TJ available with ABS?
 

Hi guys,
I'm looking for a TJ for my daughter, and I'm wondering how many of them
came with ABS.
Thanks
--
Pete
'84 CJ-7 with a bunch of engine mods. Looks pretty stock from the outside.
'04 Audi S4, bone stock.

Re: TJ available with ABS?
 

ABS was an available option, you'd have to check the build sheet of what you
are looking at, or check for the tone rings & sensor wires on the front
axle, or the ABS controller under the hood.

"Pete Stolz" <peachyracer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:n6Gdh.25574$qO4.21716@newssvr13.news.prodigy. net...
> Hi guys,
> I'm looking for a TJ for my daughter, and I'm wondering how many of them
> came with ABS.
> Thanks
> --
> Pete
> '84 CJ-7 with a bunch of engine mods. Looks pretty stock from the
> outside.
> '04 Audi S4, bone stock.
>

Re: TJ available with ABS?
 

ABS was an available option, you'd have to check the build sheet of what you
are looking at, or check for the tone rings & sensor wires on the front
axle, or the ABS controller under the hood.

"Pete Stolz" <peachyracer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:n6Gdh.25574$qO4.21716@newssvr13.news.prodigy. net...
> Hi guys,
> I'm looking for a TJ for my daughter, and I'm wondering how many of them
> came with ABS.
> Thanks
> --
> Pete
> '84 CJ-7 with a bunch of engine mods. Looks pretty stock from the
> outside.
> '04 Audi S4, bone stock.
>

Re: TJ available with ABS?
 

ABS was an available option, you'd have to check the build sheet of what you
are looking at, or check for the tone rings & sensor wires on the front
axle, or the ABS controller under the hood.

"Pete Stolz" <peachyracer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:n6Gdh.25574$qO4.21716@newssvr13.news.prodigy. net...
> Hi guys,
> I'm looking for a TJ for my daughter, and I'm wondering how many of them
> came with ABS.
> Thanks
> --
> Pete
> '84 CJ-7 with a bunch of engine mods. Looks pretty stock from the
> outside.
> '04 Audi S4, bone stock.
>

Re: TJ available with ABS?
 

On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 19:30:27 -0500, "Matt Macchiarolo"
<matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:

>ABS was an available option, you'd have to check the build sheet of what you
>are looking at, or check for the tone rings & sensor wires on the front
>axle, or the ABS controller under the hood.
>

And make sure they didn't install an aftermarket axle that didn't
allow for the ABS hardware :/
(But if they did, IIRC, the dashboard warning light would be on all
the time.)

....

>"Pete Stolz" <peachyracer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:n6Gdh.25574$qO4.21716@newssvr13.news.prodigy .net...
>> Hi guys,
>> I'm looking for a TJ for my daughter, and I'm wondering how many of them
>> came with ABS.
>> Thanks
>> --
>> Pete
>> '84 CJ-7 with a bunch of engine mods. Looks pretty stock from the
>> outside.
>> '04 Audi S4, bone stock.
>>
>

Re: TJ available with ABS?
 

On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 19:30:27 -0500, "Matt Macchiarolo"
<matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:

>ABS was an available option, you'd have to check the build sheet of what you
>are looking at, or check for the tone rings & sensor wires on the front
>axle, or the ABS controller under the hood.
>

And make sure they didn't install an aftermarket axle that didn't
allow for the ABS hardware :/
(But if they did, IIRC, the dashboard warning light would be on all
the time.)

....

>"Pete Stolz" <peachyracer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:n6Gdh.25574$qO4.21716@newssvr13.news.prodigy .net...
>> Hi guys,
>> I'm looking for a TJ for my daughter, and I'm wondering how many of them
>> came with ABS.
>> Thanks
>> --
>> Pete
>> '84 CJ-7 with a bunch of engine mods. Looks pretty stock from the
>> outside.
>> '04 Audi S4, bone stock.
>>
>

Re: TJ available with ABS?
 

On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 19:30:27 -0500, "Matt Macchiarolo"
<matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:

>ABS was an available option, you'd have to check the build sheet of what you
>are looking at, or check for the tone rings & sensor wires on the front
>axle, or the ABS controller under the hood.
>

And make sure they didn't install an aftermarket axle that didn't
allow for the ABS hardware :/
(But if they did, IIRC, the dashboard warning light would be on all
the time.)

....

>"Pete Stolz" <peachyracer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:n6Gdh.25574$qO4.21716@newssvr13.news.prodigy .net...
>> Hi guys,
>> I'm looking for a TJ for my daughter, and I'm wondering how many of them
>> came with ABS.
>> Thanks
>> --
>> Pete
>> '84 CJ-7 with a bunch of engine mods. Looks pretty stock from the
>> outside.
>> '04 Audi S4, bone stock.
>>
>

Re: TJ available with ABS?
 

Unless it was a Dynatrac axle. (Oh boy am I opening a can o' worms. Thank
God I killfiled Bill H.)

"noneofyourbusiness" <top.secret@needtoknow.org> wrote in message
news:m4pen2ljbp3j5ufrsd8hnqe7al1p17rtsr@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 19:30:27 -0500, "Matt Macchiarolo"
> <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>
>>ABS was an available option, you'd have to check the build sheet of what
>>you
>>are looking at, or check for the tone rings & sensor wires on the front
>>axle, or the ABS controller under the hood.
>>
>
> And make sure they didn't install an aftermarket axle that didn't
> allow for the ABS hardware :/
> (But if they did, IIRC, the dashboard warning light would be on all
> the time.)
>
> ...
>
>>"Pete Stolz" <peachyracer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:n6Gdh.25574$qO4.21716@newssvr13.news.prodig y.net...
>>> Hi guys,
>>> I'm looking for a TJ for my daughter, and I'm wondering how many of them
>>> came with ABS.
>>> Thanks
>>> --
>>> Pete
>>> '84 CJ-7 with a bunch of engine mods. Looks pretty stock from the
>>> outside.
>>> '04 Audi S4, bone stock.
>>>
>>

Re: TJ available with ABS?
 

