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Brett 03-03-2007 08:05 AM

Towing question.
 
On TJ unlimiteds, why is the automatics tow rating bumped to 3500 but not
the standard? I have an 06 Rubicon Unlimited manual and would like to pull
a pop-up trailer that needs the 3500 rating.

thanks,
brett

Mike Romain 03-03-2007 09:25 AM

Re: Towing question.
 
Brett wrote:
> On TJ unlimiteds, why is the automatics tow rating bumped to 3500 but not
> the standard? I have an 06 Rubicon Unlimited manual and would like to pull
> a pop-up trailer that needs the 3500 rating.
>
> thanks,
> brett



I don't think DC believes anyone can tow over 2000 lb with a standard
transmission and not burn the clutch out....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain 03-03-2007 09:25 AM

Re: Towing question.
 
Brett wrote:
> On TJ unlimiteds, why is the automatics tow rating bumped to 3500 but not
> the standard? I have an 06 Rubicon Unlimited manual and would like to pull
> a pop-up trailer that needs the 3500 rating.
>
> thanks,
> brett



I don't think DC believes anyone can tow over 2000 lb with a standard
transmission and not burn the clutch out....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain 03-03-2007 09:25 AM

Re: Towing question.
 
Brett wrote:
> On TJ unlimiteds, why is the automatics tow rating bumped to 3500 but not
> the standard? I have an 06 Rubicon Unlimited manual and would like to pull
> a pop-up trailer that needs the 3500 rating.
>
> thanks,
> brett



I don't think DC believes anyone can tow over 2000 lb with a standard
transmission and not burn the clutch out....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

RAC 03-03-2007 09:25 AM

Re: Towing question.
 
I think it's because the autos have a transmission cooler.

RAC


"Brett" <brett.dugan@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns98E83DE882D11vr4@216.196.97.136...
> On TJ unlimiteds, why is the automatics tow rating bumped to 3500 but not
> the standard? I have an 06 Rubicon Unlimited manual and would like to

pull
> a pop-up trailer that needs the 3500 rating.
>
> thanks,
> brett




RAC 03-03-2007 09:25 AM

Re: Towing question.
 
I think it's because the autos have a transmission cooler.

RAC


"Brett" <brett.dugan@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns98E83DE882D11vr4@216.196.97.136...
> On TJ unlimiteds, why is the automatics tow rating bumped to 3500 but not
> the standard? I have an 06 Rubicon Unlimited manual and would like to

pull
> a pop-up trailer that needs the 3500 rating.
>
> thanks,
> brett




RAC 03-03-2007 09:25 AM

Re: Towing question.
 
I think it's because the autos have a transmission cooler.

RAC


"Brett" <brett.dugan@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns98E83DE882D11vr4@216.196.97.136...
> On TJ unlimiteds, why is the automatics tow rating bumped to 3500 but not
> the standard? I have an 06 Rubicon Unlimited manual and would like to

pull
> a pop-up trailer that needs the 3500 rating.
>
> thanks,
> brett




doane_nut 03-03-2007 10:14 AM

Re: Towing question.
 
That's because they are less efficient and generate more heat than a
standard....
"RAC" <Thamus1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:lzfGh.31578$11.185568@wagner.videotron.net...
>I think it's because the autos have a transmission cooler.
>
> RAC
>
>
> "Brett" <brett.dugan@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Xns98E83DE882D11vr4@216.196.97.136...
>> On TJ unlimiteds, why is the automatics tow rating bumped to 3500 but not
>> the standard? I have an 06 Rubicon Unlimited manual and would like to

> pull
>> a pop-up trailer that needs the 3500 rating.
>>
>> thanks,
>> brett

>
>




doane_nut 03-03-2007 10:14 AM

Re: Towing question.
 
That's because they are less efficient and generate more heat than a
standard....
"RAC" <Thamus1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:lzfGh.31578$11.185568@wagner.videotron.net...
>I think it's because the autos have a transmission cooler.
>
> RAC
>
>
> "Brett" <brett.dugan@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Xns98E83DE882D11vr4@216.196.97.136...
>> On TJ unlimiteds, why is the automatics tow rating bumped to 3500 but not
>> the standard? I have an 06 Rubicon Unlimited manual and would like to

> pull
>> a pop-up trailer that needs the 3500 rating.
>>
>> thanks,
>> brett

>
>




doane_nut 03-03-2007 10:14 AM

Re: Towing question.
 
