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Drink 04-25-2004 06:17 PM

Tire Diameter vs. Turning Radius
 
Sombody help me with some math. What affects turning radius, tire width,
tire diameter or both? I've got 33 x 12.5 x 15's now and considering a swap
to shorter tires with an equally wide cross-section. I have AMC 20, 4.10
gears and plan to complete the drive train with an NV4500/Dana 300 behind a
small block Chevy. Sound like a good setup to you guys? If you have a
better idea, I'd appreciate hearing it before I start throwing down cash.
Two reasons for the change:
1) I've heard that the Lock-Rite Locker should be used with no larger than
31" tires (to keep from shearing the pins).
2) Very sandy soil down here on the Florida coast.
There's a lot of talk about snow and a little about mud but not much
advice about sand.
o_o_o_o
Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
Jim, WP3JQ |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W



David C. Moller 04-25-2004 06:40 PM

Re: Tire Diameter vs. Turning Radius
 
Interesting question... I'd like some answers, too. In my mind, tire
size/width doesn't impact turning radius at all. It all boils down to
the measurement in *degrees* that the wheels can turn either left or
right, no matter what the tire size is. For example, I had to adjust
the steering stops on my Jeep when I went to 31x10.5's, and lost some
turning radius. It was a result of the tires, but the tires weren't
the *cause* (if you get my drift?).

Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm

On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 17:17:24 -0500, "Drink" <drink@gnt.net> wrote:

> Sombody help me with some math. What affects turning radius, tire width,
>tire diameter or both? I've got 33 x 12.5 x 15's now and considering a swap
>to shorter tires with an equally wide cross-section. I have AMC 20, 4.10
>gears and plan to complete the drive train with an NV4500/Dana 300 behind a
>small block Chevy. Sound like a good setup to you guys? If you have a
>better idea, I'd appreciate hearing it before I start throwing down cash.
> Two reasons for the change:
>1) I've heard that the Lock-Rite Locker should be used with no larger than
>31" tires (to keep from shearing the pins).
>2) Very sandy soil down here on the Florida coast.
> There's a lot of talk about snow and a little about mud but not much
>advice about sand.
> o_o_o_o
> Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
> Jim, WP3JQ |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
>EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W
>



David C. Moller 04-25-2004 06:40 PM

Re: Tire Diameter vs. Turning Radius
 
Interesting question... I'd like some answers, too. In my mind, tire
size/width doesn't impact turning radius at all. It all boils down to
the measurement in *degrees* that the wheels can turn either left or
right, no matter what the tire size is. For example, I had to adjust
the steering stops on my Jeep when I went to 31x10.5's, and lost some
turning radius. It was a result of the tires, but the tires weren't
the *cause* (if you get my drift?).

Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm

On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 17:17:24 -0500, "Drink" <drink@gnt.net> wrote:

> Sombody help me with some math. What affects turning radius, tire width,
>tire diameter or both? I've got 33 x 12.5 x 15's now and considering a swap
>to shorter tires with an equally wide cross-section. I have AMC 20, 4.10
>gears and plan to complete the drive train with an NV4500/Dana 300 behind a
>small block Chevy. Sound like a good setup to you guys? If you have a
>better idea, I'd appreciate hearing it before I start throwing down cash.
> Two reasons for the change:
>1) I've heard that the Lock-Rite Locker should be used with no larger than
>31" tires (to keep from shearing the pins).
>2) Very sandy soil down here on the Florida coast.
> There's a lot of talk about snow and a little about mud but not much
>advice about sand.
> o_o_o_o
> Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
> Jim, WP3JQ |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
>EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W
>



David C. Moller 04-25-2004 06:40 PM

Re: Tire Diameter vs. Turning Radius
 
Interesting question... I'd like some answers, too. In my mind, tire
size/width doesn't impact turning radius at all. It all boils down to
the measurement in *degrees* that the wheels can turn either left or
right, no matter what the tire size is. For example, I had to adjust
the steering stops on my Jeep when I went to 31x10.5's, and lost some
turning radius. It was a result of the tires, but the tires weren't
the *cause* (if you get my drift?).

Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm

On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 17:17:24 -0500, "Drink" <drink@gnt.net> wrote:

> Sombody help me with some math. What affects turning radius, tire width,
>tire diameter or both? I've got 33 x 12.5 x 15's now and considering a swap
>to shorter tires with an equally wide cross-section. I have AMC 20, 4.10
>gears and plan to complete the drive train with an NV4500/Dana 300 behind a
>small block Chevy. Sound like a good setup to you guys? If you have a
>better idea, I'd appreciate hearing it before I start throwing down cash.
> Two reasons for the change:
>1) I've heard that the Lock-Rite Locker should be used with no larger than
>31" tires (to keep from shearing the pins).
>2) Very sandy soil down here on the Florida coast.
> There's a lot of talk about snow and a little about mud but not much
>advice about sand.
> o_o_o_o
> Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
> Jim, WP3JQ |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
>EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W
>



David C. Moller 04-25-2004 06:40 PM

Re: Tire Diameter vs. Turning Radius
 
Interesting question... I'd like some answers, too. In my mind, tire
size/width doesn't impact turning radius at all. It all boils down to
the measurement in *degrees* that the wheels can turn either left or
right, no matter what the tire size is. For example, I had to adjust
the steering stops on my Jeep when I went to 31x10.5's, and lost some
turning radius. It was a result of the tires, but the tires weren't
the *cause* (if you get my drift?).

Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm

On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 17:17:24 -0500, "Drink" <drink@gnt.net> wrote:

> Sombody help me with some math. What affects turning radius, tire width,
>tire diameter or both? I've got 33 x 12.5 x 15's now and considering a swap
>to shorter tires with an equally wide cross-section. I have AMC 20, 4.10
>gears and plan to complete the drive train with an NV4500/Dana 300 behind a
>small block Chevy. Sound like a good setup to you guys? If you have a
>better idea, I'd appreciate hearing it before I start throwing down cash.
> Two reasons for the change:
>1) I've heard that the Lock-Rite Locker should be used with no larger than
>31" tires (to keep from shearing the pins).
>2) Very sandy soil down here on the Florida coast.
> There's a lot of talk about snow and a little about mud but not much
>advice about sand.
> o_o_o_o
> Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
> Jim, WP3JQ |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
>EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W
>



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 04-25-2004 06:57 PM

Re: Tire Diameter vs. Turning Radius
 
You may not lose any turning radius, unless you have to screw out
the knuckle stops to keep it rubbing too hard on the leaf springs,
something that never bother me, I just release the steering wheel a
little, it not like it's going to knock off a strut like in the TJs.
Chevrolet and Real Jeeps are made for each other, they should just
bolt together with the mounts, radiator, and headers from any parts shop
like Advance Adapter.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Drink wrote:
>
> Sombody help me with some math. What affects turning radius, tire width,
> tire diameter or both? I've got 33 x 12.5 x 15's now and considering a swap
> to shorter tires with an equally wide cross-section. I have AMC 20, 4.10
> gears and plan to complete the drive train with an NV4500/Dana 300 behind a
> small block Chevy. Sound like a good setup to you guys? If you have a
> better idea, I'd appreciate hearing it before I start throwing down cash.
> Two reasons for the change:
> 1) I've heard that the Lock-Rite Locker should be used with no larger than
> 31" tires (to keep from shearing the pins).
> 2) Very sandy soil down here on the Florida coast.
> There's a lot of talk about snow and a little about mud but not much
> advice about sand.
> o_o_o_o
> Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
> Jim, WP3JQ |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
> EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 04-25-2004 06:57 PM

Re: Tire Diameter vs. Turning Radius
 
You may not lose any turning radius, unless you have to screw out
the knuckle stops to keep it rubbing too hard on the leaf springs,
something that never bother me, I just release the steering wheel a
little, it not like it's going to knock off a strut like in the TJs.
Chevrolet and Real Jeeps are made for each other, they should just
bolt together with the mounts, radiator, and headers from any parts shop
like Advance Adapter.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Drink wrote:
>
> Sombody help me with some math. What affects turning radius, tire width,
> tire diameter or both? I've got 33 x 12.5 x 15's now and considering a swap
> to shorter tires with an equally wide cross-section. I have AMC 20, 4.10
> gears and plan to complete the drive train with an NV4500/Dana 300 behind a
> small block Chevy. Sound like a good setup to you guys? If you have a
> better idea, I'd appreciate hearing it before I start throwing down cash.
> Two reasons for the change:
> 1) I've heard that the Lock-Rite Locker should be used with no larger than
> 31" tires (to keep from shearing the pins).
> 2) Very sandy soil down here on the Florida coast.
> There's a lot of talk about snow and a little about mud but not much
> advice about sand.
> o_o_o_o
> Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
> Jim, WP3JQ |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
> EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 04-25-2004 06:57 PM

