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Trailer wiring for 2003 Jeep Liberty
I've instaled a hitch on my 2003 Liberty and was hoping to find a "plug
in" wiring kit/harness for trailer lights. However the only ones I've found run $60-$100. Is that really the price range? |
Re: Trailer wiring for 2003 Jeep Liberty
Fifty bucks at: http://www.accessconnect.com/trailerwiring.htm It's
not just a harness it's full of all kinds of electronics to make up for the Libby's goofy flasher setup. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Barry Bean wrote: > > I've instaled a hitch on my 2003 Liberty and was hoping to find a "plug > in" wiring kit/harness for trailer lights. However the only ones I've found > run $60-$100. Is that really the price range? |
Re: Trailer wiring for 2003 Jeep Liberty
Fifty bucks at: http://www.accessconnect.com/trailerwiring.htm It's
not just a harness it's full of all kinds of electronics to make up for the Libby's goofy flasher setup. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Barry Bean wrote: > > I've instaled a hitch on my 2003 Liberty and was hoping to find a "plug > in" wiring kit/harness for trailer lights. However the only ones I've found > run $60-$100. Is that really the price range? |
Re: Trailer wiring for 2003 Jeep Liberty
Fifty bucks at: http://www.accessconnect.com/trailerwiring.htm It's
not just a harness it's full of all kinds of electronics to make up for the Libby's goofy flasher setup. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Barry Bean wrote: > > I've instaled a hitch on my 2003 Liberty and was hoping to find a "plug > in" wiring kit/harness for trailer lights. However the only ones I've found > run $60-$100. Is that really the price range? |
Re: Trailer wiring for 2003 Jeep Liberty
Fifty bucks at: http://www.accessconnect.com/trailerwiring.htm It's
not just a harness it's full of all kinds of electronics to make up for the Libby's goofy flasher setup. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Barry Bean wrote: > > I've instaled a hitch on my 2003 Liberty and was hoping to find a "plug > in" wiring kit/harness for trailer lights. However the only ones I've found > run $60-$100. Is that really the price range? |
Re: Trailer wiring for 2003 Jeep Liberty
L.W.(?ill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote:
> Fifty bucks at: http://www.accessconnect.com/trailerwiring.htm It's > not just a harness it's full of all kinds of electronics to make up for > the Libby's goofy flasher setup. Hmmm, a "Hoppy" part number. Here's what it looks like -- just in case you're interested in why it costs so much: http://www.trailerwiring.com/cgi-bin...cgi?part=42475 You can also get a PDF of the installation instructions from the link, above. My guess is that some genius at Daimler put either the brake lights or the running lights in the same circuit with something "critical" -- hence step 13 of the above mentioned instructions: "Route the red, 12 gauge battery feed wire to the battery (Fig. 2 / G). Be sure to avoid the muffler, gas tank, tail pipe and drive train. Insert the power feed wire into the fuse assembly provided and crimp connection. Attach the fuse assembly ring terminal to the positive (+) battery terminal." It could also be that either the flasher or one of the lighting circuits was deemed to be "too small" for the additional electrical load of trailer lights. That would require some sort of isolator with the addition of a new 12V feed, directly from the battery. Of course I find all of this odd since Daimler touts the 5000lb towing capacity of the Liberty as one of its features. Either that or they simply want to sell you their $365 towing group when you purchase the vehicle... :) -John |
Re: Trailer wiring for 2003 Jeep Liberty
L.W.(?ill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote:
> Fifty bucks at: http://www.accessconnect.com/trailerwiring.htm It's > not just a harness it's full of all kinds of electronics to make up for > the Libby's goofy flasher setup. Hmmm, a "Hoppy" part number. Here's what it looks like -- just in case you're interested in why it costs so much: http://www.trailerwiring.com/cgi-bin...cgi?part=42475 You can also get a PDF of the installation instructions from the link, above. My guess is that some genius at Daimler put either the brake lights or the running lights in the same circuit with something "critical" -- hence step 13 of the above mentioned instructions: "Route the red, 12 gauge battery feed wire to the battery (Fig. 2 / G). Be sure to avoid the muffler, gas tank, tail pipe and drive train. Insert the power feed wire into the fuse assembly provided and crimp connection. Attach the fuse assembly ring terminal to the positive (+) battery terminal." It could also be that either the flasher or one of the lighting circuits was deemed to be "too small" for the additional electrical load of trailer lights. That would require some sort of isolator with the addition of a new 12V feed, directly from the battery. Of course I find all of this odd since Daimler touts the 5000lb towing capacity of the Liberty as one of its features. Either that or they simply want to sell you their $365 towing group when you purchase the vehicle... :) -John |
Re: Trailer wiring for 2003 Jeep Liberty
L.W.(?ill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote:
> Fifty bucks at: http://www.accessconnect.com/trailerwiring.htm It's > not just a harness it's full of all kinds of electronics to make up for > the Libby's goofy flasher setup. Hmmm, a "Hoppy" part number. Here's what it looks like -- just in case you're interested in why it costs so much: http://www.trailerwiring.com/cgi-bin...cgi?part=42475 You can also get a PDF of the installation instructions from the link, above. My guess is that some genius at Daimler put either the brake lights or the running lights in the same circuit with something "critical" -- hence step 13 of the above mentioned instructions: "Route the red, 12 gauge battery feed wire to the battery (Fig. 2 / G). Be sure to avoid the muffler, gas tank, tail pipe and drive train. Insert the power feed wire into the fuse assembly provided and crimp connection. Attach the fuse assembly ring terminal to the positive (+) battery terminal." It could also be that either the flasher or one of the lighting circuits was deemed to be "too small" for the additional electrical load of trailer lights. That would require some sort of isolator with the addition of a new 12V feed, directly from the battery. Of course I find all of this odd since Daimler touts the 5000lb towing capacity of the Liberty as one of its features. Either that or they simply want to sell you their $365 towing group when you purchase the vehicle... :) -John |
Re: Trailer wiring for 2003 Jeep Liberty
L.W.(?ill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote:
> Fifty bucks at: http://www.accessconnect.com/trailerwiring.htm It's > not just a harness it's full of all kinds of electronics to make up for > the Libby's goofy flasher setup. Hmmm, a "Hoppy" part number. Here's what it looks like -- just in case you're interested in why it costs so much: http://www.trailerwiring.com/cgi-bin...cgi?part=42475 You can also get a PDF of the installation instructions from the link, above. My guess is that some genius at Daimler put either the brake lights or the running lights in the same circuit with something "critical" -- hence step 13 of the above mentioned instructions: "Route the red, 12 gauge battery feed wire to the battery (Fig. 2 / G). Be sure to avoid the muffler, gas tank, tail pipe and drive train. Insert the power feed wire into the fuse assembly provided and crimp connection. Attach the fuse assembly ring terminal to the positive (+) battery terminal." It could also be that either the flasher or one of the lighting circuits was deemed to be "too small" for the additional electrical load of trailer lights. That would require some sort of isolator with the addition of a new 12V feed, directly from the battery. Of course I find all of this odd since Daimler touts the 5000lb towing capacity of the Liberty as one of its features. Either that or they simply want to sell you their $365 towing group when you purchase the vehicle... :) -John |
Re: Trailer wiring for 2003 Jeep Liberty
Hi John,
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