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Steve 05-27-2004 05:15 PM

Tire Balancing
 
Hi,

I'm getting tired of losing balancing weights every time I hit the
trail. Considering these two products:

http://www.counteractbalancing.com/
http://expeditionexchange.com/equal/

Any experience with either of these? I'm leaning toward the 'Counteract'
beads because they aren't affected by moisture like the 'Equal' polymer
powder is.

Steve

Fred W. 05-28-2004 12:50 PM

Re: Tire Balancing
 

"Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
news:jUstc.48805$Np3.2121507@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> Hi,
>
> I'm getting tired of losing balancing weights every time I hit the
> trail. Considering these two products:
>
> http://www.counteractbalancing.com/
> http://expeditionexchange.com/equal/
>
> Any experience with either of these? I'm leaning toward the 'Counteract'
> beads because they aren't affected by moisture like the 'Equal' polymer
> powder is.


I'm sceptical. If these work so well why wouldn't auto manufacturers just
install these to begin with? There mnust be a down side...

-Fred W



Fred W. 05-28-2004 12:50 PM

Re: Tire Balancing
 

"Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
news:jUstc.48805$Np3.2121507@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> Hi,
>
> I'm getting tired of losing balancing weights every time I hit the
> trail. Considering these two products:
>
> http://www.counteractbalancing.com/
> http://expeditionexchange.com/equal/
>
> Any experience with either of these? I'm leaning toward the 'Counteract'
> beads because they aren't affected by moisture like the 'Equal' polymer
> powder is.


I'm sceptical. If these work so well why wouldn't auto manufacturers just
install these to begin with? There mnust be a down side...

-Fred W



Fred W. 05-28-2004 12:50 PM

Re: Tire Balancing
 

"Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
news:jUstc.48805$Np3.2121507@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> Hi,
>
> I'm getting tired of losing balancing weights every time I hit the
> trail. Considering these two products:
>
> http://www.counteractbalancing.com/
> http://expeditionexchange.com/equal/
>
> Any experience with either of these? I'm leaning toward the 'Counteract'
> beads because they aren't affected by moisture like the 'Equal' polymer
> powder is.


I'm sceptical. If these work so well why wouldn't auto manufacturers just
install these to begin with? There mnust be a down side...

-Fred W



Fred W. 05-28-2004 12:50 PM

Re: Tire Balancing
 

"Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
news:jUstc.48805$Np3.2121507@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> Hi,
>
> I'm getting tired of losing balancing weights every time I hit the
> trail. Considering these two products:
>
> http://www.counteractbalancing.com/
> http://expeditionexchange.com/equal/
>
> Any experience with either of these? I'm leaning toward the 'Counteract'
> beads because they aren't affected by moisture like the 'Equal' polymer
> powder is.


I'm sceptical. If these work so well why wouldn't auto manufacturers just
install these to begin with? There mnust be a down side...

-Fred W



Steve 05-28-2004 02:26 PM

Re: Tire Balancing
 
Fred W. wrote:
> "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
>> http://www.counteractbalancing.com/
>> http://expeditionexchange.com/equal/

>
> I'm sceptical.


I'm skeptical too, but willing to try something different. Anyone else
out there have problems with mashed weights after romping on the rocks?
I've got 10.5" wide tires on 15x7 alloy rims. Any tricks to protecting
the weights? I use marks and a note pad to record which weights are
where, and I can sometimes just replace any missing ones to get back to
balance, but if I chunk a lug or if the tire slips on the bead, its back
to the $pin balancer to cure the shakes.

> If these work so well why wouldn't auto manufacturers just
> install these to begin with?


Maybe because lead weights hang on just fine for the 99.999% of wheels
that never go off road.

> There mnust be a down side...


Well, the old trucker's trick of putting some golf balls inside has its
pitfalls:

http://tinyurl.com/3c4hf

The bead and powder products both claim no damage to inside of tires,
but I can't find any independent verification of that claim. Both also
recommend a longer valve core or valve filter to prevent clogging - a
minor downside. The powder is more prone to clog valves and will clump
if it gets moist, so I think I'll try the beads unless someone tells me
I'm nuts.

Steve



Steve 05-28-2004 02:26 PM

Re: Tire Balancing
 
Fred W. wrote:
> "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
>> http://www.counteractbalancing.com/
>> http://expeditionexchange.com/equal/

>
> I'm sceptical.


