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01-15-2004 07:34 PM

Tranny fill plug location on 86 cherokee?
 
Ujoints done...

Went to fill tranny with gear oil... owners manual shows the fill plug on
the passenger side but I can't find it there and everyone I talk to says
it's on driver's side.

Can't see anything real obvious on driver's side either.

This is a 4 speed 2wd.



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-15-2004 08:51 PM

Re: Tranny fill plug location on 86 cherokee?
 
I'm guessing you have a Borg-Warner T-4 which should look like
this T-5 and all other BWs with the drain and fill plugs on the
left/passenger side:
http://www.rubicon4x4.com/catalog/po...e.php/pID/5926
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

m wrote:
>
> Ujoints done...
>
> Went to fill tranny with gear oil... owners manual shows the fill plug on
> the passenger side but I can't find it there and everyone I talk to says
> it's on driver's side.
>
> Can't see anything real obvious on driver's side either.
>
> This is a 4 speed 2wd.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-15-2004 08:51 PM

Re: Tranny fill plug location on 86 cherokee?
 
I'm guessing you have a Borg-Warner T-4 which should look like
this T-5 and all other BWs with the drain and fill plugs on the
left/passenger side:
http://www.rubicon4x4.com/catalog/po...e.php/pID/5926
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

m wrote:
>
> Ujoints done...
>
> Went to fill tranny with gear oil... owners manual shows the fill plug on
> the passenger side but I can't find it there and everyone I talk to says
> it's on driver's side.
>
> Can't see anything real obvious on driver's side either.
>
> This is a 4 speed 2wd.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-15-2004 08:51 PM

Re: Tranny fill plug location on 86 cherokee?
 
I'm guessing you have a Borg-Warner T-4 which should look like
this T-5 and all other BWs with the drain and fill plugs on the
left/passenger side:
http://www.rubicon4x4.com/catalog/po...e.php/pID/5926
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

m wrote:
>
> Ujoints done...
>
> Went to fill tranny with gear oil... owners manual shows the fill plug on
> the passenger side but I can't find it there and everyone I talk to says
> it's on driver's side.
>
> Can't see anything real obvious on driver's side either.
>
> This is a 4 speed 2wd.


01-15-2004 09:50 PM

Re: Tranny fill plug location on 86 cherokee?
 
Thanks bro, but I must have an oddball... I'll shoot a picture of it and put
it up tomorrow.

This has what looks like it could be a plug on the top at a slight angle
near the shifter stick entry... this big (plug) has a big hex receptacle in
it... looks to be maybe about a half-inch hex receptacle. There are also a
few torx screws on the driver side that could be plugs, but no trivial oil
seepage like you usually see on a fill or drain plug. These are bone dry.
The big (plug) on top does show some oil residue and there's a little oil
residue on the cover where the shifter enters the tranny. There's also what
might be a drain plug on the very bottom of the tranny. It's a big hex head
thing- maybe a 3/4" hex- but not a socket- more like a bolt. The rear of the
tranny is conical, with a "collar" about 3-4 inches in diameter where the
driveshaft yoke enters the tranny... the collar is maybe 1.5 inches deep and
kinda "shields" the shaft that enters the tranny and the tranny itself is
pretty small compared to the one in my camaro when I had it.

I bought this Jeeper new in '86. It was priced at $8997 iirc and I talked
them down some. It was a "price leader" so they could run an ad in the paper
at $8997. It came with no rear seat or A/C lol. I bought a butcherblock
formica countertop and jigsawed it to fit the top where the seat would be. I
have 2 6x9 Pioneer dual cones in that countertop and they sound pretty dang
good with the old 1978-80 vintage Fosgate P-100 pumping them. Had to rebuild
the Fosgate at one point too... replaced every component on the board.
Someone stole the Jeep around 1989 and ripped off my preamp before running
it into a wall but it still kicks..

It's been a really, really good horse and until the engine started idling
rough the other day, it was showing no signs of age as far as the engine
goes. The 2.5 was supposedly a Renault cast iron block so i wonder if the
tranny is Renault...

--
Skip


"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:400743A9.99766577@cox.net...
> I'm guessing you have a Borg-Warner T-4 which should look like
> this T-5 and all other BWs with the drain and fill plugs on the
> left/passenger side:
> http://www.rubicon4x4.com/catalog/po...e.php/pID/5926
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> m wrote:
> >
> > Ujoints done...
> >
> > Went to fill tranny with gear oil... owners manual shows the fill plug

on
> > the passenger side but I can't find it there and everyone I talk to says
> > it's on driver's side.
> >
> > Can't see anything real obvious on driver's side either.
> >
> > This is a 4 speed 2wd.




01-15-2004 09:50 PM

Re: Tranny fill plug location on 86 cherokee?
 
Thanks bro, but I must have an oddball... I'll shoot a picture of it and put
it up tomorrow.

This has what looks like it could be a plug on the top at a slight angle
near the shifter stick entry... this big (plug) has a big hex receptacle in
it... looks to be maybe about a half-inch hex receptacle. There are also a
few torx screws on the driver side that could be plugs, but no trivial oil
seepage like you usually see on a fill or drain plug. These are bone dry.
The big (plug) on top does show some oil residue and there's a little oil
residue on the cover where the shifter enters the tranny. There's also what
might be a drain plug on the very bottom of the tranny. It's a big hex head
thing- maybe a 3/4" hex- but not a socket- more like a bolt. The rear of the
tranny is conical, with a "collar" about 3-4 inches in diameter where the
driveshaft yoke enters the tranny... the collar is maybe 1.5 inches deep and
kinda "shields" the shaft that enters the tranny and the tranny itself is
pretty small compared to the one in my camaro when I had it.

I bought this Jeeper new in '86. It was priced at $8997 iirc and I talked
them down some. It was a "price leader" so they could run an ad in the paper
at $8997. It came with no rear seat or A/C lol. I bought a butcherblock
formica countertop and jigsawed it to fit the top where the seat would be. I
have 2 6x9 Pioneer dual cones in that countertop and they sound pretty dang
good with the old 1978-80 vintage Fosgate P-100 pumping them. Had to rebuild
the Fosgate at one point too... replaced every component on the board.
Someone stole the Jeep around 1989 and ripped off my preamp before running
it into a wall but it still kicks..

It's been a really, really good horse and until the engine started idling
rough the other day, it was showing no signs of age as far as the engine
goes. The 2.5 was supposedly a Renault cast iron block so i wonder if the
tranny is Renault...

--
Skip


"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:400743A9.99766577@cox.net...
> I'm guessing you have a Borg-Warner T-4 which should look like
> this T-5 and all other BWs with the drain and fill plugs on the
> left/passenger side:
> http://www.rubicon4x4.com/catalog/po...e.php/pID/5926
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> m wrote:
> >
> > Ujoints done...
> >
> > Went to fill tranny with gear oil... owners manual shows the fill plug

on
> > the passenger side but I can't find it there and everyone I talk to says
> > it's on driver's side.
> >
> > Can't see anything real obvious on driver's side either.
> >
> > This is a 4 speed 2wd.




