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Dan 08-29-2003 12:35 PM

Tom woods story
 
I bought a slipyoke kit that was cut and resplined along with a custom
driveshaft. The first night I took out the Jeep the tailshaft broke. He
replaced it with a heavy duty one. I was happy, 6 months goes by my cv joint
goes bad. I had to pay for shipping both ways and he replaced the cv joint
for free, but he charged me $70 to grind the cv joint so it would flex
better or have more room instead of binding up. A year later while on a
trip 800 miles away the cv joint goes bad again, to make this short I spend
the weekend in a campground waiting for another driveshaft that I paid
another $230 plus $60 for shipping. I also had to pay for the towing bill, a
uhaul to my destination, and my tcase was leaking because of the driveshaft
binding up cracked the back half of the case, which I had to pay for. Well
tonight I crawled under the Jeep to find that my bellhousing is cracked
also, this took place about three weeks ago. I know for a fact that it
happend when the driveshaft went, even though I just now discovered it. Tom
woods himself said he would look at the driveshaft (I sent the broke one
back to him when I returned home) to see what happend. He didnt do that
either. So he lied to me. This last one actually came apart, the cv joint
actually split into seperate pieces. Here are some pics, Just telling you
what happened to me.. If you buy one, carry a spare if you do. Trust me.
Dan




Gerald G. McGeorge 08-29-2003 07:42 PM

Re: Tom woods story
 
I ran one of Tom Woods his CV shafts in the rear of my YJ for years and
never had a moments problems with it. When I installed an Atlas II Avalanche
got a replacement from High Angle Driveline. I the sold Tom Woods shaft and
it's been installed on someone else's YJ now for over a year and it's still
going strong.

Have you got some extreme angularity issue or something else going on? Can't
believe otherwise.

"Dan" <Dan2hear@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Y9R3b.37507$J16.1835370@twister.southeast.rr. com...
> The first was a tailshaft, first off and 3 driveshafts in less than 1.5
> years. which I paid over $1200 and he claims that he has quality

driveshafts
> that should last a 100k miles
> not to mention, all the down time, cracked tcase and bellhousing plus

being
> stranded, and he lied to me. you know what tony its people like you who

are
> willing to pay for crap and keep paying for it when all these magazines

and
> vendors say that its so great. If you paid that much money just for a
> driveshaft for a year and half plus all the other money and down time on
> your jeep, maybe you would understand. Or maybe I shouldnt post anything
> and let everyone esle waste their time and money. If his driveshaft

caused
> that damage and its less than a year old and been replaced twice, you dont
> see a problem?? Maybe you need to get off the crack.
>
> Dan
>
>
>
>
> "Tony" <fat_augie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:tocvkv4sg3et2a8god3op89oao8pces47b@4ax.com...
> > You sound like a whiner.
> >
> > He replaced the first shaft with a HD, then 6 months later replaced
> > the CV joint for free. Then, 1.5 years after your original
> > transaction, you have it let loose on ya, and you want him to stand
> > behind it as well as your cracked T-case?
> >
> > You really should lay off the crack, it will kill ya.
> >
> > Tony
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 16:35:35 GMT, "Dan" <Dan2hear@nc.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> > >I bought a slipyoke kit that was cut and resplined along with a custom
> > >driveshaft. The first night I took out the Jeep the tailshaft broke.

He
> > >replaced it with a heavy duty one. I was happy, 6 months goes by my cv

> joint
> > >goes bad. I had to pay for shipping both ways and he replaced the cv

> joint
> > >for free, but he charged me $70 to grind the cv joint so it would flex
> > >better or have more room instead of binding up. A year later while on

a
> > >trip 800 miles away the cv joint goes bad again, to make this short I

> spend
> > >the weekend in a campground waiting for another driveshaft that I paid
> > >another $230 plus $60 for shipping. I also had to pay for the towing

> bill, a
> > >uhaul to my destination, and my tcase was leaking because of the

> driveshaft
> > >binding up cracked the back half of the case, which I had to pay for.

> Well
> > >tonight I crawled under the Jeep to find that my bellhousing is cracked
> > >also, this took place about three weeks ago. I know for a fact that it
> > >happend when the driveshaft went, even though I just now discovered it.

