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Danny Bains 02-28-2004 09:29 PM

Thanks for the help... another question
 
Thanks to everyone who helped me get the oil pan and rear seal off my CJ7.
I have everything torn down and will put it back together tomorrow -- still
got to clean the old gasket off the oil pan and block. btw, how clean do
the oil pan and block need to be? Also, I lossened the bearing caps, so
what is the torque pattern for tighening them back -- I know the spec is 80
pounds? What is the torque pattern for the oil pan? Thanks.


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William Oliveri 02-28-2004 09:49 PM

Re: Thanks for the help... another question
 

My FSM says
"Connecting Rod Bolt Nuts"
Torque = 33 ft lbs for "Service Set-to torque",
Torque = 30 - 35 ft lbs for "Service In-Use Recheck Torque"

That's for the I-6, 258.

If you're talking about the exterier of the block and oil pan then that's up
to you. I cleaned mine off so I can detect oil leaks in the future.

As far as the oil pan goes, I don't think there's a "torque pattern". I
would just go from center to outer and from side to side.

Bill



"Danny Bains" <lookatme@123.com> wrote in message
news:jeGdnVFgn6Ph1tzdRVn-gg@comcast.com...
> Thanks to everyone who helped me get the oil pan and rear seal off my CJ7.
> I have everything torn down and will put it back together tomorrow --

still
> got to clean the old gasket off the oil pan and block. btw, how clean do
> the oil pan and block need to be? Also, I lossened the bearing caps, so
> what is the torque pattern for tighening them back -- I know the spec is

80
> pounds? What is the torque pattern for the oil pan? Thanks.
>
>
> --
> Say NO! To TCPA! http://www.againsttcpa.com
> What's Microsoft up to: http://www.euronet.nl/users/frankvw/IhateMS.html
>
>




William Oliveri 02-28-2004 09:49 PM

Re: Thanks for the help... another question
 

My FSM says
"Connecting Rod Bolt Nuts"
Torque = 33 ft lbs for "Service Set-to torque",
Torque = 30 - 35 ft lbs for "Service In-Use Recheck Torque"

That's for the I-6, 258.

If you're talking about the exterier of the block and oil pan then that's up
to you. I cleaned mine off so I can detect oil leaks in the future.

As far as the oil pan goes, I don't think there's a "torque pattern". I
would just go from center to outer and from side to side.

Bill



"Danny Bains" <lookatme@123.com> wrote in message
news:jeGdnVFgn6Ph1tzdRVn-gg@comcast.com...
> Thanks to everyone who helped me get the oil pan and rear seal off my CJ7.
> I have everything torn down and will put it back together tomorrow --

still
> got to clean the old gasket off the oil pan and block. btw, how clean do
> the oil pan and block need to be? Also, I lossened the bearing caps, so
> what is the torque pattern for tighening them back -- I know the spec is

80
> pounds? What is the torque pattern for the oil pan? Thanks.
>
>
> --
> Say NO! To TCPA! http://www.againsttcpa.com
> What's Microsoft up to: http://www.euronet.nl/users/frankvw/IhateMS.html
>
>




William Oliveri 02-28-2004 09:49 PM

Re: Thanks for the help... another question
 

My FSM says
"Connecting Rod Bolt Nuts"
Torque = 33 ft lbs for "Service Set-to torque",
Torque = 30 - 35 ft lbs for "Service In-Use Recheck Torque"

That's for the I-6, 258.

If you're talking about the exterier of the block and oil pan then that's up
to you. I cleaned mine off so I can detect oil leaks in the future.

As far as the oil pan goes, I don't think there's a "torque pattern". I
would just go from center to outer and from side to side.

Bill



"Danny Bains" <lookatme@123.com> wrote in message
news:jeGdnVFgn6Ph1tzdRVn-gg@comcast.com...
> Thanks to everyone who helped me get the oil pan and rear seal off my CJ7.
> I have everything torn down and will put it back together tomorrow --

still
> got to clean the old gasket off the oil pan and block. btw, how clean do
> the oil pan and block need to be? Also, I lossened the bearing caps, so
> what is the torque pattern for tighening them back -- I know the spec is

80
> pounds? What is the torque pattern for the oil pan? Thanks.
>
>
> --
> Say NO! To TCPA! http://www.againsttcpa.com
> What's Microsoft up to: http://www.euronet.nl/users/frankvw/IhateMS.html
>
>




CRWLR 02-28-2004 10:29 PM

Re: Thanks for the help... another question
 
The pattern for the bearing caps is

13 9 5 1 4 8 12
| | | | | | |
14 10 6 2 3 7 11

Bill gave you the torque specs already.




