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pauley 05-12-2004 10:51 AM

Transmission troubles
 
Hello again my helpful friends. My 93 Sahara 5 speed (120K miles) is
really starting to have tranny problems. Here are it's symptoms:
shifting is smooth in and out of gears until the engine and tranny
warm up. After driving a few miles and coming to a complete stop,I
find it impossible to get it into any gear from neutral position.
Basically have to either grind it into reverse or turn the engine off,
put into gear, and restart. Jeep is still driveable, but would be nice
not to have to downshift every gear and keep it in gear at stop signs.
I have had this Jeep for a year now and realized this problem was
progressively becomming worse. I did change the trans fluid last month
and used Redline MTL. Shifting has been noticablly smoother, but this
"stuck in gear" problem has been worse. Any suggestions/
recommendations? Synchro gears going bad? Any inexpensive way to
diagnose and fix?

Gary Tateosian 05-12-2004 11:04 AM

Re: Transmission troubles
 
On 12 May 2004 07:51:17 -0700, pauleytrapp@hotmail.com (pauley) wrote:

.....sounds like a clutch problem to me.

....Gareth

Gary Tateosian 05-12-2004 11:04 AM

Re: Transmission troubles
 
On 12 May 2004 07:51:17 -0700, pauleytrapp@hotmail.com (pauley) wrote:

.....sounds like a clutch problem to me.

....Gareth

Gary Tateosian 05-12-2004 11:04 AM

Re: Transmission troubles
 
On 12 May 2004 07:51:17 -0700, pauleytrapp@hotmail.com (pauley) wrote:

.....sounds like a clutch problem to me.

....Gareth

Gary Tateosian 05-12-2004 11:04 AM

Re: Transmission troubles
 
On 12 May 2004 07:51:17 -0700, pauleytrapp@hotmail.com (pauley) wrote:

.....sounds like a clutch problem to me.

....Gareth

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-12-2004 12:35 PM

Re: Transmission troubles
 
You're describing the clutch is not releasing as Gary said. First
refill it's reservoir with brake fluid and pump it up. Then see if
there's any fluid leaking at it's push rod above it's peddle, or from
the bottom of the bellhousing with that distinctive smell to determine
which you have to replace, the master or the slave:
http://----------.com/clutch/
--
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

pauley wrote:
>
> Hello again my helpful friends. My 93 Sahara 5 speed (120K miles) is
> really starting to have tranny problems. Here are it's symptoms:
> shifting is smooth in and out of gears until the engine and tranny
> warm up. After driving a few miles and coming to a complete stop,I
> find it impossible to get it into any gear from neutral position.
> Basically have to either grind it into reverse or turn the engine off,
> put into gear, and restart. Jeep is still driveable, but would be nice
> not to have to downshift every gear and keep it in gear at stop signs.
> I have had this Jeep for a year now and realized this problem was
> progressively becomming worse. I did change the trans fluid last month
> and used Redline MTL. Shifting has been noticablly smoother, but this
> "stuck in gear" problem has been worse. Any suggestions/
> recommendations? Synchro gears going bad? Any inexpensive way to
> diagnose and fix?


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-12-2004 12:35 PM

Re: Transmission troubles
 
You're describing the clutch is not releasing as Gary said. First
refill it's reservoir with brake fluid and pump it up. Then see if
there's any fluid leaking at it's push rod above it's peddle, or from
the bottom of the bellhousing with that distinctive smell to determine
which you have to replace, the master or the slave:
http://----------.com/clutch/
--
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

pauley wrote:
>
> Hello again my helpful friends. My 93 Sahara 5 speed (120K miles) is
> really starting to have tranny problems. Here are it's symptoms:
> shifting is smooth in and out of gears until the engine and tranny
> warm up. After driving a few miles and coming to a complete stop,I
> find it impossible to get it into any gear from neutral position.
> Basically have to either grind it into reverse or turn the engine off,
> put into gear, and restart. Jeep is still driveable, but would be nice
> not to have to downshift every gear and keep it in gear at stop signs.
> I have had this Jeep for a year now and realized this problem was
> progressively becomming worse. I did change the trans fluid last month
> and used Redline MTL. Shifting has been noticablly smoother, but this
> "stuck in gear" problem has been worse. Any suggestions/
> recommendations? Synchro gears going bad? Any inexpensive way to
> diagnose and fix?


