Re: Though Jeep, Libty is 100% girl car
 

Individually I may feel sorry for an independent trucker, but if the
truckers hadn't screwed the railroads so royally, neither of the two
might be in as much trouble as they are.


Edward L. Dowdy proclaimed:

> Since I work for a RR. I am for that.
>
> :)
> Ed
>
> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1130219878.080963.23850@z14g2000cwz.googlegro ups.com...
>
> L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
>
>>What makes you act like an idiot? it was Mercedes that started this
>>flood of dirty cars, that eat into the truckers profits. If it wasn't
>>for them no one would have bought that VW Golf in '79 that lasted about
>>another year, but further opened the door. Like all bleeding heart
>>liberals, I doubt you'll understand.
>>
>
>
>
> -------- -------- -------- -------- --------.
>
> Mercedes Benz sold diesels, but not very many. Peugeot did too then
> you had VW and Oldsmobile. But none of them burned diesel fuel like the
> PowerStrokes and Duramaxes and Dodge Ram Cumminses. They are the
> consumers of diesel fuel, not the piddling few Benzes.
>
> Studebaker and Checker Cab offered diesels too back then. You could
> get a factory Perkins, I think, in a Lark. Checker Cab had a British
> Ford engine optional I think. They sold very few, but neither did Benz.
>
> Maybe we should jack truckers' costs to force freight back on the
> railroads where it belongs anyway.
>
>

Re: Though Jeep, Libty is 100% girl car
 

Individually I may feel sorry for an independent trucker, but if the
truckers hadn't screwed the railroads so royally, neither of the two
might be in as much trouble as they are.


Edward L. Dowdy proclaimed:

> Since I work for a RR. I am for that.
>
> :)
> Ed
>
> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1130219878.080963.23850@z14g2000cwz.googlegro ups.com...
>
> L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
>
>>What makes you act like an idiot? it was Mercedes that started this
>>flood of dirty cars, that eat into the truckers profits. If it wasn't
>>for them no one would have bought that VW Golf in '79 that lasted about
>>another year, but further opened the door. Like all bleeding heart
>>liberals, I doubt you'll understand.
>>
>
>
>
> -------- -------- -------- -------- --------.
>
> Mercedes Benz sold diesels, but not very many. Peugeot did too then
> you had VW and Oldsmobile. But none of them burned diesel fuel like the
> PowerStrokes and Duramaxes and Dodge Ram Cumminses. They are the
> consumers of diesel fuel, not the piddling few Benzes.
>
> Studebaker and Checker Cab offered diesels too back then. You could
> get a factory Perkins, I think, in a Lark. Checker Cab had a British
> Ford engine optional I think. They sold very few, but neither did Benz.
>
> Maybe we should jack truckers' costs to force freight back on the
> railroads where it belongs anyway.
>
>

Re: Though Jeep, Libty is 100% girl car
 

I think one of us is hallucinating and I don't think it was me, but
diesel pumps were pretty much standard in many area gas/fuel stations
other than the traditional truck stops. The specific regions I recall
were in rather "open" territory [having worked at one such] where
stations were still car, truck, and actually offered repair services.


L.W.(ßill) ------ III proclaimed:

> It was Mercedes that open the door back in about '75 and force the
> oil companies to build service stations for them, drive up the product
> price.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
>> It's a fool's errand to argue with Bill, of course. But any others can
>>figure that since Mercedes Benz at their peak never sold enough diesel
>>cars in a whole year for every car owner on Staten Island to own one,
>>the total effect or them on fuel prices was negligible. I'm sure
>>Mercedes engines in Carrier and ThermoKing truck reefer units burned
>>more diesel than did Mercedes engines in cars.
>>
>> One of those old pushrod OMs would sure go good in an old flatfender
>>though, wouldn't it? And you can get them for a couple hundred bucks.

Re: Though Jeep, Libty is 100% girl car
 

I think one of us is hallucinating and I don't think it was me, but
diesel pumps were pretty much standard in many area gas/fuel stations
other than the traditional truck stops. The specific regions I recall
were in rather "open" territory [having worked at one such] where
stations were still car, truck, and actually offered repair services.


L.W.(ßill) ------ III proclaimed:

> It was Mercedes that open the door back in about '75 and force the
> oil companies to build service stations for them, drive up the product
> price.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
>> It's a fool's errand to argue with Bill, of course. But any others can
>>figure that since Mercedes Benz at their peak never sold enough diesel
>>cars in a whole year for every car owner on Staten Island to own one,
>>the total effect or them on fuel prices was negligible. I'm sure
>>Mercedes engines in Carrier and ThermoKing truck reefer units burned
>>more diesel than did Mercedes engines in cars.
>>
>> One of those old pushrod OMs would sure go good in an old flatfender
>>though, wouldn't it? And you can get them for a couple hundred bucks.

