEP@gmail.com wrote:
> I have a 76 Jeep CJ7, Recently my turn signals stopped working, so I
> thought it was the flasher/relay. I replaced it. Still no turn
> signals. In addition, when I apply the brakes, the front turn signals/
> parking lights illuminate with the brakes, so it looks like my brake
> lights go to the front and the rear. Any Suggestions? Thanks
>


Most likely the bolts that hold the rear fixtures in place have gotten
rusty. The brakes and signals ground through the fixture and the
running lights ground through the harness. The brakes will steal
grounds through the running lights and turn them on when theirs fails.

This happens lots when folks put brush guards on the lights because it
moves the bolts to rusty spots.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain 04-02-2007 03:49 PM

Re: Turn signals inop, Front turns flash when I hit Brakes.
 
OldARMYJEEP@gmail.com wrote:
> I have a 76 Jeep CJ7, Recently my turn signals stopped working, so I
> thought it was the flasher/relay. I replaced it. Still no turn
> signals. In addition, when I apply the brakes, the front turn signals/
> parking lights illuminate with the brakes, so it looks like my brake
> lights go to the front and the rear. Any Suggestions? Thanks
>


Most likely the bolts that hold the rear fixtures in place have gotten
rusty. The brakes and signals ground through the fixture and the
running lights ground through the harness. The brakes will steal
grounds through the running lights and turn them on when theirs fails.

This happens lots when folks put brush guards on the lights because it
moves the bolts to rusty spots.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain 04-02-2007 03:49 PM

Re: Turn signals inop, Front turns flash when I hit Brakes.
 
OldARMYJEEP@gmail.com wrote:
> I have a 76 Jeep CJ7, Recently my turn signals stopped working, so I
> thought it was the flasher/relay. I replaced it. Still no turn
> signals. In addition, when I apply the brakes, the front turn signals/
> parking lights illuminate with the brakes, so it looks like my brake
> lights go to the front and the rear. Any Suggestions? Thanks
>


Most likely the bolts that hold the rear fixtures in place have gotten
rusty. The brakes and signals ground through the fixture and the
running lights ground through the harness. The brakes will steal
grounds through the running lights and turn them on when theirs fails.

This happens lots when folks put brush guards on the lights because it
moves the bolts to rusty spots.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 04-02-2007 04:24 PM

Re: Turn signals inop, Front turns flash when I hit Brakes.
 
Got to be a melt down inside your turn signal switch, probably caused by
a short usually in the wiring to the a trailer connections. Access will be
similar to a GM: http://www.fieros.de/en/articles/steering.html and:
http://www.chevyasylum.com/column/tiltcol.html
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


<OldARMYJEEP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1175540855.218560.110660@p15g2000hsd.googlegr oups.com...
> I have a 76 Jeep CJ7, Recently my turn signals stopped working, so I
> thought it was the flasher/relay. I replaced it. Still no turn
> signals. In addition, when I apply the brakes, the front turn signals/
> parking lights illuminate with the brakes, so it looks like my brake
> lights go to the front and the rear. Any Suggestions? Thanks
>




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 04-02-2007 04:24 PM

Re: Turn signals inop, Front turns flash when I hit Brakes.
 
Got to be a melt down inside your turn signal switch, probably caused by
a short usually in the wiring to the a trailer connections. Access will be
similar to a GM: http://www.fieros.de/en/articles/steering.html and:
http://www.chevyasylum.com/column/tiltcol.html
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


<OldARMYJEEP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1175540855.218560.110660@p15g2000hsd.googlegr oups.com...
> I have a 76 Jeep CJ7, Recently my turn signals stopped working, so I
> thought it was the flasher/relay. I replaced it. Still no turn
> signals. In addition, when I apply the brakes, the front turn signals/
> parking lights illuminate with the brakes, so it looks like my brake
> lights go to the front and the rear. Any Suggestions? Thanks
>




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 04-02-2007 04:24 PM

Re: Turn signals inop, Front turns flash when I hit Brakes.
 
Got to be a melt down inside your turn signal switch, probably caused by
a short usually in the wiring to the a trailer connections. Access will be
similar to a GM: http://www.fieros.de/en/articles/steering.html and:
http://www.chevyasylum.com/column/tiltcol.html
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


<OldARMYJEEP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1175540855.218560.110660@p15g2000hsd.googlegr oups.com...
> I have a 76 Jeep CJ7, Recently my turn signals stopped working, so I
> thought it was the flasher/relay. I replaced it. Still no turn
> signals. In addition, when I apply the brakes, the front turn signals/
> parking lights illuminate with the brakes, so it looks like my brake
> lights go to the front and the rear. Any Suggestions? Thanks
>




--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com


djdave 04-03-2007 09:32 AM

Re: Turn signals inop, Front turns flash when I hit Brakes.
 
If the other 2 deas dont pan out..

Could it be lighting up your parking/running lights? if so, you may
have a rear brakelight bulb in wrong. or the wrong type bulb in the
taillight,. A 1156 where a 1157 is needed will do this.

On 2 Apr 2007 12:07:35 -0700, OldARMYJEEP@gmail.com wrote:

>I have a 76 Jeep CJ7, Recently my turn signals stopped working, so I
>thought it was the flasher/relay. I replaced it. Still no turn
>signals. In addition, when I apply the brakes, the front turn signals/
>parking lights illuminate with the brakes, so it looks like my brake
>lights go to the front and the rear. Any Suggestions? Thanks



djdave 04-03-2007 09:32 AM

Re: Turn signals inop, Front turns flash when I hit Brakes.
 
If the other 2 deas dont pan out..

Could it be lighting up your parking/running lights? if so, you may
have a rear brakelight bulb in wrong. or the wrong type bulb in the
taillight,. A 1156 where a 1157 is needed will do this.

On 2 Apr 2007 12:07:35 -0700, OldARMYJEEP@gmail.com wrote:

>I have a 76 Jeep CJ7, Recently my turn signals stopped working, so I
>thought it was the flasher/relay. I replaced it. Still no turn
>signals. In addition, when I apply the brakes, the front turn signals/
>parking lights illuminate with the brakes, so it looks like my brake
>lights go to the front and the rear. Any Suggestions? Thanks



djdave 04-03-2007 09:32 AM

Re: Turn signals inop, Front turns flash when I hit Brakes.
 
If the other 2 deas dont pan out..

Could it be lighting up your parking/running lights? if so, you may
have a rear brakelight bulb in wrong. or the wrong type bulb in the
taillight,. A 1156 where a 1157 is needed will do this.

On 2 Apr 2007 12:07:35 -0700, OldARMYJEEP@gmail.com wrote:

>I have a 76 Jeep CJ7, Recently my turn signals stopped working, so I
>thought it was the flasher/relay. I replaced it. Still no turn
>signals. In addition, when I apply the brakes, the front turn signals/
>parking lights illuminate with the brakes, so it looks like my brake
>lights go to the front and the rear. Any Suggestions? Thanks




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