That's because they are less efficient and generate more heat than a
standard....
"RAC" <Thamus1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:lzfGh.31578$11.185568@wagner.videotron.net...
>I think it's because the autos have a transmission cooler.
>
> RAC
>
>
> "Brett" <brett.dugan@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Xns98E83DE882D11vr4@216.196.97.136...
>> On TJ unlimiteds, why is the automatics tow rating bumped to 3500 but not
>> the standard? I have an 06 Rubicon Unlimited manual and would like to

> pull
>> a pop-up trailer that needs the 3500 rating.
>>
>> thanks,
>> brett

>
>




Dave Milne 03-03-2007 10:32 AM

Re: Towing question.
 
Wranglers over here are rated 2 tonnes with a braked trailer.

Dave

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45e98549$0$29965$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> Brett wrote:
> > On TJ unlimiteds, why is the automatics tow rating bumped to 3500 but

not
> > the standard? I have an 06 Rubicon Unlimited manual and would like to

pull
> > a pop-up trailer that needs the 3500 rating.
> >
> > thanks,
> > brett

>
>
> I don't think DC believes anyone can tow over 2000 lb with a standard
> transmission and not burn the clutch out....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)




Dave Milne 03-03-2007 10:32 AM

Re: Towing question.
 
Wranglers over here are rated 2 tonnes with a braked trailer.

Dave

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45e98549$0$29965$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> Brett wrote:
> > On TJ unlimiteds, why is the automatics tow rating bumped to 3500 but

not
> > the standard? I have an 06 Rubicon Unlimited manual and would like to

pull
> > a pop-up trailer that needs the 3500 rating.
> >
> > thanks,
> > brett

>
>
> I don't think DC believes anyone can tow over 2000 lb with a standard
> transmission and not burn the clutch out....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)




Dave Milne 03-03-2007 10:32 AM

Re: Towing question.
 
Wranglers over here are rated 2 tonnes with a braked trailer.

Dave

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45e98549$0$29965$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> Brett wrote:
> > On TJ unlimiteds, why is the automatics tow rating bumped to 3500 but

not
> > the standard? I have an 06 Rubicon Unlimited manual and would like to

pull
> > a pop-up trailer that needs the 3500 rating.
> >
> > thanks,
> > brett

>
>
> I don't think DC believes anyone can tow over 2000 lb with a standard
> transmission and not burn the clutch out....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)




Earle Horton 03-03-2007 11:52 AM

Re: Towing question.
 
That would be a standard transmission? High speed evasive maneuvers are
going to be problematical with a short wheelbase vehicle and a two ton
trailer, brakes or no. Last night a whole family decided to cross an unlit
section of highway in front of me, 55 mph speed limit, all dressed in black
except for shoes. There must have been six of them. Christ. Over here we
have people suddenly change lanes or apply the brakes for no reason,
irregardless of who or what is following them.

I think you could pull the trailer, but getting it around these types is
going to be a problem.

Earle

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
news:lygGh.28022$1E3.22853@fe3.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Wranglers over here are rated 2 tonnes with a braked trailer.
>
> Dave
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:45e98549$0$29965$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> > Brett wrote:
> > > On TJ unlimiteds, why is the automatics tow rating bumped to 3500 but

> not
> > > the standard? I have an 06 Rubicon Unlimited manual and would like to

> pull
> > > a pop-up trailer that needs the 3500 rating.
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > > brett

> >
> >
> > I don't think DC believes anyone can tow over 2000 lb with a standard
> > transmission and not burn the clutch out....
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

>
>




Earle Horton 03-03-2007 11:52 AM

Re: Towing question.
 
That would be a standard transmission? High speed evasive maneuvers are
going to be problematical with a short wheelbase vehicle and a two ton
trailer, brakes or no. Last night a whole family decided to cross an unlit
section of highway in front of me, 55 mph speed limit, all dressed in black
except for shoes. There must have been six of them. Christ. Over here we
have people suddenly change lanes or apply the brakes for no reason,
irregardless of who or what is following them.

I think you could pull the trailer, but getting it around these types is
going to be a problem.