Unless it was a Dynatrac axle. (Oh boy am I opening a can o' worms. Thank
God I killfiled Bill H.)

"noneofyourbusiness" <top.secret@needtoknow.org> wrote in message
news:m4pen2ljbp3j5ufrsd8hnqe7al1p17rtsr@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 19:30:27 -0500, "Matt Macchiarolo"
> <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>
>>ABS was an available option, you'd have to check the build sheet of what
>>you
>>are looking at, or check for the tone rings & sensor wires on the front
>>axle, or the ABS controller under the hood.
>>
>
> And make sure they didn't install an aftermarket axle that didn't
> allow for the ABS hardware :/
> (But if they did, IIRC, the dashboard warning light would be on all
> the time.)
>
> ...
>
>>"Pete Stolz" <peachyracer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:n6Gdh.25574$qO4.21716@newssvr13.news.prodig y.net...
>>> Hi guys,
>>> I'm looking for a TJ for my daughter, and I'm wondering how many of them
>>> came with ABS.
>>> Thanks
>>> --
>>> Pete
>>> '84 CJ-7 with a bunch of engine mods. Looks pretty stock from the
>>> outside.
>>> '04 Audi S4, bone stock.
>>>
>>

Re: TJ available with ABS?
 

Unless it was a Dynatrac axle. (Oh boy am I opening a can o' worms. Thank
God I killfiled Bill H.)

"noneofyourbusiness" <top.secret@needtoknow.org> wrote in message
news:m4pen2ljbp3j5ufrsd8hnqe7al1p17rtsr@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 19:30:27 -0500, "Matt Macchiarolo"
> <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>
>>ABS was an available option, you'd have to check the build sheet of what
>>you
>>are looking at, or check for the tone rings & sensor wires on the front
>>axle, or the ABS controller under the hood.
>>
>
> And make sure they didn't install an aftermarket axle that didn't
> allow for the ABS hardware :/
> (But if they did, IIRC, the dashboard warning light would be on all
> the time.)
>
> ...
>
>>"Pete Stolz" <peachyracer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:n6Gdh.25574$qO4.21716@newssvr13.news.prodig y.net...
>>> Hi guys,
>>> I'm looking for a TJ for my daughter, and I'm wondering how many of them
>>> came with ABS.
>>> Thanks
>>> --
>>> Pete
>>> '84 CJ-7 with a bunch of engine mods. Looks pretty stock from the
>>> outside.
>>> '04 Audi S4, bone stock.
>>>
>>

Re: TJ available with ABS?
 

So they are in fact available. I did an AutoTrader search on 'em and only a
few came up with my search criteria. I didn't know if those few were
actuals or if they were mistakes in the description because almost
EVERYTHING comes with ABS now and has for a while. Thanks guys.
--
Pete
'84 CJ-7 with a bunch of engine mods. Looks pretty stock from the outside.
'04 Audi S4, bone stock.


"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:1eydndYn3IwH_erYnZ2dnUVZ_tOmnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> ABS was an available option, you'd have to check the build sheet of what
> you are looking at, or check for the tone rings & sensor wires on the
> front axle, or the ABS controller under the hood.
>
> "Pete Stolz" <peachyracer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:n6Gdh.25574$qO4.21716@newssvr13.news.prodigy. net...
>> Hi guys,
>> I'm looking for a TJ for my daughter, and I'm wondering how many of them
>> came with ABS.
>> Thanks
>> --
>> Pete
>> '84 CJ-7 with a bunch of engine mods. Looks pretty stock from the
>> outside.
>> '04 Audi S4, bone stock.
>>
>
>

Re: TJ available with ABS?
 

So they are in fact available. I did an AutoTrader search on 'em and only a
few came up with my search criteria. I didn't know if those few were
actuals or if they were mistakes in the description because almost
EVERYTHING comes with ABS now and has for a while. Thanks guys.
--
Pete
'84 CJ-7 with a bunch of engine mods. Looks pretty stock from the outside.
'04 Audi S4, bone stock.


"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:1eydndYn3IwH_erYnZ2dnUVZ_tOmnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> ABS was an available option, you'd have to check the build sheet of what
> you are looking at, or check for the tone rings & sensor wires on the
> front axle, or the ABS controller under the hood.
>
> "Pete Stolz" <peachyracer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:n6Gdh.25574$qO4.21716@newssvr13.news.prodigy. net...
>> Hi guys,
>> I'm looking for a TJ for my daughter, and I'm wondering how many of them
>> came with ABS.
>> Thanks
>> --
>> Pete
>> '84 CJ-7 with a bunch of engine mods. Looks pretty stock from the
>> outside.
>> '04 Audi S4, bone stock.
>>
>
>

Re: TJ available with ABS?
 

So they are in fact available. I did an AutoTrader search on 'em and only a
few came up with my search criteria. I didn't know if those few were
actuals or if they were mistakes in the description because almost
EVERYTHING comes with ABS now and has for a while. Thanks guys.
--
Pete
'84 CJ-7 with a bunch of engine mods. Looks pretty stock from the outside.
'04 Audi S4, bone stock.


