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Eric 07-22-2004 10:46 PM

Tires questions
 
Ok.. I'm having doubts about my upcoming mods. Plan was to go with 33's,
4.88's and subsequently an 8.8 or dana 44. And while I was at it, I should
go for an SYE kit...

Wow, that's a lot of money ($2,500 or so). I've been wondering -- just how
much better are 33's over, say, 31's of the same tire? I'm not a
crawl-every-day type of guy. I get out when I can, which is usually once a
month. My TJ is mostly a daily driver. So, I could go with 31's and not
regear. Maybe even 32's and go with 4.56's down the road and live with 31's
for now.

Would 32x11.50 need 15x8 or could I get away with 15x7? What do you guys
think? I'm really leaning towards new tires, no gears (at least until WAY
down the road... maybe when I do an engine swap if this thing ever blows
up).

Eric
99 TJ SE



CRWLR 07-23-2004 02:17 PM

Re: Tires questions
 

"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:WZ_Lc.16058$WP1.14909@fe1.texas.rr.com...
> Ok.. I'm having doubts about my upcoming mods. Plan was to go with 33's,
> 4.88's and subsequently an 8.8 or dana 44. And while I was at it, I

should
> go for an SYE kit...
>
> Wow, that's a lot of money ($2,500 or so). I've been wondering -- just

how
> much better are 33's over, say, 31's of the same tire? I'm not a
> crawl-every-day type of guy. I get out when I can, which is usually once

a
> month. My TJ is mostly a daily driver. So, I could go with 31's and not
> regear. Maybe even 32's and go with 4.56's down the road and live with

31's
> for now.
>


I run 4.10s with my 32x11.50s. If you think you may want to go with 33s at
some point, then regear to 4.56s, ir you will be good with 32s for the
duration, then you can gear to 4.10s or 4.56s. 4.56s _may_ cause you to
think you are over-revving at highway speeds. Surely the 4.56s will not work
for you with 31s, but they should be fine with the 32s or 33s. They will
even work reasonably well with 35s.

I run my 32x11.50s on 15x8s.



> Would 32x11.50 need 15x8 or could I get away with 15x7? What do you guys
> think? I'm really leaning towards new tires, no gears (at least until WAY
> down the road... maybe when I do an engine swap if this thing ever blows
> up).
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
>
>




CRWLR 07-23-2004 02:17 PM

Re: Tires questions
 

"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:WZ_Lc.16058$WP1.14909@fe1.texas.rr.com...
> Ok.. I'm having doubts about my upcoming mods. Plan was to go with 33's,
> 4.88's and subsequently an 8.8 or dana 44. And while I was at it, I

should
> go for an SYE kit...
>
> Wow, that's a lot of money ($2,500 or so). I've been wondering -- just

how
> much better are 33's over, say, 31's of the same tire? I'm not a
> crawl-every-day type of guy. I get out when I can, which is usually once

a
> month. My TJ is mostly a daily driver. So, I could go with 31's and not
> regear. Maybe even 32's and go with 4.56's down the road and live with

31's
> for now.
>


I run 4.10s with my 32x11.50s. If you think you may want to go with 33s at
some point, then regear to 4.56s, ir you will be good with 32s for the
duration, then you can gear to 4.10s or 4.56s. 4.56s _may_ cause you to
think you are over-revving at highway speeds. Surely the 4.56s will not work
for you with 31s, but they should be fine with the 32s or 33s. They will
even work reasonably well with 35s.

I run my 32x11.50s on 15x8s.



> Would 32x11.50 need 15x8 or could I get away with 15x7? What do you guys
> think? I'm really leaning towards new tires, no gears (at least until WAY
> down the road... maybe when I do an engine swap if this thing ever blows
> up).
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
>
>




CRWLR 07-23-2004 02:17 PM

Re: Tires questions
 

"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:WZ_Lc.16058$WP1.14909@fe1.texas.rr.com...
> Ok.. I'm having doubts about my upcoming mods. Plan was to go with 33's,
> 4.88's and subsequently an 8.8 or dana 44. And while I was at it, I

should
> go for an SYE kit...
>
> Wow, that's a lot of money ($2,500 or so). I've been wondering -- just

how
> much better are 33's over, say, 31's of the same tire? I'm not a
> crawl-every-day type of guy. I get out when I can, which is usually once

a
> month. My TJ is mostly a daily driver. So, I could go with 31's and not
> regear. Maybe even 32's and go with 4.56's down the road and live with

31's
> for now.
>


I run 4.10s with my 32x11.50s. If you think you may want to go with 33s at
some point, then regear to 4.56s, ir you will be good with 32s for the
duration, then you can gear to 4.10s or 4.56s. 4.56s _may_ cause you to
think you are over-revving at highway speeds. Surely the 4.56s will not work
for you with 31s, but they should be fine with the 32s or 33s. They will
even work reasonably well with 35s.