Earle

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
news:lygGh.28022$1E3.22853@fe3.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Wranglers over here are rated 2 tonnes with a braked trailer.
>
> Dave
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:45e98549$0$29965$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> > Brett wrote:
> > > On TJ unlimiteds, why is the automatics tow rating bumped to 3500 but

> not
> > > the standard? I have an 06 Rubicon Unlimited manual and would like to

> pull
> > > a pop-up trailer that needs the 3500 rating.
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > > brett

> >
> >
> > I don't think DC believes anyone can tow over 2000 lb with a standard
> > transmission and not burn the clutch out....
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

>
>




Earle Horton 03-03-2007 11:52 AM

Re: Towing question.
 
That would be a standard transmission? High speed evasive maneuvers are
going to be problematical with a short wheelbase vehicle and a two ton
trailer, brakes or no. Last night a whole family decided to cross an unlit
section of highway in front of me, 55 mph speed limit, all dressed in black
except for shoes. There must have been six of them. Christ. Over here we
have people suddenly change lanes or apply the brakes for no reason,
irregardless of who or what is following them.

I think you could pull the trailer, but getting it around these types is
going to be a problem.

Earle

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
news:lygGh.28022$1E3.22853@fe3.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Wranglers over here are rated 2 tonnes with a braked trailer.
>
> Dave
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:45e98549$0$29965$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> > Brett wrote:
> > > On TJ unlimiteds, why is the automatics tow rating bumped to 3500 but

> not
> > > the standard? I have an 06 Rubicon Unlimited manual and would like to

> pull
> > > a pop-up trailer that needs the 3500 rating.
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > > brett

> >
> >
> > I don't think DC believes anyone can tow over 2000 lb with a standard
> > transmission and not burn the clutch out....
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

>
>




Dave Milne 03-03-2007 12:20 PM

Re: Towing question.
 
Yes, thats with the manual. I would not tow 2 tons in a Wrangler at 55 mph
for the reasons you describe, but it is technically rated for it.
Might do it if I was going around town at 30mph I guess, but basically I
bought the longer wheelbase and stronger axled Disco 2 for towing.

Dave

"Earle Horton" <gracioso@usa.com> wrote in message
news:45e9a6d3$0$26603$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> That would be a standard transmission? High speed evasive maneuvers are
> going to be problematical with a short wheelbase vehicle and a two ton
> trailer, brakes or no. Last night a whole family decided to cross an

unlit
> section of highway in front of me, 55 mph speed limit, all dressed in

black
> except for shoes. There must have been six of them. Christ. Over here

we
> have people suddenly change lanes or apply the brakes for no reason,
> irregardless of who or what is following them.
>
> I think you could pull the trailer, but getting it around these types is
> going to be a problem.
>
> Earle
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:lygGh.28022$1E3.22853@fe3.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > Wranglers over here are rated 2 tonnes with a braked trailer.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:45e98549$0$29965$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> > > Brett wrote:
> > > > On TJ unlimiteds, why is the automatics tow rating bumped to 3500

but
> > not
> > > > the standard? I have an 06 Rubicon Unlimited manual and would like

to
> > pull
> > > > a pop-up trailer that needs the 3500 rating.
> > > >
> > > > thanks,
> > > > brett
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't think DC believes anyone can tow over 2000 lb with a standard
> > > transmission and not burn the clutch out....
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

> >
> >

>
>




Dave Milne 03-03-2007 12:20 PM

Re: Towing question.
 
Yes, thats with the manual. I would not tow 2 tons in a Wrangler at 55 mph
for the reasons you describe, but it is technically rated for it.
Might do it if I was going around town at 30mph I guess, but basically I
bought the longer wheelbase and stronger axled Disco 2 for towing.

Dave

"Earle Horton" <gracioso@usa.com> wrote in message
news:45e9a6d3$0$26603$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> That would be a standard transmission? High speed evasive maneuvers are
> going to be problematical with a short wheelbase vehicle and a two ton
> trailer, brakes or no. Last night a whole family decided to cross an

unlit
> section of highway in front of me, 55 mph speed limit, all dressed in

black
> except for shoes. There must have been six of them. Christ. Over here

we
> have people suddenly change lanes or apply the brakes for no reason,
> irregardless of who or what is following them.
>
> I think you could pull the trailer, but getting it around these types is
> going to be a problem.
>
> Earle
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:lygGh.28022$1E3.22853@fe3.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > Wranglers over here are rated 2 tonnes with a braked trailer.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:45e98549$0$29965$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> > > Brett wrote:
> > > > On TJ unlimiteds, why is the automatics tow rating bumped to 3500

but
> > not
> > > > the standard? I have an 06 Rubicon Unlimited manual and would like

to
> > pull
> > > > a pop-up trailer that needs the 3500 rating.
> > > >
> > > > thanks,
> > > > brett
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't think DC believes anyone can tow over 2000 lb with a standard
> > > transmission and not burn the clutch out....
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

> >
> >

>
>




Dave Milne 03-03-2007 12:20 PM

Re: Towing question.
 
