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Peter Pontbriand 11-14-2004 08:01 PM

Trail Diesel
 
Well, I finally went on a trail run with a diesel today, and I've got to say
that it was an overwhelming experience. My opinion now is that it is
definitely worse to be behind a diesel on the trail than a carbureted
gasoline-powered rig. I couldn't believe the billowing clouds of pitch-black
smoke that spewed from this diesel FJ40 that was with us. My subjective
opinion that unburned gas is a worse smell the diesel exhaust remains, but
with the sheer volume of exhaust that diesel put out it doesn't matter. Wow.
The owner said it was a normally aspirated 3.4 litre, and that it won't
"smoke" so much when he puts a turbo on it. I sure hope he's right, because
it's a beautiful and capable rig, but it sure is odouriferous!

/Peter



Ted Azito 11-16-2004 05:25 PM

Re: Trail Diesel
 
"Peter Pontbriand" <sprocket.who.hates.spam@storm.ca> wrote in message news:<cn8v4j$ffa$1@news.storm.ca>...
> Well, I finally went on a trail run with a diesel today, and I've got to say
> that it was an overwhelming experience. My opinion now is that it is
> definitely worse to be behind a diesel on the trail than a carbureted
> gasoline-powered rig. I couldn't believe the billowing clouds of pitch-black
> smoke that spewed from this diesel FJ40 that was with us. My subjective
> opinion that unburned gas is a worse smell the diesel exhaust remains, but
> with the sheer volume of exhaust that diesel put out it doesn't matter. Wow.
> The owner said it was a normally aspirated 3.4 litre, and that it won't
> "smoke" so much when he puts a turbo on it. I sure hope he's right, because
> it's a beautiful and capable rig, but it sure is odouriferous!


I didn't know there were any NA diesels in vehicle service anymore.
What engine did he have in his?

Even NA diesels shouldn't smoke that bad except when cold. Has he had
his pump checked? If it's within spec and hasn't been 'turned up'
maybe he should use Power Service or add some K-1 if he's burning #2.

Ted Azito 11-16-2004 05:25 PM

Re: Trail Diesel
 
"Peter Pontbriand" <sprocket.who.hates.spam@storm.ca> wrote in message news:<cn8v4j$ffa$1@news.storm.ca>...
> Well, I finally went on a trail run with a diesel today, and I've got to say
> that it was an overwhelming experience. My opinion now is that it is
> definitely worse to be behind a diesel on the trail than a carbureted
> gasoline-powered rig. I couldn't believe the billowing clouds of pitch-black
> smoke that spewed from this diesel FJ40 that was with us. My subjective
> opinion that unburned gas is a worse smell the diesel exhaust remains, but
> with the sheer volume of exhaust that diesel put out it doesn't matter. Wow.
> The owner said it was a normally aspirated 3.4 litre, and that it won't
> "smoke" so much when he puts a turbo on it. I sure hope he's right, because
> it's a beautiful and capable rig, but it sure is odouriferous!


I didn't know there were any NA diesels in vehicle service anymore.
What engine did he have in his?

Even NA diesels shouldn't smoke that bad except when cold. Has he had
his pump checked? If it's within spec and hasn't been 'turned up'
maybe he should use Power Service or add some K-1 if he's burning #2.

Ted Azito 11-16-2004 05:25 PM

Re: Trail Diesel
 
"Peter Pontbriand" <sprocket.who.hates.spam@storm.ca> wrote in message news:<cn8v4j$ffa$1@news.storm.ca>...
> Well, I finally went on a trail run with a diesel today, and I've got to say
> that it was an overwhelming experience. My opinion now is that it is
> definitely worse to be behind a diesel on the trail than a carbureted
> gasoline-powered rig. I couldn't believe the billowing clouds of pitch-black
> smoke that spewed from this diesel FJ40 that was with us. My subjective
> opinion that unburned gas is a worse smell the diesel exhaust remains, but
> with the sheer volume of exhaust that diesel put out it doesn't matter. Wow.
> The owner said it was a normally aspirated 3.4 litre, and that it won't
> "smoke" so much when he puts a turbo on it. I sure hope he's right, because
> it's a beautiful and capable rig, but it sure is odouriferous!


I didn't know there were any NA diesels in vehicle service anymore.
What engine did he have in his?

Even NA diesels shouldn't smoke that bad except when cold. Has he had
his pump checked? If it's within spec and hasn't been 'turned up'
maybe he should use Power Service or add some K-1 if he's burning #2.

Mike Romain 11-16-2004 06:19 PM

Re: Trail Diesel
 
Ted Azito wrote:
>
> "Peter Pontbriand" <sprocket.who.hates.spam@storm.ca> wrote in message news:<cn8v4j$ffa$1@news.storm.ca>...
> > Well, I finally went on a trail run with a diesel today, and I've got to say
> > that it was an overwhelming experience. My opinion now is that it is
> > definitely worse to be behind a diesel on the trail than a carbureted
> > gasoline-powered rig. I couldn't believe the billowing clouds of pitch-black
> > smoke that spewed from this diesel FJ40 that was with us. My subjective
> > opinion that unburned gas is a worse smell the diesel exhaust remains, but
> > with the sheer volume of exhaust that diesel put out it doesn't matter. Wow.
> > The owner said it was a normally aspirated 3.4 litre, and that it won't
> > "smoke" so much when he puts a turbo on it. I sure hope he's right, because
> > it's a beautiful and capable rig, but it sure is odouriferous!

