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TW 02-28-2004 07:58 AM

Tow Hooks for 01 TJ
 
Hi All,

I have just bought four ARB 10k lbs rated tow hooks and before I go and
start installing them (I have to wait for the cyclone to stop dumping rain
in Auckland), I just wanted to ask a couple of questions. I have done my
research on the internet and found a number of links, an example of which
is:
http://members.cox.net/rough-riders/..._tow_hooks.htm
l

Front tow hooks: Am I simply going to remove the top two bolts from each
side and put the tow hooks and secure them in place? I will be taking that
eyelet of a tow point off as it is very difficult to put any decent size
shackle or rope through the hole. I have grade 5 bolts that came with the
tow hooks, should I use them or just put the factory bolts back on? Whats
the rating on factory torx bolts? Additionally, when I take the bolts off,
are there any nuts on the back that might fall off into the frame
somewhere? If yes, whats the best way to install these hooks and not lose
the nuts. I do have nuts that came with the hooks as well.

Rear tow hooks: I realise that I will have to probably drill an extra hole
for each tow hook. However, I just wanted to ask for the best way of
installing them. I have seen on the internet that people mostly install
the back hooks on the side of the frame (as shown in the bottom picture on
the above link). Why can't I drill a hole on the bottom of the frame and
use one bolt/hole by which the bumper assembly is attached to the frame?
What about the nut behind that bolt, is it fixed to the frame? I can drill
a second hole just behind it and install the hook on the bottom facing
downward. I don't think it will cause any problem with the departure
angel. I will be taking that eyelet (factory part) off, so it should be
okay, right? The only thing might be the chances of rope slipping off if
the hook is facing downward, can I then install rope retaining clips to
avoid it?

Thanks in advance for all your input.
TW




Casey 02-28-2004 12:35 PM

Re: Tow Hooks for 01 TJ
 
Straight from the service guide. This is for a 2002, but it is probably the
same.
Good Luck
http://home.nc.rr.com/thegavettes/towhooks.htm

"TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message
news:c1q26o$4b2$1@news.wave.co.nz...
> Hi All,
>
> I have just bought four ARB 10k lbs rated tow hooks and before I go and
> start installing them (I have to wait for the cyclone to stop dumping rain
> in Auckland), I just wanted to ask a couple of questions. I have done my
> research on the internet and found a number of links, an example of which
> is:
>

http://members.cox.net/rough-riders/..._tow_hooks.htm
> l
>
> Front tow hooks: Am I simply going to remove the top two bolts from each
> side and put the tow hooks and secure them in place? I will be taking

that
> eyelet of a tow point off as it is very difficult to put any decent size
> shackle or rope through the hole. I have grade 5 bolts that came with the
> tow hooks, should I use them or just put the factory bolts back on? Whats
> the rating on factory torx bolts? Additionally, when I take the bolts

off,
> are there any nuts on the back that might fall off into the frame
> somewhere? If yes, whats the best way to install these hooks and not lose
> the nuts. I do have nuts that came with the hooks as well.
>
> Rear tow hooks: I realise that I will have to probably drill an extra

hole
> for each tow hook. However, I just wanted to ask for the best way of
> installing them. I have seen on the internet that people mostly install
> the back hooks on the side of the frame (as shown in the bottom picture on
> the above link). Why can't I drill a hole on the bottom of the frame and
> use one bolt/hole by which the bumper assembly is attached to the frame?
> What about the nut behind that bolt, is it fixed to the frame? I can

drill
> a second hole just behind it and install the hook on the bottom facing
> downward. I don't think it will cause any problem with the departure
> angel. I will be taking that eyelet (factory part) off, so it should be
> okay, right? The only thing might be the chances of rope slipping off if
> the hook is facing downward, can I then install rope retaining clips to
> avoid it?
>
> Thanks in advance for all your input.
> TW
>
>
>




Casey 02-28-2004 12:35 PM

Re: Tow Hooks for 01 TJ
 
Straight from the service guide. This is for a 2002, but it is probably the
same.
Good Luck
http://home.nc.rr.com/thegavettes/towhooks.htm

"TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message
news:c1q26o$4b2$1@news.wave.co.nz...
> Hi All,
>
> I have just bought four ARB 10k lbs rated tow hooks and before I go and
> start installing them (I have to wait for the cyclone to stop dumping rain
> in Auckland), I just wanted to ask a couple of questions. I have done my
> research on the internet and found a number of links, an example of which
> is:
>

http://members.cox.net/rough-riders/..._tow_hooks.htm
> l
>
> Front tow hooks: Am I simply going to remove the top two bolts from each
> side and put the tow hooks and secure them in place? I will be taking

that
> eyelet of a tow point off as it is very difficult to put any decent size
> shackle or rope through the hole. I have grade 5 bolts that came with the
> tow hooks, should I use them or just put the factory bolts back on? Whats
> the rating on factory torx bolts? Additionally, when I take the bolts

off,
> are there any nuts on the back that might fall off into the frame
> somewhere? If yes, whats the best way to install these hooks and not lose
> the nuts. I do have nuts that came with the hooks as well.
>
> Rear tow hooks: I realise that I will have to probably drill an extra

hole
> for each tow hook. However, I just wanted to ask for the best way of
> installing them. I have seen on the internet that people mostly install
> the back hooks on the side of the frame (as shown in the bottom picture on
> the above link). Why can't I drill a hole on the bottom of the frame and
> use one bolt/hole by which the bumper assembly is attached to the frame?
> What about the nut behind that bolt, is it fixed to the frame? I can

drill
> a second hole just behind it and install the hook on the bottom facing
> downward. I don't think it will cause any problem with the departure
> angel. I will be taking that eyelet (factory part) off, so it should be
> okay, right? The only thing might be the chances of rope slipping off if
> the hook is facing downward, can I then install rope retaining clips to
> avoid it?
>
> Thanks in advance for all your input.
> TW
>
>
>




Casey 02-28-2004 12:35 PM

Re: Tow Hooks for 01 TJ
 
Straight from the service guide. This is for a 2002, but it is probably the
same.
Good Luck
http://home.nc.rr.com/thegavettes/towhooks.htm

"TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message
news:c1q26o$4b2$1@news.wave.co.nz...
> Hi All,
>
> I have just bought four ARB 10k lbs rated tow hooks and before I go and
> start installing them (I have to wait for the cyclone to stop dumping rain
> in Auckland), I just wanted to ask a couple of questions. I have done my
> research on the internet and found a number of links, an example of which
> is:
>

http://members.cox.net/rough-riders/..._tow_hooks.htm
> l
>
> Front tow hooks: Am I simply going to remove the top two bolts from each
> side and put the tow hooks and secure them in place? I will be taking

that
> eyelet of a tow point off as it is very difficult to put any decent size
> shackle or rope through the hole. I have grade 5 bolts that came with the
> tow hooks, should I use them or just put the factory bolts back on? Whats
> the rating on factory torx bolts? Additionally, when I take the bolts

off,
> are there any nuts on the back that might fall off into the frame
> somewhere? If yes, whats the best way to install these hooks and not lose
> the nuts. I do have nuts that came with the hooks as well.
>
> Rear tow hooks: I realise that I will have to probably drill an extra

hole
> for each tow hook. However, I just wanted to ask for the best way of
> installing them. I have seen on the internet that people mostly install
> the back hooks on the side of the frame (as shown in the bottom picture on
> the above link). Why can't I drill a hole on the bottom of the frame and
> use one bolt/hole by which the bumper assembly is attached to the frame?
> What about the nut behind that bolt, is it fixed to the frame? I can

drill
> a second hole just behind it and install the hook on the bottom facing
> downward. I don't think it will cause any problem with the departure
> angel. I will be taking that eyelet (factory part) off, so it should be
> okay, right? The only thing might be the chances of rope slipping off if
> the hook is facing downward, can I then install rope retaining clips to
> avoid it?
>
> Thanks in advance for all your input.
> TW
>
>
>




David C. Moller 02-28-2004 03:38 PM

Re: Tow Hooks for 01 TJ
 
Well, for starters, I'd go pick up some grade 8 bolts (not the 5's
that came with the hooks). Make sure they match the thread of the
originals, too.
The original torx bolts aren't going to be long enough to use with the
hooks, so it doesn't really matter what their rating is I guess
(although I doubt they are even grade 5).
No, no nuts on the factory bolts.

Don't know if you can install the rear tow hooks to the bottom of the
frame (pointing down). I thought it would decrease my departure angle
(as you mentioned) so I didn't go that route. I *think* I may have
read somewhere that you shouldn't drill into the bottom of a frame
though? I'm not sure.

Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 01:58:11 +1300, "TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n
z> wrote:

>Hi All,
>
>I have just bought four ARB 10k lbs rated tow hooks and before I go and
>start installing them (I have to wait for the cyclone to stop dumping rain
>in Auckland), I just wanted to ask a couple of questions. I have done my
>research on the internet and found a number of links, an example of which
>is:
>http://members.cox.net/rough-riders/..._tow_hooks.htm
>l
>
>Front tow hooks: Am I simply going to remove the top two bolts from each
>side and put the tow hooks and secure them in place? I will be taking that
>eyelet of a tow point off as it is very difficult to put any decent size
>shackle or rope through the hole. I have grade 5 bolts that came with the
>tow hooks, should I use them or just put the factory bolts back on? Whats
>the rating on factory torx bolts? Additionally, when I take the bolts off,
>are there any nuts on the back that might fall off into the frame
>somewhere? If yes, whats the best way to install these hooks and not lose
>the nuts. I do have nuts that came with the hooks as well.
>
>Rear tow hooks: I realise that I will have to probably drill an extra hole
>for each tow hook. However, I just wanted to ask for the best way of
>installing them. I have seen on the internet that people mostly install
>the back hooks on the side of the frame (as shown in the bottom picture on
>the above link). Why can't I drill a hole on the bottom of the frame and
>use one bolt/hole by which the bumper assembly is attached to the frame?
>What about the nut behind that bolt, is it fixed to the frame? I can drill
>a second hole just behind it and install the hook on the bottom facing
>downward. I don't think it will cause any problem with the departure
>angel. I will be taking that eyelet (factory part) off, so it should be
>okay, right? The only thing might be the chances of rope slipping off if
>the hook is facing downward, can I then install rope retaining clips to
>avoid it?
>
>Thanks in advance for all your input.
>TW
>
>



David C. Moller 02-28-2004 03:38 PM

Re: Tow Hooks for 01 TJ
 
Well, for starters, I'd go pick up some grade 8 bolts (not the 5's
that came with the hooks). Make sure they match the thread of the
originals, too.
The original torx bolts aren't going to be long enough to use with the
hooks, so it doesn't really matter what their rating is I guess
(although I doubt they are even grade 5).
No, no nuts on the factory bolts.

Don't know if you can install the rear tow hooks to the bottom of the
frame (pointing down). I thought it would decrease my departure angle
(as you mentioned) so I didn't go that route. I *think* I may have
read somewhere that you shouldn't drill into the bottom of a frame
though? I'm not sure.

Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 01:58:11 +1300, "TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n
z> wrote:

>Hi All,
>
>I have just bought four ARB 10k lbs rated tow hooks and before I go and
>start installing them (I have to wait for the cyclone to stop dumping rain
>in Auckland), I just wanted to ask a couple of questions. I have done my
>research on the internet and found a number of links, an example of which
>is:
>http://members.cox.net/rough-riders/..._tow_hooks.htm
>l
>
>Front tow hooks: Am I simply going to remove the top two bolts from each
>side and put the tow hooks and secure them in place? I will be taking that
>eyelet of a tow point off as it is very difficult to put any decent size
>shackle or rope through the hole. I have grade 5 bolts that came with the
>tow hooks, should I use them or just put the factory bolts back on? Whats
>the rating on factory torx bolts? Additionally, when I take the bolts off,
>are there any nuts on the back that might fall off into the frame
>somewhere? If yes, whats the best way to install these hooks and not lose
>the nuts. I do have nuts that came with the hooks as well.
>
>Rear tow hooks: I realise that I will have to probably drill an extra hole
>for each tow hook. However, I just wanted to ask for the best way of
>installing them. I have seen on the internet that people mostly install
>the back hooks on the side of the frame (as shown in the bottom picture on
>the above link). Why can't I drill a hole on the bottom of the frame and
>use one bolt/hole by which the bumper assembly is attached to the frame?
>What about the nut behind that bolt, is it fixed to the frame? I can drill
>a second hole just behind it and install the hook on the bottom facing
>downward. I don't think it will cause any problem with the departure
>angel. I will be taking that eyelet (factory part) off, so it should be
>okay, right? The only thing might be the chances of rope slipping off if
>the hook is facing downward, can I then install rope retaining clips to
>avoid it?
>
>Thanks in advance for all your input.
>TW
>
>



David C. Moller 02-28-2004 03:38 PM

Re: Tow Hooks for 01 TJ
 
Well, for starters, I'd go pick up some grade 8 bolts (not the 5's
that came with the hooks). Make sure they match the thread of the
originals, too.
The original torx bolts aren't going to be long enough to use with the
hooks, so it doesn't really matter what their rating is I guess
(although I doubt they are even grade 5).
No, no nuts on the factory bolts.