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-12-2004 12:35 PM

Re: Transmission troubles
 
You're describing the clutch is not releasing as Gary said. First
refill it's reservoir with brake fluid and pump it up. Then see if
there's any fluid leaking at it's push rod above it's peddle, or from
the bottom of the bellhousing with that distinctive smell to determine
which you have to replace, the master or the slave:
http://----------.com/clutch/
--
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

pauley wrote:
>
> Hello again my helpful friends. My 93 Sahara 5 speed (120K miles) is
> really starting to have tranny problems. Here are it's symptoms:
> shifting is smooth in and out of gears until the engine and tranny
> warm up. After driving a few miles and coming to a complete stop,I
> find it impossible to get it into any gear from neutral position.
> Basically have to either grind it into reverse or turn the engine off,
> put into gear, and restart. Jeep is still driveable, but would be nice
> not to have to downshift every gear and keep it in gear at stop signs.
> I have had this Jeep for a year now and realized this problem was
> progressively becomming worse. I did change the trans fluid last month
> and used Redline MTL. Shifting has been noticablly smoother, but this
> "stuck in gear" problem has been worse. Any suggestions/
> recommendations? Synchro gears going bad? Any inexpensive way to
> diagnose and fix?


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-12-2004 12:35 PM

Re: Transmission troubles
 
You're describing the clutch is not releasing as Gary said. First
refill it's reservoir with brake fluid and pump it up. Then see if
there's any fluid leaking at it's push rod above it's peddle, or from
the bottom of the bellhousing with that distinctive smell to determine
which you have to replace, the master or the slave:
http://----------.com/clutch/
--
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

pauley wrote:
>
> Hello again my helpful friends. My 93 Sahara 5 speed (120K miles) is
> really starting to have tranny problems. Here are it's symptoms:
> shifting is smooth in and out of gears until the engine and tranny
> warm up. After driving a few miles and coming to a complete stop,I
> find it impossible to get it into any gear from neutral position.
> Basically have to either grind it into reverse or turn the engine off,
> put into gear, and restart. Jeep is still driveable, but would be nice
> not to have to downshift every gear and keep it in gear at stop signs.
> I have had this Jeep for a year now and realized this problem was
> progressively becomming worse. I did change the trans fluid last month
> and used Redline MTL. Shifting has been noticablly smoother, but this
> "stuck in gear" problem has been worse. Any suggestions/
> recommendations? Synchro gears going bad? Any inexpensive way to
> diagnose and fix?


jdarg 05-12-2004 01:25 PM

Re: Transmission troubles
 
If you turn off the engine does it easily go into gear then? My 94 had a
clutch that would "hang up" and not release all the way when warmed-up.
Clutch master/slave were both fine. Solution was to remove tranny from
engine and regrease the transmission input shaft.

"pauley" <pauleytrapp@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:afa39abe.0405120651.41d046d2@posting.google.c om...
> Hello again my helpful friends. My 93 Sahara 5 speed (120K miles) is
> really starting to have tranny problems. Here are it's symptoms:
> shifting is smooth in and out of gears until the engine and tranny
> warm up. After driving a few miles and coming to a complete stop,I
> find it impossible to get it into any gear from neutral position.
> Basically have to either grind it into reverse or turn the engine off,
> put into gear, and restart. Jeep is still driveable, but would be nice
> not to have to downshift every gear and keep it in gear at stop signs.
> I have had this Jeep for a year now and realized this problem was
> progressively becomming worse. I did change the trans fluid last month
> and used Redline MTL. Shifting has been noticablly smoother, but this
> "stuck in gear" problem has been worse. Any suggestions/
> recommendations? Synchro gears going bad? Any inexpensive way to
> diagnose and fix?




jdarg 05-12-2004 01:25 PM

Re: Transmission troubles
 
If you turn off the engine does it easily go into gear then? My 94 had a
clutch that would "hang up" and not release all the way when warmed-up.
Clutch master/slave were both fine. Solution was to remove tranny from
engine and regrease the transmission input shaft.

"pauley" <pauleytrapp@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:afa39abe.0405120651.41d046d2@posting.google.c om...
> Hello again my helpful friends. My 93 Sahara 5 speed (120K miles) is
> really starting to have tranny problems. Here are it's symptoms:
> shifting is smooth in and out of gears until the engine and tranny
> warm up. After driving a few miles and coming to a complete stop,I
> find it impossible to get it into any gear from neutral position.
> Basically have to either grind it into reverse or turn the engine off,
> put into gear, and restart. Jeep is still driveable, but would be nice
> not to have to downshift every gear and keep it in gear at stop signs.
> I have had this Jeep for a year now and realized this problem was
> progressively becomming worse. I did change the trans fluid last month
> and used Redline MTL. Shifting has been noticablly smoother, but this
> "stuck in gear" problem has been worse. Any suggestions/
> recommendations? Synchro gears going bad? Any inexpensive way to
> diagnose and fix?




jdarg 05-12-2004 01:25 PM

Re: Transmission troubles
 
If you turn off the engine does it easily go into gear then? My 94 had a
clutch that would "hang up" and not release all the way when warmed-up.
Clutch master/slave were both fine. Solution was to remove tranny from
engine and regrease the transmission input shaft.

