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Lon 12-30-2006 12:51 PM

Re: Tilt steering repair
 
It might work better if you used penetrating oil rather than WD-40.
PBblaster if you can find it locally.


The Merg proclaimed:

> Great idea Mike - I never pass up an opportunity to use excessive
> amounts of WD-40.
>
> I'll let everyone know how it goes tomorrow - and I'll take a picture
> of my jerry-rigged tool.
>
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>>I have seen washers collapse trying to do what you are so getting a
>>couple or a really thick one might be in order.
>>
>>I would also recommend you spray the pins with penetrating oil tonight
>>even.
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>The Merg wrote:
>>
>>>Haha...thanks Mike, I won't.
>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>
>>>>Don't forget the washer!
>>>>
>>>>Mike
>>>>
>>>>The Merg wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Using a socket is a great idea. But I don't have a matching nut and
>>>>>bolt that'll fit so I'll head to the store in the morning to pick
>>>>>something up. Stay tuned, though, I'm sure I'll need help with
>>>>>something else. Thanks a lot, everybody.
>>>>>
>>>>>Will Honea wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 12:34:44 -0800, The Merg wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>No, I still can't get in. I found this for what I'm trying to do:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Now you are ready to pull the pivot pins out. There are two of them
>>>>>>>going in the sides at about the 3:00 and 9:00 positions. They are about
>>>>>>>3/8" in diameter and have a small hole threaded in the middle (#10-32 I
>>>>>>>believe) I managed to break off a bolt in one of these which required
>>>>>>>that I pull the entire steering column out to get the bolt drilled out
>>>>>>>so be careful. The GM tool looks like this:
>>>>>>> | |
>>>>>>> | |<-----------threaded rod
>>>>>>> | | |="===|" <------- nut
>>>>>>> ____________ | | | |<------ semi circle housing | ||
>>>>>>>| | || | || ||<--------threads into pivot pin
>>>>>>>To use this you thread it into the pivot pin. Make sure that the
>>>>>>>housing is solidly against the column, not interfering with the pivot
>>>>>>>pin. Tighten the nut down while holding the threaded rod still to pull
>>>>>>>the pivot pin out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The tool that I first tried to make was similar to the above using a
>>>>>>>bolt and a socket. I do not know what went wrong exactly but I broke
>>>>>>>the bolt off inside the pivot pin.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The guy that drilled out the bolt said that you can pull the pins by
>>>>>>>threading a bolt in and prying up with a pair of pliers."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I tried using a bolt and nut but I couldn't find a nut big enough.
>>>>>>>Auto Zone had no idea what I was talking about - they recommended I
>>>>>>>call the local Jeep dealer for some advice. They were also no help.
>>>>>>>So I'm going to try doing it myself again. Wish me luck.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>When I did mine, I had to pull the pivots out and get the top part of
>>>>>>the tilt assembly out of the way. Best I can remember, I used a socket
>>>>>>big enough for the pin to slide into as a receiver then ran a longer
>>>>>>stainless screw down thru the socket with a nut and washer to pull the pin
>>>>>>out into the socket. Be careful sliding that top part off: there is a
>>>>>>bearing with a plastic race at the top that you don't want to bugger. I
>>>>>>couldn't see those bolts much less reach them until I pulled the top
>>>>>>assembly off. Be sure you watch how it comes apart as it is a bit tricky
>>>>>>to reassemble.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com>

>
>


Lon 12-30-2006 12:51 PM

Re: Tilt steering repair
 
It might work better if you used penetrating oil rather than WD-40.
PBblaster if you can find it locally.


The Merg proclaimed:

