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Patrick Mills 01-18-2004 10:51 AM

Trucks! show on Spike - Jeep buildup
 
Did anyone else see the Trucks! episode on Spike TV yesterday? It was the
first installment of a jeep buildup, where the host has taken a new jeep
(Wrangler X) purchased for a very young man by his dad, and agreed to
build it into a "Tombraider"-like vehicle that "looks and performs
every bit as good" as the jeep in the movie.

I was astounded that they used an X as their starting point (even though
I personally own a new X) for such a goal, but was even more
astounded that the host chose to install a 4" lift (Skyjacker) and 35"
tires as the first mod. No change to driveline angles, axles, gears or
transfer case appear to be in store, although there are still two
episodes remaining for the buildup, so I could be wrong here.

Am I wrong in thinking that if the next two episodes don't address these
issues, the claim the host has made is absurd? And worse, it seems to me
that they've significantly worsened the handling, acceleration, fuel
economy and safety of a vehicle intended for daily driving use by a young
male student with no off-road driving experience (that information was
taken from the start of the show, where we met the owner and son, and got
to know a little bit about them).

Hmmmm...

PLM

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Paul Calman 01-18-2004 01:47 PM

Re: Trucks! show on Spike - Jeep buildup
 
Wonderful show. "Today we are going to install $30,000 worth of junk from
our friends at BrandX". "We don't know what it really does to the vehicle,
nor do we cover the more crucial points of installation, but hey, it's
shiny!"
"On our next show, we install a farty muffler, blue LEDs on the hood, and
$400 worth of non-DOT approved funny tail lights, and hope you don't sue us
after rear ending it in the fog"
--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California



Paul Calman 01-18-2004 01:47 PM

Re: Trucks! show on Spike - Jeep buildup
 
Wonderful show. "Today we are going to install $30,000 worth of junk from
our friends at BrandX". "We don't know what it really does to the vehicle,
nor do we cover the more crucial points of installation, but hey, it's
shiny!"
"On our next show, we install a farty muffler, blue LEDs on the hood, and
$400 worth of non-DOT approved funny tail lights, and hope you don't sue us
after rear ending it in the fog"
--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California



Paul Calman 01-18-2004 01:47 PM

Re: Trucks! show on Spike - Jeep buildup
 
Wonderful show. "Today we are going to install $30,000 worth of junk from
our friends at BrandX". "We don't know what it really does to the vehicle,
nor do we cover the more crucial points of installation, but hey, it's
shiny!"
"On our next show, we install a farty muffler, blue LEDs on the hood, and
$400 worth of non-DOT approved funny tail lights, and hope you don't sue us
after rear ending it in the fog"
--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California



Simon Juncal 01-18-2004 09:22 PM

Re: Trucks! show on Spike - Jeep buildup
 
Paul Calman wrote:
> Wonderful show. "Today we are going to install $30,000 worth of junk from
> our friends at BrandX". "We don't know what it really does to the vehicle,
> nor do we cover the more crucial points of installation, but hey, it's
> shiny!"
> "On our next show, we install a farty muffler, blue LEDs on the hood, and
> $400 worth of non-DOT approved funny tail lights, and hope you don't sue us
> after rear ending it in the fog"


All those shows are just schills for products. Basically slicker
Infomercials. One of those shows once claimed to dyno a Harley Edition
pickup, and then used one of those "chip tuner" code scanners you can
buy at autozone for 60 bucks to get a peak horse power and torque gain
of OVER 100 HP and torque, with no other mods. Absurd...

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein


Simon Juncal 01-18-2004 09:22 PM

Re: Trucks! show on Spike - Jeep buildup
 
Paul Calman wrote:
> Wonderful show. "Today we are going to install $30,000 worth of junk from
> our friends at BrandX". "We don't know what it really does to the vehicle,
> nor do we cover the more crucial points of installation, but hey, it's
> shiny!"
> "On our next show, we install a farty muffler, blue LEDs on the hood, and
> $400 worth of non-DOT approved funny tail lights, and hope you don't sue us
> after rear ending it in the fog"


All those shows are just schills for products. Basically slicker
Infomercials. One of those shows once claimed to dyno a Harley Edition
pickup, and then used one of those "chip tuner" code scanners you can
buy at autozone for 60 bucks to get a peak horse power and torque gain
of OVER 100 HP and torque, with no other mods. Absurd...