I run my 32x11.50s on 15x8s.



> Would 32x11.50 need 15x8 or could I get away with 15x7? What do you guys
> think? I'm really leaning towards new tires, no gears (at least until WAY
> down the road... maybe when I do an engine swap if this thing ever blows
> up).
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
>
>




CRWLR 07-23-2004 02:17 PM

Re: Tires questions
 

"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:WZ_Lc.16058$WP1.14909@fe1.texas.rr.com...
> Ok.. I'm having doubts about my upcoming mods. Plan was to go with 33's,
> 4.88's and subsequently an 8.8 or dana 44. And while I was at it, I

should
> go for an SYE kit...
>
> Wow, that's a lot of money ($2,500 or so). I've been wondering -- just

how
> much better are 33's over, say, 31's of the same tire? I'm not a
> crawl-every-day type of guy. I get out when I can, which is usually once

a
> month. My TJ is mostly a daily driver. So, I could go with 31's and not
> regear. Maybe even 32's and go with 4.56's down the road and live with

31's
> for now.
>


I run 4.10s with my 32x11.50s. If you think you may want to go with 33s at
some point, then regear to 4.56s, ir you will be good with 32s for the
duration, then you can gear to 4.10s or 4.56s. 4.56s _may_ cause you to
think you are over-revving at highway speeds. Surely the 4.56s will not work
for you with 31s, but they should be fine with the 32s or 33s. They will
even work reasonably well with 35s.

I run my 32x11.50s on 15x8s.



> Would 32x11.50 need 15x8 or could I get away with 15x7? What do you guys
> think? I'm really leaning towards new tires, no gears (at least until WAY
> down the road... maybe when I do an engine swap if this thing ever blows
> up).
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
>
>




Eric 07-24-2004 12:23 AM

Re: Tires questions
 
By the way, I have a 2.5L. I already have 4.10's and 31's (well, they're
metrics that equal out to 30.5's). I've already experience power loss on
the freeway, but nothing I can't live with (enough engine/exhaust mods to
keep it going).

Is there a huge off-road tire performance difference between 31s and 33s?
What about 31s and 32s? I've been talking to a guy that just sold his 2.5L
TJ that had 4.88s and 33s on it and it still had problems maintaining any
sort of decent highway speed. Guess that's the nature of the 4 cyl.

Eric
99 TJ SE
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:10g2llpmq61n6f9@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
> news:WZ_Lc.16058$WP1.14909@fe1.texas.rr.com...
> > Ok.. I'm having doubts about my upcoming mods. Plan was to go with

33's,
> > 4.88's and subsequently an 8.8 or dana 44. And while I was at it, I

> should
> > go for an SYE kit...
> >
> > Wow, that's a lot of money ($2,500 or so). I've been wondering -- just

> how
> > much better are 33's over, say, 31's of the same tire? I'm not a
> > crawl-every-day type of guy. I get out when I can, which is usually

once
> a
> > month. My TJ is mostly a daily driver. So, I could go with 31's and

not
> > regear. Maybe even 32's and go with 4.56's down the road and live with

> 31's
> > for now.
> >

>
> I run 4.10s with my 32x11.50s. If you think you may want to go with 33s at
> some point, then regear to 4.56s, ir you will be good with 32s for the
> duration, then you can gear to 4.10s or 4.56s. 4.56s _may_ cause you to
> think you are over-revving at highway speeds. Surely the 4.56s will not

work
> for you with 31s, but they should be fine with the 32s or 33s. They will
> even work reasonably well with 35s.
>
> I run my 32x11.50s on 15x8s.
>
>
>
> > Would 32x11.50 need 15x8 or could I get away with 15x7? What do you

guys
> > think? I'm really leaning towards new tires, no gears (at least until

WAY
> > down the road... maybe when I do an engine swap if this thing ever blows
> > up).
> >
> > Eric
> > 99 TJ SE
> >
> >

>
>




Eric 07-24-2004 12:23 AM

Re: Tires questions
 
By the way, I have a 2.5L. I already have 4.10's and 31's (well, they're
metrics that equal out to 30.5's). I've already experience power loss on
the freeway, but nothing I can't live with (enough engine/exhaust mods to
keep it going).

Is there a huge off-road tire performance difference between 31s and 33s?
What about 31s and 32s? I've been talking to a guy that just sold his 2.5L
TJ that had 4.88s and 33s on it and it still had problems maintaining any
sort of decent highway speed. Guess that's the nature of the 4 cyl.