> Great idea Mike - I never pass up an opportunity to use excessive
> amounts of WD-40.
>
> I'll let everyone know how it goes tomorrow - and I'll take a picture
> of my jerry-rigged tool.
>
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>>I have seen washers collapse trying to do what you are so getting a
>>couple or a really thick one might be in order.
>>
>>I would also recommend you spray the pins with penetrating oil tonight
>>even.
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>The Merg wrote:
>>
>>>Haha...thanks Mike, I won't.
>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>
>>>>Don't forget the washer!
>>>>
>>>>Mike
>>>>
>>>>The Merg wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Using a socket is a great idea. But I don't have a matching nut and
>>>>>bolt that'll fit so I'll head to the store in the morning to pick
>>>>>something up. Stay tuned, though, I'm sure I'll need help with
>>>>>something else. Thanks a lot, everybody.
>>>>>
>>>>>Will Honea wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 12:34:44 -0800, The Merg wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>No, I still can't get in. I found this for what I'm trying to do:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Now you are ready to pull the pivot pins out. There are two of them
>>>>>>>going in the sides at about the 3:00 and 9:00 positions. They are about
>>>>>>>3/8" in diameter and have a small hole threaded in the middle (#10-32 I
>>>>>>>believe) I managed to break off a bolt in one of these which required
>>>>>>>that I pull the entire steering column out to get the bolt drilled out
>>>>>>>so be careful. The GM tool looks like this:
>>>>>>> | |
>>>>>>> | |<-----------threaded rod
>>>>>>> | | |="===|" <------- nut
>>>>>>> ____________ | | | |<------ semi circle housing | ||
>>>>>>>| | || | || ||<--------threads into pivot pin
>>>>>>>To use this you thread it into the pivot pin. Make sure that the
>>>>>>>housing is solidly against the column, not interfering with the pivot
>>>>>>>pin. Tighten the nut down while holding the threaded rod still to pull
>>>>>>>the pivot pin out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The tool that I first tried to make was similar to the above using a
>>>>>>>bolt and a socket. I do not know what went wrong exactly but I broke
>>>>>>>the bolt off inside the pivot pin.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The guy that drilled out the bolt said that you can pull the pins by
>>>>>>>threading a bolt in and prying up with a pair of pliers."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I tried using a bolt and nut but I couldn't find a nut big enough.
>>>>>>>Auto Zone had no idea what I was talking about - they recommended I
>>>>>>>call the local Jeep dealer for some advice. They were also no help.
>>>>>>>So I'm going to try doing it myself again. Wish me luck.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>When I did mine, I had to pull the pivots out and get the top part of
>>>>>>the tilt assembly out of the way. Best I can remember, I used a socket
>>>>>>big enough for the pin to slide into as a receiver then ran a longer
>>>>>>stainless screw down thru the socket with a nut and washer to pull the pin
>>>>>>out into the socket. Be careful sliding that top part off: there is a
>>>>>>bearing with a plastic race at the top that you don't want to bugger. I
>>>>>>couldn't see those bolts much less reach them until I pulled the top
>>>>>>assembly off. Be sure you watch how it comes apart as it is a bit tricky
>>>>>>to reassemble.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com>

>
>


Lon 12-30-2006 12:51 PM

Re: Tilt steering repair
 
It might work better if you used penetrating oil rather than WD-40.
PBblaster if you can find it locally.


The Merg proclaimed:

> Great idea Mike - I never pass up an opportunity to use excessive
> amounts of WD-40.
>
> I'll let everyone know how it goes tomorrow - and I'll take a picture
> of my jerry-rigged tool.
>
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>>I have seen washers collapse trying to do what you are so getting a
>>couple or a really thick one might be in order.
>>
>>I would also recommend you spray the pins with penetrating oil tonight
>>even.
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>The Merg wrote:
>>
>>>Haha...thanks Mike, I won't.
>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>
>>>>Don't forget the washer!
>>>>
>>>>Mike
>>>>
>>>>The Merg wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Using a socket is a great idea. But I don't have a matching nut and
>>>>>bolt that'll fit so I'll head to the store in the morning to pick
>>>>>something up. Stay tuned, though, I'm sure I'll need help with
>>>>>something else. Thanks a lot, everybody.
>>>>>
>>>>>Will Honea wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 12:34:44 -0800, The Merg wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>No, I still can't get in. I found this for what I'm trying to do:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Now you are ready to pull the pivot pins out. There are two of them
>>>>>>>going in the sides at about the 3:00 and 9:00 positions. They are about
>>>>>>>3/8" in diameter and have a small hole threaded in the middle (#10-32 I
>>>>>>>believe) I managed to break off a bolt in one of these which required
>>>>>>>that I pull the entire steering column out to get the bolt drilled out
>>>>>>>so be careful. The GM tool looks like this:
>>>>>>> | |
>>>>>>> | |<-----------threaded rod
>>>>>>> | | |="===|" <------- nut
>>>>>>> ____________ | | | |<------ semi circle housing | ||
>>>>>>>| | || | || ||<--------threads into pivot pin
>>>>>>>To use this you thread it into the pivot pin. Make sure that the
>>>>>>>housing is solidly against the column, not interfering with the pivot
>>>>>>>pin. Tighten the nut down while holding the threaded rod still to pull
>>>>>>>the pivot pin out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The tool that I first tried to make was similar to the above using a
>>>>>>>bolt and a socket. I do not know what went wrong exactly but I broke
>>>>>>>the bolt off inside the pivot pin.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The guy that drilled out the bolt said that you can pull the pins by
>>>>>>>threading a bolt in and prying up with a pair of pliers."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I tried using a bolt and nut but I couldn't find a nut big enough.
>>>>>>>Auto Zone had no idea what I was talking about - they recommended I
>>>>>>>call the local Jeep dealer for some advice. They were also no help.
>>>>>>>So I'm going to try doing it myself again. Wish me luck.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>When I did mine, I had to pull the pivots out and get the top part of
>>>>>>the tilt assembly out of the way. Best I can remember, I used a socket
>>>>>>big enough for the pin to slide into as a receiver then ran a longer
>>>>>>stainless screw down thru the socket with a nut and washer to pull the pin
>>>>>>out into the socket. Be careful sliding that top part off: there is a
>>>>>>bearing with a plastic race at the top that you don't want to bugger. I
>>>>>>couldn't see those bolts much less reach them until I pulled the top
>>>>>>assembly off. Be sure you watch how it comes apart as it is a bit tricky
>>>>>>to reassemble.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com>

>
>


The Merg 12-30-2006 09:00 PM

Re: Tilt steering repair
 
I didn't get a chance to hit the store or do any work today, but could
I hypothetically find PBblaster at a Track Boys Zone, NAPA, or similar
major chain auto parts store?