Yes, thats with the manual. I would not tow 2 tons in a Wrangler at 55 mph
for the reasons you describe, but it is technically rated for it.
Might do it if I was going around town at 30mph I guess, but basically I
bought the longer wheelbase and stronger axled Disco 2 for towing.

Dave

"Earle Horton" <gracioso@usa.com> wrote in message
news:45e9a6d3$0$26603$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> That would be a standard transmission? High speed evasive maneuvers are
> going to be problematical with a short wheelbase vehicle and a two ton
> trailer, brakes or no. Last night a whole family decided to cross an

unlit
> section of highway in front of me, 55 mph speed limit, all dressed in

black
> except for shoes. There must have been six of them. Christ. Over here

we
> have people suddenly change lanes or apply the brakes for no reason,
> irregardless of who or what is following them.
>
> I think you could pull the trailer, but getting it around these types is
> going to be a problem.
>
> Earle
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:lygGh.28022$1E3.22853@fe3.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > Wranglers over here are rated 2 tonnes with a braked trailer.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:45e98549$0$29965$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> > > Brett wrote:
> > > > On TJ unlimiteds, why is the automatics tow rating bumped to 3500

but
> > not
> > > > the standard? I have an 06 Rubicon Unlimited manual and would like

to
> > pull
> > > > a pop-up trailer that needs the 3500 rating.
> > > >
> > > > thanks,
> > > > brett
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't think DC believes anyone can tow over 2000 lb with a standard
> > > transmission and not burn the clutch out....
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

> >
> >

>
>




Don Hamilton 03-03-2007 01:22 PM

Re: Towing question.
 

"Brett" <brett.dugan@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns98E83DE882D11vr4@216.196.97.136...
> On TJ unlimiteds, why is the automatics tow rating bumped to 3500 but not
> the standard? I have an 06 Rubicon Unlimited manual and would like to
> pull
> a pop-up trailer that needs the 3500 rating.
>
> thanks,
> brett


I have a 2005 Rubi Unlimited with automatic and tried to just put one of the
basket type carriers in the receiver hitch. With just a 100 quart Igloo
cooler and a couple of small logs (for my camp fire). My Unlimited headlight
were star gazing. My guess would be 250 lbs tongue weight at most. I do not
think it will pull if there is tongue weight over 100 my guess. The extra
space behind the wheels plus the tongue extension just creates too much
leverage.
My experience last week. Don



Don Hamilton 03-03-2007 01:22 PM

Re: Towing question.
 

"Brett" <brett.dugan@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns98E83DE882D11vr4@216.196.97.136...
> On TJ unlimiteds, why is the automatics tow rating bumped to 3500 but not
> the standard? I have an 06 Rubicon Unlimited manual and would like to
> pull
> a pop-up trailer that needs the 3500 rating.
>
> thanks,
> brett


I have a 2005 Rubi Unlimited with automatic and tried to just put one of the
basket type carriers in the receiver hitch. With just a 100 quart Igloo
cooler and a couple of small logs (for my camp fire). My Unlimited headlight
were star gazing. My guess would be 250 lbs tongue weight at most. I do not
think it will pull if there is tongue weight over 100 my guess. The extra
space behind the wheels plus the tongue extension just creates too much
leverage.
My experience last week. Don



Don Hamilton 03-03-2007 01:22 PM

Re: Towing question.
 