Re: Though Jeep, Libty is 100% girl car
 

I think one of us is hallucinating and I don't think it was me, but
diesel pumps were pretty much standard in many area gas/fuel stations
other than the traditional truck stops. The specific regions I recall
were in rather "open" territory [having worked at one such] where
stations were still car, truck, and actually offered repair services.


L.W.(ßill) ------ III proclaimed:

> It was Mercedes that open the door back in about '75 and force the
> oil companies to build service stations for them, drive up the product
> price.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
>> It's a fool's errand to argue with Bill, of course. But any others can
>>figure that since Mercedes Benz at their peak never sold enough diesel
>>cars in a whole year for every car owner on Staten Island to own one,
>>the total effect or them on fuel prices was negligible. I'm sure
>>Mercedes engines in Carrier and ThermoKing truck reefer units burned
>>more diesel than did Mercedes engines in cars.
>>
>> One of those old pushrod OMs would sure go good in an old flatfender
>>though, wouldn't it? And you can get them for a couple hundred bucks.

Re: Though Jeep, Libty is 100% girl car
 

Mike Romain wrote:
> Jason Backshall wrote:
> >
> > "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:435BEBF4.6C3B0B9E@cox.net...
> > > Diesels are too dirty and against the law here in God's country:
> >
> > A well-tuned diesel can be cleaner than a vehicle running ULP.
> >
> > J.
>
> Well, is ULP 'bunker C'?

ROTFLMAO!!

Bunker C is a heavy oil that is like tar at room temperature. It's
used by BIG diesel and steam ships and power plants. Even gas turbines
can't handle it, the railroads tried and ate hot sections like popcorn.
The ship diesels have to start on #2 Diesel and switch over unless they
have steam fuel line heaters. I don't think any diesel engine smaller
than 8" bore could run on it. Certainly not a bus.

Re: Though Jeep, Libty is 100% girl car
 

Mike Romain wrote:
> Jason Backshall wrote:
> >
> > "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:435BEBF4.6C3B0B9E@cox.net...
> > > Diesels are too dirty and against the law here in God's country:
> >
> > A well-tuned diesel can be cleaner than a vehicle running ULP.
> >
> > J.
>
> Well, is ULP 'bunker C'?

ROTFLMAO!!

Bunker C is a heavy oil that is like tar at room temperature. It's
used by BIG diesel and steam ships and power plants. Even gas turbines
can't handle it, the railroads tried and ate hot sections like popcorn.
The ship diesels have to start on #2 Diesel and switch over unless they
have steam fuel line heaters. I don't think any diesel engine smaller
than 8" bore could run on it. Certainly not a bus.

Re: Though Jeep, Libty is 100% girl car
 

Mike Romain wrote:
> Jason Backshall wrote:
> >
> > "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:435BEBF4.6C3B0B9E@cox.net...
> > > Diesels are too dirty and against the law here in God's country:
> >
> > A well-tuned diesel can be cleaner than a vehicle running ULP.
> >
> > J.
>
> Well, is ULP 'bunker C'?

ROTFLMAO!!

Bunker C is a heavy oil that is like tar at room temperature. It's
used by BIG diesel and steam ships and power plants. Even gas turbines
can't handle it, the railroads tried and ate hot sections like popcorn.
The ship diesels have to start on #2 Diesel and switch over unless they
have steam fuel line heaters. I don't think any diesel engine smaller
than 8" bore could run on it. Certainly not a bus.

Re: Though Jeep, Libty is 100% girl car
 

Jason Backshall proclaimed:

> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:435BEBF4.6C3B0B9E@cox.net...
>
>> Diesels are too dirty and against the law here in God's country:
>
>
>
> A well-tuned diesel can be cleaner than a vehicle running ULP.

Particulates and aerosols. Dirty little secret those aerosols that
the diesel folks simply mutter about when asked. Far more damaging
to humans than sucking the exhaust of an Excursion with a leaking
injector.

Re: Though Jeep, Libty is 100% girl car
 

Jason Backshall proclaimed:

> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:435BEBF4.6C3B0B9E@cox.net...
>
>> Diesels are too dirty and against the law here in God's country:
>
>
>
> A well-tuned diesel can be cleaner than a vehicle running ULP.

Particulates and aerosols. Dirty little secret those aerosols that
the diesel folks simply mutter about when asked. Far more damaging
to humans than sucking the exhaust of an Excursion with a leaking
injector.