On Dec 30, 12:51 pm, Lon <lon.stow...@comcast.net> wrote:
> It might work better if you used penetrating oil rather than WD-40.
> PBblaster if you can find it locally.
>
> The Merg proclaimed:
>
> > Great idea Mike - I never pass up an opportunity to use excessive
> > amounts of WD-40.

>
> > I'll let everyone know how it goes tomorrow - and I'll take a picture
> > of my jerry-rigged tool.

>
> > Mike Romain wrote:

>
> >>I have seen washers collapse trying to do what you are so getting a
> >>couple or a really thick one might be in order.

>
> >>I would also recommend you spray the pins with penetrating oil tonight
> >>even.

>
> >>Mike

>
> >>The Merg wrote:

>
> >>>Haha...thanks Mike, I won't.
> >>>Mike Romain wrote:

>
> >>>>Don't forget the washer!

>
> >>>>Mike

>
> >>>>The Merg wrote:

>
> >>>>>Using a socket is a great idea. But I don't have a matching nut and
> >>>>>bolt that'll fit so I'll head to the store in the morning to pick
> >>>>>something up. Stay tuned, though, I'm sure I'll need help with
> >>>>>something else. Thanks a lot, everybody.

>
> >>>>>Will Honea wrote:

>
> >>>>>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 12:34:44 -0800, The Merg wrote:

>
> >>>>>>>No, I still can't get in. I found this for what I'm trying to do:

>
> >>>>>>>"Now you are ready to pull the pivot pins out. There are two of them
> >>>>>>>going in the sides at about the 3:00 and 9:00 positions. They are about
> >>>>>>>3/8" in diameter and have a small hole threaded in the middle (#10-32 I
> >>>>>>>believe) I managed to break off a bolt in one of these which required
> >>>>>>>that I pull the entire steering column out to get the bolt drilled out
> >>>>>>>so be careful. The GM tool looks like this:
> >>>>>>> | |
> >>>>>>> | |<-----------threaded rod
> >>>>>>> | | |="===|" <------- nut
> >>>>>>> ____________ | | | |<------ semi circle housing | ||
> >>>>>>>| | || | || ||<--------threads into pivot pin
> >>>>>>>To use this you thread it into the pivot pin. Make sure that the
> >>>>>>>housing is solidly against the column, not interfering with the pivot
> >>>>>>>pin. Tighten the nut down while holding the threaded rod still to pull
> >>>>>>>the pivot pin out.

>
> >>>>>>>The tool that I first tried to make was similar to the above using a
> >>>>>>>bolt and a socket. I do not know what went wrong exactly but I broke
> >>>>>>>the bolt off inside the pivot pin.

>
> >>>>>>>The guy that drilled out the bolt said that you can pull the pins by
> >>>>>>>threading a bolt in and prying up with a pair of pliers."

>
> >>>>>>>I tried using a bolt and nut but I couldn't find a nut big enough.
> >>>>>>>Auto Zone had no idea what I was talking about - they recommended I
> >>>>>>>call the local Jeep dealer for some advice. They were also no help.
> >>>>>>>So I'm going to try doing it myself again. Wish me luck.

>
> >>>>>>When I did mine, I had to pull the pivots out and get the top part of
> >>>>>>the tilt assembly out of the way. Best I can remember, I used a socket
> >>>>>>big enough for the pin to slide into as a receiver then ran a longer
> >>>>>>stainless screw down thru the socket with a nut and washer to pull the pin
> >>>>>>out into the socket. Be careful sliding that top part off: there is a
> >>>>>>bearing with a plastic race at the top that you don't want to bugger. I
> >>>>>>couldn't see those bolts much less reach them until I pulled the top
> >>>>>>assembly off. Be sure you watch how it comes apart as it is a bit tricky
> >>>>>>to reassemble.

>
> >>>>>>--
> >>>>>>Will Honea <who...@yahoo.com>



The Merg 12-30-2006 09:00 PM

Re: Tilt steering repair
 
I didn't get a chance to hit the store or do any work today, but could
I hypothetically find PBblaster at a Track Boys Zone, NAPA, or similar
major chain auto parts store?

On Dec 30, 12:51 pm, Lon <lon.stow...@comcast.net> wrote:
> It might work better if you used penetrating oil rather than WD-40.
> PBblaster if you can find it locally.
>
> The Merg proclaimed:
>
> > Great idea Mike - I never pass up an opportunity to use excessive
> > amounts of WD-40.

