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aj_towle@hotmail.com 02-08-2006 09:10 AM

Tight turn groan
 
Hello all,
I have an '04 WJ with QuadraDrive, and when I do a tight turn,
after about 360 degrees of turning, I start to hear and feel a groan
coming from the front end. Is this normal? I took it to the stealer
yesterday, and he replaced the power steering, but it didn't make a
difference. Is this normal? I don't hear the noise if I just pull a
tight 180, it's just if I keep going and start the second complete
circle. It doesn't feel like anything is binding up (steering doesn't
wobble), but it does make a fairly disconcerting grrrrrrrrrrrrr.

Anyone else have a similar sound when doing tight turns?

TIA,
Andrew


Mike Romain 02-08-2006 09:22 AM

Re: Tight turn groan
 
Someone else recently posted about noise when doing slow turns in one of
those setups.

I would be guessing it has to do with the coupler between the front and
rear axles. Don't know if it is a serious issue or expected, but at
least you have it documented with the $tealer for future warranty
claims.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

aj_towle@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> Hello all,
> I have an '04 WJ with QuadraDrive, and when I do a tight turn,
> after about 360 degrees of turning, I start to hear and feel a groan
> coming from the front end. Is this normal? I took it to the stealer
> yesterday, and he replaced the power steering, but it didn't make a
> difference. Is this normal? I don't hear the noise if I just pull a
> tight 180, it's just if I keep going and start the second complete
> circle. It doesn't feel like anything is binding up (steering doesn't
> wobble), but it does make a fairly disconcerting grrrrrrrrrrrrr.
>
> Anyone else have a similar sound when doing tight turns?
>
> TIA,
> Andrew


Mike Romain 02-08-2006 09:22 AM

Re: Tight turn groan
 
Someone else recently posted about noise when doing slow turns in one of
those setups.

I would be guessing it has to do with the coupler between the front and
rear axles. Don't know if it is a serious issue or expected, but at
least you have it documented with the $tealer for future warranty
claims.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

aj_towle@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> Hello all,
> I have an '04 WJ with QuadraDrive, and when I do a tight turn,
> after about 360 degrees of turning, I start to hear and feel a groan
> coming from the front end. Is this normal? I took it to the stealer
> yesterday, and he replaced the power steering, but it didn't make a
> difference. Is this normal? I don't hear the noise if I just pull a
> tight 180, it's just if I keep going and start the second complete
> circle. It doesn't feel like anything is binding up (steering doesn't
> wobble), but it does make a fairly disconcerting grrrrrrrrrrrrr.
>
> Anyone else have a similar sound when doing tight turns?
>
> TIA,
> Andrew


Mike Romain 02-08-2006 09:22 AM

Re: Tight turn groan
 
Someone else recently posted about noise when doing slow turns in one of
those setups.

I would be guessing it has to do with the coupler between the front and
rear axles. Don't know if it is a serious issue or expected, but at
least you have it documented with the $tealer for future warranty
claims.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

aj_towle@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> Hello all,
> I have an '04 WJ with QuadraDrive, and when I do a tight turn,
> after about 360 degrees of turning, I start to hear and feel a groan
> coming from the front end. Is this normal? I took it to the stealer
> yesterday, and he replaced the power steering, but it didn't make a
> difference. Is this normal? I don't hear the noise if I just pull a
> tight 180, it's just if I keep going and start the second complete
> circle. It doesn't feel like anything is binding up (steering doesn't
> wobble), but it does make a fairly disconcerting grrrrrrrrrrrrr.
>
> Anyone else have a similar sound when doing tight turns?
>
> TIA,
> Andrew


philthy 02-08-2006 02:41 PM

Re: Tight turn groan
 
do you have the axles serviced at all
the axle fluid additive might not have been added

aj_towle@hotmail.com wrote:

> Hello all,
> I have an '04 WJ with QuadraDrive, and when I do a tight turn,
> after about 360 degrees of turning, I start to hear and feel a groan
> coming from the front end. Is this normal? I took it to the stealer
> yesterday, and he replaced the power steering, but it didn't make a
> difference. Is this normal? I don't hear the noise if I just pull a
> tight 180, it's just if I keep going and start the second complete
> circle. It doesn't feel like anything is binding up (steering doesn't
> wobble), but it does make a fairly disconcerting grrrrrrrrrrrrr.
>
> Anyone else have a similar sound when doing tight turns?
>
> TIA,
> Andrew



philthy 02-08-2006 02:41 PM

Re: Tight turn groan
 
do you have the axles serviced at all
the axle fluid additive might not have been added

aj_towle@hotmail.com wrote:

> Hello all,
> I have an '04 WJ with QuadraDrive, and when I do a tight turn,
> after about 360 degrees of turning, I start to hear and feel a groan
> coming from the front end. Is this normal? I took it to the stealer
> yesterday, and he replaced the power steering, but it didn't make a
> difference. Is this normal? I don't hear the noise if I just pull a
> tight 180, it's just if I keep going and start the second complete
> circle. It doesn't feel like anything is binding up (steering doesn't
> wobble), but it does make a fairly disconcerting grrrrrrrrrrrrr.
>
> Anyone else have a similar sound when doing tight turns?
>
> TIA,
> Andrew



philthy 02-08-2006 02:41 PM

Re: Tight turn groan
 
do you have the axles serviced at all
the axle fluid additive might not have been added

aj_towle@hotmail.com wrote:

> Hello all,
> I have an '04 WJ with QuadraDrive, and when I do a tight turn,
> after about 360 degrees of turning, I start to hear and feel a groan
> coming from the front end. Is this normal? I took it to the stealer
> yesterday, and he replaced the power steering, but it didn't make a
> difference. Is this normal? I don't hear the noise if I just pull a
> tight 180, it's just if I keep going and start the second complete
> circle. It doesn't feel like anything is binding up (steering doesn't
> wobble), but it does make a fairly disconcerting grrrrrrrrrrrrr.
>
> Anyone else have a similar sound when doing tight turns?
>
> TIA,
> Andrew



aj_towle@hotmail.com 02-08-2006 04:31 PM

Re: Tight turn groan
 
I did have the axles serviced a few K ago, and their invoice stated
they included the additive. Would that cause the groaning if they
forgot? What would happen if I added some more of the additive to see
if the groan went away, and they DID add the additive? Can you have
too much? Would it be better to just take it to the dealer, have them
do the axles again, pay an insane amount of money, but have the peace
of mind that it was done right?


aj_towle@hotmail.com 02-08-2006 04:31 PM

Re: Tight turn groan
 
I did have the axles serviced a few K ago, and their invoice stated
they included the additive. Would that cause the groaning if they
forgot? What would happen if I added some more of the additive to see
if the groan went away, and they DID add the additive? Can you have
too much? Would it be better to just take it to the dealer, have them
do the axles again, pay an insane amount of money, but have the peace
of mind that it was done right?


aj_towle@hotmail.com 02-08-2006 04:31 PM

Re: Tight turn groan
 
I did have the axles serviced a few K ago, and their invoice stated
they included the additive. Would that cause the groaning if they
forgot? What would happen if I added some more of the additive to see
if the groan went away, and they DID add the additive? Can you have
too much? Would it be better to just take it to the dealer, have them
do the axles again, pay an insane amount of money, but have the peace
of mind that it was done right?



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