"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:1eydndYn3IwH_erYnZ2dnUVZ_tOmnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> ABS was an available option, you'd have to check the build sheet of what
> you are looking at, or check for the tone rings & sensor wires on the
> front axle, or the ABS controller under the hood.
>
> "Pete Stolz" <peachyracer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:n6Gdh.25574$qO4.21716@newssvr13.news.prodigy. net...
>> Hi guys,
>> I'm looking for a TJ for my daughter, and I'm wondering how many of them
>> came with ABS.
>> Thanks
>> --
>> Pete
>> '84 CJ-7 with a bunch of engine mods. Looks pretty stock from the
>> outside.
>> '04 Audi S4, bone stock.
>>
>
>

Re: TJ available with ABS?
 

Pete Stolz wrote:
> So they are in fact available. I did an AutoTrader search on 'em and only a
> few came up with my search criteria. I didn't know if those few were
> actuals or if they were mistakes in the description because almost
> EVERYTHING comes with ABS now and has for a while. Thanks guys.

Most people won't even know they have it. You might be eliminating some
nice Jeeps in your search criteria method.

tw
--
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

Re: TJ available with ABS?
 

Pete Stolz wrote:
> So they are in fact available. I did an AutoTrader search on 'em and only a
> few came up with my search criteria. I didn't know if those few were
> actuals or if they were mistakes in the description because almost
> EVERYTHING comes with ABS now and has for a while. Thanks guys.

Most people won't even know they have it. You might be eliminating some
nice Jeeps in your search criteria method.

tw
--
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

Re: TJ available with ABS?
 

Pete Stolz wrote:
> So they are in fact available. I did an AutoTrader search on 'em and only a
> few came up with my search criteria. I didn't know if those few were
> actuals or if they were mistakes in the description because almost
> EVERYTHING comes with ABS now and has for a while. Thanks guys.

Most people won't even know they have it. You might be eliminating some
nice Jeeps in your search criteria method.

tw
--
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

Re: TJ available with ABS?
 

Oh, I'm sure you are right, but like I said in my original post, this is for
my daughter. She's a newby driver and we live in Wisconsin. She will be
taking this thing to school every day and I need to know she's driving
something that will stop as efficiently as possible. New drivers (actually
most drivers) don't have the sensitivity and presence of mind to NOT just
"lock 'em up" in an emergency stop. They just panic, jam on the brakes and
pray. ABS gives those prayers a better chance of being answered. Don't
want to have to test the airbag system! :)
Pete



"twaldron" <twaldron@OBVIOUSspam.com> wrote in message
news:3DWdh.170$5h.49@trnddc04...
> Pete Stolz wrote:
>> So they are in fact available. I did an AutoTrader search on 'em and
>> only a few came up with my search criteria. I didn't know if those few
>> were actuals or if they were mistakes in the description because almost
>> EVERYTHING comes with ABS now and has for a while. Thanks guys.
>
> Most people won't even know they have it. You might be eliminating some
> nice Jeeps in your search criteria method.
>
> tw
> --
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> __________________________________________________ ___________________

Re: TJ available with ABS?
 

Oh, I'm sure you are right, but like I said in my original post, this is for
my daughter. She's a newby driver and we live in Wisconsin. She will be
taking this thing to school every day and I need to know she's driving
something that will stop as efficiently as possible. New drivers (actually
most drivers) don't have the sensitivity and presence of mind to NOT just
"lock 'em up" in an emergency stop. They just panic, jam on the brakes and
pray. ABS gives those prayers a better chance of being answered. Don't
want to have to test the airbag system! :)
Pete



"twaldron" <twaldron@OBVIOUSspam.com> wrote in message
news:3DWdh.170$5h.49@trnddc04...
> Pete Stolz wrote:
>> So they are in fact available. I did an AutoTrader search on 'em and
>> only a few came up with my search criteria. I didn't know if those few
>> were actuals or if they were mistakes in the description because almost
>> EVERYTHING comes with ABS now and has for a while. Thanks guys.
>
> Most people won't even know they have it. You might be eliminating some
> nice Jeeps in your search criteria method.
>
> tw
> --
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> __________________________________________________ ___________________

Re: TJ available with ABS?
 

Oh, I'm sure you are right, but like I said in my original post, this is for
my daughter. She's a newby driver and we live in Wisconsin. She will be
taking this thing to school every day and I need to know she's driving
something that will stop as efficiently as possible. New drivers (actually
most drivers) don't have the sensitivity and presence of mind to NOT just
"lock 'em up" in an emergency stop. They just panic, jam on the brakes and
pray. ABS gives those prayers a better chance of being answered. Don't
want to have to test the airbag system! :)
Pete



"twaldron" <twaldron@OBVIOUSspam.com> wrote in message
news:3DWdh.170$5h.49@trnddc04...
> Pete Stolz wrote:
>> So they are in fact available. I did an AutoTrader search on 'em and
>> only a few came up with my search criteria. I didn't know if those few
>> were actuals or if they were mistakes in the description because almost
>> EVERYTHING comes with ABS now and has for a while. Thanks guys.
>
> Most people won't even know they have it. You might be eliminating some
> nice Jeeps in your search criteria method.
>
> tw
> --
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> __________________________________________________ ___________________

Re: TJ available with ABS?
 

Pete Stolz wrote:
> Oh, I'm sure you are right, but like I said in my original post, this
> is for my daughter. She's a newby driver and we live in Wisconsin. She will be taking this thing to school every day and I need
> to know
> she's driving something that will stop as efficiently as possible. New drivers (actually most drivers) don't have the sensitivity
> and
> presence of mind to NOT just "lock 'em up" in an emergency stop. They just panic, jam on the brakes and pray. ABS gives those
> prayers
> a better chance of being answered. Don't want to have to test the
> airbag system! :)

There is an other end to that. Drivers that aren't aware of what
ABS feels like (Buzzzzzzzzzzzz) when it kicks in are likely to let
off the brake. My suggestion is what ever vehicle you do get, take
the time to go to a dirt/gravel spot and practice emergency stops.

ABS won't necessarily stop you faster. What ABS does is let you
maintain steering control while your skittering to a stop.