>
> > I'll let everyone know how it goes tomorrow - and I'll take a picture
> > of my jerry-rigged tool.

>
> > Mike Romain wrote:

>
> >>I have seen washers collapse trying to do what you are so getting a
> >>couple or a really thick one might be in order.

>
> >>I would also recommend you spray the pins with penetrating oil tonight
> >>even.

>
> >>Mike

>
> >>The Merg wrote:

>
> >>>Haha...thanks Mike, I won't.
> >>>Mike Romain wrote:

>
> >>>>Don't forget the washer!

>
> >>>>Mike

>
> >>>>The Merg wrote:

>
> >>>>>Using a socket is a great idea. But I don't have a matching nut and
> >>>>>bolt that'll fit so I'll head to the store in the morning to pick
> >>>>>something up. Stay tuned, though, I'm sure I'll need help with
> >>>>>something else. Thanks a lot, everybody.

>
> >>>>>Will Honea wrote:

>
> >>>>>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 12:34:44 -0800, The Merg wrote:

>
> >>>>>>>No, I still can't get in. I found this for what I'm trying to do:

>
> >>>>>>>"Now you are ready to pull the pivot pins out. There are two of them
> >>>>>>>going in the sides at about the 3:00 and 9:00 positions. They are about
> >>>>>>>3/8" in diameter and have a small hole threaded in the middle (#10-32 I
> >>>>>>>believe) I managed to break off a bolt in one of these which required
> >>>>>>>that I pull the entire steering column out to get the bolt drilled out
> >>>>>>>so be careful. The GM tool looks like this:
> >>>>>>> | |
> >>>>>>> | |<-----------threaded rod
> >>>>>>> | | |="===|" <------- nut
> >>>>>>> ____________ | | | |<------ semi circle housing | ||
> >>>>>>>| | || | || ||<--------threads into pivot pin
> >>>>>>>To use this you thread it into the pivot pin. Make sure that the
> >>>>>>>housing is solidly against the column, not interfering with the pivot
> >>>>>>>pin. Tighten the nut down while holding the threaded rod still to pull
> >>>>>>>the pivot pin out.

>
> >>>>>>>The tool that I first tried to make was similar to the above using a
> >>>>>>>bolt and a socket. I do not know what went wrong exactly but I broke
> >>>>>>>the bolt off inside the pivot pin.

>
> >>>>>>>The guy that drilled out the bolt said that you can pull the pins by
> >>>>>>>threading a bolt in and prying up with a pair of pliers."

>
> >>>>>>>I tried using a bolt and nut but I couldn't find a nut big enough.
> >>>>>>>Auto Zone had no idea what I was talking about - they recommended I
> >>>>>>>call the local Jeep dealer for some advice. They were also no help.
> >>>>>>>So I'm going to try doing it myself again. Wish me luck.

>
> >>>>>>When I did mine, I had to pull the pivots out and get the top part of
> >>>>>>the tilt assembly out of the way. Best I can remember, I used a socket
> >>>>>>big enough for the pin to slide into as a receiver then ran a longer
> >>>>>>stainless screw down thru the socket with a nut and washer to pull the pin
> >>>>>>out into the socket. Be careful sliding that top part off: there is a
> >>>>>>bearing with a plastic race at the top that you don't want to bugger. I
> >>>>>>couldn't see those bolts much less reach them until I pulled the top
> >>>>>>assembly off. Be sure you watch how it comes apart as it is a bit tricky
> >>>>>>to reassemble.

>
> >>>>>>--
> >>>>>>Will Honea <who...@yahoo.com>



The Merg 12-30-2006 09:00 PM

Re: Tilt steering repair
 
I didn't get a chance to hit the store or do any work today, but could
I hypothetically find PBblaster at a Track Boys Zone, NAPA, or similar
major chain auto parts store?

On Dec 30, 12:51 pm, Lon <lon.stow...@comcast.net> wrote:
> It might work better if you used penetrating oil rather than WD-40.
> PBblaster if you can find it locally.
>
> The Merg proclaimed:
>
> > Great idea Mike - I never pass up an opportunity to use excessive
> > amounts of WD-40.

>
> > I'll let everyone know how it goes tomorrow - and I'll take a picture
> > of my jerry-rigged tool.

>
> > Mike Romain wrote:

>
> >>I have seen washers collapse trying to do what you are so getting a
> >>couple or a really thick one might be in order.

>
> >>I would also recommend you spray the pins with penetrating oil tonight
> >>even.

>
> >>Mike

>
> >>The Merg wrote:

>
> >>>Haha...thanks Mike, I won't.
> >>>Mike Romain wrote:

>
> >>>>Don't forget the washer!

>
> >>>>Mike

>
> >>>>The Merg wrote:

>
> >>>>>Using a socket is a great idea. But I don't have a matching nut and
> >>>>>bolt that'll fit so I'll head to the store in the morning to pick
> >>>>>something up. Stay tuned, though, I'm sure I'll need help with
> >>>>>something else. Thanks a lot, everybody.