"pauley" <pauleytrapp@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:afa39abe.0405120651.41d046d2@posting.google.c om...
> Hello again my helpful friends. My 93 Sahara 5 speed (120K miles) is
> really starting to have tranny problems. Here are it's symptoms:
> shifting is smooth in and out of gears until the engine and tranny
> warm up. After driving a few miles and coming to a complete stop,I
> find it impossible to get it into any gear from neutral position.
> Basically have to either grind it into reverse or turn the engine off,
> put into gear, and restart. Jeep is still driveable, but would be nice
> not to have to downshift every gear and keep it in gear at stop signs.
> I have had this Jeep for a year now and realized this problem was
> progressively becomming worse. I did change the trans fluid last month
> and used Redline MTL. Shifting has been noticablly smoother, but this
> "stuck in gear" problem has been worse. Any suggestions/
> recommendations? Synchro gears going bad? Any inexpensive way to
> diagnose and fix?




jdarg 05-12-2004 01:25 PM

Re: Transmission troubles
 
If you turn off the engine does it easily go into gear then? My 94 had a
clutch that would "hang up" and not release all the way when warmed-up.
Clutch master/slave were both fine. Solution was to remove tranny from
engine and regrease the transmission input shaft.

"pauley" <pauleytrapp@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:afa39abe.0405120651.41d046d2@posting.google.c om...
> Hello again my helpful friends. My 93 Sahara 5 speed (120K miles) is
> really starting to have tranny problems. Here are it's symptoms:
> shifting is smooth in and out of gears until the engine and tranny
> warm up. After driving a few miles and coming to a complete stop,I
> find it impossible to get it into any gear from neutral position.
> Basically have to either grind it into reverse or turn the engine off,
> put into gear, and restart. Jeep is still driveable, but would be nice
> not to have to downshift every gear and keep it in gear at stop signs.
> I have had this Jeep for a year now and realized this problem was
> progressively becomming worse. I did change the trans fluid last month
> and used Redline MTL. Shifting has been noticablly smoother, but this
> "stuck in gear" problem has been worse. Any suggestions/
> recommendations? Synchro gears going bad? Any inexpensive way to
> diagnose and fix?




Jeepster 05-12-2004 05:38 PM

Re: Transmission troubles
 
On 12 May 2004 07:51:17 -0700, pauleytrapp@hotmail.com (pauley) wrote:

>Hello again my helpful friends. My 93 Sahara 5 speed (120K miles) is
>really starting to have tranny problems. Here are it's symptoms:
>shifting is smooth in and out of gears until the engine and tranny
>warm up. After driving a few miles and coming to a complete stop,I
>find it impossible to get it into any gear from neutral position.
>Basically have to either grind it into reverse or turn the engine off,
>put into gear, and restart. Jeep is still driveable, but would be nice
>not to have to downshift every gear and keep it in gear at stop signs.
>I have had this Jeep for a year now and realized this problem was
>progressively becomming worse. I did change the trans fluid last month
>and used Redline MTL. Shifting has been noticablly smoother, but this
>"stuck in gear" problem has been worse. Any suggestions/
>recommendations? Synchro gears going bad? Any inexpensive way to
>diagnose and fix?


Mine has a similar problem and the clutch is good(replaced 2 years
ago). When it warms up the beast does not want to go into 1st so I end
up putting it in 2nd or 3rd and getting the vehicle to roll a bit then
it will drop into 1st no problem. I attribute the problem to a tired
tranny and have been told by a transmission shop it is probably the
syncro gears.

Jeepster 05-12-2004 05:38 PM

Re: Transmission troubles
 
On 12 May 2004 07:51:17 -0700, pauleytrapp@hotmail.com (pauley) wrote:

>Hello again my helpful friends. My 93 Sahara 5 speed (120K miles) is
>really starting to have tranny problems. Here are it's symptoms:
>shifting is smooth in and out of gears until the engine and tranny
>warm up. After driving a few miles and coming to a complete stop,I
>find it impossible to get it into any gear from neutral position.
>Basically have to either grind it into reverse or turn the engine off,
>put into gear, and restart. Jeep is still driveable, but would be nice
>not to have to downshift every gear and keep it in gear at stop signs.
>I have had this Jeep for a year now and realized this problem was
>progressively becomming worse. I did change the trans fluid last month
>and used Redline MTL. Shifting has been noticablly smoother, but this
>"stuck in gear" problem has been worse. Any suggestions/
>recommendations? Synchro gears going bad? Any inexpensive way to
>diagnose and fix?


Mine has a similar problem and the clutch is good(replaced 2 years
ago). When it warms up the beast does not want to go into 1st so I end
up putting it in 2nd or 3rd and getting the vehicle to roll a bit then
it will drop into 1st no problem. I attribute the problem to a tired
tranny and have been told by a transmission shop it is probably the
syncro gears.