01-15-2004 09:50 PM

Re: Tranny fill plug location on 86 cherokee?
 
Thanks bro, but I must have an oddball... I'll shoot a picture of it and put
it up tomorrow.

This has what looks like it could be a plug on the top at a slight angle
near the shifter stick entry... this big (plug) has a big hex receptacle in
it... looks to be maybe about a half-inch hex receptacle. There are also a
few torx screws on the driver side that could be plugs, but no trivial oil
seepage like you usually see on a fill or drain plug. These are bone dry.
The big (plug) on top does show some oil residue and there's a little oil
residue on the cover where the shifter enters the tranny. There's also what
might be a drain plug on the very bottom of the tranny. It's a big hex head
thing- maybe a 3/4" hex- but not a socket- more like a bolt. The rear of the
tranny is conical, with a "collar" about 3-4 inches in diameter where the
driveshaft yoke enters the tranny... the collar is maybe 1.5 inches deep and
kinda "shields" the shaft that enters the tranny and the tranny itself is
pretty small compared to the one in my camaro when I had it.

I bought this Jeeper new in '86. It was priced at $8997 iirc and I talked
them down some. It was a "price leader" so they could run an ad in the paper
at $8997. It came with no rear seat or A/C lol. I bought a butcherblock
formica countertop and jigsawed it to fit the top where the seat would be. I
have 2 6x9 Pioneer dual cones in that countertop and they sound pretty dang
good with the old 1978-80 vintage Fosgate P-100 pumping them. Had to rebuild
the Fosgate at one point too... replaced every component on the board.
Someone stole the Jeep around 1989 and ripped off my preamp before running
it into a wall but it still kicks..

It's been a really, really good horse and until the engine started idling
rough the other day, it was showing no signs of age as far as the engine
goes. The 2.5 was supposedly a Renault cast iron block so i wonder if the
tranny is Renault...

--
Skip


"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:400743A9.99766577@cox.net...
> I'm guessing you have a Borg-Warner T-4 which should look like
> this T-5 and all other BWs with the drain and fill plugs on the
> left/passenger side:
> http://www.rubicon4x4.com/catalog/po...e.php/pID/5926
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> m wrote:
> >
> > Ujoints done...
> >
> > Went to fill tranny with gear oil... owners manual shows the fill plug

on
> > the passenger side but I can't find it there and everyone I talk to says
> > it's on driver's side.
> >
> > Can't see anything real obvious on driver's side either.
> >
> > This is a 4 speed 2wd.




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-15-2004 11:17 PM

Re: Tranny fill plug location on 86 cherokee?
 
I think the only Renault engine was diesel. You may have the
Peugeot BA 10/5 Transmission:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ba10.html that may have the fill
plug on the left side. (I meant right side in the earlier Borg-Warner
guess.) Or the Asian AX-5:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ax5.html
http://www.----------.com/ax5transfill.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

m wrote:
>
> Thanks bro, but I must have an oddball... I'll shoot a picture of it and put
> it up tomorrow.
>
> This has what looks like it could be a plug on the top at a slight angle
> near the shifter stick entry... this big (plug) has a big hex receptacle in
> it... looks to be maybe about a half-inch hex receptacle. There are also a
> few torx screws on the driver side that could be plugs, but no trivial oil
> seepage like you usually see on a fill or drain plug. These are bone dry.
> The big (plug) on top does show some oil residue and there's a little oil
> residue on the cover where the shifter enters the tranny. There's also what
> might be a drain plug on the very bottom of the tranny. It's a big hex head
> thing- maybe a 3/4" hex- but not a socket- more like a bolt. The rear of the
> tranny is conical, with a "collar" about 3-4 inches in diameter where the
> driveshaft yoke enters the tranny... the collar is maybe 1.5 inches deep and
> kinda "shields" the shaft that enters the tranny and the tranny itself is
> pretty small compared to the one in my camaro when I had it.
>
> I bought this Jeeper new in '86. It was priced at $8997 iirc and I talked
> them down some. It was a "price leader" so they could run an ad in the paper
> at $8997. It came with no rear seat or A/C lol. I bought a butcherblock
> formica countertop and jigsawed it to fit the top where the seat would be. I
> have 2 6x9 Pioneer dual cones in that countertop and they sound pretty dang
> good with the old 1978-80 vintage Fosgate P-100 pumping them. Had to rebuild
> the Fosgate at one point too... replaced every component on the board.
> Someone stole the Jeep around 1989 and ripped off my preamp before running
> it into a wall but it still kicks..
>
> It's been a really, really good horse and until the engine started idling
> rough the other day, it was showing no signs of age as far as the engine
> goes. The 2.5 was supposedly a Renault cast iron block so i wonder if the
> tranny is Renault...
>
> --
> Skip
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:400743A9.99766577@cox.net...
> > I'm guessing you have a Borg-Warner T-4 which should look like
> > this T-5 and all other BWs with the drain and fill plugs on the
> > left/passenger side:
> > http://www.rubicon4x4.com/catalog/po...e.php/pID/5926
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > m wrote:
> > >
> > > Ujoints done...
> > >
> > > Went to fill tranny with gear oil... owners manual shows the fill plug

> on
> > > the passenger side but I can't find it there and everyone I talk to says
> > > it's on driver's side.
> > >
> > > Can't see anything real obvious on driver's side either.
> > >
> > > This is a 4 speed 2wd.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-15-2004 11:17 PM

Re: Tranny fill plug location on 86 cherokee?
 
I think the only Renault engine was diesel. You may have the
Peugeot BA 10/5 Transmission:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ba10.html that may have the fill
plug on the left side. (I meant right side in the earlier Borg-Warner
guess.) Or the Asian AX-5:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ax5.html
http://www.----------.com/ax5transfill.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

m wrote:
>
> Thanks bro, but I must have an oddball... I'll shoot a picture of it and put
> it up tomorrow.
>
> This has what looks like it could be a plug on the top at a slight angle
> near the shifter stick entry... this big (plug) has a big hex receptacle in
> it... looks to be maybe about a half-inch hex receptacle. There are also a
> few torx screws on the driver side that could be plugs, but no trivial oil
> seepage like you usually see on a fill or drain plug. These are bone dry.
> The big (plug) on top does show some oil residue and there's a little oil
> residue on the cover where the shifter enters the tranny. There's also what
> might be a drain plug on the very bottom of the tranny. It's a big hex head
> thing- maybe a 3/4" hex- but not a socket- more like a bolt. The rear of the
> tranny is conical, with a "collar" about 3-4 inches in diameter where the
> driveshaft yoke enters the tranny... the collar is maybe 1.5 inches deep and
> kinda "shields" the shaft that enters the tranny and the tranny itself is
> pretty small compared to the one in my camaro when I had it.
>
> I bought this Jeeper new in '86. It was priced at $8997 iirc and I talked
> them down some. It was a "price leader" so they could run an ad in the paper
> at $8997. It came with no rear seat or A/C lol. I bought a butcherblock
> formica countertop and jigsawed it to fit the top where the seat would be. I
> have 2 6x9 Pioneer dual cones in that countertop and they sound pretty dang
> good with the old 1978-80 vintage Fosgate P-100 pumping them. Had to rebuild
> the Fosgate at one point too... replaced every component on the board.
> Someone stole the Jeep around 1989 and ripped off my preamp before running
> it into a wall but it still kicks..
>
> It's been a really, really good horse and until the engine started idling
> rough the other day, it was showing no signs of age as far as the engine
> goes. The 2.5 was supposedly a Renault cast iron block so i wonder if the
> tranny is Renault...
>
> --
> Skip
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:400743A9.99766577@cox.net...
> > I'm guessing you have a Borg-Warner T-4 which should look like
> > this T-5 and all other BWs with the drain and fill plugs on the
> > left/passenger side:
> > http://www.rubicon4x4.com/catalog/po...e.php/pID/5926
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > m wrote:
> > >
> > > Ujoints done...
> > >
> > > Went to fill tranny with gear oil... owners manual shows the fill plug