> Tom
> > >woods himself said he would look at the driveshaft (I sent the broke

one
> > >back to him when I returned home) to see what happend. He didnt do

that
> > >either. So he lied to me. This last one actually came apart, the cv

> joint
> > >actually split into seperate pieces. Here are some pics, Just telling

> you
> > >what happened to me.. If you buy one, carry a spare if you do. Trust

me.
> > >Dan
> > >
> > >

> >

>
>




Gerald G. McGeorge 08-29-2003 07:42 PM

Re: Tom woods story
 
I ran one of Tom Woods his CV shafts in the rear of my YJ for years and
never had a moments problems with it. When I installed an Atlas II Avalanche
got a replacement from High Angle Driveline. I the sold Tom Woods shaft and
it's been installed on someone else's YJ now for over a year and it's still
going strong.

Have you got some extreme angularity issue or something else going on? Can't
believe otherwise.

"Dan" <Dan2hear@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Y9R3b.37507$J16.1835370@twister.southeast.rr. com...
> The first was a tailshaft, first off and 3 driveshafts in less than 1.5
> years. which I paid over $1200 and he claims that he has quality

driveshafts
> that should last a 100k miles
> not to mention, all the down time, cracked tcase and bellhousing plus

being
> stranded, and he lied to me. you know what tony its people like you who

are
> willing to pay for crap and keep paying for it when all these magazines

and
> vendors say that its so great. If you paid that much money just for a
> driveshaft for a year and half plus all the other money and down time on
> your jeep, maybe you would understand. Or maybe I shouldnt post anything
> and let everyone esle waste their time and money. If his driveshaft

caused
> that damage and its less than a year old and been replaced twice, you dont
> see a problem?? Maybe you need to get off the crack.
>
> Dan
>
>
>
>
> "Tony" <fat_augie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:tocvkv4sg3et2a8god3op89oao8pces47b@4ax.com...
> > You sound like a whiner.
> >
> > He replaced the first shaft with a HD, then 6 months later replaced
> > the CV joint for free. Then, 1.5 years after your original
> > transaction, you have it let loose on ya, and you want him to stand
> > behind it as well as your cracked T-case?
> >
> > You really should lay off the crack, it will kill ya.
> >
> > Tony
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 16:35:35 GMT, "Dan" <Dan2hear@nc.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> > >I bought a slipyoke kit that was cut and resplined along with a custom
> > >driveshaft. The first night I took out the Jeep the tailshaft broke.

He
> > >replaced it with a heavy duty one. I was happy, 6 months goes by my cv

> joint
> > >goes bad. I had to pay for shipping both ways and he replaced the cv

> joint
> > >for free, but he charged me $70 to grind the cv joint so it would flex
> > >better or have more room instead of binding up. A year later while on

a
> > >trip 800 miles away the cv joint goes bad again, to make this short I

> spend
> > >the weekend in a campground waiting for another driveshaft that I paid
> > >another $230 plus $60 for shipping. I also had to pay for the towing

> bill, a
> > >uhaul to my destination, and my tcase was leaking because of the

> driveshaft
> > >binding up cracked the back half of the case, which I had to pay for.

> Well
> > >tonight I crawled under the Jeep to find that my bellhousing is cracked
> > >also, this took place about three weeks ago. I know for a fact that it
> > >happend when the driveshaft went, even though I just now discovered it.

> Tom
> > >woods himself said he would look at the driveshaft (I sent the broke

one
> > >back to him when I returned home) to see what happend. He didnt do

that
> > >either. So he lied to me. This last one actually came apart, the cv

> joint
> > >actually split into seperate pieces. Here are some pics, Just telling

> you
> > >what happened to me.. If you buy one, carry a spare if you do. Trust

me.
> > >Dan
> > >
> > >

> >

>
>




Jerry Bransford 08-29-2003 09:04 PM

Re: Tom woods story
 
My TW CV driveshaft is doing well after four years of HARD use. By the way,
his name is Tom Wood, not Tom Woods.... minor point. :)

Jerry

--
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:vkvpdp4d3hdo75@corp.supernews.com...
> I ran one of Tom Woods his CV shafts in the rear of my YJ for years and
> never had a moments problems with it. When I installed an Atlas II

Avalanche
> got a replacement from High Angle Driveline. I the sold Tom Woods shaft

and
> it's been installed on someone else's YJ now for over a year and it's

still
> going strong.
>
> Have you got some extreme angularity issue or something else going on?