"Brett" <brett.dugan@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns98E83DE882D11vr4@216.196.97.136...
> On TJ unlimiteds, why is the automatics tow rating bumped to 3500 but not
> the standard? I have an 06 Rubicon Unlimited manual and would like to
> pull
> a pop-up trailer that needs the 3500 rating.
>
> thanks,
> brett


I have a 2005 Rubi Unlimited with automatic and tried to just put one of the
basket type carriers in the receiver hitch. With just a 100 quart Igloo
cooler and a couple of small logs (for my camp fire). My Unlimited headlight
were star gazing. My guess would be 250 lbs tongue weight at most. I do not
think it will pull if there is tongue weight over 100 my guess. The extra
space behind the wheels plus the tongue extension just creates too much
leverage.
My experience last week. Don



Carl S 03-03-2007 01:56 PM

Re: Towing question.
 
Don, if you plan to use that cooler often, try putting a 1" coil spacer in
the back. This should solve your problem.

Carl


"Don Hamilton" <CDHamilnospam@excite.com> wrote in message
news:12ujf779v3ga6ab@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Brett" <brett.dugan@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Xns98E83DE882D11vr4@216.196.97.136...
>> On TJ unlimiteds, why is the automatics tow rating bumped to 3500 but not
>> the standard? I have an 06 Rubicon Unlimited manual and would like to
>> pull
>> a pop-up trailer that needs the 3500 rating.
>>
>> thanks,
>> brett

>
> I have a 2005 Rubi Unlimited with automatic and tried to just put one of
> the basket type carriers in the receiver hitch. With just a 100 quart
> Igloo cooler and a couple of small logs (for my camp fire). My Unlimited
> headlight were star gazing. My guess would be 250 lbs tongue weight at
> most. I do not think it will pull if there is tongue weight over 100 my
> guess. The extra space behind the wheels plus the tongue extension just
> creates too much leverage.
> My experience last week. Don
>




Carl S 03-03-2007 01:56 PM

Re: Towing question.
 
Don, if you plan to use that cooler often, try putting a 1" coil spacer in
the back. This should solve your problem.

Carl


"Don Hamilton" <CDHamilnospam@excite.com> wrote in message
news:12ujf779v3ga6ab@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Brett" <brett.dugan@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Xns98E83DE882D11vr4@216.196.97.136...
>> On TJ unlimiteds, why is the automatics tow rating bumped to 3500 but not
>> the standard? I have an 06 Rubicon Unlimited manual and would like to
>> pull
>> a pop-up trailer that needs the 3500 rating.
>>
>> thanks,
>> brett

>
> I have a 2005 Rubi Unlimited with automatic and tried to just put one of
> the basket type carriers in the receiver hitch. With just a 100 quart
> Igloo cooler and a couple of small logs (for my camp fire). My Unlimited
> headlight were star gazing. My guess would be 250 lbs tongue weight at
> most. I do not think it will pull if there is tongue weight over 100 my
> guess. The extra space behind the wheels plus the tongue extension just
> creates too much leverage.
> My experience last week. Don
>




Carl S 03-03-2007 01:56 PM

Re: Towing question.
 
Don, if you plan to use that cooler often, try putting a 1" coil spacer in
the back. This should solve your problem.

Carl


"Don Hamilton" <CDHamilnospam@excite.com> wrote in message
news:12ujf779v3ga6ab@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Brett" <brett.dugan@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Xns98E83DE882D11vr4@216.196.97.136...
>> On TJ unlimiteds, why is the automatics tow rating bumped to 3500 but not
>> the standard? I have an 06 Rubicon Unlimited manual and would like to
>> pull
>> a pop-up trailer that needs the 3500 rating.
>>
>> thanks,
>> brett

>
> I have a 2005 Rubi Unlimited with automatic and tried to just put one of
> the basket type carriers in the receiver hitch. With just a 100 quart
> Igloo cooler and a couple of small logs (for my camp fire). My Unlimited
> headlight were star gazing. My guess would be 250 lbs tongue weight at
> most. I do not think it will pull if there is tongue weight over 100 my
> guess. The extra space behind the wheels plus the tongue extension just
> creates too much leverage.
> My experience last week. Don
>




Don Hamilton 03-03-2007 02:10 PM

Re: Towing question.
 
Carl are you talking about the alum. type you can just twist in with a 1/2
drive?