>
> I didn't know there were any NA diesels in vehicle service anymore.
> What engine did he have in his?
>
> Even NA diesels shouldn't smoke that bad except when cold. Has he had
> his pump checked? If it's within spec and hasn't been 'turned up'
> maybe he should use Power Service or add some K-1 if he's burning #2.


We are in Canada so it is cold already and he is burning the cold fuel.

Those things are just plain obnoxious on the trails when called on to
make some torque. Even idling along they are bad but when you have to
pour it on, well.... They should bring up the rear.....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Mike Romain 11-16-2004 06:19 PM

Re: Trail Diesel
 
Ted Azito wrote:
>
> "Peter Pontbriand" <sprocket.who.hates.spam@storm.ca> wrote in message news:<cn8v4j$ffa$1@news.storm.ca>...
> > Well, I finally went on a trail run with a diesel today, and I've got to say
> > that it was an overwhelming experience. My opinion now is that it is
> > definitely worse to be behind a diesel on the trail than a carbureted
> > gasoline-powered rig. I couldn't believe the billowing clouds of pitch-black
> > smoke that spewed from this diesel FJ40 that was with us. My subjective
> > opinion that unburned gas is a worse smell the diesel exhaust remains, but
> > with the sheer volume of exhaust that diesel put out it doesn't matter. Wow.
> > The owner said it was a normally aspirated 3.4 litre, and that it won't
> > "smoke" so much when he puts a turbo on it. I sure hope he's right, because
> > it's a beautiful and capable rig, but it sure is odouriferous!

>
> I didn't know there were any NA diesels in vehicle service anymore.
> What engine did he have in his?
>
> Even NA diesels shouldn't smoke that bad except when cold. Has he had
> his pump checked? If it's within spec and hasn't been 'turned up'
> maybe he should use Power Service or add some K-1 if he's burning #2.


We are in Canada so it is cold already and he is burning the cold fuel.

Those things are just plain obnoxious on the trails when called on to
make some torque. Even idling along they are bad but when you have to
pour it on, well.... They should bring up the rear.....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Mike Romain 11-16-2004 06:19 PM

Re: Trail Diesel
 
Ted Azito wrote:
>
> "Peter Pontbriand" <sprocket.who.hates.spam@storm.ca> wrote in message news:<cn8v4j$ffa$1@news.storm.ca>...
> > Well, I finally went on a trail run with a diesel today, and I've got to say
> > that it was an overwhelming experience. My opinion now is that it is
> > definitely worse to be behind a diesel on the trail than a carbureted
> > gasoline-powered rig. I couldn't believe the billowing clouds of pitch-black
> > smoke that spewed from this diesel FJ40 that was with us. My subjective
> > opinion that unburned gas is a worse smell the diesel exhaust remains, but
> > with the sheer volume of exhaust that diesel put out it doesn't matter. Wow.
> > The owner said it was a normally aspirated 3.4 litre, and that it won't
> > "smoke" so much when he puts a turbo on it. I sure hope he's right, because
> > it's a beautiful and capable rig, but it sure is odouriferous!

>
> I didn't know there were any NA diesels in vehicle service anymore.
> What engine did he have in his?
>
> Even NA diesels shouldn't smoke that bad except when cold. Has he had
> his pump checked? If it's within spec and hasn't been 'turned up'
> maybe he should use Power Service or add some K-1 if he's burning #2.


We are in Canada so it is cold already and he is burning the cold fuel.

Those things are just plain obnoxious on the trails when called on to
make some torque. Even idling along they are bad but when you have to
pour it on, well.... They should bring up the rear.....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Me 11-16-2004 09:15 PM

Re: Trail Diesel
 
>We are in Canada so it is cold already and he is burning the cold fuel.

Depends where you are.. It's been sitting around 15C-17C during the
day for the past week or so here.. getting down to -2to-4C during
the night.. Even now at 7:14pm it's 10C outside right now.. And
that's just a few minutes north of Calgary...

Me 11-16-2004 09:15 PM

Re: Trail Diesel
 
>We are in Canada so it is cold already and he is burning the cold fuel.

Depends where you are.. It's been sitting around 15C-17C during the
day for the past week or so here.. getting down to -2to-4C during
the night.. Even now at 7:14pm it's 10C outside right now.. And
that's just a few minutes north of Calgary...

Me 11-16-2004 09:15 PM

Re: Trail Diesel
 
>We are in Canada so it is cold already and he is burning the cold fuel.

Depends where you are.. It's been sitting around 15C-17C during the
day for the past week or so here.. getting down to -2to-4C during
the night.. Even now at 7:14pm it's 10C outside right now.. And
that's just a few minutes north of Calgary...


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