>
> >>>>>Will Honea wrote:

>
> >>>>>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 12:34:44 -0800, The Merg wrote:

>
> >>>>>>>No, I still can't get in. I found this for what I'm trying to do:

>
> >>>>>>>"Now you are ready to pull the pivot pins out. There are two of them
> >>>>>>>going in the sides at about the 3:00 and 9:00 positions. They are about
> >>>>>>>3/8" in diameter and have a small hole threaded in the middle (#10-32 I
> >>>>>>>believe) I managed to break off a bolt in one of these which required
> >>>>>>>that I pull the entire steering column out to get the bolt drilled out
> >>>>>>>so be careful. The GM tool looks like this:
> >>>>>>> | |
> >>>>>>> | |<-----------threaded rod
> >>>>>>> | | |="===|" <------- nut
> >>>>>>> ____________ | | | |<------ semi circle housing | ||
> >>>>>>>| | || | || ||<--------threads into pivot pin
> >>>>>>>To use this you thread it into the pivot pin. Make sure that the
> >>>>>>>housing is solidly against the column, not interfering with the pivot
> >>>>>>>pin. Tighten the nut down while holding the threaded rod still to pull
> >>>>>>>the pivot pin out.

>
> >>>>>>>The tool that I first tried to make was similar to the above using a
> >>>>>>>bolt and a socket. I do not know what went wrong exactly but I broke
> >>>>>>>the bolt off inside the pivot pin.

>
> >>>>>>>The guy that drilled out the bolt said that you can pull the pins by
> >>>>>>>threading a bolt in and prying up with a pair of pliers."

>
> >>>>>>>I tried using a bolt and nut but I couldn't find a nut big enough.
> >>>>>>>Auto Zone had no idea what I was talking about - they recommended I
> >>>>>>>call the local Jeep dealer for some advice. They were also no help.
> >>>>>>>So I'm going to try doing it myself again. Wish me luck.

>
> >>>>>>When I did mine, I had to pull the pivots out and get the top part of
> >>>>>>the tilt assembly out of the way. Best I can remember, I used a socket
> >>>>>>big enough for the pin to slide into as a receiver then ran a longer
> >>>>>>stainless screw down thru the socket with a nut and washer to pull the pin
> >>>>>>out into the socket. Be careful sliding that top part off: there is a
> >>>>>>bearing with a plastic race at the top that you don't want to bugger. I
> >>>>>>couldn't see those bolts much less reach them until I pulled the top
> >>>>>>assembly off. Be sure you watch how it comes apart as it is a bit tricky
> >>>>>>to reassemble.

>
> >>>>>>--
> >>>>>>Will Honea <who...@yahoo.com>



DaveW 12-31-2006 01:27 AM

Re: Tilt steering repair
 
Yes, PBblaster and liquid Wrench will be there. Breakfree CLP is great
stuff too, but the auto parts stores usually don't have it. It is a good
thing to have one of the above on hand at all times.