I can stop faster in a straight line without ABS, especially
in loose dirt/gravel/snow because the debris pile up in front
of the tire and the vehicle digs-in. While on ice where ABS
shines, it basically allows you to pick where your going to
hit. :/

--
DougW

Re: TJ available with ABS?
 

Pete Stolz wrote:
> Oh, I'm sure you are right, but like I said in my original post, this
> is for my daughter. She's a newby driver and we live in Wisconsin. She will be taking this thing to school every day and I need
> to know
> she's driving something that will stop as efficiently as possible. New drivers (actually most drivers) don't have the sensitivity
> and
> presence of mind to NOT just "lock 'em up" in an emergency stop. They just panic, jam on the brakes and pray. ABS gives those
> prayers
> a better chance of being answered. Don't want to have to test the
> airbag system! :)

There is an other end to that. Drivers that aren't aware of what
ABS feels like (Buzzzzzzzzzzzz) when it kicks in are likely to let
off the brake. My suggestion is what ever vehicle you do get, take
the time to go to a dirt/gravel spot and practice emergency stops.

ABS won't necessarily stop you faster. What ABS does is let you
maintain steering control while your skittering to a stop.

I can stop faster in a straight line without ABS, especially
in loose dirt/gravel/snow because the debris pile up in front
of the tire and the vehicle digs-in. While on ice where ABS
shines, it basically allows you to pick where your going to
hit. :/

--
DougW

Re: TJ available with ABS?
 

Pete Stolz wrote:
> Oh, I'm sure you are right, but like I said in my original post, this
> is for my daughter. She's a newby driver and we live in Wisconsin. She will be taking this thing to school every day and I need
> to know
> she's driving something that will stop as efficiently as possible. New drivers (actually most drivers) don't have the sensitivity
> and
> presence of mind to NOT just "lock 'em up" in an emergency stop. They just panic, jam on the brakes and pray. ABS gives those
> prayers
> a better chance of being answered. Don't want to have to test the
> airbag system! :)

There is an other end to that. Drivers that aren't aware of what
ABS feels like (Buzzzzzzzzzzzz) when it kicks in are likely to let
off the brake. My suggestion is what ever vehicle you do get, take
the time to go to a dirt/gravel spot and practice emergency stops.

ABS won't necessarily stop you faster. What ABS does is let you
maintain steering control while your skittering to a stop.

I can stop faster in a straight line without ABS, especially
in loose dirt/gravel/snow because the debris pile up in front
of the tire and the vehicle digs-in. While on ice where ABS
shines, it basically allows you to pick where your going to
hit. :/

--
DougW

Re: TJ available with ABS?
 

I was just saying that by using "ABS" as a keyword in your search, you
might be missing some nice Jeeps that _DO HAVE_ ABS because the owner
just didn't list it, or even know it was on the Jeep. Also, ABS has
become so standard on so many vehicles, ads just don't necessarily list
them as an option.

tw

Pete Stolz wrote:
> Oh, I'm sure you are right, but like I said in my original post, this is for
> my daughter. She's a newby driver and we live in Wisconsin. She will be
> taking this thing to school every day and I need to know she's driving
> something that will stop as efficiently as possible. New drivers (actually
> most drivers) don't have the sensitivity and presence of mind to NOT just
> "lock 'em up" in an emergency stop. They just panic, jam on the brakes and
> pray. ABS gives those prayers a better chance of being answered. Don't
> want to have to test the airbag system! :)
> Pete
>
> "twaldron" <twaldron@OBVIOUSspam.com> wrote in message
> news:3DWdh.170$5h.49@trnddc04...
>>
>>Most people won't even know they have it. You might be eliminating some
>>nice Jeeps in your search criteria method.
>>
>>tw
>>--


--
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

Re: TJ available with ABS?
 

I was just saying that by using "ABS" as a keyword in your search, you
might be missing some nice Jeeps that _DO HAVE_ ABS because the owner
just didn't list it, or even know it was on the Jeep. Also, ABS has
become so standard on so many vehicles, ads just don't necessarily list
them as an option.

tw

Pete Stolz wrote:
> Oh, I'm sure you are right, but like I said in my original post, this is for
> my daughter. She's a newby driver and we live in Wisconsin. She will be
> taking this thing to school every day and I need to know she's driving
> something that will stop as efficiently as possible. New drivers (actually
> most drivers) don't have the sensitivity and presence of mind to NOT just
> "lock 'em up" in an emergency stop. They just panic, jam on the brakes and
> pray. ABS gives those prayers a better chance of being answered. Don't
> want to have to test the airbag system! :)
> Pete
>
> "twaldron" <twaldron@OBVIOUSspam.com> wrote in message
> news:3DWdh.170$5h.49@trnddc04...
>>
>>Most people won't even know they have it. You might be eliminating some
>>nice Jeeps in your search criteria method.
>>
>>tw
>>--


--
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

Re: TJ available with ABS?
 

I was just saying that by using "ABS" as a keyword in your search, you
might be missing some nice Jeeps that _DO HAVE_ ABS because the owner
just didn't list it, or even know it was on the Jeep. Also, ABS has
become so standard on so many vehicles, ads just don't necessarily list
them as an option.

tw

Pete Stolz wrote:
> Oh, I'm sure you are right, but like I said in my original post, this is for
> my daughter. She's a newby driver and we live in Wisconsin. She will be
> taking this thing to school every day and I need to know she's driving
> something that will stop as efficiently as possible. New drivers (actually
> most drivers) don't have the sensitivity and presence of mind to NOT just
> "lock 'em up" in an emergency stop. They just panic, jam on the brakes and
> pray. ABS gives those prayers a better chance of being answered. Don't
> want to have to test the airbag system! :)
> Pete
>
> "twaldron" <twaldron@OBVIOUSspam.com> wrote in message
> news:3DWdh.170$5h.49@trnddc04...
>>
>>Most people won't even know they have it. You might be eliminating some
>>nice Jeeps in your search criteria method.
>>
>>tw
>>--


--
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

Re: TJ available with ABS?
 