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein


Simon Juncal 01-18-2004 09:22 PM

Re: Trucks! show on Spike - Jeep buildup
 
Paul Calman wrote:
> Wonderful show. "Today we are going to install $30,000 worth of junk from
> our friends at BrandX". "We don't know what it really does to the vehicle,
> nor do we cover the more crucial points of installation, but hey, it's
> shiny!"
> "On our next show, we install a farty muffler, blue LEDs on the hood, and
> $400 worth of non-DOT approved funny tail lights, and hope you don't sue us
> after rear ending it in the fog"


All those shows are just schills for products. Basically slicker
Infomercials. One of those shows once claimed to dyno a Harley Edition
pickup, and then used one of those "chip tuner" code scanners you can
buy at autozone for 60 bucks to get a peak horse power and torque gain
of OVER 100 HP and torque, with no other mods. Absurd...

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein


Bulletsnbrains 01-19-2004 12:22 AM

Re: Trucks! show on Spike - Jeep buildup
 
Hi Pat,

After watching a 2nd time... They actually installed 33". Stacey bloopered
35" near the end of the episode. I too thought the driveline angles and for
that matter the D35 axle in the rear won't hold up to much stress if he
digs into lockers and such. Stacey did mention the need for re-gear if they
ever went to 35's, but the X came with 3.07's?!? or 3.55 ratio R&P right?
Even 33's are a bit much for those ratios. From the sound of it, most of the
rest of the build up will be window dressing. T.R. Roll cage, front and rear
bumpers, winch and lights and such.


Brian



"Patrick Mills" <plm1954_R_E_M_O_V_E@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.01.18.15.51.20.323798@ix.netcom.com. ..
> Did anyone else see the Trucks! episode on Spike TV yesterday? It was the
> first installment of a jeep buildup, where the host has taken a new jeep
> (Wrangler X) purchased for a very young man by his dad, and agreed to
> build it into a "Tombraider"-like vehicle that "looks and performs
> every bit as good" as the jeep in the movie.
>
> I was astounded that they used an X as their starting point (even though
> I personally own a new X) for such a goal, but was even more
> astounded that the host chose to install a 4" lift (Skyjacker) and 35"
> tires as the first mod. No change to driveline angles, axles, gears or
> transfer case appear to be in store, although there are still two
> episodes remaining for the buildup, so I could be wrong here.
>
> Am I wrong in thinking that if the next two episodes don't address these
> issues, the claim the host has made is absurd? And worse, it seems to me
> that they've significantly worsened the handling, acceleration, fuel
> economy and safety of a vehicle intended for daily driving use by a young
> male student with no off-road driving experience (that information was
> taken from the start of the show, where we met the owner and son, and got
> to know a little bit about them).
>
> Hmmmm...
>
> PLM
>
> --
> [ ]
> __OIIIIO__
> |||=oo=|||
> ||| |||




Bulletsnbrains 01-19-2004 12:22 AM

Re: Trucks! show on Spike - Jeep buildup
 
Hi Pat,

After watching a 2nd time... They actually installed 33". Stacey bloopered
35" near the end of the episode. I too thought the driveline angles and for
that matter the D35 axle in the rear won't hold up to much stress if he
digs into lockers and such. Stacey did mention the need for re-gear if they
ever went to 35's, but the X came with 3.07's?!? or 3.55 ratio R&P right?
Even 33's are a bit much for those ratios. From the sound of it, most of the
rest of the build up will be window dressing. T.R. Roll cage, front and rear
bumpers, winch and lights and such.


Brian



"Patrick Mills" <plm1954_R_E_M_O_V_E@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.01.18.15.51.20.323798@ix.netcom.com. ..
> Did anyone else see the Trucks! episode on Spike TV yesterday? It was the
> first installment of a jeep buildup, where the host has taken a new jeep
> (Wrangler X) purchased for a very young man by his dad, and agreed to
> build it into a "Tombraider"-like vehicle that "looks and performs
> every bit as good" as the jeep in the movie.
>
> I was astounded that they used an X as their starting point (even though
> I personally own a new X) for such a goal, but was even more
> astounded that the host chose to install a 4" lift (Skyjacker) and 35"
> tires as the first mod. No change to driveline angles, axles, gears or
> transfer case appear to be in store, although there are still two
> episodes remaining for the buildup, so I could be wrong here.
>
> Am I wrong in thinking that if the next two episodes don't address these
> issues, the claim the host has made is absurd? And worse, it seems to me
> that they've significantly worsened the handling, acceleration, fuel
> economy and safety of a vehicle intended for daily driving use by a young
> male student with no off-road driving experience (that information was
> taken from the start of the show, where we met the owner and son, and got
> to know a little bit about them).
>
> Hmmmm...
>
> PLM
>
> --
> [ ]
> __OIIIIO__
> |||=oo=|||
> ||| |||