Regards,

DAve

The Merg wrote:
> I didn't get a chance to hit the store or do any work today, but could
> I hypothetically find PBblaster at a Track Boys Zone, NAPA, or similar
> major chain auto parts store?
>
> On Dec 30, 12:51 pm, Lon <lon.stow...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> It might work better if you used penetrating oil rather than WD-40.
>> PBblaster if you can find it locally.
>>
>> The Merg proclaimed:
>>
>>> Great idea Mike - I never pass up an opportunity to use excessive
>>> amounts of WD-40.
>>> I'll let everyone know how it goes tomorrow - and I'll take a picture
>>> of my jerry-rigged tool.
>>> Mike Romain wrote:
>>>> I have seen washers collapse trying to do what you are so getting a
>>>> couple or a really thick one might be in order.
>>>> I would also recommend you spray the pins with penetrating oil tonight
>>>> even.
>>>> Mike
>>>> The Merg wrote:
>>>>> Haha...thanks Mike, I won't.
>>>>> Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>> Don't forget the washer!
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>> The Merg wrote:
>>>>>>> Using a socket is a great idea. But I don't have a matching nut and
>>>>>>> bolt that'll fit so I'll head to the store in the morning to pick
>>>>>>> something up. Stay tuned, though, I'm sure I'll need help with
>>>>>>> something else. Thanks a lot, everybody.
>>>>>>> Will Honea wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 12:34:44 -0800, The Merg wrote:
>>>>>>>>> No, I still can't get in. I found this for what I'm trying to do:
>>>>>>>>> "Now you are ready to pull the pivot pins out. There are two of them
>>>>>>>>> going in the sides at about the 3:00 and 9:00 positions. They are about
>>>>>>>>> 3/8" in diameter and have a small hole threaded in the middle (#10-32 I
>>>>>>>>> believe) I managed to break off a bolt in one of these which required
>>>>>>>>> that I pull the entire steering column out to get the bolt drilled out
>>>>>>>>> so be careful. The GM tool looks like this:
>>>>>>>>> | |
>>>>>>>>> | |<-----------threaded rod
>>>>>>>>> | | |="===|" <------- nut
>>>>>>>>> ____________ | | | |<------ semi circle housing | ||
>>>>>>>>> | | || | || ||<--------threads into pivot pin
>>>>>>>>> To use this you thread it into the pivot pin. Make sure that the
>>>>>>>>> housing is solidly against the column, not interfering with the pivot
>>>>>>>>> pin. Tighten the nut down while holding the threaded rod still to pull
>>>>>>>>> the pivot pin out.
>>>>>>>>> The tool that I first tried to make was similar to the above using a
>>>>>>>>> bolt and a socket. I do not know what went wrong exactly but I broke
>>>>>>>>> the bolt off inside the pivot pin.
>>>>>>>>> The guy that drilled out the bolt said that you can pull the pins by
>>>>>>>>> threading a bolt in and prying up with a pair of pliers."
>>>>>>>>> I tried using a bolt and nut but I couldn't find a nut big enough.
>>>>>>>>> Auto Zone had no idea what I was talking about - they recommended I
>>>>>>>>> call the local Jeep dealer for some advice. They were also no help.
>>>>>>>>> So I'm going to try doing it myself again. Wish me luck.
>>>>>>>> When I did mine, I had to pull the pivots out and get the top part of
>>>>>>>> the tilt assembly out of the way. Best I can remember, I used a socket
>>>>>>>> big enough for the pin to slide into as a receiver then ran a longer
>>>>>>>> stainless screw down thru the socket with a nut and washer to pull the pin
>>>>>>>> out into the socket. Be careful sliding that top part off: there is a
>>>>>>>> bearing with a plastic race at the top that you don't want to bugger. I
>>>>>>>> couldn't see those bolts much less reach them until I pulled the top
>>>>>>>> assembly off. Be sure you watch how it comes apart as it is a bit tricky
>>>>>>>> to reassemble.
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Will Honea <who...@yahoo.com>

>


DaveW 12-31-2006 01:27 AM

Re: Tilt steering repair
 
Yes, PBblaster and liquid Wrench will be there. Breakfree CLP is great
stuff too, but the auto parts stores usually don't have it. It is a good
thing to have one of the above on hand at all times.

Regards,

DAve

The Merg wrote:
> I didn't get a chance to hit the store or do any work today, but could
> I hypothetically find PBblaster at a Track Boys Zone, NAPA, or similar
> major chain auto parts store?
>
> On Dec 30, 12:51 pm, Lon <lon.stow...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> It might work better if you used penetrating oil rather than WD-40.
>> PBblaster if you can find it locally.
>>
>> The Merg proclaimed:
>>
>>> Great idea Mike - I never pass up an opportunity to use excessive
>>> amounts of WD-40.
>>> I'll let everyone know how it goes tomorrow - and I'll take a picture
>>> of my jerry-rigged tool.
>>> Mike Romain wrote:
>>>> I have seen washers collapse trying to do what you are so getting a
>>>> couple or a really thick one might be in order.
>>>> I would also recommend you spray the pins with penetrating oil tonight
>>>> even.
>>>> Mike
>>>> The Merg wrote:
>>>>> Haha...thanks Mike, I won't.
>>>>> Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>> Don't forget the washer!
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>> The Merg wrote:
>>>>>>> Using a socket is a great idea. But I don't have a matching nut and
>>>>>>> bolt that'll fit so I'll head to the store in the morning to pick
>>>>>>> something up. Stay tuned, though, I'm sure I'll need help with
>>>>>>> something else. Thanks a lot, everybody.
>>>>>>> Will Honea wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 12:34:44 -0800, The Merg wrote:
>>>>>>>>> No, I still can't get in. I found this for what I'm trying to do:
>>>>>>>>> "Now you are ready to pull the pivot pins out. There are two of them
>>>>>>>>> going in the sides at about the 3:00 and 9:00 positions. They are about
>>>>>>>>> 3/8" in diameter and have a small hole threaded in the middle (#10-32 I
>>>>>>>>> believe) I managed to break off a bolt in one of these which required
>>>>>>>>> that I pull the entire steering column out to get the bolt drilled out
>>>>>>>>> so be careful. The GM tool looks like this:
>>>>>>>>> | |
>>>>>>>>> | |<-----------threaded rod
>>>>>>>>> | | |="===|" <------- nut
>>>>>>>>> ____________ | | | |<------ semi circle housing | ||
>>>>>>>>> | | || | || ||<--------threads into pivot pin
>>>>>>>>> To use this you thread it into the pivot pin. Make sure that the
>>>>>>>>> housing is solidly against the column, not interfering with the pivot
>>>>>>>>> pin. Tighten the nut down while holding the threaded rod still to pull
>>>>>>>>> the pivot pin out.
>>>>>>>>> The tool that I first tried to make was similar to the above using a
>>>>>>>>> bolt and a socket. I do not know what went wrong exactly but I broke
>>>>>>>>> the bolt off inside the pivot pin.
>>>>>>>>> The guy that drilled out the bolt said that you can pull the pins by
>>>>>>>>> threading a bolt in and prying up with a pair of pliers."
>>>>>>>>> I tried using a bolt and nut but I couldn't find a nut big enough.
>>>>>>>>> Auto Zone had no idea what I was talking about - they recommended I
>>>>>>>>> call the local Jeep dealer for some advice. They were also no help.
>>>>>>>>> So I'm going to try doing it myself again. Wish me luck.
>>>>>>>> When I did mine, I had to pull the pivots out and get the top part of
>>>>>>>> the tilt assembly out of the way. Best I can remember, I used a socket
>>>>>>>> big enough for the pin to slide into as a receiver then ran a longer
>>>>>>>> stainless screw down thru the socket with a nut and washer to pull the pin
>>>>>>>> out into the socket. Be careful sliding that top part off: there is a
>>>>>>>> bearing with a plastic race at the top that you don't want to bugger. I
>>>>>>>> couldn't see those bolts much less reach them until I pulled the top
>>>>>>>> assembly off. Be sure you watch how it comes apart as it is a bit tricky
>>>>>>>> to reassemble.
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Will Honea <who...@yahoo.com>