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:JM_dh.4254$Rj.1642@newsfe19.lga...
> Pete Stolz wrote:
>> Oh, I'm sure you are right, but like I said in my original post, this
>> is for my daughter. She's a newby driver and we live in Wisconsin. She
>> will be taking this thing to school every day and I need to know
>> she's driving something that will stop as efficiently as possible. New
>> drivers (actually most drivers) don't have the sensitivity and
>> presence of mind to NOT just "lock 'em up" in an emergency stop. They
>> just panic, jam on the brakes and pray. ABS gives those prayers
>> a better chance of being answered. Don't want to have to test the
>> airbag system! :)
>
> There is an other end to that. Drivers that aren't aware of what
> ABS feels like (Buzzzzzzzzzzzz) when it kicks in are likely to let
> off the brake. My suggestion is what ever vehicle you do get, take
> the time to go to a dirt/gravel spot and practice emergency stops.
>
> ABS won't necessarily stop you faster. What ABS does is let you
> maintain steering control while your skittering to a stop.
>
> I can stop faster in a straight line without ABS, especially
> in loose dirt/gravel/snow because the debris pile up in front
> of the tire and the vehicle digs-in. While on ice where ABS
> shines, it basically allows you to pick where your going to
> hit. :/
>
> --
> DougW

Couldn't agree more. Technically, if you've practiced it enough and have
developed a good sensitivity to lock up, you can beat ABS, especially on dry
pavement. Practicing that has a tendancy to square off your tires though.
We do a braking exercise that does just that. We run students through a
couple of times with ABS on so that when they hammer the brakes, they feel
and hear that buzzing. Then we switch it off and run 'em through again and
have them simulate ABS with their foot. It's hard enough when you're not
panicked, but when a kid jumps out in front of you unexpectedly, your
instinct is to shove the brake pedal through the firewall. That's what
great about ABS: the computer compensates for panic and lack of sensitivity.

My daughter has her temps right now and I've already had her out practicing
braking just to give her the feel of how hard she needs to push the pedal
(even with power assist) to get to ABS, and also a feel for how quickly a
vehicle will stop. It will probably be awhile (read never) before I'm
comfortable with her in something without ABS.

Pete

Re: TJ available with ABS?
 

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:JM_dh.4254$Rj.1642@newsfe19.lga...
> Pete Stolz wrote:
>> Oh, I'm sure you are right, but like I said in my original post, this
>> is for my daughter. She's a newby driver and we live in Wisconsin. She
>> will be taking this thing to school every day and I need to know
>> she's driving something that will stop as efficiently as possible. New
>> drivers (actually most drivers) don't have the sensitivity and
>> presence of mind to NOT just "lock 'em up" in an emergency stop. They
>> just panic, jam on the brakes and pray. ABS gives those prayers
>> a better chance of being answered. Don't want to have to test the
>> airbag system! :)
>
> There is an other end to that. Drivers that aren't aware of what
> ABS feels like (Buzzzzzzzzzzzz) when it kicks in are likely to let
> off the brake. My suggestion is what ever vehicle you do get, take
> the time to go to a dirt/gravel spot and practice emergency stops.
>
> ABS won't necessarily stop you faster. What ABS does is let you
> maintain steering control while your skittering to a stop.
>
> I can stop faster in a straight line without ABS, especially
> in loose dirt/gravel/snow because the debris pile up in front
> of the tire and the vehicle digs-in. While on ice where ABS
> shines, it basically allows you to pick where your going to
> hit. :/
>
> --
> DougW

Couldn't agree more. Technically, if you've practiced it enough and have
developed a good sensitivity to lock up, you can beat ABS, especially on dry
pavement. Practicing that has a tendancy to square off your tires though.
We do a braking exercise that does just that. We run students through a
couple of times with ABS on so that when they hammer the brakes, they feel
and hear that buzzing. Then we switch it off and run 'em through again and
have them simulate ABS with their foot. It's hard enough when you're not
panicked, but when a kid jumps out in front of you unexpectedly, your
instinct is to shove the brake pedal through the firewall. That's what
great about ABS: the computer compensates for panic and lack of sensitivity.

My daughter has her temps right now and I've already had her out practicing
braking just to give her the feel of how hard she needs to push the pedal
(even with power assist) to get to ABS, and also a feel for how quickly a
vehicle will stop. It will probably be awhile (read never) before I'm
comfortable with her in something without ABS.

Pete

Re: TJ available with ABS?
 

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:JM_dh.4254$Rj.1642@newsfe19.lga...
> Pete Stolz wrote:
>> Oh, I'm sure you are right, but like I said in my original post, this
>> is for my daughter. She's a newby driver and we live in Wisconsin. She
>> will be taking this thing to school every day and I need to know
>> she's driving something that will stop as efficiently as possible. New
>> drivers (actually most drivers) don't have the sensitivity and
>> presence of mind to NOT just "lock 'em up" in an emergency stop. They
>> just panic, jam on the brakes and pray. ABS gives those prayers
>> a better chance of being answered. Don't want to have to test the
>> airbag system! :)
>
> There is an other end to that. Drivers that aren't aware of what
> ABS feels like (Buzzzzzzzzzzzz) when it kicks in are likely to let
> off the brake. My suggestion is what ever vehicle you do get, take
> the time to go to a dirt/gravel spot and practice emergency stops.
>
> ABS won't necessarily stop you faster. What ABS does is let you
> maintain steering control while your skittering to a stop.
>
> I can stop faster in a straight line without ABS, especially
> in loose dirt/gravel/snow because the debris pile up in front
> of the tire and the vehicle digs-in. While on ice where ABS
> shines, it basically allows you to pick where your going to
> hit. :/
>
> --
> DougW