I'm skeptical too, but willing to try something different. Anyone else
out there have problems with mashed weights after romping on the rocks?
I've got 10.5" wide tires on 15x7 alloy rims. Any tricks to protecting
the weights? I use marks and a note pad to record which weights are
where, and I can sometimes just replace any missing ones to get back to
balance, but if I chunk a lug or if the tire slips on the bead, its back
to the $pin balancer to cure the shakes.

> If these work so well why wouldn't auto manufacturers just
> install these to begin with?


Maybe because lead weights hang on just fine for the 99.999% of wheels
that never go off road.

> There mnust be a down side...


Well, the old trucker's trick of putting some golf balls inside has its
pitfalls:

http://tinyurl.com/3c4hf

The bead and powder products both claim no damage to inside of tires,
but I can't find any independent verification of that claim. Both also
recommend a longer valve core or valve filter to prevent clogging - a
minor downside. The powder is more prone to clog valves and will clump
if it gets moist, so I think I'll try the beads unless someone tells me
I'm nuts.

Steve



Steve 05-28-2004 02:26 PM

Re: Tire Balancing
 
Fred W. wrote:
> "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
>> http://www.counteractbalancing.com/
>> http://expeditionexchange.com/equal/

>
> I'm sceptical.


I'm skeptical too, but willing to try something different. Anyone else
out there have problems with mashed weights after romping on the rocks?
I've got 10.5" wide tires on 15x7 alloy rims. Any tricks to protecting
the weights? I use marks and a note pad to record which weights are
where, and I can sometimes just replace any missing ones to get back to
balance, but if I chunk a lug or if the tire slips on the bead, its back
to the $pin balancer to cure the shakes.

> If these work so well why wouldn't auto manufacturers just
> install these to begin with?


Maybe because lead weights hang on just fine for the 99.999% of wheels
that never go off road.

> There mnust be a down side...


Well, the old trucker's trick of putting some golf balls inside has its
pitfalls:

http://tinyurl.com/3c4hf

The bead and powder products both claim no damage to inside of tires,
but I can't find any independent verification of that claim. Both also
recommend a longer valve core or valve filter to prevent clogging - a
minor downside. The powder is more prone to clog valves and will clump
if it gets moist, so I think I'll try the beads unless someone tells me
I'm nuts.

Steve



Steve 05-28-2004 02:26 PM

Re: Tire Balancing
 
Fred W. wrote:
> "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
>> http://www.counteractbalancing.com/
>> http://expeditionexchange.com/equal/

>
> I'm sceptical.


I'm skeptical too, but willing to try something different. Anyone else
out there have problems with mashed weights after romping on the rocks?
I've got 10.5" wide tires on 15x7 alloy rims. Any tricks to protecting
the weights? I use marks and a note pad to record which weights are
where, and I can sometimes just replace any missing ones to get back to
balance, but if I chunk a lug or if the tire slips on the bead, its back
to the $pin balancer to cure the shakes.

> If these work so well why wouldn't auto manufacturers just
> install these to begin with?


Maybe because lead weights hang on just fine for the 99.999% of wheels
that never go off road.

> There mnust be a down side...


Well, the old trucker's trick of putting some golf balls inside has its
pitfalls:

http://tinyurl.com/3c4hf

The bead and powder products both claim no damage to inside of tires,
but I can't find any independent verification of that claim. Both also
recommend a longer valve core or valve filter to prevent clogging - a
minor downside. The powder is more prone to clog valves and will clump
if it gets moist, so I think I'll try the beads unless someone tells me
I'm nuts.

Steve



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-28-2004 02:39 PM

Re: Tire Balancing
 
I wouldn't use it, it does work, finding a new level every time it
spins, like the spin cycle, it sometime gets caught wrong and we see the
washing machine take off across the floor.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Steve wrote:
>
> I'm skeptical too, but willing to try something different. Anyone else
> out there have problems with mashed weights after romping on the rocks?
> I've got 10.5" wide tires on 15x7 alloy rims. Any tricks to protecting
> the weights? I use marks and a note pad to record which weights are
> where, and I can sometimes just replace any missing ones to get back to
> balance, but if I chunk a lug or if the tire slips on the bead, its back
> to the $pin balancer to cure the shakes.
>
> Maybe because lead weights hang on just fine for the 99.999% of wheels
> that never go off road.
>
> Well, the old trucker's trick of putting some golf balls inside has its
> pitfalls:
>
> The bead and powder products both claim no damage to inside of tires,
> but I can't find any independent verification of that claim. Both also
> recommend a longer valve core or valve filter to prevent clogging - a
> minor downside. The powder is more prone to clog valves and will clump
> if it gets moist, so I think I'll try the beads unless someone tells me
> I'm nuts.
>
> Steve



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