> on
> > > the passenger side but I can't find it there and everyone I talk to says
> > > it's on driver's side.
> > >
> > > Can't see anything real obvious on driver's side either.
> > >
> > > This is a 4 speed 2wd.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-15-2004 11:17 PM

Re: Tranny fill plug location on 86 cherokee?
 
I think the only Renault engine was diesel. You may have the
Peugeot BA 10/5 Transmission:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ba10.html that may have the fill
plug on the left side. (I meant right side in the earlier Borg-Warner
guess.) Or the Asian AX-5:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ax5.html
http://www.----------.com/ax5transfill.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

m wrote:
>
> Thanks bro, but I must have an oddball... I'll shoot a picture of it and put
> it up tomorrow.
>
> This has what looks like it could be a plug on the top at a slight angle
> near the shifter stick entry... this big (plug) has a big hex receptacle in
> it... looks to be maybe about a half-inch hex receptacle. There are also a
> few torx screws on the driver side that could be plugs, but no trivial oil
> seepage like you usually see on a fill or drain plug. These are bone dry.
> The big (plug) on top does show some oil residue and there's a little oil
> residue on the cover where the shifter enters the tranny. There's also what
> might be a drain plug on the very bottom of the tranny. It's a big hex head
> thing- maybe a 3/4" hex- but not a socket- more like a bolt. The rear of the
> tranny is conical, with a "collar" about 3-4 inches in diameter where the
> driveshaft yoke enters the tranny... the collar is maybe 1.5 inches deep and
> kinda "shields" the shaft that enters the tranny and the tranny itself is
> pretty small compared to the one in my camaro when I had it.
>
> I bought this Jeeper new in '86. It was priced at $8997 iirc and I talked
> them down some. It was a "price leader" so they could run an ad in the paper
> at $8997. It came with no rear seat or A/C lol. I bought a butcherblock
> formica countertop and jigsawed it to fit the top where the seat would be. I
> have 2 6x9 Pioneer dual cones in that countertop and they sound pretty dang
> good with the old 1978-80 vintage Fosgate P-100 pumping them. Had to rebuild
> the Fosgate at one point too... replaced every component on the board.
> Someone stole the Jeep around 1989 and ripped off my preamp before running
> it into a wall but it still kicks..
>
> It's been a really, really good horse and until the engine started idling
> rough the other day, it was showing no signs of age as far as the engine
> goes. The 2.5 was supposedly a Renault cast iron block so i wonder if the
> tranny is Renault...
>
> --
> Skip
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:400743A9.99766577@cox.net...
> > I'm guessing you have a Borg-Warner T-4 which should look like
> > this T-5 and all other BWs with the drain and fill plugs on the
> > left/passenger side:
> > http://www.rubicon4x4.com/catalog/po...e.php/pID/5926
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > m wrote:
> > >
> > > Ujoints done...
> > >
> > > Went to fill tranny with gear oil... owners manual shows the fill plug

> on
> > > the passenger side but I can't find it there and everyone I talk to says
> > > it's on driver's side.
> > >
> > > Can't see anything real obvious on driver's side either.
> > >
> > > This is a 4 speed 2wd.


01-16-2004 04:46 AM

Re: Tranny fill plug location on 86 cherokee?
 
Maybe getting close...

The stick on mine looks a *whole lot* like this one:

http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ax15s.jpg
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ax15.html

With the wider part near the tranny.

But mine has an external slave and the article mentions that they moved it
outside in 1989 on the 4.0... mine's 1986 2.5.

I'm thinking it's an Aisin of some kind now.
Maybe an AX-4?

Heh i googled all over the place. Hard to find this bugger.

--
Skip


"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:400765F7.570D2AE@cox.net...
> I think the only Renault engine was diesel. You may have the
> Peugeot BA 10/5 Transmission:
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ba10.html that may have the fill
> plug on the left side. (I meant right side in the earlier Borg-Warner
> guess.) Or the Asian AX-5:
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ax5.html
> http://www.----------.com/ax5transfill.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> m wrote:
> >
> > Thanks bro, but I must have an oddball... I'll shoot a picture of it and

put
> > it up tomorrow.
> >
> > This has what looks like it could be a plug on the top at a slight angle
> > near the shifter stick entry... this big (plug) has a big hex receptacle

in
> > it... looks to be maybe about a half-inch hex receptacle. There are also

a
> > few torx screws on the driver side that could be plugs, but no trivial

oil
> > seepage like you usually see on a fill or drain plug. These are bone

dry.
> > The big (plug) on top does show some oil residue and there's a little

oil
> > residue on the cover where the shifter enters the tranny. There's also

what
> > might be a drain plug on the very bottom of the tranny. It's a big hex

head
> > thing- maybe a 3/4" hex- but not a socket- more like a bolt. The rear of

the
> > tranny is conical, with a "collar" about 3-4 inches in diameter where

the
> > driveshaft yoke enters the tranny... the collar is maybe 1.5 inches deep

and
> > kinda "shields" the shaft that enters the tranny and the tranny itself

is
> > pretty small compared to the one in my camaro when I had it.
> >
> > I bought this Jeeper new in '86. It was priced at $8997 iirc and I

talked
> > them down some. It was a "price leader" so they could run an ad in the

paper
> > at $8997. It came with no rear seat or A/C lol. I bought a butcherblock
> > formica countertop and jigsawed it to fit the top where the seat would

be. I
> > have 2 6x9 Pioneer dual cones in that countertop and they sound pretty

dang
> > good with the old 1978-80 vintage Fosgate P-100 pumping them. Had to

rebuild
> > the Fosgate at one point too... replaced every component on the board.
> > Someone stole the Jeep around 1989 and ripped off my preamp before

running
> > it into a wall but it still kicks..
> >
> > It's been a really, really good horse and until the engine started

idling
> > rough the other day, it was showing no signs of age as far as the engine
> > goes. The 2.5 was supposedly a Renault cast iron block so i wonder if

the
> > tranny is Renault...
> >
> > --
> > Skip
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:400743A9.99766577@cox.net...
> > > I'm guessing you have a Borg-Warner T-4 which should look like
> > > this T-5 and all other BWs with the drain and fill plugs on the
> > > left/passenger side:
> > > http://www.rubicon4x4.com/catalog/po...e.php/pID/5926
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > m wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ujoints done...
> > > >
> > > > Went to fill tranny with gear oil... owners manual shows the fill

plug
> > on
> > > > the passenger side but I can't find it there and everyone I talk to

says
> > > > it's on driver's side.
> > > >
> > > > Can't see anything real obvious on driver's side either.
> > > >
> > > > This is a 4 speed 2wd.