Don't know if you can install the rear tow hooks to the bottom of the
frame (pointing down). I thought it would decrease my departure angle
(as you mentioned) so I didn't go that route. I *think* I may have
read somewhere that you shouldn't drill into the bottom of a frame
though? I'm not sure.

Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 01:58:11 +1300, "TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n
z> wrote:

>Hi All,
>
>I have just bought four ARB 10k lbs rated tow hooks and before I go and
>start installing them (I have to wait for the cyclone to stop dumping rain
>in Auckland), I just wanted to ask a couple of questions. I have done my
>research on the internet and found a number of links, an example of which
>is:
>http://members.cox.net/rough-riders/..._tow_hooks.htm
>l
>
>Front tow hooks: Am I simply going to remove the top two bolts from each
>side and put the tow hooks and secure them in place? I will be taking that
>eyelet of a tow point off as it is very difficult to put any decent size
>shackle or rope through the hole. I have grade 5 bolts that came with the
>tow hooks, should I use them or just put the factory bolts back on? Whats
>the rating on factory torx bolts? Additionally, when I take the bolts off,
>are there any nuts on the back that might fall off into the frame
>somewhere? If yes, whats the best way to install these hooks and not lose
>the nuts. I do have nuts that came with the hooks as well.
>
>Rear tow hooks: I realise that I will have to probably drill an extra hole
>for each tow hook. However, I just wanted to ask for the best way of
>installing them. I have seen on the internet that people mostly install
>the back hooks on the side of the frame (as shown in the bottom picture on
>the above link). Why can't I drill a hole on the bottom of the frame and
>use one bolt/hole by which the bumper assembly is attached to the frame?
>What about the nut behind that bolt, is it fixed to the frame? I can drill
>a second hole just behind it and install the hook on the bottom facing
>downward. I don't think it will cause any problem with the departure
>angel. I will be taking that eyelet (factory part) off, so it should be
>okay, right? The only thing might be the chances of rope slipping off if
>the hook is facing downward, can I then install rope retaining clips to
>avoid it?
>
>Thanks in advance for all your input.
>TW
>
>



TW 02-28-2004 06:26 PM

Re: Tow Hooks for 01 TJ
 
"Casey" <casey3477@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:aj40c.42212$eL2.3179156@twister.southeast.rr. com...
> Straight from the service guide. This is for a 2002, but it is probably

the
> same.
> Good Luck
> http://home.nc.rr.com/thegavettes/towhooks.htm
>


Thanks for that. I am trying to source a store/website that is willing to
ship the service manual to New Zealand. I need the one that is specific to
RHD export models. I have been given a number to call in Belgium by the
Tech Authority. I'll try them.

Cheers,
TW




TW 02-28-2004 06:26 PM

Re: Tow Hooks for 01 TJ
 
"Casey" <casey3477@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:aj40c.42212$eL2.3179156@twister.southeast.rr. com...
> Straight from the service guide. This is for a 2002, but it is probably

the
> same.
> Good Luck
> http://home.nc.rr.com/thegavettes/towhooks.htm
>


Thanks for that. I am trying to source a store/website that is willing to
ship the service manual to New Zealand. I need the one that is specific to
RHD export models. I have been given a number to call in Belgium by the
Tech Authority. I'll try them.

Cheers,
TW




TW 02-28-2004 06:26 PM

Re: Tow Hooks for 01 TJ
 
"Casey" <casey3477@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:aj40c.42212$eL2.3179156@twister.southeast.rr. com...
> Straight from the service guide. This is for a 2002, but it is probably

the
> same.
> Good Luck
> http://home.nc.rr.com/thegavettes/towhooks.htm
>


Thanks for that. I am trying to source a store/website that is willing to
ship the service manual to New Zealand. I need the one that is specific to
RHD export models. I have been given a number to call in Belgium by the
Tech Authority. I'll try them.

Cheers,
TW





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