Couldn't agree more. Technically, if you've practiced it enough and have
developed a good sensitivity to lock up, you can beat ABS, especially on dry
pavement. Practicing that has a tendancy to square off your tires though.
We do a braking exercise that does just that. We run students through a
couple of times with ABS on so that when they hammer the brakes, they feel
and hear that buzzing. Then we switch it off and run 'em through again and
have them simulate ABS with their foot. It's hard enough when you're not
panicked, but when a kid jumps out in front of you unexpectedly, your
instinct is to shove the brake pedal through the firewall. That's what
great about ABS: the computer compensates for panic and lack of sensitivity.

My daughter has her temps right now and I've already had her out practicing
braking just to give her the feel of how hard she needs to push the pedal
(even with power assist) to get to ABS, and also a feel for how quickly a
vehicle will stop. It will probably be awhile (read never) before I'm
comfortable with her in something without ABS.

Pete

Re: TJ available with ABS?
 

OK. I misunderstood what you meant. My bad! Your probably right about
that. I'll have to check each one individually I suppose.
Thanks,
Pete


"twaldron" <twaldron@OBVIOUSspam.com> wrote in message
news:zE%dh.3598$5h.732@trnddc04...
>I was just saying that by using "ABS" as a keyword in your search, you
>might be missing some nice Jeeps that _DO HAVE_ ABS because the owner just
>didn't list it, or even know it was on the Jeep. Also, ABS has become so
>standard on so many vehicles, ads just don't necessarily list them as an
>option.
>
> tw
>
> Pete Stolz wrote:
>> Oh, I'm sure you are right, but like I said in my original post, this is
>> for my daughter. She's a newby driver and we live in Wisconsin. She
>> will be taking this thing to school every day and I need to know she's
>> driving something that will stop as efficiently as possible. New drivers
>> (actually most drivers) don't have the sensitivity and presence of mind
>> to NOT just "lock 'em up" in an emergency stop. They just panic, jam on
>> the brakes and pray. ABS gives those prayers a better chance of being
>> answered. Don't want to have to test the airbag system! :)
>> Pete
>>
>> "twaldron" <twaldron@OBVIOUSspam.com> wrote in message
>> news:3DWdh.170$5h.49@trnddc04...
>>>
>>>Most people won't even know they have it. You might be eliminating some
>>>nice Jeeps in your search criteria method.
>>>
>>>tw
>>>--
>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> __________________________________________________ ___________________

Re: TJ available with ABS?
 

OK. I misunderstood what you meant. My bad! Your probably right about
that. I'll have to check each one individually I suppose.
Thanks,
Pete


"twaldron" <twaldron@OBVIOUSspam.com> wrote in message
news:zE%dh.3598$5h.732@trnddc04...
>I was just saying that by using "ABS" as a keyword in your search, you
>might be missing some nice Jeeps that _DO HAVE_ ABS because the owner just
>didn't list it, or even know it was on the Jeep. Also, ABS has become so
>standard on so many vehicles, ads just don't necessarily list them as an
>option.
>
> tw
>
> Pete Stolz wrote:
>> Oh, I'm sure you are right, but like I said in my original post, this is
>> for my daughter. She's a newby driver and we live in Wisconsin. She
>> will be taking this thing to school every day and I need to know she's
>> driving something that will stop as efficiently as possible. New drivers
>> (actually most drivers) don't have the sensitivity and presence of mind
>> to NOT just "lock 'em up" in an emergency stop. They just panic, jam on
>> the brakes and pray. ABS gives those prayers a better chance of being
>> answered. Don't want to have to test the airbag system! :)
>> Pete
>>
>> "twaldron" <twaldron@OBVIOUSspam.com> wrote in message
>> news:3DWdh.170$5h.49@trnddc04...
>>>
>>>Most people won't even know they have it. You might be eliminating some
>>>nice Jeeps in your search criteria method.
>>>
>>>tw
>>>--
>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> __________________________________________________ ___________________

Re: TJ available with ABS?
 

OK. I misunderstood what you meant. My bad! Your probably right about
that. I'll have to check each one individually I suppose.
Thanks,
Pete


"twaldron" <twaldron@OBVIOUSspam.com> wrote in message
news:zE%dh.3598$5h.732@trnddc04...
>I was just saying that by using "ABS" as a keyword in your search, you
>might be missing some nice Jeeps that _DO HAVE_ ABS because the owner just
>didn't list it, or even know it was on the Jeep. Also, ABS has become so
>standard on so many vehicles, ads just don't necessarily list them as an
>option.
>
> tw
>
> Pete Stolz wrote:
>> Oh, I'm sure you are right, but like I said in my original post, this is
>> for my daughter. She's a newby driver and we live in Wisconsin. She
>> will be taking this thing to school every day and I need to know she's
>> driving something that will stop as efficiently as possible. New drivers
>> (actually most drivers) don't have the sensitivity and presence of mind
>> to NOT just "lock 'em up" in an emergency stop. They just panic, jam on
>> the brakes and pray. ABS gives those prayers a better chance of being
>> answered. Don't want to have to test the airbag system! :)
>> Pete
>>
>> "twaldron" <twaldron@OBVIOUSspam.com> wrote in message
>> news:3DWdh.170$5h.49@trnddc04...
>>>
>>>Most people won't even know they have it. You might be eliminating some
>>>nice Jeeps in your search criteria method.
>>>
>>>tw
>>>--
>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> __________________________________________________ ___________________

Re: TJ available with ABS?
 