Jeepster 05-12-2004 05:38 PM

Re: Transmission troubles
 
On 12 May 2004 07:51:17 -0700, pauleytrapp@hotmail.com (pauley) wrote:

>Hello again my helpful friends. My 93 Sahara 5 speed (120K miles) is
>really starting to have tranny problems. Here are it's symptoms:
>shifting is smooth in and out of gears until the engine and tranny
>warm up. After driving a few miles and coming to a complete stop,I
>find it impossible to get it into any gear from neutral position.
>Basically have to either grind it into reverse or turn the engine off,
>put into gear, and restart. Jeep is still driveable, but would be nice
>not to have to downshift every gear and keep it in gear at stop signs.
>I have had this Jeep for a year now and realized this problem was
>progressively becomming worse. I did change the trans fluid last month
>and used Redline MTL. Shifting has been noticablly smoother, but this
>"stuck in gear" problem has been worse. Any suggestions/
>recommendations? Synchro gears going bad? Any inexpensive way to
>diagnose and fix?


Mine has a similar problem and the clutch is good(replaced 2 years
ago). When it warms up the beast does not want to go into 1st so I end
up putting it in 2nd or 3rd and getting the vehicle to roll a bit then
it will drop into 1st no problem. I attribute the problem to a tired
tranny and have been told by a transmission shop it is probably the
syncro gears.

Jeepster 05-12-2004 05:38 PM

Re: Transmission troubles
 
On 12 May 2004 07:51:17 -0700, pauleytrapp@hotmail.com (pauley) wrote:

>Hello again my helpful friends. My 93 Sahara 5 speed (120K miles) is
>really starting to have tranny problems. Here are it's symptoms:
>shifting is smooth in and out of gears until the engine and tranny
>warm up. After driving a few miles and coming to a complete stop,I
>find it impossible to get it into any gear from neutral position.
>Basically have to either grind it into reverse or turn the engine off,
>put into gear, and restart. Jeep is still driveable, but would be nice
>not to have to downshift every gear and keep it in gear at stop signs.
>I have had this Jeep for a year now and realized this problem was
>progressively becomming worse. I did change the trans fluid last month
>and used Redline MTL. Shifting has been noticablly smoother, but this
>"stuck in gear" problem has been worse. Any suggestions/
>recommendations? Synchro gears going bad? Any inexpensive way to
>diagnose and fix?


Mine has a similar problem and the clutch is good(replaced 2 years
ago). When it warms up the beast does not want to go into 1st so I end
up putting it in 2nd or 3rd and getting the vehicle to roll a bit then
it will drop into 1st no problem. I attribute the problem to a tired
tranny and have been told by a transmission shop it is probably the
syncro gears.

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-12-2004 06:20 PM

Re: Transmission troubles
 
Denial's not just a river in Egypt.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeepster wrote:
>
> Mine has a similar problem and the clutch is good(replaced 2 years
> ago). When it warms up the beast does not want to go into 1st so I end
> up putting it in 2nd or 3rd and getting the vehicle to roll a bit then
> it will drop into 1st no problem. I attribute the problem to a tired
> tranny and have been told by a transmission shop it is probably the
> syncro gears.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-12-2004 06:20 PM

Re: Transmission troubles
 
Denial's not just a river in Egypt.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeepster wrote:
>
> Mine has a similar problem and the clutch is good(replaced 2 years
> ago). When it warms up the beast does not want to go into 1st so I end
> up putting it in 2nd or 3rd and getting the vehicle to roll a bit then
> it will drop into 1st no problem. I attribute the problem to a tired
> tranny and have been told by a transmission shop it is probably the
> syncro gears.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-12-2004 06:20 PM

Re: Transmission troubles
 
Denial's not just a river in Egypt.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeepster wrote:
>
> Mine has a similar problem and the clutch is good(replaced 2 years
> ago). When it warms up the beast does not want to go into 1st so I end
> up putting it in 2nd or 3rd and getting the vehicle to roll a bit then
> it will drop into 1st no problem. I attribute the problem to a tired
> tranny and have been told by a transmission shop it is probably the
> syncro gears.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-12-2004 06:20 PM

Re: Transmission troubles
 
Denial's not just a river in Egypt.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeepster wrote:
>
> Mine has a similar problem and the clutch is good(replaced 2 years
> ago). When it warms up the beast does not want to go into 1st so I end
> up putting it in 2nd or 3rd and getting the vehicle to roll a bit then
> it will drop into 1st no problem. I attribute the problem to a tired
> tranny and have been told by a transmission shop it is probably the
> syncro gears.


SB 05-12-2004 08:26 PM

Re: Transmission troubles
 
ya..it's what my ex does when people ask her if she slept with me! :(

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:40A2A337.EB60F320@cox.net...
> Denial's not just a river in Egypt.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeepster wrote:
> >
> > Mine has a similar problem and the clutch is good(replaced 2 years
> > ago). When it warms up the beast does not want to go into 1st so I end
> > up putting it in 2nd or 3rd and getting the vehicle to roll a bit then
> > it will drop into 1st no problem. I attribute the problem to a tired
> > tranny and have been told by a transmission shop it is probably the
> > syncro gears.