"Carl S" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:HIednfPZ2sBmWXTYnZ2dnUVZ_riknZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Don, if you plan to use that cooler often, try putting a 1" coil spacer in
> the back. This should solve your problem.
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Don Hamilton" <CDHamilnospam@excite.com> wrote in message
> news:12ujf779v3ga6ab@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>> "Brett" <brett.dugan@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:Xns98E83DE882D11vr4@216.196.97.136...
>>> On TJ unlimiteds, why is the automatics tow rating bumped to 3500 but
>>> not
>>> the standard? I have an 06 Rubicon Unlimited manual and would like to
>>> pull
>>> a pop-up trailer that needs the 3500 rating.
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> brett

>>
>> I have a 2005 Rubi Unlimited with automatic and tried to just put one of
>> the basket type carriers in the receiver hitch. With just a 100 quart
>> Igloo cooler and a couple of small logs (for my camp fire). My Unlimited
>> headlight were star gazing. My guess would be 250 lbs tongue weight at
>> most. I do not think it will pull if there is tongue weight over 100 my
>> guess. The extra space behind the wheels plus the tongue extension just
>> creates too much leverage.
>> My experience last week. Don
>>

>
>




Don Hamilton 03-03-2007 02:10 PM

Re: Towing question.
 
Carl are you talking about the alum. type you can just twist in with a 1/2
drive?

"Carl S" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:HIednfPZ2sBmWXTYnZ2dnUVZ_riknZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Don, if you plan to use that cooler often, try putting a 1" coil spacer in
> the back. This should solve your problem.
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Don Hamilton" <CDHamilnospam@excite.com> wrote in message
> news:12ujf779v3ga6ab@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>> "Brett" <brett.dugan@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:Xns98E83DE882D11vr4@216.196.97.136...
>>> On TJ unlimiteds, why is the automatics tow rating bumped to 3500 but
>>> not
>>> the standard? I have an 06 Rubicon Unlimited manual and would like to
>>> pull
>>> a pop-up trailer that needs the 3500 rating.
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> brett

>>
>> I have a 2005 Rubi Unlimited with automatic and tried to just put one of
>> the basket type carriers in the receiver hitch. With just a 100 quart
>> Igloo cooler and a couple of small logs (for my camp fire). My Unlimited
>> headlight were star gazing. My guess would be 250 lbs tongue weight at
>> most. I do not think it will pull if there is tongue weight over 100 my
>> guess. The extra space behind the wheels plus the tongue extension just
>> creates too much leverage.
>> My experience last week. Don
>>

>
>




Don Hamilton 03-03-2007 02:10 PM

Re: Towing question.
 
Carl are you talking about the alum. type you can just twist in with a 1/2
drive?

"Carl S" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:HIednfPZ2sBmWXTYnZ2dnUVZ_riknZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Don, if you plan to use that cooler often, try putting a 1" coil spacer in
> the back. This should solve your problem.
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Don Hamilton" <CDHamilnospam@excite.com> wrote in message
> news:12ujf779v3ga6ab@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>> "Brett" <brett.dugan@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:Xns98E83DE882D11vr4@216.196.97.136...
>>> On TJ unlimiteds, why is the automatics tow rating bumped to 3500 but
>>> not
>>> the standard? I have an 06 Rubicon Unlimited manual and would like to
>>> pull
>>> a pop-up trailer that needs the 3500 rating.
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> brett

>>
>> I have a 2005 Rubi Unlimited with automatic and tried to just put one of
>> the basket type carriers in the receiver hitch. With just a 100 quart
>> Igloo cooler and a couple of small logs (for my camp fire). My Unlimited
>> headlight were star gazing. My guess would be 250 lbs tongue weight at
>> most. I do not think it will pull if there is tongue weight over 100 my
>> guess. The extra space behind the wheels plus the tongue extension just
>> creates too much leverage.
>> My experience last week. Don
>>

>
>




Carl S 03-03-2007 03:20 PM

Re: Towing question.
 
No, a poly spacer that goes on top of the coil spring, netting 1" of
non-adjustable lift.