01-16-2004 04:46 AM

Re: Tranny fill plug location on 86 cherokee?
 
Maybe getting close...

The stick on mine looks a *whole lot* like this one:

http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ax15s.jpg
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ax15.html

With the wider part near the tranny.

But mine has an external slave and the article mentions that they moved it
outside in 1989 on the 4.0... mine's 1986 2.5.

I'm thinking it's an Aisin of some kind now.
Maybe an AX-4?

Heh i googled all over the place. Hard to find this bugger.

--
Skip


"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:400765F7.570D2AE@cox.net...
> I think the only Renault engine was diesel. You may have the
> Peugeot BA 10/5 Transmission:
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ba10.html that may have the fill
> plug on the left side. (I meant right side in the earlier Borg-Warner
> guess.) Or the Asian AX-5:
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ax5.html
> http://www.----------.com/ax5transfill.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> m wrote:
> >
> > Thanks bro, but I must have an oddball... I'll shoot a picture of it and

put
> > it up tomorrow.
> >
> > This has what looks like it could be a plug on the top at a slight angle
> > near the shifter stick entry... this big (plug) has a big hex receptacle

in
> > it... looks to be maybe about a half-inch hex receptacle. There are also

a
> > few torx screws on the driver side that could be plugs, but no trivial

oil
> > seepage like you usually see on a fill or drain plug. These are bone

dry.
> > The big (plug) on top does show some oil residue and there's a little

oil
> > residue on the cover where the shifter enters the tranny. There's also

what
> > might be a drain plug on the very bottom of the tranny. It's a big hex

head
> > thing- maybe a 3/4" hex- but not a socket- more like a bolt. The rear of

the
> > tranny is conical, with a "collar" about 3-4 inches in diameter where

the
> > driveshaft yoke enters the tranny... the collar is maybe 1.5 inches deep

and
> > kinda "shields" the shaft that enters the tranny and the tranny itself

is
> > pretty small compared to the one in my camaro when I had it.
> >
> > I bought this Jeeper new in '86. It was priced at $8997 iirc and I

talked
> > them down some. It was a "price leader" so they could run an ad in the

paper
> > at $8997. It came with no rear seat or A/C lol. I bought a butcherblock
> > formica countertop and jigsawed it to fit the top where the seat would

be. I
> > have 2 6x9 Pioneer dual cones in that countertop and they sound pretty

dang
> > good with the old 1978-80 vintage Fosgate P-100 pumping them. Had to

rebuild
> > the Fosgate at one point too... replaced every component on the board.
> > Someone stole the Jeep around 1989 and ripped off my preamp before

running
> > it into a wall but it still kicks..
> >
> > It's been a really, really good horse and until the engine started

idling
> > rough the other day, it was showing no signs of age as far as the engine
> > goes. The 2.5 was supposedly a Renault cast iron block so i wonder if

the
> > tranny is Renault...
> >
> > --
> > Skip
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:400743A9.99766577@cox.net...
> > > I'm guessing you have a Borg-Warner T-4 which should look like
> > > this T-5 and all other BWs with the drain and fill plugs on the
> > > left/passenger side:
> > > http://www.rubicon4x4.com/catalog/po...e.php/pID/5926
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > m wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ujoints done...
> > > >
> > > > Went to fill tranny with gear oil... owners manual shows the fill

plug
> > on
> > > > the passenger side but I can't find it there and everyone I talk to

says
> > > > it's on driver's side.
> > > >
> > > > Can't see anything real obvious on driver's side either.
> > > >
> > > > This is a 4 speed 2wd.




01-16-2004 04:46 AM

Re: Tranny fill plug location on 86 cherokee?
 
Maybe getting close...

The stick on mine looks a *whole lot* like this one:

http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ax15s.jpg
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ax15.html

With the wider part near the tranny.

But mine has an external slave and the article mentions that they moved it
outside in 1989 on the 4.0... mine's 1986 2.5.

I'm thinking it's an Aisin of some kind now.
Maybe an AX-4?

Heh i googled all over the place. Hard to find this bugger.

--
Skip


"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:400765F7.570D2AE@cox.net...
> I think the only Renault engine was diesel. You may have the
> Peugeot BA 10/5 Transmission:
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ba10.html that may have the fill
> plug on the left side. (I meant right side in the earlier Borg-Warner
> guess.) Or the Asian AX-5:
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ax5.html
> http://www.----------.com/ax5transfill.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> m wrote:
> >
> > Thanks bro, but I must have an oddball... I'll shoot a picture of it and

put
> > it up tomorrow.
> >
> > This has what looks like it could be a plug on the top at a slight angle
> > near the shifter stick entry... this big (plug) has a big hex receptacle

in
> > it... looks to be maybe about a half-inch hex receptacle. There are also

a
> > few torx screws on the driver side that could be plugs, but no trivial

oil
> > seepage like you usually see on a fill or drain plug. These are bone

dry.
> > The big (plug) on top does show some oil residue and there's a little

oil
> > residue on the cover where the shifter enters the tranny. There's also

what
> > might be a drain plug on the very bottom of the tranny. It's a big hex

head
> > thing- maybe a 3/4" hex- but not a socket- more like a bolt. The rear of

the
> > tranny is conical, with a "collar" about 3-4 inches in diameter where

the
> > driveshaft yoke enters the tranny... the collar is maybe 1.5 inches deep

and
> > kinda "shields" the shaft that enters the tranny and the tranny itself

is
> > pretty small compared to the one in my camaro when I had it.
> >
> > I bought this Jeeper new in '86. It was priced at $8997 iirc and I

talked
> > them down some. It was a "price leader" so they could run an ad in the

paper
> > at $8997. It came with no rear seat or A/C lol. I bought a butcherblock
> > formica countertop and jigsawed it to fit the top where the seat would

be. I
> > have 2 6x9 Pioneer dual cones in that countertop and they sound pretty

dang
> > good with the old 1978-80 vintage Fosgate P-100 pumping them. Had to

rebuild
> > the Fosgate at one point too... replaced every component on the board.
> > Someone stole the Jeep around 1989 and ripped off my preamp before

running
> > it into a wall but it still kicks..
> >
> > It's been a really, really good horse and until the engine started

idling
> > rough the other day, it was showing no signs of age as far as the engine
> > goes. The 2.5 was supposedly a Renault cast iron block so i wonder if

the
> > tranny is Renault...
> >
> > --
> > Skip
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:400743A9.99766577@cox.net...
> > > I'm guessing you have a Borg-Warner T-4 which should look like
> > > this T-5 and all other BWs with the drain and fill plugs on the
> > > left/passenger side:
> > > http://www.rubicon4x4.com/catalog/po...e.php/pID/5926
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > m wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ujoints done...
> > > >
> > > > Went to fill tranny with gear oil... owners manual shows the fill

plug
> > on
> > > > the passenger side but I can't find it there and everyone I talk to

says
> > > > it's on driver's side.
> > > >
> > > > Can't see anything real obvious on driver's side either.
> > > >
> > > > This is a 4 speed 2wd.




