Re: Throttle return spring mystery solved.
 

More likely DeLay or Santorum.

"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:f0e52$442c14d0$4831b233$18746@FUSE.NET...
> Someone in the big 3 probably paid off Teddy or Hilary to get the rule
> changed if there was one.
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:442bfeb9$0$20263$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.c om...
>>I thought that double throttle return springs were a federally mandated
>> safety measure. I must admit that I haven't thought much about it
>> though.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
>> news:c192d$442b5d36$4831b233$18797@FUSE.NET...
>>> Are they required on vehicles with throttle bodies?
>>>
>>> It isn't like the old days when a broken spring would result in an over
>>> revved motor.....throttle bodies have no control over the fuel supply.
>>>
>>>
>>> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>>> news:442B55BD.D4142D5@cox.net...
>>> > Now you may take your car on to a drag strip, like the Real Jeeps:
>>> > http://----------.com/dragjeeps/
>>> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>> >
>>> > JD Adams wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Okay, here's the deal:
>>> >>
>>> >> Talked to a parts guy this afternoon. He is smart. He told me that
>>> >> assembly line streamlining from 2005 on mandated that the offensive
>>> >> primary throttle return spring be eliminated. Sort of.
>>> >>
>>> >> In the 05/06 TJ's, there are two springs: one in the throttle body,
>>> >> one
>>> >> on the automatic transmission linkage. For those of us with 6-sp.
>>> >> transmissions, well, we get to suck it up and do without. As he
>>> >> stated, "You're tough: you can take it."
>>> >>
>>> >> Well, I'm tough, but I can't take it. I paid serious bucks for this
>>> >> horse, and I want all of the springs I'm entitled to! So, today, I
>>> >> made a pilgramage to the local OSH for a look-see, and ended up
>>> >> filling
>>> >> the gap quite nicely. My throttle response now works as expected.
>>> >>
>>> >> More information is available at:
>>> >>
>>> >> http://207.13.104.8/users/jdadams
>>> >>
>>> >> Check Hidalgo's Private Garage for the information you seek. If this
>>> >> was DC's idea of cost-cutting measures, I am not amused.
>>> >>
>>> >> -JD
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: Throttle return spring mystery solved.
 

Here is what I did today to install my missing throttle spring.

http://www.tmar.net/throttle_spring.htm

I drove it for about 15 minutes after the install, and it does seem to have
a much better throttle feel now.

Tom

"mabar" <xyzz4569@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
news:442bdbdd_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> Thanks for the detailed info.
>
> Tom
> "JD Adams" <JDAdams@Softcom.Net> wrote in message
> news:1143688206.952823.22060@g10g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> > Okay, here's the deal:
> >
> > Talked to a parts guy this afternoon. He is smart. He told me that
> > assembly line streamlining from 2005 on mandated that the offensive
> > primary throttle return spring be eliminated. Sort of.
> >
> > In the 05/06 TJ's, there are two springs: one in the throttle body, one
> > on the automatic transmission linkage. For those of us with 6-sp.
> > transmissions, well, we get to suck it up and do without. As he
> > stated, "You're tough: you can take it."
> >
> > Well, I'm tough, but I can't take it. I paid serious bucks for this
> > horse, and I want all of the springs I'm entitled to! So, today, I
> > made a pilgramage to the local OSH for a look-see, and ended up filling
> > the gap quite nicely. My throttle response now works as expected.
> >
> > More information is available at:
> >
> > http://207.13.104.8/users/jdadams
> >
> > Check Hidalgo's Private Garage for the information you seek. If this
> > was DC's idea of cost-cutting measures, I am not amused.
> >
> > -JD
> >
>
>

Re: Throttle return spring mystery solved.
 

Here is what I did today to install my missing throttle spring.

http://www.tmar.net/throttle_spring.htm

I drove it for about 15 minutes after the install, and it does seem to have
a much better throttle feel now.

Tom

"mabar" <xyzz4569@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
news:442bdbdd_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> Thanks for the detailed info.
>
> Tom
> "JD Adams" <JDAdams@Softcom.Net> wrote in message
> news:1143688206.952823.22060@g10g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> > Okay, here's the deal:
> >
> > Talked to a parts guy this afternoon. He is smart. He told me that
> > assembly line streamlining from 2005 on mandated that the offensive
> > primary throttle return spring be eliminated. Sort of.
> >
> > In the 05/06 TJ's, there are two springs: one in the throttle body, one
> > on the automatic transmission linkage. For those of us with 6-sp.
> > transmissions, well, we get to suck it up and do without. As he
> > stated, "You're tough: you can take it."
> >
> > Well, I'm tough, but I can't take it. I paid serious bucks for this
> > horse, and I want all of the springs I'm entitled to! So, today, I
> > made a pilgramage to the local OSH for a look-see, and ended up filling
> > the gap quite nicely. My throttle response now works as expected.
> >
> > More information is available at:
> >
> > http://207.13.104.8/users/jdadams
> >
> > Check Hidalgo's Private Garage for the information you seek. If this
> > was DC's idea of cost-cutting measures, I am not amused.
> >
> > -JD
> >
>
>

Re: Throttle return spring mystery solved.
 