Bulletsnbrains 01-19-2004 12:22 AM

Re: Trucks! show on Spike - Jeep buildup
 
Hi Pat,

After watching a 2nd time... They actually installed 33". Stacey bloopered
35" near the end of the episode. I too thought the driveline angles and for
that matter the D35 axle in the rear won't hold up to much stress if he
digs into lockers and such. Stacey did mention the need for re-gear if they
ever went to 35's, but the X came with 3.07's?!? or 3.55 ratio R&P right?
Even 33's are a bit much for those ratios. From the sound of it, most of the
rest of the build up will be window dressing. T.R. Roll cage, front and rear
bumpers, winch and lights and such.


Brian



"Patrick Mills" <plm1954_R_E_M_O_V_E@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.01.18.15.51.20.323798@ix.netcom.com. ..
> Did anyone else see the Trucks! episode on Spike TV yesterday? It was the
> first installment of a jeep buildup, where the host has taken a new jeep
> (Wrangler X) purchased for a very young man by his dad, and agreed to
> build it into a "Tombraider"-like vehicle that "looks and performs
> every bit as good" as the jeep in the movie.
>
> I was astounded that they used an X as their starting point (even though
> I personally own a new X) for such a goal, but was even more
> astounded that the host chose to install a 4" lift (Skyjacker) and 35"
> tires as the first mod. No change to driveline angles, axles, gears or
> transfer case appear to be in store, although there are still two
> episodes remaining for the buildup, so I could be wrong here.
>
> Am I wrong in thinking that if the next two episodes don't address these
> issues, the claim the host has made is absurd? And worse, it seems to me
> that they've significantly worsened the handling, acceleration, fuel
> economy and safety of a vehicle intended for daily driving use by a young
> male student with no off-road driving experience (that information was
> taken from the start of the show, where we met the owner and son, and got
> to know a little bit about them).
>
> Hmmmm...
>
> PLM
>
> --
> [ ]
> __OIIIIO__
> |||=oo=|||
> ||| |||




Patrick Mills 01-19-2004 07:06 AM

Re: Trucks! show on Spike - Jeep buildup
 
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 05:22:20 +0000, Bulletsnbrains wrote:

> Hi Pat,
>
> After watching a 2nd time... They actually installed 33". Stacey
> bloopered 35" near the end of the episode. I too thought the driveline
> angles and for that matter the D35 axle in the rear won't hold up to
> much stress if he digs into lockers and such. Stacey did mention the
> need for re-gear if they ever went to 35's, but the X came with
> 3.07's?!? or 3.55 ratio R&P right? Even 33's are a bit much for those
> ratios. From the sound of it, most of the rest of the build up will be
> window dressing. T.R. Roll cage, front and rear bumpers, winch and
> lights and such.
>
>
> Brian


Oh well - better 33's than 35's, I guess. The stock 3.07 ratio on the X
is not up to either size, to say nothing of the axles and the driveline
angle. Even the optional 3.73 gears (which I have, and suffer with poor
fuel mileage due to my 31" tires) are not that great with the 33" choice.

There is an interesting discussion on JU about this buildup, where one
participant is advancing an argument that the weld-on long-arm bracket has
actually compromised the service-life of the vehicle's frame (due to the
welding locations on the frame, apparently). Also complaints about using
a kit requiring changes which make a return to stock much more difficult
affecting the vehicle's resale value.

All in all, a disappointing show. I feel sorry for the poor dad and kid,
who appear to have genuinely trusted this character to install appropriate
modifications. In my opinion, they now have a compromised vehicle which,
at least for the intended driver, is a less capable, less reliable, less
economical and more dangerous one than they started with, for both on- and
off-road use. I hope the next episodes address some of these issues,
rather than just blingifying the thing.