Greg 01-16-2004 09:04 AM

Re: Tranny fill plug location on 86 cherokee?
 
Try looking here to find your tranny
http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge...on_gateway.htm if it does
turn out to be the AX 15 let me know as mine is sitting on garage floor
right now so I think I could find the fill plug for you, take a pic if you
want.

<m> wrote in message news:bu8btd01qt6@enews4.newsguy.com...
> Maybe getting close...
>
> The stick on mine looks a *whole lot* like this one:
>
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ax15s.jpg
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ax15.html
>
> With the wider part near the tranny.
>
> But mine has an external slave and the article mentions that they moved it
> outside in 1989 on the 4.0... mine's 1986 2.5.
>
> I'm thinking it's an Aisin of some kind now.
> Maybe an AX-4?
>
> Heh i googled all over the place. Hard to find this bugger.
>
> --
> Skip
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:400765F7.570D2AE@cox.net...
> > I think the only Renault engine was diesel. You may have the
> > Peugeot BA 10/5 Transmission:
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ba10.html that may have the fill
> > plug on the left side. (I meant right side in the earlier Borg-Warner
> > guess.) Or the Asian AX-5:
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ax5.html
> > http://www.----------.com/ax5transfill.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:--------------------
> >
> > m wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks bro, but I must have an oddball... I'll shoot a picture of it

and
> put
> > > it up tomorrow.
> > >
> > > This has what looks like it could be a plug on the top at a slight

angle
> > > near the shifter stick entry... this big (plug) has a big hex

receptacle
> in
> > > it... looks to be maybe about a half-inch hex receptacle. There are

also
> a
> > > few torx screws on the driver side that could be plugs, but no trivial

> oil
> > > seepage like you usually see on a fill or drain plug. These are bone

> dry.
> > > The big (plug) on top does show some oil residue and there's a little

> oil
> > > residue on the cover where the shifter enters the tranny. There's also

> what
> > > might be a drain plug on the very bottom of the tranny. It's a big hex

> head
> > > thing- maybe a 3/4" hex- but not a socket- more like a bolt. The rear

of
> the
> > > tranny is conical, with a "collar" about 3-4 inches in diameter where

> the
> > > driveshaft yoke enters the tranny... the collar is maybe 1.5 inches

deep
> and
> > > kinda "shields" the shaft that enters the tranny and the tranny itself

> is
> > > pretty small compared to the one in my camaro when I had it.
> > >
> > > I bought this Jeeper new in '86. It was priced at $8997 iirc and I

> talked
> > > them down some. It was a "price leader" so they could run an ad in the

> paper
> > > at $8997. It came with no rear seat or A/C lol. I bought a

butcherblock
> > > formica countertop and jigsawed it to fit the top where the seat would

> be. I
> > > have 2 6x9 Pioneer dual cones in that countertop and they sound pretty

> dang
> > > good with the old 1978-80 vintage Fosgate P-100 pumping them. Had to

> rebuild
> > > the Fosgate at one point too... replaced every component on the board.
> > > Someone stole the Jeep around 1989 and ripped off my preamp before

> running
> > > it into a wall but it still kicks..
> > >
> > > It's been a really, really good horse and until the engine started

> idling
> > > rough the other day, it was showing no signs of age as far as the

engine
> > > goes. The 2.5 was supposedly a Renault cast iron block so i wonder if

> the
> > > tranny is Renault...
> > >
> > > --
> > > Skip
> > >
> > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> > > news:400743A9.99766577@cox.net...
> > > > I'm guessing you have a Borg-Warner T-4 which should look like
> > > > this T-5 and all other BWs with the drain and fill plugs on the
> > > > left/passenger side:
> > > > http://www.rubicon4x4.com/catalog/po...e.php/pID/5926
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >
> > > > m wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Ujoints done...
> > > > >
> > > > > Went to fill tranny with gear oil... owners manual shows the fill

> plug
> > > on
> > > > > the passenger side but I can't find it there and everyone I talk

to
> says
> > > > > it's on driver's side.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can't see anything real obvious on driver's side either.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is a 4 speed 2wd.

>
>




Greg 01-16-2004 09:04 AM

Re: Tranny fill plug location on 86 cherokee?
 
Try looking here to find your tranny
http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge...on_gateway.htm if it does
turn out to be the AX 15 let me know as mine is sitting on garage floor
right now so I think I could find the fill plug for you, take a pic if you
want.

<m> wrote in message news:bu8btd01qt6@enews4.newsguy.com...
> Maybe getting close...
>
> The stick on mine looks a *whole lot* like this one:
>
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ax15s.jpg
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ax15.html
>
> With the wider part near the tranny.
>
> But mine has an external slave and the article mentions that they moved it
> outside in 1989 on the 4.0... mine's 1986 2.5.
>
> I'm thinking it's an Aisin of some kind now.
> Maybe an AX-4?
>
> Heh i googled all over the place. Hard to find this bugger.
>
> --
> Skip
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:400765F7.570D2AE@cox.net...
> > I think the only Renault engine was diesel. You may have the
> > Peugeot BA 10/5 Transmission:
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ba10.html that may have the fill
> > plug on the left side. (I meant right side in the earlier Borg-Warner
> > guess.) Or the Asian AX-5:
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ax5.html
> > http://www.----------.com/ax5transfill.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:--------------------
> >
> > m wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks bro, but I must have an oddball... I'll shoot a picture of it

and
> put
> > > it up tomorrow.
> > >
> > > This has what looks like it could be a plug on the top at a slight

angle
> > > near the shifter stick entry... this big (plug) has a big hex

receptacle
> in
> > > it... looks to be maybe about a half-inch hex receptacle. There are

also
> a
> > > few torx screws on the driver side that could be plugs, but no trivial

> oil
> > > seepage like you usually see on a fill or drain plug. These are bone

> dry.
> > > The big (plug) on top does show some oil residue and there's a little

> oil
> > > residue on the cover where the shifter enters the tranny. There's also

> what
> > > might be a drain plug on the very bottom of the tranny. It's a big hex

> head
> > > thing- maybe a 3/4" hex- but not a socket- more like a bolt. The rear

of
> the
> > > tranny is conical, with a "collar" about 3-4 inches in diameter where

> the
> > > driveshaft yoke enters the tranny... the collar is maybe 1.5 inches

deep
> and
> > > kinda "shields" the shaft that enters the tranny and the tranny itself

> is
> > > pretty small compared to the one in my camaro when I had it.
> > >
> > > I bought this Jeeper new in '86. It was priced at $8997 iirc and I

> talked
> > > them down some. It was a "price leader" so they could run an ad in the

> paper
> > > at $8997. It came with no rear seat or A/C lol. I bought a

butcherblock
> > > formica countertop and jigsawed it to fit the top where the seat would

> be. I
> > > have 2 6x9 Pioneer dual cones in that countertop and they sound pretty

