triangulating control arms
 

id like to triangulate my upper control arms so i can eliminate my track
bars. i have a picture of one control arm in the thread at
http://7slotgrille.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=757 please advise if you
know of a solution.

thanks,
--
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http://UtilityOffRoad.com

Re: triangulating control arms
 

Hi, Nathan. Interesting concept.

How would you adjust your pinion angle? I would think you would need
some way to adjust the triangulate front to rear. Also, I don't see how
this is as strong as a track bar is laterally. I could see it replacing
control arms on a coil suspension, but would it be strong enough to
eliminate the track bar as well? What lift is that pictured?

Nathan Collier wrote:

> id like to triangulate my upper control arms so i can eliminate my track
> bars. i have a picture of one control arm in the thread at
> http://7slotgrille.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=757 please advise if you
> know of a solution.
>
> thanks,

--
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-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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Re: triangulating control arms
 

Hi, Nathan. Interesting concept.

How would you adjust your pinion angle? I would think you would need
some way to adjust the triangulate front to rear. Also, I don't see how
this is as strong as a track bar is laterally. I could see it replacing
control arms on a coil suspension, but would it be strong enough to
eliminate the track bar as well? What lift is that pictured?

Nathan Collier wrote:

> id like to triangulate my upper control arms so i can eliminate my track
> bars. i have a picture of one control arm in the thread at
> http://7slotgrille.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=757 please advise if you
> know of a solution.
>
> thanks,

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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Re: triangulating control arms
 

Hi, Nathan. Interesting concept.

How would you adjust your pinion angle? I would think you would need
some way to adjust the triangulate front to rear. Also, I don't see how
this is as strong as a track bar is laterally. I could see it replacing
control arms on a coil suspension, but would it be strong enough to
eliminate the track bar as well? What lift is that pictured?

Nathan Collier wrote:

> id like to triangulate my upper control arms so i can eliminate my track
> bars. i have a picture of one control arm in the thread at
> http://7slotgrille.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=757 please advise if you
> know of a solution.
>
> thanks,

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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Re: triangulating control arms
 

"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:FYsvb.2165$ZJ7.116@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com ...
> How would you adjust your pinion angle?

by adusting either the length of the upper or lower control arms. if one
were built for a specific height, adjustment wouldnt be necessary so long as
you didnt plan on going over/under the height that the triangulated arms
were built for.


> I don't see how
> this is as strong as a track bar is laterally.

its what all the pro class rock crawlers are running so im satisfied its
more than enough.


> What lift is that pictured?

thats the full traction 6" long arm lift. ive seen one in person and it
appears to be engineered very well. its not a tj lift that you can use on
the rubicon, it takes the difference into account and is built specifically
for the rubicon so everything functions as its supposed to. they also have
a tj version.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com

Re: triangulating control arms
 

"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:FYsvb.2165$ZJ7.116@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com ...
> How would you adjust your pinion angle?

by adusting either the length of the upper or lower control arms. if one
were built for a specific height, adjustment wouldnt be necessary so long as
you didnt plan on going over/under the height that the triangulated arms
were built for.


> I don't see how
> this is as strong as a track bar is laterally.

its what all the pro class rock crawlers are running so im satisfied its
more than enough.


> What lift is that pictured?

thats the full traction 6" long arm lift. ive seen one in person and it
appears to be engineered very well. its not a tj lift that you can use on
the rubicon, it takes the difference into account and is built specifically
for the rubicon so everything functions as its supposed to. they also have
a tj version.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com

Re: triangulating control arms
 

"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:FYsvb.2165$ZJ7.116@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com ...
> How would you adjust your pinion angle?

by adusting either the length of the upper or lower control arms. if one
were built for a specific height, adjustment wouldnt be necessary so long as
you didnt plan on going over/under the height that the triangulated arms
were built for.


> I don't see how
> this is as strong as a track bar is laterally.

its what all the pro class rock crawlers are running so im satisfied its
more than enough.