SB 05-12-2004 08:26 PM

Re: Transmission troubles
 
ya..it's what my ex does when people ask her if she slept with me! :(

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:40A2A337.EB60F320@cox.net...
> Denial's not just a river in Egypt.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeepster wrote:
> >
> > Mine has a similar problem and the clutch is good(replaced 2 years
> > ago). When it warms up the beast does not want to go into 1st so I end
> > up putting it in 2nd or 3rd and getting the vehicle to roll a bit then
> > it will drop into 1st no problem. I attribute the problem to a tired
> > tranny and have been told by a transmission shop it is probably the
> > syncro gears.




SB 05-12-2004 08:26 PM

Re: Transmission troubles
 
ya..it's what my ex does when people ask her if she slept with me! :(

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:40A2A337.EB60F320@cox.net...
> Denial's not just a river in Egypt.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeepster wrote:
> >
> > Mine has a similar problem and the clutch is good(replaced 2 years
> > ago). When it warms up the beast does not want to go into 1st so I end
> > up putting it in 2nd or 3rd and getting the vehicle to roll a bit then
> > it will drop into 1st no problem. I attribute the problem to a tired
> > tranny and have been told by a transmission shop it is probably the
> > syncro gears.




SB 05-12-2004 08:26 PM

Re: Transmission troubles
 
ya..it's what my ex does when people ask her if she slept with me! :(

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:40A2A337.EB60F320@cox.net...
> Denial's not just a river in Egypt.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeepster wrote:
> >
> > Mine has a similar problem and the clutch is good(replaced 2 years
> > ago). When it warms up the beast does not want to go into 1st so I end
> > up putting it in 2nd or 3rd and getting the vehicle to roll a bit then
> > it will drop into 1st no problem. I attribute the problem to a tired
> > tranny and have been told by a transmission shop it is probably the
> > syncro gears.




Joseph P 05-12-2004 11:22 PM

Re: Transmission troubles
 
In news:Pgzoc.1113$mP11.742@news04.bloor.is.net.cable .rogers.com,
SB from <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> was injured because:

| ya..it's what my ex does when people ask her if she slept with
| me! :(
|
| "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
| news:40A2A337.EB60F320@cox.net...
|| Denial's not just a river in Egypt.
|| God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
|| mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
||
|| Jeepster wrote:
|||
||| Mine has a similar problem and the clutch is good(replaced 2
||| years ago). When it warms up the beast does not want to go
||| into 1st so I end up putting it in 2nd or 3rd and getting
||| the vehicle to roll a bit then it will drop into 1st no
||| problem. I attribute the problem to a tired tranny and have
||| been told by a transmission shop it is probably the syncro
||| gears.

Feel better after posting that?

--
--
Joe Pribe
NC
jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ




Joseph P 05-12-2004 11:22 PM

Re: Transmission troubles
 
In news:Pgzoc.1113$mP11.742@news04.bloor.is.net.cable .rogers.com,
SB from <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> was injured because:

| ya..it's what my ex does when people ask her if she slept with
| me! :(
|
| "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
| news:40A2A337.EB60F320@cox.net...
|| Denial's not just a river in Egypt.
|| God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
|| mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
||
|| Jeepster wrote:
|||
||| Mine has a similar problem and the clutch is good(replaced 2
||| years ago). When it warms up the beast does not want to go
||| into 1st so I end up putting it in 2nd or 3rd and getting
||| the vehicle to roll a bit then it will drop into 1st no
||| problem. I attribute the problem to a tired tranny and have
||| been told by a transmission shop it is probably the syncro
||| gears.

Feel better after posting that?

--
--
Joe Pribe
NC
jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ




Joseph P 05-12-2004 11:22 PM

Re: Transmission troubles
 
In news:Pgzoc.1113$mP11.742@news04.bloor.is.net.cable .rogers.com,
SB from <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> was injured because:

| ya..it's what my ex does when people ask her if she slept with
| me! :(
|
| "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
| news:40A2A337.EB60F320@cox.net...
|| Denial's not just a river in Egypt.
|| God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
|| mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
||
|| Jeepster wrote:
|||
||| Mine has a similar problem and the clutch is good(replaced 2
||| years ago). When it warms up the beast does not want to go
||| into 1st so I end up putting it in 2nd or 3rd and getting
||| the vehicle to roll a bit then it will drop into 1st no
||| problem. I attribute the problem to a tired tranny and have
||| been told by a transmission shop it is probably the syncro
||| gears.

Feel better after posting that?