> dang
> > > good with the old 1978-80 vintage Fosgate P-100 pumping them. Had to

> rebuild
> > > the Fosgate at one point too... replaced every component on the board.
> > > Someone stole the Jeep around 1989 and ripped off my preamp before

> running
> > > it into a wall but it still kicks..
> > >
> > > It's been a really, really good horse and until the engine started

> idling
> > > rough the other day, it was showing no signs of age as far as the

engine
> > > goes. The 2.5 was supposedly a Renault cast iron block so i wonder if

> the
> > > tranny is Renault...
> > >
> > > --
> > > Skip
> > >
> > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> > > news:400743A9.99766577@cox.net...
> > > > I'm guessing you have a Borg-Warner T-4 which should look like
> > > > this T-5 and all other BWs with the drain and fill plugs on the
> > > > left/passenger side:
> > > > http://www.rubicon4x4.com/catalog/po...e.php/pID/5926
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >
> > > > m wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Ujoints done...
> > > > >
> > > > > Went to fill tranny with gear oil... owners manual shows the fill

> plug
> > > on
> > > > > the passenger side but I can't find it there and everyone I talk

to
> says
> > > > > it's on driver's side.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can't see anything real obvious on driver's side either.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is a 4 speed 2wd.

>
>




Greg 01-16-2004 09:04 AM

Re: Tranny fill plug location on 86 cherokee?
 
Try looking here to find your tranny
http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge...on_gateway.htm if it does
turn out to be the AX 15 let me know as mine is sitting on garage floor
right now so I think I could find the fill plug for you, take a pic if you
want.

<m> wrote in message news:bu8btd01qt6@enews4.newsguy.com...
> Maybe getting close...
>
> The stick on mine looks a *whole lot* like this one:
>
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ax15s.jpg
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ax15.html
>
> With the wider part near the tranny.
>
> But mine has an external slave and the article mentions that they moved it
> outside in 1989 on the 4.0... mine's 1986 2.5.
>
> I'm thinking it's an Aisin of some kind now.
> Maybe an AX-4?
>
> Heh i googled all over the place. Hard to find this bugger.
>
> --
> Skip
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:400765F7.570D2AE@cox.net...
> > I think the only Renault engine was diesel. You may have the
> > Peugeot BA 10/5 Transmission:
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ba10.html that may have the fill
> > plug on the left side. (I meant right side in the earlier Borg-Warner
> > guess.) Or the Asian AX-5:
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ax5.html
> > http://www.----------.com/ax5transfill.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:--------------------
> >
> > m wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks bro, but I must have an oddball... I'll shoot a picture of it

and
> put
> > > it up tomorrow.
> > >
> > > This has what looks like it could be a plug on the top at a slight

angle
> > > near the shifter stick entry... this big (plug) has a big hex

receptacle
> in
> > > it... looks to be maybe about a half-inch hex receptacle. There are

also
> a
> > > few torx screws on the driver side that could be plugs, but no trivial

> oil
> > > seepage like you usually see on a fill or drain plug. These are bone

> dry.
> > > The big (plug) on top does show some oil residue and there's a little

> oil
> > > residue on the cover where the shifter enters the tranny. There's also

> what
> > > might be a drain plug on the very bottom of the tranny. It's a big hex

> head
> > > thing- maybe a 3/4" hex- but not a socket- more like a bolt. The rear

of
> the
> > > tranny is conical, with a "collar" about 3-4 inches in diameter where

> the
> > > driveshaft yoke enters the tranny... the collar is maybe 1.5 inches

deep
> and
> > > kinda "shields" the shaft that enters the tranny and the tranny itself

> is
> > > pretty small compared to the one in my camaro when I had it.
> > >
> > > I bought this Jeeper new in '86. It was priced at $8997 iirc and I

> talked
> > > them down some. It was a "price leader" so they could run an ad in the

> paper
> > > at $8997. It came with no rear seat or A/C lol. I bought a

butcherblock
> > > formica countertop and jigsawed it to fit the top where the seat would

> be. I
> > > have 2 6x9 Pioneer dual cones in that countertop and they sound pretty

> dang
> > > good with the old 1978-80 vintage Fosgate P-100 pumping them. Had to

> rebuild
> > > the Fosgate at one point too... replaced every component on the board.
> > > Someone stole the Jeep around 1989 and ripped off my preamp before

> running
> > > it into a wall but it still kicks..
> > >
> > > It's been a really, really good horse and until the engine started

> idling
> > > rough the other day, it was showing no signs of age as far as the

engine
> > > goes. The 2.5 was supposedly a Renault cast iron block so i wonder if

> the
> > > tranny is Renault...
> > >
> > > --
> > > Skip
> > >
> > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> > > news:400743A9.99766577@cox.net...
> > > > I'm guessing you have a Borg-Warner T-4 which should look like
> > > > this T-5 and all other BWs with the drain and fill plugs on the
> > > > left/passenger side:
> > > > http://www.rubicon4x4.com/catalog/po...e.php/pID/5926
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >
> > > > m wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Ujoints done...
> > > > >
> > > > > Went to fill tranny with gear oil... owners manual shows the fill

> plug
> > > on
> > > > > the passenger side but I can't find it there and everyone I talk

to
> says
> > > > > it's on driver's side.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can't see anything real obvious on driver's side either.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is a 4 speed 2wd.

>
>




01-16-2004 09:43 AM

Re: Tranny fill plug location on 86 cherokee?
 
Is the ax15 a 5 speed?
Mine's 4 speed.
Here I posted some pics at:
http://s90248361.onlinehome.us/misc/tranny.htm

--
Skip


"Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7cSNb.128144$ts4.88891@pd7tw3no...
> Try looking here to find your tranny
> http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge...on_gateway.htm if it does
> turn out to be the AX 15 let me know as mine is sitting on garage floor
> right now so I think I could find the fill plug for you, take a pic if you
> want.
>
> <m> wrote in message news:bu8btd01qt6@enews4.newsguy.com...
> > Maybe getting close...
> >
> > The stick on mine looks a *whole lot* like this one:
> >
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ax15s.jpg
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ax15.html
> >
> > With the wider part near the tranny.
> >
> > But mine has an external slave and the article mentions that they moved

it
> > outside in 1989 on the 4.0... mine's 1986 2.5.
> >
> > I'm thinking it's an Aisin of some kind now.
> > Maybe an AX-4?
> >
> > Heh i googled all over the place. Hard to find this bugger.
> >
> > --
> > Skip
> >
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:400765F7.570D2AE@cox.net...
> > > I think the only Renault engine was diesel. You may have the
> > > Peugeot BA 10/5 Transmission:
> > > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ba10.html that may have the

fill
> > > plug on the left side. (I meant right side in the earlier Borg-Warner
> > > guess.) Or the Asian AX-5:
> > > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ax5.html
> > > http://www.----------.com/ax5transfill.jpg
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:--------------------
> > >
> > > m wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks bro, but I must have an oddball... I'll shoot a picture of it

> and
> > put
> > > > it up tomorrow.
> > > >
> > > > This has what looks like it could be a plug on the top at a slight