> What lift is that pictured?

thats the full traction 6" long arm lift. ive seen one in person and it
appears to be engineered very well. its not a tj lift that you can use on
the rubicon, it takes the difference into account and is built specifically
for the rubicon so everything functions as its supposed to. they also have
a tj version.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com

Re: triangulating control arms
 

Nathan Collier wrote:
> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
>
>>How would you adjust your pinion angle?
>
> by adusting either the length of the upper or lower control arms. if one
> were built for a specific height, adjustment wouldnt be necessary so long as
> you didnt plan on going over/under the height that the triangulated arms
> were built for.

If you elim. the UCAs with the TRI arm, you can't adjust the UCAs. :)
Adjusting the LCAs would still be possible though, so I guess you could
still get the proper pinion angle. I would think you would still benefit
from some adjustment capability on the TRI arm.

>>I don't see how
>>this is as strong as a track bar is laterally.
>
>
> its what all the pro class rock crawlers are running so im satisfied its
> more than enough.

That would seem to stand to reason, yes. How about open highway? Are
there any such kits on SWB road vehicles?


>>What lift is that pictured?
>
>
> thats the full traction 6" long arm lift. ive seen one in person and it
> appears to be engineered very well. its not a tj lift that you can use on
> the rubicon, it takes the difference into account and is built specifically
> for the rubicon so everything functions as its supposed to. they also have
> a tj version.
>

If find this very intriguing, except for the fact that my new lift is
right now enroute via a trucking company.
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tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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Re: triangulating control arms
 

Nathan Collier wrote:
> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
>
>>How would you adjust your pinion angle?
>
> by adusting either the length of the upper or lower control arms. if one
> were built for a specific height, adjustment wouldnt be necessary so long as
> you didnt plan on going over/under the height that the triangulated arms
> were built for.

If you elim. the UCAs with the TRI arm, you can't adjust the UCAs. :)
Adjusting the LCAs would still be possible though, so I guess you could
still get the proper pinion angle. I would think you would still benefit
from some adjustment capability on the TRI arm.

>>I don't see how
>>this is as strong as a track bar is laterally.
>
>
> its what all the pro class rock crawlers are running so im satisfied its
> more than enough.

That would seem to stand to reason, yes. How about open highway? Are
there any such kits on SWB road vehicles?


>>What lift is that pictured?
>
>
> thats the full traction 6" long arm lift. ive seen one in person and it
> appears to be engineered very well. its not a tj lift that you can use on
> the rubicon, it takes the difference into account and is built specifically
> for the rubicon so everything functions as its supposed to. they also have
> a tj version.
>

If find this very intriguing, except for the fact that my new lift is
right now enroute via a trucking company.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
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Re: triangulating control arms
 

Nathan Collier wrote:
> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
>
>>How would you adjust your pinion angle?
>
> by adusting either the length of the upper or lower control arms. if one
> were built for a specific height, adjustment wouldnt be necessary so long as
> you didnt plan on going over/under the height that the triangulated arms
> were built for.

If you elim. the UCAs with the TRI arm, you can't adjust the UCAs. :)
Adjusting the LCAs would still be possible though, so I guess you could
still get the proper pinion angle. I would think you would still benefit
from some adjustment capability on the TRI arm.

>>I don't see how
>>this is as strong as a track bar is laterally.
>
>
> its what all the pro class rock crawlers are running so im satisfied its
> more than enough.

That would seem to stand to reason, yes. How about open highway? Are
there any such kits on SWB road vehicles?


>>What lift is that pictured?
>
>
> thats the full traction 6" long arm lift. ive seen one in person and it
> appears to be engineered very well. its not a tj lift that you can use on
> the rubicon, it takes the difference into account and is built specifically
> for the rubicon so everything functions as its supposed to. they also have
> a tj version.
>

If find this very intriguing, except for the fact that my new lift is
right now enroute via a trucking company.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
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