Eric
99 TJ SE
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:10g2llpmq61n6f9@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
> news:WZ_Lc.16058$WP1.14909@fe1.texas.rr.com...
> > Ok.. I'm having doubts about my upcoming mods. Plan was to go with

33's,
> > 4.88's and subsequently an 8.8 or dana 44. And while I was at it, I

> should
> > go for an SYE kit...
> >
> > Wow, that's a lot of money ($2,500 or so). I've been wondering -- just

> how
> > much better are 33's over, say, 31's of the same tire? I'm not a
> > crawl-every-day type of guy. I get out when I can, which is usually

once
> a
> > month. My TJ is mostly a daily driver. So, I could go with 31's and

not
> > regear. Maybe even 32's and go with 4.56's down the road and live with

> 31's
> > for now.
> >

>
> I run 4.10s with my 32x11.50s. If you think you may want to go with 33s at
> some point, then regear to 4.56s, ir you will be good with 32s for the
> duration, then you can gear to 4.10s or 4.56s. 4.56s _may_ cause you to
> think you are over-revving at highway speeds. Surely the 4.56s will not

work
> for you with 31s, but they should be fine with the 32s or 33s. They will
> even work reasonably well with 35s.
>
> I run my 32x11.50s on 15x8s.
>
>
>
> > Would 32x11.50 need 15x8 or could I get away with 15x7? What do you

guys
> > think? I'm really leaning towards new tires, no gears (at least until

WAY
> > down the road... maybe when I do an engine swap if this thing ever blows
> > up).
> >
> > Eric
> > 99 TJ SE
> >
> >

>
>




Eric 07-24-2004 12:23 AM

Re: Tires questions
 
By the way, I have a 2.5L. I already have 4.10's and 31's (well, they're
metrics that equal out to 30.5's). I've already experience power loss on
the freeway, but nothing I can't live with (enough engine/exhaust mods to
keep it going).

Is there a huge off-road tire performance difference between 31s and 33s?
What about 31s and 32s? I've been talking to a guy that just sold his 2.5L
TJ that had 4.88s and 33s on it and it still had problems maintaining any
sort of decent highway speed. Guess that's the nature of the 4 cyl.

Eric
99 TJ SE
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:10g2llpmq61n6f9@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
> news:WZ_Lc.16058$WP1.14909@fe1.texas.rr.com...
> > Ok.. I'm having doubts about my upcoming mods. Plan was to go with

33's,
> > 4.88's and subsequently an 8.8 or dana 44. And while I was at it, I

> should
> > go for an SYE kit...
> >
> > Wow, that's a lot of money ($2,500 or so). I've been wondering -- just

> how
> > much better are 33's over, say, 31's of the same tire? I'm not a
> > crawl-every-day type of guy. I get out when I can, which is usually

once
> a
> > month. My TJ is mostly a daily driver. So, I could go with 31's and

not
> > regear. Maybe even 32's and go with 4.56's down the road and live with

> 31's
> > for now.
> >

>
> I run 4.10s with my 32x11.50s. If you think you may want to go with 33s at
> some point, then regear to 4.56s, ir you will be good with 32s for the
> duration, then you can gear to 4.10s or 4.56s. 4.56s _may_ cause you to
> think you are over-revving at highway speeds. Surely the 4.56s will not

work
> for you with 31s, but they should be fine with the 32s or 33s. They will
> even work reasonably well with 35s.
>
> I run my 32x11.50s on 15x8s.
>
>
>
> > Would 32x11.50 need 15x8 or could I get away with 15x7? What do you

guys
> > think? I'm really leaning towards new tires, no gears (at least until

WAY
> > down the road... maybe when I do an engine swap if this thing ever blows
> > up).
> >
> > Eric
> > 99 TJ SE
> >
> >

>
>




Eric 07-24-2004 12:23 AM

Re: Tires questions
 
By the way, I have a 2.5L. I already have 4.10's and 31's (well, they're
metrics that equal out to 30.5's). I've already experience power loss on
the freeway, but nothing I can't live with (enough engine/exhaust mods to
keep it going).

Is there a huge off-road tire performance difference between 31s and 33s?
What about 31s and 32s? I've been talking to a guy that just sold his 2.5L
TJ that had 4.88s and 33s on it and it still had problems maintaining any
sort of decent highway speed. Guess that's the nature of the 4 cyl.