--
--
Joe Pribe
NC
jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ




Joseph P 05-12-2004 11:22 PM

Re: Transmission troubles
 
In news:Pgzoc.1113$mP11.742@news04.bloor.is.net.cable .rogers.com,
SB from <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> was injured because:

| ya..it's what my ex does when people ask her if she slept with
| me! :(
|
| "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
| news:40A2A337.EB60F320@cox.net...
|| Denial's not just a river in Egypt.
|| God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
|| mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
||
|| Jeepster wrote:
|||
||| Mine has a similar problem and the clutch is good(replaced 2
||| years ago). When it warms up the beast does not want to go
||| into 1st so I end up putting it in 2nd or 3rd and getting
||| the vehicle to roll a bit then it will drop into 1st no
||| problem. I attribute the problem to a tired tranny and have
||| been told by a transmission shop it is probably the syncro
||| gears.

Feel better after posting that?

--
--
Joe Pribe
NC
jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ




pauley 05-13-2004 09:31 AM

Re: Transmission troubles
 
"Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message news:<ERBoc.28441$V_.1164664@twister.southeast.rr. com>...
> In news:Pgzoc.1113$mP11.742@news04.bloor.is.net.cable .rogers.com,
> SB from <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> was injured because:
>
> | ya..it's what my ex does when people ask her if she slept with
> | me! :(
> |
> | "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> | news:40A2A337.EB60F320@cox.net...
> || Denial's not just a river in Egypt.
> || God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> || mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> ||
> || Jeepster wrote:
> |||
> ||| Mine has a similar problem and the clutch is good(replaced 2
> ||| years ago). When it warms up the beast does not want to go
> ||| into 1st so I end up putting it in 2nd or 3rd and getting
> ||| the vehicle to roll a bit then it will drop into 1st no
> ||| problem. I attribute the problem to a tired tranny and have
> ||| been told by a transmission shop it is probably the syncro
> ||| gears.
>
> Feel better after posting that?
>
> --

Thanks for all the input. I will investigate the clutch as Bill
described this weekend. One other "symptom" I forgot to add was when
it starts having the "stuck in neutral" problem, I come to a complete
stop, have to almost fight it into reverse(that is the only gear it
goes into when running), I have this feeling in the shifter like
something is spinning in the trans and by grinding it in reverse, this
stops it and allows to shift again??

pauley 05-13-2004 09:31 AM

Re: Transmission troubles
 
"Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message news:<ERBoc.28441$V_.1164664@twister.southeast.rr. com>...
> In news:Pgzoc.1113$mP11.742@news04.bloor.is.net.cable .rogers.com,
> SB from <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> was injured because:
>
> | ya..it's what my ex does when people ask her if she slept with
> | me! :(
> |
> | "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> | news:40A2A337.EB60F320@cox.net...
> || Denial's not just a river in Egypt.
> || God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> || mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> ||
> || Jeepster wrote:
> |||
> ||| Mine has a similar problem and the clutch is good(replaced 2
> ||| years ago). When it warms up the beast does not want to go
> ||| into 1st so I end up putting it in 2nd or 3rd and getting
> ||| the vehicle to roll a bit then it will drop into 1st no
> ||| problem. I attribute the problem to a tired tranny and have
> ||| been told by a transmission shop it is probably the syncro
> ||| gears.
>
> Feel better after posting that?
>
> --

Thanks for all the input. I will investigate the clutch as Bill
described this weekend. One other "symptom" I forgot to add was when
it starts having the "stuck in neutral" problem, I come to a complete
stop, have to almost fight it into reverse(that is the only gear it
goes into when running), I have this feeling in the shifter like
something is spinning in the trans and by grinding it in reverse, this
stops it and allows to shift again??

pauley 05-13-2004 09:31 AM

Re: Transmission troubles
 
"Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message news:<ERBoc.28441$V_.1164664@twister.southeast.rr. com>...
> In news:Pgzoc.1113$mP11.742@news04.bloor.is.net.cable .rogers.com,
> SB from <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> was injured because:
>
> | ya..it's what my ex does when people ask her if she slept with
> | me! :(
> |
> | "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> | news:40A2A337.EB60F320@cox.net...
> || Denial's not just a river in Egypt.
> || God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> || mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> ||
> || Jeepster wrote:
> |||
> ||| Mine has a similar problem and the clutch is good(replaced 2
> ||| years ago). When it warms up the beast does not want to go
> ||| into 1st so I end up putting it in 2nd or 3rd and getting
> ||| the vehicle to roll a bit then it will drop into 1st no
> ||| problem. I attribute the problem to a tired tranny and have
> ||| been told by a transmission shop it is probably the syncro
> ||| gears.
>
> Feel better after posting that?
>
> --

Thanks for all the input. I will investigate the clutch as Bill
described this weekend. One other "symptom" I forgot to add was when
it starts having the "stuck in neutral" problem, I come to a complete
stop, have to almost fight it into reverse(that is the only gear it
goes into when running), I have this feeling in the shifter like
something is spinning in the trans and by grinding it in reverse, this
stops it and allows to shift again??