Re: Tire Diameter vs. Turning Radius
 
You may not lose any turning radius, unless you have to screw out
the knuckle stops to keep it rubbing too hard on the leaf springs,
something that never bother me, I just release the steering wheel a
little, it not like it's going to knock off a strut like in the TJs.
Chevrolet and Real Jeeps are made for each other, they should just
bolt together with the mounts, radiator, and headers from any parts shop
like Advance Adapter.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Drink wrote:
>
> Sombody help me with some math. What affects turning radius, tire width,
> tire diameter or both? I've got 33 x 12.5 x 15's now and considering a swap
> to shorter tires with an equally wide cross-section. I have AMC 20, 4.10
> gears and plan to complete the drive train with an NV4500/Dana 300 behind a
> small block Chevy. Sound like a good setup to you guys? If you have a
> better idea, I'd appreciate hearing it before I start throwing down cash.
> Two reasons for the change:
> 1) I've heard that the Lock-Rite Locker should be used with no larger than
> 31" tires (to keep from shearing the pins).
> 2) Very sandy soil down here on the Florida coast.
> There's a lot of talk about snow and a little about mud but not much
> advice about sand.
> o_o_o_o
> Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
> Jim, WP3JQ |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
> EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 04-25-2004 06:57 PM

Re: Tire Diameter vs. Turning Radius
 
You may not lose any turning radius, unless you have to screw out
the knuckle stops to keep it rubbing too hard on the leaf springs,
something that never bother me, I just release the steering wheel a
little, it not like it's going to knock off a strut like in the TJs.
Chevrolet and Real Jeeps are made for each other, they should just
bolt together with the mounts, radiator, and headers from any parts shop
like Advance Adapter.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Drink wrote:
>
> Sombody help me with some math. What affects turning radius, tire width,
> tire diameter or both? I've got 33 x 12.5 x 15's now and considering a swap
> to shorter tires with an equally wide cross-section. I have AMC 20, 4.10
> gears and plan to complete the drive train with an NV4500/Dana 300 behind a
> small block Chevy. Sound like a good setup to you guys? If you have a
> better idea, I'd appreciate hearing it before I start throwing down cash.
> Two reasons for the change:
> 1) I've heard that the Lock-Rite Locker should be used with no larger than
> 31" tires (to keep from shearing the pins).
> 2) Very sandy soil down here on the Florida coast.
> There's a lot of talk about snow and a little about mud but not much
> advice about sand.
> o_o_o_o
> Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
> Jim, WP3JQ |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
> EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W


Drink 04-25-2004 07:25 PM

Re: Tire Diameter vs. Turning Radius
 
That's what confused me I guess. When I went big years ago, turning tight
turns became really really tough by comparison. I readjusted the stops a
little but didn't think I did That much. The turn radius seems really poor
for such a short wheel base.
o_o_o_o
Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
Jim, WP3JQ |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:408C4241.88958A9@cox.net...
> You may not lose any turning radius, unless you have to screw out
> the knuckle stops to keep it rubbing too hard on the leaf springs,
> something that never bother me, I just release the steering wheel a
> little, it not like it's going to knock off a strut like in the TJs.
> Chevrolet and Real Jeeps are made for each other, they should just
> bolt together with the mounts, radiator, and headers from any parts shop
> like Advance Adapter.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Drink wrote:
> >
> > Sombody help me with some math. What affects turning radius, tire

width,
> > tire diameter or both? I've got 33 x 12.5 x 15's now and considering a

swap
> > to shorter tires with an equally wide cross-section. I have AMC 20,

4.10
> > gears and plan to complete the drive train with an NV4500/Dana 300

behind a
> > small block Chevy. Sound like a good setup to you guys? If you have a
> > better idea, I'd appreciate hearing it before I start throwing down

cash.
> > Two reasons for the change:
> > 1) I've heard that the Lock-Rite Locker should be used with no larger

than
> > 31" tires (to keep from shearing the pins).
> > 2) Very sandy soil down here on the Florida coast.
> > There's a lot of talk about snow and a little about mud but not much
> > advice about sand.
> > o_o_o_o
> > Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
> > Jim, WP3JQ |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> > ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
> > EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W





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