>


DaveW 12-31-2006 01:27 AM

Re: Tilt steering repair
 
Yes, PBblaster and liquid Wrench will be there. Breakfree CLP is great
stuff too, but the auto parts stores usually don't have it. It is a good
thing to have one of the above on hand at all times.

Regards,

DAve

The Merg wrote:
> I didn't get a chance to hit the store or do any work today, but could
> I hypothetically find PBblaster at a Track Boys Zone, NAPA, or similar
> major chain auto parts store?
>
> On Dec 30, 12:51 pm, Lon <lon.stow...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> It might work better if you used penetrating oil rather than WD-40.
>> PBblaster if you can find it locally.
>>
>> The Merg proclaimed:
>>
>>> Great idea Mike - I never pass up an opportunity to use excessive
>>> amounts of WD-40.
>>> I'll let everyone know how it goes tomorrow - and I'll take a picture
>>> of my jerry-rigged tool.
>>> Mike Romain wrote:
>>>> I have seen washers collapse trying to do what you are so getting a
>>>> couple or a really thick one might be in order.
>>>> I would also recommend you spray the pins with penetrating oil tonight
>>>> even.
>>>> Mike
>>>> The Merg wrote:
>>>>> Haha...thanks Mike, I won't.
>>>>> Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>> Don't forget the washer!
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>> The Merg wrote:
>>>>>>> Using a socket is a great idea. But I don't have a matching nut and
>>>>>>> bolt that'll fit so I'll head to the store in the morning to pick
>>>>>>> something up. Stay tuned, though, I'm sure I'll need help with
>>>>>>> something else. Thanks a lot, everybody.
>>>>>>> Will Honea wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 12:34:44 -0800, The Merg wrote:
>>>>>>>>> No, I still can't get in. I found this for what I'm trying to do:
>>>>>>>>> "Now you are ready to pull the pivot pins out. There are two of them
>>>>>>>>> going in the sides at about the 3:00 and 9:00 positions. They are about
>>>>>>>>> 3/8" in diameter and have a small hole threaded in the middle (#10-32 I
>>>>>>>>> believe) I managed to break off a bolt in one of these which required
>>>>>>>>> that I pull the entire steering column out to get the bolt drilled out
>>>>>>>>> so be careful. The GM tool looks like this:
>>>>>>>>> | |
>>>>>>>>> | |<-----------threaded rod
>>>>>>>>> | | |="===|" <------- nut
>>>>>>>>> ____________ | | | |<------ semi circle housing | ||
>>>>>>>>> | | || | || ||<--------threads into pivot pin
>>>>>>>>> To use this you thread it into the pivot pin. Make sure that the
>>>>>>>>> housing is solidly against the column, not interfering with the pivot
>>>>>>>>> pin. Tighten the nut down while holding the threaded rod still to pull
>>>>>>>>> the pivot pin out.
>>>>>>>>> The tool that I first tried to make was similar to the above using a
>>>>>>>>> bolt and a socket. I do not know what went wrong exactly but I broke
>>>>>>>>> the bolt off inside the pivot pin.
>>>>>>>>> The guy that drilled out the bolt said that you can pull the pins by
>>>>>>>>> threading a bolt in and prying up with a pair of pliers."
>>>>>>>>> I tried using a bolt and nut but I couldn't find a nut big enough.
>>>>>>>>> Auto Zone had no idea what I was talking about - they recommended I
>>>>>>>>> call the local Jeep dealer for some advice. They were also no help.
>>>>>>>>> So I'm going to try doing it myself again. Wish me luck.
>>>>>>>> When I did mine, I had to pull the pivots out and get the top part of
>>>>>>>> the tilt assembly out of the way. Best I can remember, I used a socket
>>>>>>>> big enough for the pin to slide into as a receiver then ran a longer
>>>>>>>> stainless screw down thru the socket with a nut and washer to pull the pin
>>>>>>>> out into the socket. Be careful sliding that top part off: there is a
>>>>>>>> bearing with a plastic race at the top that you don't want to bugger. I
>>>>>>>> couldn't see those bolts much less reach them until I pulled the top
>>>>>>>> assembly off. Be sure you watch how it comes apart as it is a bit tricky
>>>>>>>> to reassemble.
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Will Honea <who...@yahoo.com>