I didn't for my Daughter, choosing a rag top, Stang for her, but at
least for yours, her first car, choose lots of Detroit steel. Gasoline is
the cheapest insurance she may buy.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Pete Stolz" <peachyracer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:T42eh.1264$Gr2.109@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net ...
> OK. I misunderstood what you meant. My bad! Your probably right about
> that. I'll have to check each one individually I suppose.
> Thanks,
> Pete
>
>
> "twaldron" <twaldron@OBVIOUSspam.com> wrote in message
> news:zE%dh.3598$5h.732@trnddc04...
> >I was just saying that by using "ABS" as a keyword in your search, you
> >might be missing some nice Jeeps that _DO HAVE_ ABS because the owner
just
> >didn't list it, or even know it was on the Jeep. Also, ABS has become so
> >standard on so many vehicles, ads just don't necessarily list them as an
> >option.
> >
> > tw
> >
> > Pete Stolz wrote:
> >> Oh, I'm sure you are right, but like I said in my original post, this
is
> >> for my daughter. She's a newby driver and we live in Wisconsin. She
> >> will be taking this thing to school every day and I need to know she's
> >> driving something that will stop as efficiently as possible. New
drivers
> >> (actually most drivers) don't have the sensitivity and presence of mind
> >> to NOT just "lock 'em up" in an emergency stop. They just panic, jam
on
> >> the brakes and pray. ABS gives those prayers a better chance of being
> >> answered. Don't want to have to test the airbag system! :)
> >> Pete
> >>
> >> "twaldron" <twaldron@OBVIOUSspam.com> wrote in message
> >> news:3DWdh.170$5h.49@trnddc04...
> >>>
> >>>Most people won't even know they have it. You might be eliminating some
> >>>nice Jeeps in your search criteria method.
> >>>
> >>>tw
> >>>--
> >
> >
> > --
> > __________________________________________________ ___________________
> > 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
> >
> > "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
> >
> > Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
> >
> > Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> > A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> > capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> > __________________________________________________ ___________________
>
>



--
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Re: TJ available with ABS?
 

I didn't for my Daughter, choosing a rag top, Stang for her, but at
least for yours, her first car, choose lots of Detroit steel. Gasoline is
the cheapest insurance she may buy.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Pete Stolz" <peachyracer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:T42eh.1264$Gr2.109@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net ...
> OK. I misunderstood what you meant. My bad! Your probably right about
> that. I'll have to check each one individually I suppose.
> Thanks,
> Pete
>
>
> "twaldron" <twaldron@OBVIOUSspam.com> wrote in message
> news:zE%dh.3598$5h.732@trnddc04...
> >I was just saying that by using "ABS" as a keyword in your search, you
> >might be missing some nice Jeeps that _DO HAVE_ ABS because the owner
just
> >didn't list it, or even know it was on the Jeep. Also, ABS has become so
> >standard on so many vehicles, ads just don't necessarily list them as an
> >option.
> >
> > tw
> >
> > Pete Stolz wrote:
> >> Oh, I'm sure you are right, but like I said in my original post, this
is
> >> for my daughter. She's a newby driver and we live in Wisconsin. She
> >> will be taking this thing to school every day and I need to know she's
> >> driving something that will stop as efficiently as possible. New
drivers
> >> (actually most drivers) don't have the sensitivity and presence of mind
> >> to NOT just "lock 'em up" in an emergency stop. They just panic, jam
on
> >> the brakes and pray. ABS gives those prayers a better chance of being
> >> answered. Don't want to have to test the airbag system! :)
> >> Pete
> >>
> >> "twaldron" <twaldron@OBVIOUSspam.com> wrote in message
> >> news:3DWdh.170$5h.49@trnddc04...
> >>>
> >>>Most people won't even know they have it. You might be eliminating some
> >>>nice Jeeps in your search criteria method.
> >>>
> >>>tw
> >>>--
> >
> >
> > --
> > __________________________________________________ ___________________
> > 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
> >
> > "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
> >
> > Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
> >
> > Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> > A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> > capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> > __________________________________________________ ___________________
>
>



--
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Re: TJ available with ABS?
 

I didn't for my Daughter, choosing a rag top, Stang for her, but at
least for yours, her first car, choose lots of Detroit steel. Gasoline is
the cheapest insurance she may buy.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Pete Stolz" <peachyracer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:T42eh.1264$Gr2.109@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net ...
> OK. I misunderstood what you meant. My bad! Your probably right about
> that. I'll have to check each one individually I suppose.
> Thanks,
> Pete
>
>
> "twaldron" <twaldron@OBVIOUSspam.com> wrote in message
> news:zE%dh.3598$5h.732@trnddc04...
> >I was just saying that by using "ABS" as a keyword in your search, you
> >might be missing some nice Jeeps that _DO HAVE_ ABS because the owner
just
> >didn't list it, or even know it was on the Jeep. Also, ABS has become so
> >standard on so many vehicles, ads just don't necessarily list them as an
> >option.
> >
> > tw
> >
> > Pete Stolz wrote:
> >> Oh, I'm sure you are right, but like I said in my original post, this
is
> >> for my daughter. She's a newby driver and we live in Wisconsin. She
> >> will be taking this thing to school every day and I need to know she's
> >> driving something that will stop as efficiently as possible. New
drivers
> >> (actually most drivers) don't have the sensitivity and presence of mind
> >> to NOT just "lock 'em up" in an emergency stop. They just panic, jam
on
> >> the brakes and pray. ABS gives those prayers a better chance of being
> >> answered. Don't want to have to test the airbag system! :)
> >> Pete
> >>
> >> "twaldron" <twaldron@OBVIOUSspam.com> wrote in message
> >> news:3DWdh.170$5h.49@trnddc04...
> >>>
> >>>Most people won't even know they have it. You might be eliminating some
> >>>nice Jeeps in your search criteria method.
> >>>
> >>>tw
> >>>--
> >
> >
> > --
> > __________________________________________________ ___________________
> > 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
> >
> > "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
> >
> > Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
> >
> > Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> > A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> > capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> > __________________________________________________ ___________________
>
>



--
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Re: TJ available with ABS?
 