Can't
> believe otherwise.
>
> "Dan" <Dan2hear@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:Y9R3b.37507$J16.1835370@twister.southeast.rr. com...
> > The first was a tailshaft, first off and 3 driveshafts in less than 1.5
> > years. which I paid over $1200 and he claims that he has quality

> driveshafts
> > that should last a 100k miles
> > not to mention, all the down time, cracked tcase and bellhousing plus

> being
> > stranded, and he lied to me. you know what tony its people like you who

> are
> > willing to pay for crap and keep paying for it when all these magazines

> and
> > vendors say that its so great. If you paid that much money just for a
> > driveshaft for a year and half plus all the other money and down time on
> > your jeep, maybe you would understand. Or maybe I shouldnt post

anything
> > and let everyone esle waste their time and money. If his driveshaft

> caused
> > that damage and its less than a year old and been replaced twice, you

dont
> > see a problem?? Maybe you need to get off the crack.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Tony" <fat_augie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:tocvkv4sg3et2a8god3op89oao8pces47b@4ax.com...
> > > You sound like a whiner.
> > >
> > > He replaced the first shaft with a HD, then 6 months later replaced
> > > the CV joint for free. Then, 1.5 years after your original
> > > transaction, you have it let loose on ya, and you want him to stand
> > > behind it as well as your cracked T-case?
> > >
> > > You really should lay off the crack, it will kill ya.
> > >
> > > Tony
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 16:35:35 GMT, "Dan" <Dan2hear@nc.rr.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >I bought a slipyoke kit that was cut and resplined along with a

custom
> > > >driveshaft. The first night I took out the Jeep the tailshaft broke.

> He
> > > >replaced it with a heavy duty one. I was happy, 6 months goes by my

cv
> > joint
> > > >goes bad. I had to pay for shipping both ways and he replaced the cv

> > joint
> > > >for free, but he charged me $70 to grind the cv joint so it would

flex
> > > >better or have more room instead of binding up. A year later while

on
> a
> > > >trip 800 miles away the cv joint goes bad again, to make this short I

> > spend
> > > >the weekend in a campground waiting for another driveshaft that I

paid
> > > >another $230 plus $60 for shipping. I also had to pay for the towing

> > bill, a
> > > >uhaul to my destination, and my tcase was leaking because of the

> > driveshaft
> > > >binding up cracked the back half of the case, which I had to pay for.

> > Well
> > > >tonight I crawled under the Jeep to find that my bellhousing is

cracked
> > > >also, this took place about three weeks ago. I know for a fact that

it
> > > >happend when the driveshaft went, even though I just now discovered

it.
> > Tom
> > > >woods himself said he would look at the driveshaft (I sent the broke

> one
> > > >back to him when I returned home) to see what happend. He didnt do

> that
> > > >either. So he lied to me. This last one actually came apart, the

cv
> > joint
> > > >actually split into seperate pieces. Here are some pics, Just

telling
> > you
> > > >what happened to me.. If you buy one, carry a spare if you do. Trust

> me.
> > > >Dan
> > > >
> > > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Jerry Bransford 08-29-2003 09:04 PM

Re: Tom woods story
 
My TW CV driveshaft is doing well after four years of HARD use. By the way,
his name is Tom Wood, not Tom Woods.... minor point. :)

Jerry

--
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:vkvpdp4d3hdo75@corp.supernews.com...
> I ran one of Tom Woods his CV shafts in the rear of my YJ for years and
> never had a moments problems with it. When I installed an Atlas II

Avalanche
> got a replacement from High Angle Driveline. I the sold Tom Woods shaft

and
> it's been installed on someone else's YJ now for over a year and it's

still
> going strong.
>
> Have you got some extreme angularity issue or something else going on?