PLM

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Patrick Mills 01-19-2004 07:06 AM

Re: Trucks! show on Spike - Jeep buildup
 
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 05:22:20 +0000, Bulletsnbrains wrote:

> Hi Pat,
>
> After watching a 2nd time... They actually installed 33". Stacey
> bloopered 35" near the end of the episode. I too thought the driveline
> angles and for that matter the D35 axle in the rear won't hold up to
> much stress if he digs into lockers and such. Stacey did mention the
> need for re-gear if they ever went to 35's, but the X came with
> 3.07's?!? or 3.55 ratio R&P right? Even 33's are a bit much for those
> ratios. From the sound of it, most of the rest of the build up will be
> window dressing. T.R. Roll cage, front and rear bumpers, winch and
> lights and such.
>
>
> Brian


Oh well - better 33's than 35's, I guess. The stock 3.07 ratio on the X
is not up to either size, to say nothing of the axles and the driveline
angle. Even the optional 3.73 gears (which I have, and suffer with poor
fuel mileage due to my 31" tires) are not that great with the 33" choice.

There is an interesting discussion on JU about this buildup, where one
participant is advancing an argument that the weld-on long-arm bracket has
actually compromised the service-life of the vehicle's frame (due to the
welding locations on the frame, apparently). Also complaints about using
a kit requiring changes which make a return to stock much more difficult
affecting the vehicle's resale value.

All in all, a disappointing show. I feel sorry for the poor dad and kid,
who appear to have genuinely trusted this character to install appropriate
modifications. In my opinion, they now have a compromised vehicle which,
at least for the intended driver, is a less capable, less reliable, less
economical and more dangerous one than they started with, for both on- and
off-road use. I hope the next episodes address some of these issues,
rather than just blingifying the thing.

PLM

--
[ ]
__OIIIIO__
|||=oo=|||
||| |||

Patrick Mills 01-19-2004 07:06 AM

Re: Trucks! show on Spike - Jeep buildup
 
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 05:22:20 +0000, Bulletsnbrains wrote:

> Hi Pat,
>
> After watching a 2nd time... They actually installed 33". Stacey
> bloopered 35" near the end of the episode. I too thought the driveline
> angles and for that matter the D35 axle in the rear won't hold up to
> much stress if he digs into lockers and such. Stacey did mention the
> need for re-gear if they ever went to 35's, but the X came with
> 3.07's?!? or 3.55 ratio R&P right? Even 33's are a bit much for those
> ratios. From the sound of it, most of the rest of the build up will be
> window dressing. T.R. Roll cage, front and rear bumpers, winch and
> lights and such.
>
>
> Brian


Oh well - better 33's than 35's, I guess. The stock 3.07 ratio on the X
is not up to either size, to say nothing of the axles and the driveline
angle. Even the optional 3.73 gears (which I have, and suffer with poor
fuel mileage due to my 31" tires) are not that great with the 33" choice.

There is an interesting discussion on JU about this buildup, where one
participant is advancing an argument that the weld-on long-arm bracket has
actually compromised the service-life of the vehicle's frame (due to the
welding locations on the frame, apparently). Also complaints about using
a kit requiring changes which make a return to stock much more difficult
affecting the vehicle's resale value.

All in all, a disappointing show. I feel sorry for the poor dad and kid,
who appear to have genuinely trusted this character to install appropriate
modifications. In my opinion, they now have a compromised vehicle which,
at least for the intended driver, is a less capable, less reliable, less
economical and more dangerous one than they started with, for both on- and
off-road use. I hope the next episodes address some of these issues,
rather than just blingifying the thing.

PLM

--
[ ]
__OIIIIO__
|||=oo=|||
||| |||

Jeremy Hupe 01-19-2004 06:10 PM

Re: Trucks! show on Spike - Jeep buildup
 

"Patrick Mills" <plm1954_R_E_M_O_V_E@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.01.19.12.06.55.731831@ix.netcom.com. ..
> On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 05:22:20 +0000, Bulletsnbrains wrote:
>
> > Hi Pat,
> >
> > After watching a 2nd time... They actually installed 33". Stacey
> > bloopered 35" near the end of the episode. I too thought the driveline
> > angles and for that matter the D35 axle in the rear won't hold up to
> > much stress if he digs into lockers and such. Stacey did mention the
> > need for re-gear if they ever went to 35's, but the X came with
> > 3.07's?!? or 3.55 ratio R&P right? Even 33's are a bit much for those
> > ratios. From the sound of it, most of the rest of the build up will be
> > window dressing. T.R. Roll cage, front and rear bumpers, winch and
> > lights and such.
> >
> >
> > Brian

>
> Oh well - better 33's than 35's, I guess. The stock 3.07 ratio on the X
> is not up to either size, to say nothing of the axles and the driveline
> angle. Even the optional 3.73 gears (which I have, and suffer with poor
> fuel mileage due to my 31" tires) are not that great with the 33" choice.