> angle
> > > > near the shifter stick entry... this big (plug) has a big hex

> receptacle
> > in
> > > > it... looks to be maybe about a half-inch hex receptacle. There are

> also
> > a
> > > > few torx screws on the driver side that could be plugs, but no

trivial
> > oil
> > > > seepage like you usually see on a fill or drain plug. These are bone

> > dry.
> > > > The big (plug) on top does show some oil residue and there's a

little
> > oil
> > > > residue on the cover where the shifter enters the tranny. There's

also
> > what
> > > > might be a drain plug on the very bottom of the tranny. It's a big

hex
> > head
> > > > thing- maybe a 3/4" hex- but not a socket- more like a bolt. The

rear
> of
> > the
> > > > tranny is conical, with a "collar" about 3-4 inches in diameter

where
> > the
> > > > driveshaft yoke enters the tranny... the collar is maybe 1.5 inches

> deep
> > and
> > > > kinda "shields" the shaft that enters the tranny and the tranny

itself
> > is
> > > > pretty small compared to the one in my camaro when I had it.
> > > >
> > > > I bought this Jeeper new in '86. It was priced at $8997 iirc and I

> > talked
> > > > them down some. It was a "price leader" so they could run an ad in

the
> > paper
> > > > at $8997. It came with no rear seat or A/C lol. I bought a

> butcherblock
> > > > formica countertop and jigsawed it to fit the top where the seat

would
> > be. I
> > > > have 2 6x9 Pioneer dual cones in that countertop and they sound

pretty
> > dang
> > > > good with the old 1978-80 vintage Fosgate P-100 pumping them. Had to

> > rebuild
> > > > the Fosgate at one point too... replaced every component on the

board.
> > > > Someone stole the Jeep around 1989 and ripped off my preamp before

> > running
> > > > it into a wall but it still kicks..
> > > >
> > > > It's been a really, really good horse and until the engine started

> > idling
> > > > rough the other day, it was showing no signs of age as far as the

> engine
> > > > goes. The 2.5 was supposedly a Renault cast iron block so i wonder

if
> > the
> > > > tranny is Renault...
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Skip
> > > >
> > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:400743A9.99766577@cox.net...
> > > > > I'm guessing you have a Borg-Warner T-4 which should look

like
> > > > > this T-5 and all other BWs with the drain and fill plugs on the
> > > > > left/passenger side:
> > > > > http://www.rubicon4x4.com/catalog/po...e.php/pID/5926
> > > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > > >
> > > > > m wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ujoints done...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Went to fill tranny with gear oil... owners manual shows the

fill
> > plug
> > > > on
> > > > > > the passenger side but I can't find it there and everyone I talk

> to
> > says
> > > > > > it's on driver's side.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can't see anything real obvious on driver's side either.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is a 4 speed 2wd.

> >
> >

>
>




01-16-2004 09:43 AM

Re: Tranny fill plug location on 86 cherokee?
 
Is the ax15 a 5 speed?
Mine's 4 speed.
Here I posted some pics at:
http://s90248361.onlinehome.us/misc/tranny.htm

--
Skip


"Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7cSNb.128144$ts4.88891@pd7tw3no...
> Try looking here to find your tranny
> http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge...on_gateway.htm if it does
> turn out to be the AX 15 let me know as mine is sitting on garage floor
> right now so I think I could find the fill plug for you, take a pic if you
> want.
>
> <m> wrote in message news:bu8btd01qt6@enews4.newsguy.com...
> > Maybe getting close...
> >
> > The stick on mine looks a *whole lot* like this one:
> >
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ax15s.jpg
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ax15.html
> >
> > With the wider part near the tranny.
> >
> > But mine has an external slave and the article mentions that they moved

it
> > outside in 1989 on the 4.0... mine's 1986 2.5.
> >
> > I'm thinking it's an Aisin of some kind now.
> > Maybe an AX-4?
> >
> > Heh i googled all over the place. Hard to find this bugger.
> >
> > --
> > Skip
> >
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:400765F7.570D2AE@cox.net...
> > > I think the only Renault engine was diesel. You may have the
> > > Peugeot BA 10/5 Transmission:
> > > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ba10.html that may have the

fill
> > > plug on the left side. (I meant right side in the earlier Borg-Warner
> > > guess.) Or the Asian AX-5:
> > > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ax5.html
> > > http://www.----------.com/ax5transfill.jpg
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:--------------------
> > >
> > > m wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks bro, but I must have an oddball... I'll shoot a picture of it

> and
> > put
> > > > it up tomorrow.
> > > >
> > > > This has what looks like it could be a plug on the top at a slight

> angle
> > > > near the shifter stick entry... this big (plug) has a big hex

> receptacle
> > in
> > > > it... looks to be maybe about a half-inch hex receptacle. There are

> also
> > a
> > > > few torx screws on the driver side that could be plugs, but no

trivial
> > oil
> > > > seepage like you usually see on a fill or drain plug. These are bone

> > dry.
> > > > The big (plug) on top does show some oil residue and there's a

little
> > oil
> > > > residue on the cover where the shifter enters the tranny. There's

also
> > what
> > > > might be a drain plug on the very bottom of the tranny. It's a big

hex
> > head
> > > > thing- maybe a 3/4" hex- but not a socket- more like a bolt. The

rear
> of
> > the
> > > > tranny is conical, with a "collar" about 3-4 inches in diameter

where
> > the
> > > > driveshaft yoke enters the tranny... the collar is maybe 1.5 inches

> deep
> > and
> > > > kinda "shields" the shaft that enters the tranny and the tranny

itself
> > is
> > > > pretty small compared to the one in my camaro when I had it.
> > > >
> > > > I bought this Jeeper new in '86. It was priced at $8997 iirc and I

> > talked
> > > > them down some. It was a "price leader" so they could run an ad in

the
> > paper
> > > > at $8997. It came with no rear seat or A/C lol. I bought a

> butcherblock
> > > > formica countertop and jigsawed it to fit the top where the seat

would
> > be. I
> > > > have 2 6x9 Pioneer dual cones in that countertop and they sound

pretty
> > dang
> > > > good with the old 1978-80 vintage Fosgate P-100 pumping them. Had to

> > rebuild
> > > > the Fosgate at one point too... replaced every component on the

board.
> > > > Someone stole the Jeep around 1989 and ripped off my preamp before

> > running
> > > > it into a wall but it still kicks..
> > > >
> > > > It's been a really, really good horse and until the engine started

> > idling
> > > > rough the other day, it was showing no signs of age as far as the

> engine
> > > > goes. The 2.5 was supposedly a Renault cast iron block so i wonder

if
> > the
> > > > tranny is Renault...
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Skip
> > > >
> > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:400743A9.99766577@cox.net...
> > > > > I'm guessing you have a Borg-Warner T-4 which should look

like
> > > > > this T-5 and all other BWs with the drain and fill plugs on the
> > > > > left/passenger side:
> > > > > http://www.rubicon4x4.com/catalog/po...e.php/pID/5926
> > > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > > >
> > > > > m wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ujoints done...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Went to fill tranny with gear oil... owners manual shows the

fill
> > plug
> > > > on
> > > > > > the passenger side but I can't find it there and everyone I talk

> to
> > says
> > > > > > it's on driver's side.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can't see anything real obvious on driver's side either.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is a 4 speed 2wd.