Here is what I did today to install my missing throttle spring.

http://www.tmar.net/throttle_spring.htm

I drove it for about 15 minutes after the install, and it does seem to have
a much better throttle feel now.

Tom

"mabar" <xyzz4569@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
news:442bdbdd_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> Thanks for the detailed info.
>
> Tom
> "JD Adams" <JDAdams@Softcom.Net> wrote in message
> news:1143688206.952823.22060@g10g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> > Okay, here's the deal:
> >
> > Talked to a parts guy this afternoon. He is smart. He told me that
> > assembly line streamlining from 2005 on mandated that the offensive
> > primary throttle return spring be eliminated. Sort of.
> >
> > In the 05/06 TJ's, there are two springs: one in the throttle body, one
> > on the automatic transmission linkage. For those of us with 6-sp.
> > transmissions, well, we get to suck it up and do without. As he
> > stated, "You're tough: you can take it."
> >
> > Well, I'm tough, but I can't take it. I paid serious bucks for this
> > horse, and I want all of the springs I'm entitled to! So, today, I
> > made a pilgramage to the local OSH for a look-see, and ended up filling
> > the gap quite nicely. My throttle response now works as expected.
> >
> > More information is available at:
> >
> > http://207.13.104.8/users/jdadams
> >
> > Check Hidalgo's Private Garage for the information you seek. If this
> > was DC's idea of cost-cutting measures, I am not amused.
> >
> > -JD
> >
>
>

Re: Throttle return spring mystery solved.
 

$3.64 eh? The local Stealership wanted almost $7 for one. Big
difference after one of these are installed. Easing it over bumps at
low speed used to be really tough to do gracefully, but no more.

I've got a neighbor with a PT Cruiser that's thinking about doing the
same thing; the primary spring does not exist on that either.

Re: Throttle return spring mystery solved.
 

$3.64 eh? The local Stealership wanted almost $7 for one. Big
difference after one of these are installed. Easing it over bumps at
low speed used to be really tough to do gracefully, but no more.

I've got a neighbor with a PT Cruiser that's thinking about doing the
same thing; the primary spring does not exist on that either.

Re: Throttle return spring mystery solved.
 

$3.64 eh? The local Stealership wanted almost $7 for one. Big
difference after one of these are installed. Easing it over bumps at
low speed used to be really tough to do gracefully, but no more.

I've got a neighbor with a PT Cruiser that's thinking about doing the
same thing; the primary spring does not exist on that either.

Re: Throttle return spring mystery solved.
 

mabar did pass the time by typing:
> Here is what I did today to install my missing throttle spring.
>
> http://www.tmar.net/throttle_spring.htm
>
> I drove it for about 15 minutes after the install, and it does seem to have
> a much better throttle feel now.

Might want to back those nuts off and put on
some red threadlocker. That will help keep them from
rattling off.

A old-timer trick is to slightly press the nuts in a vice to
take them out of round and give them more grip.

--
DougW

Re: Throttle return spring mystery solved.
 

mabar did pass the time by typing:
> Here is what I did today to install my missing throttle spring.
>
> http://www.tmar.net/throttle_spring.htm
>
> I drove it for about 15 minutes after the install, and it does seem to have
> a much better throttle feel now.

Might want to back those nuts off and put on
some red threadlocker. That will help keep them from
rattling off.

A old-timer trick is to slightly press the nuts in a vice to
take them out of round and give them more grip.

--
DougW

Re: Throttle return spring mystery solved.
 

mabar did pass the time by typing:
> Here is what I did today to install my missing throttle spring.
>
> http://www.tmar.net/throttle_spring.htm
>
> I drove it for about 15 minutes after the install, and it does seem to have
> a much better throttle feel now.

Might want to back those nuts off and put on
some red threadlocker. That will help keep them from
rattling off.

A old-timer trick is to slightly press the nuts in a vice to
take them out of round and give them more grip.

--
DougW