Can't
> believe otherwise.
>
> "Dan" <Dan2hear@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:Y9R3b.37507$J16.1835370@twister.southeast.rr. com...
> > The first was a tailshaft, first off and 3 driveshafts in less than 1.5
> > years. which I paid over $1200 and he claims that he has quality

> driveshafts
> > that should last a 100k miles
> > not to mention, all the down time, cracked tcase and bellhousing plus

> being
> > stranded, and he lied to me. you know what tony its people like you who

> are
> > willing to pay for crap and keep paying for it when all these magazines

> and
> > vendors say that its so great. If you paid that much money just for a
> > driveshaft for a year and half plus all the other money and down time on
> > your jeep, maybe you would understand. Or maybe I shouldnt post

anything
> > and let everyone esle waste their time and money. If his driveshaft

> caused
> > that damage and its less than a year old and been replaced twice, you

dont
> > see a problem?? Maybe you need to get off the crack.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Tony" <fat_augie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:tocvkv4sg3et2a8god3op89oao8pces47b@4ax.com...
> > > You sound like a whiner.
> > >
> > > He replaced the first shaft with a HD, then 6 months later replaced
> > > the CV joint for free. Then, 1.5 years after your original
> > > transaction, you have it let loose on ya, and you want him to stand
> > > behind it as well as your cracked T-case?
> > >
> > > You really should lay off the crack, it will kill ya.
> > >
> > > Tony
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 16:35:35 GMT, "Dan" <Dan2hear@nc.rr.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >I bought a slipyoke kit that was cut and resplined along with a

custom
> > > >driveshaft. The first night I took out the Jeep the tailshaft broke.

> He
> > > >replaced it with a heavy duty one. I was happy, 6 months goes by my

cv
> > joint
> > > >goes bad. I had to pay for shipping both ways and he replaced the cv

> > joint
> > > >for free, but he charged me $70 to grind the cv joint so it would

flex
> > > >better or have more room instead of binding up. A year later while

on
> a
> > > >trip 800 miles away the cv joint goes bad again, to make this short I

> > spend
> > > >the weekend in a campground waiting for another driveshaft that I

paid
> > > >another $230 plus $60 for shipping. I also had to pay for the towing

> > bill, a
> > > >uhaul to my destination, and my tcase was leaking because of the

> > driveshaft
> > > >binding up cracked the back half of the case, which I had to pay for.

> > Well
> > > >tonight I crawled under the Jeep to find that my bellhousing is

cracked
> > > >also, this took place about three weeks ago. I know for a fact that

it
> > > >happend when the driveshaft went, even though I just now discovered

it.
> > Tom
> > > >woods himself said he would look at the driveshaft (I sent the broke

> one
> > > >back to him when I returned home) to see what happend. He didnt do

> that
> > > >either. So he lied to me. This last one actually came apart, the

cv
> > joint
> > > >actually split into seperate pieces. Here are some pics, Just

telling
> > you
> > > >what happened to me.. If you buy one, carry a spare if you do. Trust

> me.
> > > >Dan
> > > >
> > > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Harold Hoover 08-30-2003 01:02 AM

Re: Tom woods story
 
-Sorry to hear about your bad experience.

Thank you for the heads up.

--
Harold J. Hoover

1984 CJ-7
guyloginin@earth*link.net - (Remove * to reply)
http://home.earthlink.net/~guyloginin/Jeep.html
Sedona, AZ USA

Harold Hoover 08-30-2003 01:02 AM

Re: Tom woods story
 
-Sorry to hear about your bad experience.

Thank you for the heads up.

--
Harold J. Hoover

1984 CJ-7
guyloginin@earth*link.net - (Remove * to reply)
http://home.earthlink.net/~guyloginin/Jeep.html
Sedona, AZ USA

Dan 08-30-2003 03:05 AM

Re: Tom woods story
 
let me say this,
I do have a belly up skid plate, obvisouly you have to give them the
measurements and angles so they can build one hence custom driveshaft. If
that was a problem on the first one that broke and they charged me $70 to
grind it so that would solve the problem I can understand it. On the last
one though it did so much damage and cost me so much money and he knew there
was an angle problem because of the skid plate. Dont you think that he
should have mentioned this. Then he told me that he doesnt sell another
cvjoint that could solve the problem. Here is my point if he knew and had
all the original measurements and and angles dont you think that he should
have said something. He told me that the problem is the belly up skid
plate, so if he knew this from the begining why did he take my money knowing
that it wouldnt work. At first he really did take care of the issue with
the broken tailshaft for the slipyoke kit, he really went out of his way
actually. I just cant believe that he knew the angle was to much and when I
tried to get a driveshaft that could take the angle he explained they dont
have one. I guess I could be whining, but after all that money and no
driveshaft thats worth a crap to me, wouldnt you feel ripped off.
Dan