>


The Merg 12-31-2006 04:50 PM

Re: Tilt steering repair
 
Got the PB blaster - worked great.
I finally got everything off after much consternation and a few
expletives.
For the life of me I couldn't get the main bit out - I ended up
removing a lot of unnecessary stuff and pulling the steering column out
- only to discover that all I had to do was reattach the lever for the
tilt wheel and disengage it. What a pain in the a$$.
I forgot to get locktite, so I'll reassemble everything tomorrow and
I'll post the pictures later tonight.

Thanks for all the help - I never would have been able to do this
without you guys.


Lon wrote:
> It might work better if you used penetrating oil rather than WD-40.
> PBblaster if you can find it locally.
>
>
> The Merg proclaimed:
>
> > Great idea Mike - I never pass up an opportunity to use excessive
> > amounts of WD-40.
> >
> > I'll let everyone know how it goes tomorrow - and I'll take a picture
> > of my jerry-rigged tool.
> >
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> >>I have seen washers collapse trying to do what you are so getting a
> >>couple or a really thick one might be in order.
> >>
> >>I would also recommend you spray the pins with penetrating oil tonight
> >>even.
> >>
> >>Mike
> >>
> >>The Merg wrote:
> >>
> >>>Haha...thanks Mike, I won't.
> >>>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Don't forget the washer!
> >>>>
> >>>>Mike
> >>>>
> >>>>The Merg wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>Using a socket is a great idea. But I don't have a matching nut and
> >>>>>bolt that'll fit so I'll head to the store in the morning to pick
> >>>>>something up. Stay tuned, though, I'm sure I'll need help with
> >>>>>something else. Thanks a lot, everybody.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Will Honea wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 12:34:44 -0800, The Merg wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>No, I still can't get in. I found this for what I'm trying to do:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>"Now you are ready to pull the pivot pins out. There are two of them
> >>>>>>>going in the sides at about the 3:00 and 9:00 positions. They are about
> >>>>>>>3/8" in diameter and have a small hole threaded in the middle (#10-32 I
> >>>>>>>believe) I managed to break off a bolt in one of these which required
> >>>>>>>that I pull the entire steering column out to get the bolt drilled out
> >>>>>>>so be careful. The GM tool looks like this:
> >>>>>>> | |
> >>>>>>> | |<-----------threaded rod
> >>>>>>> | | |="===|" <------- nut
> >>>>>>> ____________ | | | |<------ semi circle housing | ||
> >>>>>>>| | || | || ||<--------threads into pivot pin
> >>>>>>>To use this you thread it into the pivot pin. Make sure that the
> >>>>>>>housing is solidly against the column, not interfering with the pivot
> >>>>>>>pin. Tighten the nut down while holding the threaded rod still to pull
> >>>>>>>the pivot pin out.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>The tool that I first tried to make was similar to the above using a
> >>>>>>>bolt and a socket. I do not know what went wrong exactly but I broke
> >>>>>>>the bolt off inside the pivot pin.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>The guy that drilled out the bolt said that you can pull the pins by
> >>>>>>>threading a bolt in and prying up with a pair of pliers."
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>I tried using a bolt and nut but I couldn't find a nut big enough.
> >>>>>>>Auto Zone had no idea what I was talking about - they recommended I
> >>>>>>>call the local Jeep dealer for some advice. They were also no help.
> >>>>>>>So I'm going to try doing it myself again. Wish me luck.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>When I did mine, I had to pull the pivots out and get the top part of
> >>>>>>the tilt assembly out of the way. Best I can remember, I used a socket
> >>>>>>big enough for the pin to slide into as a receiver then ran a longer
> >>>>>>stainless screw down thru the socket with a nut and washer to pull the pin
> >>>>>>out into the socket. Be careful sliding that top part off: there is a
> >>>>>>bearing with a plastic race at the top that you don't want to bugger. I
> >>>>>>couldn't see those bolts much less reach them until I pulled the top
> >>>>>>assembly off. Be sure you watch how it comes apart as it is a bit tricky
> >>>>>>to reassemble.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>--
> >>>>>>Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com>

> >
> >




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