> >
> >

>
>




01-16-2004 09:43 AM

Re: Tranny fill plug location on 86 cherokee?
 
Is the ax15 a 5 speed?
Mine's 4 speed.
Here I posted some pics at:
http://s90248361.onlinehome.us/misc/tranny.htm

--
Skip


"Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7cSNb.128144$ts4.88891@pd7tw3no...
> Try looking here to find your tranny
> http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge...on_gateway.htm if it does
> turn out to be the AX 15 let me know as mine is sitting on garage floor
> right now so I think I could find the fill plug for you, take a pic if you
> want.
>
> <m> wrote in message news:bu8btd01qt6@enews4.newsguy.com...
> > Maybe getting close...
> >
> > The stick on mine looks a *whole lot* like this one:
> >
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ax15s.jpg
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ax15.html
> >
> > With the wider part near the tranny.
> >
> > But mine has an external slave and the article mentions that they moved

it
> > outside in 1989 on the 4.0... mine's 1986 2.5.
> >
> > I'm thinking it's an Aisin of some kind now.
> > Maybe an AX-4?
> >
> > Heh i googled all over the place. Hard to find this bugger.
> >
> > --
> > Skip
> >
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:400765F7.570D2AE@cox.net...
> > > I think the only Renault engine was diesel. You may have the
> > > Peugeot BA 10/5 Transmission:
> > > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ba10.html that may have the

fill
> > > plug on the left side. (I meant right side in the earlier Borg-Warner
> > > guess.) Or the Asian AX-5:
> > > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ax5.html
> > > http://www.----------.com/ax5transfill.jpg
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:--------------------
> > >
> > > m wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks bro, but I must have an oddball... I'll shoot a picture of it

> and
> > put
> > > > it up tomorrow.
> > > >
> > > > This has what looks like it could be a plug on the top at a slight

> angle
> > > > near the shifter stick entry... this big (plug) has a big hex

> receptacle
> > in
> > > > it... looks to be maybe about a half-inch hex receptacle. There are

> also
> > a
> > > > few torx screws on the driver side that could be plugs, but no

trivial
> > oil
> > > > seepage like you usually see on a fill or drain plug. These are bone

> > dry.
> > > > The big (plug) on top does show some oil residue and there's a

little
> > oil
> > > > residue on the cover where the shifter enters the tranny. There's

also
> > what
> > > > might be a drain plug on the very bottom of the tranny. It's a big

hex
> > head
> > > > thing- maybe a 3/4" hex- but not a socket- more like a bolt. The

rear
> of
> > the
> > > > tranny is conical, with a "collar" about 3-4 inches in diameter

where
> > the
> > > > driveshaft yoke enters the tranny... the collar is maybe 1.5 inches

> deep
> > and
> > > > kinda "shields" the shaft that enters the tranny and the tranny

itself
> > is
> > > > pretty small compared to the one in my camaro when I had it.
> > > >
> > > > I bought this Jeeper new in '86. It was priced at $8997 iirc and I

> > talked
> > > > them down some. It was a "price leader" so they could run an ad in

the
> > paper
> > > > at $8997. It came with no rear seat or A/C lol. I bought a

> butcherblock
> > > > formica countertop and jigsawed it to fit the top where the seat

would
> > be. I
> > > > have 2 6x9 Pioneer dual cones in that countertop and they sound

pretty
> > dang
> > > > good with the old 1978-80 vintage Fosgate P-100 pumping them. Had to

> > rebuild
> > > > the Fosgate at one point too... replaced every component on the

board.
> > > > Someone stole the Jeep around 1989 and ripped off my preamp before

> > running
> > > > it into a wall but it still kicks..
> > > >
> > > > It's been a really, really good horse and until the engine started

> > idling
> > > > rough the other day, it was showing no signs of age as far as the

> engine
> > > > goes. The 2.5 was supposedly a Renault cast iron block so i wonder

if
> > the
> > > > tranny is Renault...
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Skip
> > > >
> > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:400743A9.99766577@cox.net...
> > > > > I'm guessing you have a Borg-Warner T-4 which should look

like
> > > > > this T-5 and all other BWs with the drain and fill plugs on the
> > > > > left/passenger side:
> > > > > http://www.rubicon4x4.com/catalog/po...e.php/pID/5926
> > > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > > >
> > > > > m wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ujoints done...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Went to fill tranny with gear oil... owners manual shows the

fill
> > plug
> > > > on
> > > > > > the passenger side but I can't find it there and everyone I talk

> to
> > says
> > > > > > it's on driver's side.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can't see anything real obvious on driver's side either.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is a 4 speed 2wd.

> >
> >

>
>




01-16-2004 09:46 AM

Have you seen this tranny? Pics included... (was Tranny fill plug location on 86 cherokee?)
 
Anybody know what tranny this is?
I posted some pics - trying to find fill hole on this dude...

http://s90248361.onlinehome.us/misc/tranny.htm

It's a 1986 2wd, 4 speed, 2.5 liter fuel injection. (the throttle body
injector)

--
Skip


<m> wrote in message news:bu7bip02mns@enews4.newsguy.com...
> Ujoints done...
>
> Went to fill tranny with gear oil... owners manual shows the fill plug on
> the passenger side but I can't find it there and everyone I talk to says
> it's on driver's side.
>
> Can't see anything real obvious on driver's side either.
>
> This is a 4 speed 2wd.
>
>




01-16-2004 09:46 AM

Have you seen this tranny? Pics included... (was Tranny fill plug location on 86 cherokee?)
 
Anybody know what tranny this is?
I posted some pics - trying to find fill hole on this dude...

http://s90248361.onlinehome.us/misc/tranny.htm

It's a 1986 2wd, 4 speed, 2.5 liter fuel injection. (the throttle body
injector)

--
Skip


<m> wrote in message news:bu7bip02mns@enews4.newsguy.com...
> Ujoints done...
>
> Went to fill tranny with gear oil... owners manual shows the fill plug on
> the passenger side but I can't find it there and everyone I talk to says
> it's on driver's side.
>
> Can't see anything real obvious on driver's side either.
>
> This is a 4 speed 2wd.
>
>




01-16-2004 09:46 AM

Have you seen this tranny? Pics included... (was Tranny fill plug location on 86 cherokee?)
 
Anybody know what tranny this is?
I posted some pics - trying to find fill hole on this dude...

http://s90248361.onlinehome.us/misc/tranny.htm

It's a 1986 2wd, 4 speed, 2.5 liter fuel injection. (the throttle body
injector)

--
Skip


<m> wrote in message news:bu7bip02mns@enews4.newsguy.com...
> Ujoints done...
>
> Went to fill tranny with gear oil... owners manual shows the fill plug on
> the passenger side but I can't find it there and everyone I talk to says
> it's on driver's side.
>
> Can't see anything real obvious on driver's side either.
>
> This is a 4 speed 2wd.
>
>





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