I am running 3.73s with my 30" and getting about 18mpg. that is quite good
compared to the 11mpg I was getting with my 3.07 stockers. What are you
considering poor gas milage??

> There is an interesting discussion on JU about this buildup, where one
> participant is advancing an argument that the weld-on long-arm bracket has
> actually compromised the service-life of the vehicle's frame (due to the
> welding locations on the frame, apparently). Also complaints about using
> a kit requiring changes which make a return to stock much more difficult
> affecting the vehicle's resale value.
>
> All in all, a disappointing show. I feel sorry for the poor dad and kid,
> who appear to have genuinely trusted this character to install appropriate
> modifications. In my opinion, they now have a compromised vehicle which,
> at least for the intended driver, is a less capable, less reliable, less
> economical and more dangerous one than they started with, for both on- and
> off-road use. I hope the next episodes address some of these issues,
> rather than just blingifying the thing.
>
> PLM
>
> --
> [ ]
> __OIIIIO__
> |||=oo=|||
> ||| |||


Too true. They could easily spend another grand regearing to get back
performance, not to mention a good SYE kit to reduce vibs. Of course then
he is going to try to use it off road and snap an axel so he will need HD
axels, (okay make that a couple of grand.)

Jeremy



Jeremy Hupe 01-19-2004 06:10 PM

Re: Trucks! show on Spike - Jeep buildup
 

"Patrick Mills" <plm1954_R_E_M_O_V_E@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.01.19.12.06.55.731831@ix.netcom.com. ..
> On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 05:22:20 +0000, Bulletsnbrains wrote:
>
> > Hi Pat,
> >
> > After watching a 2nd time... They actually installed 33". Stacey
> > bloopered 35" near the end of the episode. I too thought the driveline
> > angles and for that matter the D35 axle in the rear won't hold up to
> > much stress if he digs into lockers and such. Stacey did mention the
> > need for re-gear if they ever went to 35's, but the X came with
> > 3.07's?!? or 3.55 ratio R&P right? Even 33's are a bit much for those
> > ratios. From the sound of it, most of the rest of the build up will be
> > window dressing. T.R. Roll cage, front and rear bumpers, winch and
> > lights and such.
> >
> >
> > Brian

>
> Oh well - better 33's than 35's, I guess. The stock 3.07 ratio on the X
> is not up to either size, to say nothing of the axles and the driveline
> angle. Even the optional 3.73 gears (which I have, and suffer with poor
> fuel mileage due to my 31" tires) are not that great with the 33" choice.


I am running 3.73s with my 30" and getting about 18mpg. that is quite good
compared to the 11mpg I was getting with my 3.07 stockers. What are you
considering poor gas milage??

> There is an interesting discussion on JU about this buildup, where one
> participant is advancing an argument that the weld-on long-arm bracket has
> actually compromised the service-life of the vehicle's frame (due to the
> welding locations on the frame, apparently). Also complaints about using
> a kit requiring changes which make a return to stock much more difficult
> affecting the vehicle's resale value.
>
> All in all, a disappointing show. I feel sorry for the poor dad and kid,
> who appear to have genuinely trusted this character to install appropriate
> modifications. In my opinion, they now have a compromised vehicle which,
> at least for the intended driver, is a less capable, less reliable, less
> economical and more dangerous one than they started with, for both on- and
> off-road use. I hope the next episodes address some of these issues,
> rather than just blingifying the thing.
>
> PLM
>
> --
> [ ]
> __OIIIIO__
> |||=oo=|||
> ||| |||


Too true. They could easily spend another grand regearing to get back
performance, not to mention a good SYE kit to reduce vibs. Of course then
he is going to try to use it off road and snap an axel so he will need HD
axels, (okay make that a couple of grand.)