Carl


"Don Hamilton" <CDHamilnospam@excite.com> wrote in message
news:12uji1mhotkr200@corp.supernews.com...
> Carl are you talking about the alum. type you can just twist in with a 1/2
> drive?
>
> "Carl S" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:HIednfPZ2sBmWXTYnZ2dnUVZ_riknZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> Don, if you plan to use that cooler often, try putting a 1" coil spacer
>> in the back. This should solve your problem.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>>
>> "Don Hamilton" <CDHamilnospam@excite.com> wrote in message
>> news:12ujf779v3ga6ab@corp.supernews.com...
>>>
>>> "Brett" <brett.dugan@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:Xns98E83DE882D11vr4@216.196.97.136...
>>>> On TJ unlimiteds, why is the automatics tow rating bumped to 3500 but
>>>> not
>>>> the standard? I have an 06 Rubicon Unlimited manual and would like to
>>>> pull
>>>> a pop-up trailer that needs the 3500 rating.
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>> brett
>>>
>>> I have a 2005 Rubi Unlimited with automatic and tried to just put one of
>>> the basket type carriers in the receiver hitch. With just a 100 quart
>>> Igloo cooler and a couple of small logs (for my camp fire). My Unlimited
>>> headlight were star gazing. My guess would be 250 lbs tongue weight at
>>> most. I do not think it will pull if there is tongue weight over 100 my
>>> guess. The extra space behind the wheels plus the tongue extension just
>>> creates too much leverage.
>>> My experience last week. Don
>>>

>>
>>

>
>




Carl S 03-03-2007 03:20 PM

Re: Towing question.
 
No, a poly spacer that goes on top of the coil spring, netting 1" of
non-adjustable lift.

Carl


"Don Hamilton" <CDHamilnospam@excite.com> wrote in message
news:12uji1mhotkr200@corp.supernews.com...
> Carl are you talking about the alum. type you can just twist in with a 1/2
> drive?
>
> "Carl S" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:HIednfPZ2sBmWXTYnZ2dnUVZ_riknZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> Don, if you plan to use that cooler often, try putting a 1" coil spacer
>> in the back. This should solve your problem.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>>
>> "Don Hamilton" <CDHamilnospam@excite.com> wrote in message
>> news:12ujf779v3ga6ab@corp.supernews.com...
>>>
>>> "Brett" <brett.dugan@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:Xns98E83DE882D11vr4@216.196.97.136...
>>>> On TJ unlimiteds, why is the automatics tow rating bumped to 3500 but
>>>> not
>>>> the standard? I have an 06 Rubicon Unlimited manual and would like to
>>>> pull
>>>> a pop-up trailer that needs the 3500 rating.
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>> brett
>>>
>>> I have a 2005 Rubi Unlimited with automatic and tried to just put one of
>>> the basket type carriers in the receiver hitch. With just a 100 quart
>>> Igloo cooler and a couple of small logs (for my camp fire). My Unlimited
>>> headlight were star gazing. My guess would be 250 lbs tongue weight at
>>> most. I do not think it will pull if there is tongue weight over 100 my
>>> guess. The extra space behind the wheels plus the tongue extension just
>>> creates too much leverage.
>>> My experience last week. Don
>>>

>>
>>

>
>




Carl S 03-03-2007 03:20 PM

Re: Towing question.
 
No, a poly spacer that goes on top of the coil spring, netting 1" of
non-adjustable lift.

Carl


"Don Hamilton" <CDHamilnospam@excite.com> wrote in message
news:12uji1mhotkr200@corp.supernews.com...
> Carl are you talking about the alum. type you can just twist in with a 1/2
> drive?
>
> "Carl S" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:HIednfPZ2sBmWXTYnZ2dnUVZ_riknZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> Don, if you plan to use that cooler often, try putting a 1" coil spacer
>> in the back. This should solve your problem.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>>
>> "Don Hamilton" <CDHamilnospam@excite.com> wrote in message
>> news:12ujf779v3ga6ab@corp.supernews.com...
>>>
>>> "Brett" <brett.dugan@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:Xns98E83DE882D11vr4@216.196.97.136...
>>>> On TJ unlimiteds, why is the automatics tow rating bumped to 3500 but
>>>> not
>>>> the standard? I have an 06 Rubicon Unlimited manual and would like to
>>>> pull
>>>> a pop-up trailer that needs the 3500 rating.
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>> brett
>>>
>>> I have a 2005 Rubi Unlimited with automatic and tried to just put one of
>>> the basket type carriers in the receiver hitch. With just a 100 quart
>>> Igloo cooler and a couple of small logs (for my camp fire). My Unlimited
>>> headlight were star gazing. My guess would be 250 lbs tongue weight at
>>> most. I do not think it will pull if there is tongue weight over 100 my
>>> guess. The extra space behind the wheels plus the tongue extension just
>>> creates too much leverage.
>>> My experience last week. Don
>>>

>>
>>

>
>





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