pauley 05-13-2004 09:31 AM

Re: Transmission troubles
 
"Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message news:<ERBoc.28441$V_.1164664@twister.southeast.rr. com>...
> In news:Pgzoc.1113$mP11.742@news04.bloor.is.net.cable .rogers.com,
> SB from <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> was injured because:
>
> | ya..it's what my ex does when people ask her if she slept with
> | me! :(
> |
> | "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> | news:40A2A337.EB60F320@cox.net...
> || Denial's not just a river in Egypt.
> || God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> || mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> ||
> || Jeepster wrote:
> |||
> ||| Mine has a similar problem and the clutch is good(replaced 2
> ||| years ago). When it warms up the beast does not want to go
> ||| into 1st so I end up putting it in 2nd or 3rd and getting
> ||| the vehicle to roll a bit then it will drop into 1st no
> ||| problem. I attribute the problem to a tired tranny and have
> ||| been told by a transmission shop it is probably the syncro
> ||| gears.
>
> Feel better after posting that?
>
> --

Thanks for all the input. I will investigate the clutch as Bill
described this weekend. One other "symptom" I forgot to add was when
it starts having the "stuck in neutral" problem, I come to a complete
stop, have to almost fight it into reverse(that is the only gear it
goes into when running), I have this feeling in the shifter like
something is spinning in the trans and by grinding it in reverse, this
stops it and allows to shift again??

jdarg 05-13-2004 01:08 PM

Re: Transmission troubles
 
When it does this put the clutch pedal down to the floor, hold it there for
10-15 seconds, and then slowly go towards reverse - you may hit a sweet spot
where it's not quite in R all the way but the gears are starting to mesh and
it makes a light grinding sound that *keeps grinding* rather than slowing
down then stopping when you barely have it in R. If it does this then the
clutch isn't releasing all the way. I would really doubt trying to get into
a gear from a dead stop is a bad synchro. Minor issues with the clutch not
pulling off all the way will often exhibit themselves in only 1st. Worse
cases will do it in 2nd/3rd (that's how mine was) so that you have to go
into 4th or 5th before 1st/2nd/3rd to get it not do it.

"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
news:g665a0l96c2rpvkf3tuqoied74sel4t704@4ax.com...
> On 12 May 2004 07:51:17 -0700, pauleytrapp@hotmail.com (pauley) wrote:
>
> >Hello again my helpful friends. My 93 Sahara 5 speed (120K miles) is
> >really starting to have tranny problems. Here are it's symptoms:
> >shifting is smooth in and out of gears until the engine and tranny
> >warm up. After driving a few miles and coming to a complete stop,I
> >find it impossible to get it into any gear from neutral position.
> >Basically have to either grind it into reverse or turn the engine off,
> >put into gear, and restart. Jeep is still driveable, but would be nice
> >not to have to downshift every gear and keep it in gear at stop signs.
> >I have had this Jeep for a year now and realized this problem was
> >progressively becomming worse. I did change the trans fluid last month
> >and used Redline MTL. Shifting has been noticablly smoother, but this
> >"stuck in gear" problem has been worse. Any suggestions/
> >recommendations? Synchro gears going bad? Any inexpensive way to
> >diagnose and fix?

>
> Mine has a similar problem and the clutch is good(replaced 2 years
> ago). When it warms up the beast does not want to go into 1st so I end
> up putting it in 2nd or 3rd and getting the vehicle to roll a bit then
> it will drop into 1st no problem. I attribute the problem to a tired
> tranny and have been told by a transmission shop it is probably the
> syncro gears.




jdarg 05-13-2004 01:08 PM

Re: Transmission troubles
 
When it does this put the clutch pedal down to the floor, hold it there for
10-15 seconds, and then slowly go towards reverse - you may hit a sweet spot
where it's not quite in R all the way but the gears are starting to mesh and
it makes a light grinding sound that *keeps grinding* rather than slowing
down then stopping when you barely have it in R. If it does this then the
clutch isn't releasing all the way. I would really doubt trying to get into
a gear from a dead stop is a bad synchro. Minor issues with the clutch not
pulling off all the way will often exhibit themselves in only 1st. Worse
cases will do it in 2nd/3rd (that's how mine was) so that you have to go
into 4th or 5th before 1st/2nd/3rd to get it not do it.

"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
news:g665a0l96c2rpvkf3tuqoied74sel4t704@4ax.com...
> On 12 May 2004 07:51:17 -0700, pauleytrapp@hotmail.com (pauley) wrote:
>
> >Hello again my helpful friends. My 93 Sahara 5 speed (120K miles) is
> >really starting to have tranny problems. Here are it's symptoms:
> >shifting is smooth in and out of gears until the engine and tranny
> >warm up. After driving a few miles and coming to a complete stop,I
> >find it impossible to get it into any gear from neutral position.
> >Basically have to either grind it into reverse or turn the engine off,
> >put into gear, and restart. Jeep is still driveable, but would be nice
> >not to have to downshift every gear and keep it in gear at stop signs.
> >I have had this Jeep for a year now and realized this problem was
> >progressively becomming worse. I did change the trans fluid last month
> >and used Redline MTL. Shifting has been noticablly smoother, but this
> >"stuck in gear" problem has been worse. Any suggestions/
> >recommendations? Synchro gears going bad? Any inexpensive way to
> >diagnose and fix?