Good grief, I'm not THAT old but I still remember when car ads in the
classifieds often had "R&H" in them.

For those that don't know that meant the car had a radio and heater, yes
they used to be options.

Jeff DeWitt

twaldron wrote:
> I was just saying that by using "ABS" as a keyword in your search, you
> might be missing some nice Jeeps that _DO HAVE_ ABS because the owner
> just didn't list it, or even know it was on the Jeep. Also, ABS has
> become so standard on so many vehicles, ads just don't necessarily list
> them as an option.
>
> tw
>
> Pete Stolz wrote:
>
>> Oh, I'm sure you are right, but like I said in my original post, this
>> is for my daughter. She's a newby driver and we live in Wisconsin.
>> She will be taking this thing to school every day and I need to know
>> she's driving something that will stop as efficiently as possible.
>> New drivers (actually most drivers) don't have the sensitivity and
>> presence of mind to NOT just "lock 'em up" in an emergency stop.
>> They just panic, jam on the brakes and pray. ABS gives those prayers
>> a better chance of being answered. Don't want to have to test the
>> airbag system! :)
>> Pete
>>
>> "twaldron" <twaldron@OBVIOUSspam.com> wrote in message
>> news:3DWdh.170$5h.49@trnddc04...
>>
>>>
>>> Most people won't even know they have it. You might be eliminating
>>> some nice Jeeps in your search criteria method.
>>>
>>> tw
>>> --
>
>
>

Re: TJ available with ABS?
 

Good grief, I'm not THAT old but I still remember when car ads in the
classifieds often had "R&H" in them.

For those that don't know that meant the car had a radio and heater, yes
they used to be options.

Jeff DeWitt

twaldron wrote:
> I was just saying that by using "ABS" as a keyword in your search, you
> might be missing some nice Jeeps that _DO HAVE_ ABS because the owner
> just didn't list it, or even know it was on the Jeep. Also, ABS has
> become so standard on so many vehicles, ads just don't necessarily list
> them as an option.
>
> tw
>
> Pete Stolz wrote:
>
>> Oh, I'm sure you are right, but like I said in my original post, this
>> is for my daughter. She's a newby driver and we live in Wisconsin.
>> She will be taking this thing to school every day and I need to know
>> she's driving something that will stop as efficiently as possible.
>> New drivers (actually most drivers) don't have the sensitivity and
>> presence of mind to NOT just "lock 'em up" in an emergency stop.
>> They just panic, jam on the brakes and pray. ABS gives those prayers
>> a better chance of being answered. Don't want to have to test the
>> airbag system! :)
>> Pete
>>
>> "twaldron" <twaldron@OBVIOUSspam.com> wrote in message
>> news:3DWdh.170$5h.49@trnddc04...
>>
>>>
>>> Most people won't even know they have it. You might be eliminating
>>> some nice Jeeps in your search criteria method.
>>>
>>> tw
>>> --
>
>
>

Re: TJ available with ABS?
 

Good grief, I'm not THAT old but I still remember when car ads in the
classifieds often had "R&H" in them.

For those that don't know that meant the car had a radio and heater, yes
they used to be options.

Jeff DeWitt

twaldron wrote:
> I was just saying that by using "ABS" as a keyword in your search, you
> might be missing some nice Jeeps that _DO HAVE_ ABS because the owner
> just didn't list it, or even know it was on the Jeep. Also, ABS has
> become so standard on so many vehicles, ads just don't necessarily list
> them as an option.
>
> tw
>
> Pete Stolz wrote:
>
>> Oh, I'm sure you are right, but like I said in my original post, this
>> is for my daughter. She's a newby driver and we live in Wisconsin.
>> She will be taking this thing to school every day and I need to know
>> she's driving something that will stop as efficiently as possible.
>> New drivers (actually most drivers) don't have the sensitivity and
>> presence of mind to NOT just "lock 'em up" in an emergency stop.
>> They just panic, jam on the brakes and pray. ABS gives those prayers
>> a better chance of being answered. Don't want to have to test the
>> airbag system! :)
>> Pete
>>
>> "twaldron" <twaldron@OBVIOUSspam.com> wrote in message
>> news:3DWdh.170$5h.49@trnddc04...
>>
>>>
>>> Most people won't even know they have it. You might be eliminating
>>> some nice Jeeps in your search criteria method.
>>>
>>> tw
>>> --
>
>
>

Re: TJ available with ABS?
 

Radio delete plate:
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Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:
>
> Good grief, I'm not THAT old but I still remember when car ads in the
> classifieds often had "R&H" in them.
>
> For those that don't know that meant the car had a radio and heater, yes
> they used to be options.
>
> Jeff DeWitt

Re: TJ available with ABS?
 

Radio delete plate:
http://www.belairautoparts.com/33-48...lete_plate.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:
>
> Good grief, I'm not THAT old but I still remember when car ads in the
> classifieds often had "R&H" in them.
>
> For those that don't know that meant the car had a radio and heater, yes
> they used to be options.
>
> Jeff DeWitt

Re: TJ available with ABS?
 

Radio delete plate:
http://www.belairautoparts.com/33-48...lete_plate.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:
>
> Good grief, I'm not THAT old but I still remember when car ads in the
> classifieds often had "R&H" in them.
>
> For those that don't know that meant the car had a radio and heater, yes
> they used to be options.
>
> Jeff DeWitt