Eric
99 TJ SE
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:10g2llpmq61n6f9@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
> news:WZ_Lc.16058$WP1.14909@fe1.texas.rr.com...
> > Ok.. I'm having doubts about my upcoming mods. Plan was to go with

33's,
> > 4.88's and subsequently an 8.8 or dana 44. And while I was at it, I

> should
> > go for an SYE kit...
> >
> > Wow, that's a lot of money ($2,500 or so). I've been wondering -- just

> how
> > much better are 33's over, say, 31's of the same tire? I'm not a
> > crawl-every-day type of guy. I get out when I can, which is usually

once
> a
> > month. My TJ is mostly a daily driver. So, I could go with 31's and

not
> > regear. Maybe even 32's and go with 4.56's down the road and live with

> 31's
> > for now.
> >

>
> I run 4.10s with my 32x11.50s. If you think you may want to go with 33s at
> some point, then regear to 4.56s, ir you will be good with 32s for the
> duration, then you can gear to 4.10s or 4.56s. 4.56s _may_ cause you to
> think you are over-revving at highway speeds. Surely the 4.56s will not

work
> for you with 31s, but they should be fine with the 32s or 33s. They will
> even work reasonably well with 35s.
>
> I run my 32x11.50s on 15x8s.
>
>
>
> > Would 32x11.50 need 15x8 or could I get away with 15x7? What do you

guys
> > think? I'm really leaning towards new tires, no gears (at least until

WAY
> > down the road... maybe when I do an engine swap if this thing ever blows
> > up).
> >
> > Eric
> > 99 TJ SE
> >
> >

>
>




Drink 08-01-2004 01:01 PM

Re: Tires questions
 
I won't comment on gearing for different tire sizes other than say that a
2.5L won't turn 'em as well as a larger motor:) But, you already know that
and I feel your pain with my 258.
I've had 31's, 32's & currently run 33's. In my opinion, the most
important piece of the equation is tread selection vice size. (I'm not
considering gearing here; only tire vs. tire.) For example, I'd prefer a
31" mud terrain tire over a 44" street touring radial. I'm personally going
back to 31's.
My decision to go back down is for braking. I having standard braking
with drums all 'round. I'd go up to 35's but wouldn't be able to stop with
some good samaritan's bumper :)
I think Mike Romain mentioned a study a long time ago where somebody
concluded that a 31" MT tire was the best all-around tire off-road. (Do you
remember, Mike?)
The trade offs are in noise, vibration, acceleration/braking, fuel mileage
and handling on vs. off-road.
Jim
"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:vvlMc.16990$WP1.14125@fe1.texas.rr.com...
> By the way, I have a 2.5L. I already have 4.10's and 31's (well, they're
> metrics that equal out to 30.5's). I've already experience power loss on
> the freeway, but nothing I can't live with (enough engine/exhaust mods to
> keep it going).
>
> Is there a huge off-road tire performance difference between 31s and 33s?
> What about 31s and 32s? I've been talking to a guy that just sold his

2.5L
> TJ that had 4.88s and 33s on it and it still had problems maintaining any
> sort of decent highway speed. Guess that's the nature of the 4 cyl.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:10g2llpmq61n6f9@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> > "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
> > news:WZ_Lc.16058$WP1.14909@fe1.texas.rr.com...
> > > Ok.. I'm having doubts about my upcoming mods. Plan was to go with

> 33's,
> > > 4.88's and subsequently an 8.8 or dana 44. And while I was at it, I

> > should
> > > go for an SYE kit...
> > >
> > > Wow, that's a lot of money ($2,500 or so). I've been wondering --

just
> > how
> > > much better are 33's over, say, 31's of the same tire? I'm not a
> > > crawl-every-day type of guy. I get out when I can, which is usually

> once
> > a
> > > month. My TJ is mostly a daily driver. So, I could go with 31's and

> not
> > > regear. Maybe even 32's and go with 4.56's down the road and live

with
> > 31's
> > > for now.
> > >

> >
> > I run 4.10s with my 32x11.50s. If you think you may want to go with 33s

at
> > some point, then regear to 4.56s, ir you will be good with 32s for the
> > duration, then you can gear to 4.10s or 4.56s. 4.56s _may_ cause you to
> > think you are over-revving at highway speeds. Surely the 4.56s will not

> work
> > for you with 31s, but they should be fine with the 32s or 33s. They will
> > even work reasonably well with 35s.
> >
> > I run my 32x11.50s on 15x8s.
> >
> >
> >
> > > Would 32x11.50 need 15x8 or could I get away with 15x7? What do you

> guys
> > > think? I'm really leaning towards new tires, no gears (at least until

> WAY
> > > down the road... maybe when I do an engine swap if this thing ever

blows
> > > up).
> > >
> > > Eric
> > > 99 TJ SE
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>





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