>
> Mine has a similar problem and the clutch is good(replaced 2 years
> ago). When it warms up the beast does not want to go into 1st so I end
> up putting it in 2nd or 3rd and getting the vehicle to roll a bit then
> it will drop into 1st no problem. I attribute the problem to a tired
> tranny and have been told by a transmission shop it is probably the
> syncro gears.




jdarg 05-13-2004 01:08 PM

Re: Transmission troubles
 
When it does this put the clutch pedal down to the floor, hold it there for
10-15 seconds, and then slowly go towards reverse - you may hit a sweet spot
where it's not quite in R all the way but the gears are starting to mesh and
it makes a light grinding sound that *keeps grinding* rather than slowing
down then stopping when you barely have it in R. If it does this then the
clutch isn't releasing all the way. I would really doubt trying to get into
a gear from a dead stop is a bad synchro. Minor issues with the clutch not
pulling off all the way will often exhibit themselves in only 1st. Worse
cases will do it in 2nd/3rd (that's how mine was) so that you have to go
into 4th or 5th before 1st/2nd/3rd to get it not do it.

"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
news:g665a0l96c2rpvkf3tuqoied74sel4t704@4ax.com...
> On 12 May 2004 07:51:17 -0700, pauleytrapp@hotmail.com (pauley) wrote:
>
> >Hello again my helpful friends. My 93 Sahara 5 speed (120K miles) is
> >really starting to have tranny problems. Here are it's symptoms:
> >shifting is smooth in and out of gears until the engine and tranny
> >warm up. After driving a few miles and coming to a complete stop,I
> >find it impossible to get it into any gear from neutral position.
> >Basically have to either grind it into reverse or turn the engine off,
> >put into gear, and restart. Jeep is still driveable, but would be nice
> >not to have to downshift every gear and keep it in gear at stop signs.
> >I have had this Jeep for a year now and realized this problem was
> >progressively becomming worse. I did change the trans fluid last month
> >and used Redline MTL. Shifting has been noticablly smoother, but this
> >"stuck in gear" problem has been worse. Any suggestions/
> >recommendations? Synchro gears going bad? Any inexpensive way to
> >diagnose and fix?

>
> Mine has a similar problem and the clutch is good(replaced 2 years
> ago). When it warms up the beast does not want to go into 1st so I end
> up putting it in 2nd or 3rd and getting the vehicle to roll a bit then
> it will drop into 1st no problem. I attribute the problem to a tired
> tranny and have been told by a transmission shop it is probably the
> syncro gears.




jdarg 05-13-2004 01:08 PM

Re: Transmission troubles
 
When it does this put the clutch pedal down to the floor, hold it there for
10-15 seconds, and then slowly go towards reverse - you may hit a sweet spot
where it's not quite in R all the way but the gears are starting to mesh and
it makes a light grinding sound that *keeps grinding* rather than slowing
down then stopping when you barely have it in R. If it does this then the
clutch isn't releasing all the way. I would really doubt trying to get into
a gear from a dead stop is a bad synchro. Minor issues with the clutch not
pulling off all the way will often exhibit themselves in only 1st. Worse
cases will do it in 2nd/3rd (that's how mine was) so that you have to go
into 4th or 5th before 1st/2nd/3rd to get it not do it.

"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
news:g665a0l96c2rpvkf3tuqoied74sel4t704@4ax.com...
> On 12 May 2004 07:51:17 -0700, pauleytrapp@hotmail.com (pauley) wrote:
>
> >Hello again my helpful friends. My 93 Sahara 5 speed (120K miles) is
> >really starting to have tranny problems. Here are it's symptoms:
> >shifting is smooth in and out of gears until the engine and tranny
> >warm up. After driving a few miles and coming to a complete stop,I
> >find it impossible to get it into any gear from neutral position.
> >Basically have to either grind it into reverse or turn the engine off,
> >put into gear, and restart. Jeep is still driveable, but would be nice
> >not to have to downshift every gear and keep it in gear at stop signs.
> >I have had this Jeep for a year now and realized this problem was
> >progressively becomming worse. I did change the trans fluid last month
> >and used Redline MTL. Shifting has been noticablly smoother, but this
> >"stuck in gear" problem has been worse. Any suggestions/
> >recommendations? Synchro gears going bad? Any inexpensive way to
> >diagnose and fix?

>
> Mine has a similar problem and the clutch is good(replaced 2 years
> ago). When it warms up the beast does not want to go into 1st so I end
> up putting it in 2nd or 3rd and getting the vehicle to roll a bit then
> it will drop into 1st no problem. I attribute the problem to a tired
> tranny and have been told by a transmission shop it is probably the
> syncro gears.





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