"Harold Hoover" <guyloginin@earth*link.net> wrote in message
news:YdW3b.1615$tw6.146@newsread4.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> -Sorry to hear about your bad experience.
>
> Thank you for the heads up.
>
> --
> Harold J. Hoover
>
> 1984 CJ-7
> guyloginin@earth*link.net - (Remove * to reply)
> http://home.earthlink.net/~guyloginin/Jeep.html
> Sedona, AZ USA




Dan 08-30-2003 03:05 AM

Re: Tom woods story
 
let me say this,
I do have a belly up skid plate, obvisouly you have to give them the
measurements and angles so they can build one hence custom driveshaft. If
that was a problem on the first one that broke and they charged me $70 to
grind it so that would solve the problem I can understand it. On the last
one though it did so much damage and cost me so much money and he knew there
was an angle problem because of the skid plate. Dont you think that he
should have mentioned this. Then he told me that he doesnt sell another
cvjoint that could solve the problem. Here is my point if he knew and had
all the original measurements and and angles dont you think that he should
have said something. He told me that the problem is the belly up skid
plate, so if he knew this from the begining why did he take my money knowing
that it wouldnt work. At first he really did take care of the issue with
the broken tailshaft for the slipyoke kit, he really went out of his way
actually. I just cant believe that he knew the angle was to much and when I
tried to get a driveshaft that could take the angle he explained they dont
have one. I guess I could be whining, but after all that money and no
driveshaft thats worth a crap to me, wouldnt you feel ripped off.
Dan

"Harold Hoover" <guyloginin@earth*link.net> wrote in message
news:YdW3b.1615$tw6.146@newsread4.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> -Sorry to hear about your bad experience.
>
> Thank you for the heads up.
>
> --
> Harold J. Hoover
>
> 1984 CJ-7
> guyloginin@earth*link.net - (Remove * to reply)
> http://home.earthlink.net/~guyloginin/Jeep.html
> Sedona, AZ USA




Foot Loose 08-30-2003 08:45 AM

Re: Tom woods story
 
for the past 3 years I have one of his CV shafts on my YJ and have never had
a problem with it. I think you are an isolated case or more is going on than
you are saying with your rig.


Scott
90YJ

"Dan" <Dan2hear@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:z0Y3b.39291$J16.1913773@twister.southeast.rr. com...
> let me say this,
> I do have a belly up skid plate, obvisouly you have to give them the
> measurements and angles so they can build one hence custom driveshaft. If
> that was a problem on the first one that broke and they charged me $70 to
> grind it so that would solve the problem I can understand it. On the last
> one though it did so much damage and cost me so much money and he knew

there
> was an angle problem because of the skid plate. Dont you think that he
> should have mentioned this. Then he told me that he doesnt sell another
> cvjoint that could solve the problem. Here is my point if he knew and had
> all the original measurements and and angles dont you think that he should
> have said something. He told me that the problem is the belly up skid
> plate, so if he knew this from the begining why did he take my money

knowing
> that it wouldnt work. At first he really did take care of the issue

with
> the broken tailshaft for the slipyoke kit, he really went out of his way
> actually. I just cant believe that he knew the angle was to much and when

I
> tried to get a driveshaft that could take the angle he explained they dont
> have one. I guess I could be whining, but after all that money and no
> driveshaft thats worth a crap to me, wouldnt you feel ripped off.
> Dan
>
> "Harold Hoover" <guyloginin@earth*link.net> wrote in message
> news:YdW3b.1615$tw6.146@newsread4.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> > -Sorry to hear about your bad experience.
> >
> > Thank you for the heads up.
> >
> > --
> > Harold J. Hoover
> >
> > 1984 CJ-7
> > guyloginin@earth*link.net - (Remove * to reply)
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~guyloginin/Jeep.html
> > Sedona, AZ USA

>
>





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