Jeremy



Jeremy Hupe 01-19-2004 06:10 PM

Re: Trucks! show on Spike - Jeep buildup
 

"Patrick Mills" <plm1954_R_E_M_O_V_E@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.01.19.12.06.55.731831@ix.netcom.com. ..
> On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 05:22:20 +0000, Bulletsnbrains wrote:
>
> > Hi Pat,
> >
> > After watching a 2nd time... They actually installed 33". Stacey
> > bloopered 35" near the end of the episode. I too thought the driveline
> > angles and for that matter the D35 axle in the rear won't hold up to
> > much stress if he digs into lockers and such. Stacey did mention the
> > need for re-gear if they ever went to 35's, but the X came with
> > 3.07's?!? or 3.55 ratio R&P right? Even 33's are a bit much for those
> > ratios. From the sound of it, most of the rest of the build up will be
> > window dressing. T.R. Roll cage, front and rear bumpers, winch and
> > lights and such.
> >
> >
> > Brian

>
> Oh well - better 33's than 35's, I guess. The stock 3.07 ratio on the X
> is not up to either size, to say nothing of the axles and the driveline
> angle. Even the optional 3.73 gears (which I have, and suffer with poor
> fuel mileage due to my 31" tires) are not that great with the 33" choice.


I am running 3.73s with my 30" and getting about 18mpg. that is quite good
compared to the 11mpg I was getting with my 3.07 stockers. What are you
considering poor gas milage??

> There is an interesting discussion on JU about this buildup, where one
> participant is advancing an argument that the weld-on long-arm bracket has
> actually compromised the service-life of the vehicle's frame (due to the
> welding locations on the frame, apparently). Also complaints about using
> a kit requiring changes which make a return to stock much more difficult
> affecting the vehicle's resale value.
>
> All in all, a disappointing show. I feel sorry for the poor dad and kid,
> who appear to have genuinely trusted this character to install appropriate
> modifications. In my opinion, they now have a compromised vehicle which,
> at least for the intended driver, is a less capable, less reliable, less
> economical and more dangerous one than they started with, for both on- and
> off-road use. I hope the next episodes address some of these issues,
> rather than just blingifying the thing.
>
> PLM
>
> --
> [ ]
> __OIIIIO__
> |||=oo=|||
> ||| |||


Too true. They could easily spend another grand regearing to get back
performance, not to mention a good SYE kit to reduce vibs. Of course then
he is going to try to use it off road and snap an axel so he will need HD
axels, (okay make that a couple of grand.)

Jeremy



Wranglerjeep1 01-19-2004 09:43 PM

Re: Trucks! show on Spike - Jeep buildup
 
I would have just bought a Rubi haha!

Brian
88 YJ

Wranglerjeep1 01-19-2004 09:43 PM

Re: Trucks! show on Spike - Jeep buildup
 
I would have just bought a Rubi haha!

Brian
88 YJ

Wranglerjeep1 01-19-2004 09:43 PM

Re: Trucks! show on Spike - Jeep buildup
 
I would have just bought a Rubi haha!

Brian
88 YJ

Matt Macchiarolo 01-20-2004 05:48 PM

Re: Trucks! show on Spike - Jeep buildup
 
In article <pan.2004.01.19.12.06.55.731831@ix.netcom.com>, Patrick Mills
<plm1954_R_E_M_O_V_E@ix.netcom.com> writes:

> blingifying


heh
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html





Matt Macchiarolo 01-20-2004 05:48 PM

Re: Trucks! show on Spike - Jeep buildup
 
In article <pan.2004.01.19.12.06.55.731831@ix.netcom.com>, Patrick Mills
<plm1954_R_E_M_O_V_E@ix.netcom.com> writes:

> blingifying


heh
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html





Matt Macchiarolo 01-20-2004 05:48 PM

Re: Trucks! show on Spike - Jeep buildup
 
In article <pan.2004.01.19.12.06.55.731831@ix.netcom.com>, Patrick Mills
<plm1954_R_E_M_O_V_E@ix.netcom.com> writes:

> blingifying


heh
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html





Chad Fraker 01-20-2004 09:58 PM

Re: Trucks! show on Spike - Jeep buildup
 

"Patrick Mills" <plm1954_R_E_M_O_V_E@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.01.19.12.06.55.731831@ix.netcom.com. ..
> On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 05:22:20 +0000, Bulletsnbrains wrote:
>
> > Hi Pat,
> >
> > After watching a 2nd time... They actually installed 33". Stacey
> > bloopered 35" near the end of the episode. I too thought the driveline
> > angles and for that matter the D35 axle in the rear won't hold up to
> > much stress if he digs into lockers and such. Stacey did mention the
> > need for re-gear if they ever went to 35's, but the X came with
> > 3.07's?!? or 3.55 ratio R&P right? Even 33's are a bit much for those
> > ratios. From the sound of it, most of the rest of the build up will be
> > window dressing. T.R. Roll cage, front and rear bumpers, winch and
> > lights and such.



they said that they were replacing the 30's. I would presume that they had
teh 30x9.5's wheel group. If that's the case, the TJ should have 3.73's.
That's how my TJ sport came (30x9.5 & 3.73)



Chad Fraker 01-20-2004 09:58 PM

Re: Trucks! show on Spike - Jeep buildup
 

"Patrick Mills" <plm1954_R_E_M_O_V_E@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.01.19.12.06.55.731831@ix.netcom.com. ..
> On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 05:22:20 +0000, Bulletsnbrains wrote:
>
> > Hi Pat,
> >
> > After watching a 2nd time... They actually installed 33". Stacey
> > bloopered 35" near the end of the episode. I too thought the driveline
> > angles and for that matter the D35 axle in the rear won't hold up to
> > much stress if he digs into lockers and such. Stacey did mention the
> > need for re-gear if they ever went to 35's, but the X came with
> > 3.07's?!? or 3.55 ratio R&P right? Even 33's are a bit much for those
> > ratios. From the sound of it, most of the rest of the build up will be
> > window dressing. T.R. Roll cage, front and rear bumpers, winch and
> > lights and such.



they said that they were replacing the 30's. I would presume that they had
teh 30x9.5's wheel group. If that's the case, the TJ should have 3.73's.
That's how my TJ sport came (30x9.5 & 3.73)



Chad Fraker 01-20-2004 09:58 PM

Re: Trucks! show on Spike - Jeep buildup
 

"Patrick Mills" <plm1954_R_E_M_O_V_E@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.01.19.12.06.55.731831@ix.netcom.com. ..
> On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 05:22:20 +0000, Bulletsnbrains wrote:
>
> > Hi Pat,
> >
> > After watching a 2nd time... They actually installed 33". Stacey
> > bloopered 35" near the end of the episode. I too thought the driveline
> > angles and for that matter the D35 axle in the rear won't hold up to
> > much stress if he digs into lockers and such. Stacey did mention the
> > need for re-gear if they ever went to 35's, but the X came with
> > 3.07's?!? or 3.55 ratio R&P right? Even 33's are a bit much for those
> > ratios. From the sound of it, most of the rest of the build up will be
> > window dressing. T.R. Roll cage, front and rear bumpers, winch and
> > lights and such.



they said that they were replacing the 30's. I would presume that they had
teh 30x9.5's wheel group. If that's the case, the TJ should have 3.73's.
That's how my TJ sport came (30x9.5 & 3.73)



Chad Fraker 01-20-2004 10:00 PM

Re: Trucks! show on Spike - Jeep buildup
 
Probably should have. And the father bought the TJ for the kid. I think
that Trucks is paying for all of the mods
"Wranglerjeep1" <wranglerjeep1@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040119214346.22711.00000159@mb-m19.aol.com...
> I would have just bought a Rubi haha!
>
> Brian
> 88 YJ




Chad Fraker 01-20-2004 10:00 PM

Re: Trucks! show on Spike - Jeep buildup
 
Probably should have. And the father bought the TJ for the kid. I think
that Trucks is paying for all of the mods
"Wranglerjeep1" <wranglerjeep1@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040119214346.22711.00000159@mb-m19.aol.com...
> I would have just bought a Rubi haha!
>
> Brian
> 88 YJ




Chad Fraker 01-20-2004 10:00 PM

Re: Trucks! show on Spike - Jeep buildup
 
Probably should have. And the father bought the TJ for the kid. I think
that Trucks is paying for all of the mods
"Wranglerjeep1" <wranglerjeep1@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040119214346.22711.00000159@mb-m19.aol.com...
> I would have just bought a Rubi haha!
>
> Brian
> 88 YJ





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