"Danny Bains" <lookatme@123.com> wrote in message
news:jeGdnVFgn6Ph1tzdRVn-gg@comcast.com...
> Thanks to everyone who helped me get the oil pan and rear seal off my CJ7.
> I have everything torn down and will put it back together tomorrow --

still
> got to clean the old gasket off the oil pan and block. btw, how clean do
> the oil pan and block need to be? Also, I lossened the bearing caps, so
> what is the torque pattern for tighening them back -- I know the spec is

80
> pounds? What is the torque pattern for the oil pan? Thanks.
>
>
> --
> Say NO! To TCPA! http://www.againsttcpa.com
> What's Microsoft up to: http://www.euronet.nl/users/frankvw/IhateMS.html
>
>




CRWLR 02-28-2004 10:29 PM

Re: Thanks for the help... another question
 
The pattern for the bearing caps is

13 9 5 1 4 8 12
| | | | | | |
14 10 6 2 3 7 11

Bill gave you the torque specs already.




"Danny Bains" <lookatme@123.com> wrote in message
news:jeGdnVFgn6Ph1tzdRVn-gg@comcast.com...
> Thanks to everyone who helped me get the oil pan and rear seal off my CJ7.
> I have everything torn down and will put it back together tomorrow --

still
> got to clean the old gasket off the oil pan and block. btw, how clean do
> the oil pan and block need to be? Also, I lossened the bearing caps, so
> what is the torque pattern for tighening them back -- I know the spec is

80
> pounds? What is the torque pattern for the oil pan? Thanks.
>
>
> --
> Say NO! To TCPA! http://www.againsttcpa.com
> What's Microsoft up to: http://www.euronet.nl/users/frankvw/IhateMS.html
>
>




CRWLR 02-28-2004 10:29 PM

Re: Thanks for the help... another question
 
The pattern for the bearing caps is

13 9 5 1 4 8 12
| | | | | | |
14 10 6 2 3 7 11

Bill gave you the torque specs already.




"Danny Bains" <lookatme@123.com> wrote in message
news:jeGdnVFgn6Ph1tzdRVn-gg@comcast.com...
> Thanks to everyone who helped me get the oil pan and rear seal off my CJ7.
> I have everything torn down and will put it back together tomorrow --

still
> got to clean the old gasket off the oil pan and block. btw, how clean do
> the oil pan and block need to be? Also, I lossened the bearing caps, so
> what is the torque pattern for tighening them back -- I know the spec is

80
> pounds? What is the torque pattern for the oil pan? Thanks.
>
>
> --
> Say NO! To TCPA! http://www.againsttcpa.com
> What's Microsoft up to: http://www.euronet.nl/users/frankvw/IhateMS.html
>
>




Danny Bains 02-28-2004 11:02 PM

Re: Thanks for the help... another question
 
William Oliveri wrote:

>
> My FSM says
> "Connecting Rod Bolt Nuts"
> Torque = 33 ft lbs for "Service Set-to torque",
> Torque = 30 - 35 ft lbs for "Service In-Use Recheck Torque"
>
> That's for the I-6, 258.
>
> If you're talking about the exterier of the block and oil pan then that's
> up
> to you. I cleaned mine off so I can detect oil leaks in the future.
>
> As far as the oil pan goes, I don't think there's a "torque pattern". I
> would just go from center to outer and from side to side.
>
> Bill
>



Thanks Bill. I found this article and it says to use 80 ft pounds.

Danny Bains 02-28-2004 11:02 PM

Re: Thanks for the help... another question
 
William Oliveri wrote:

>
> My FSM says
> "Connecting Rod Bolt Nuts"
> Torque = 33 ft lbs for "Service Set-to torque",
> Torque = 30 - 35 ft lbs for "Service In-Use Recheck Torque"
>
> That's for the I-6, 258.
>
> If you're talking about the exterier of the block and oil pan then that's
> up
> to you. I cleaned mine off so I can detect oil leaks in the future.
>
> As far as the oil pan goes, I don't think there's a "torque pattern". I
> would just go from center to outer and from side to side.
>
> Bill
>



Thanks Bill. I found this article and it says to use 80 ft pounds.

Danny Bains 02-28-2004 11:02 PM

Re: Thanks for the help... another question
 
William Oliveri wrote:

>
> My FSM says
> "Connecting Rod Bolt Nuts"
> Torque = 33 ft lbs for "Service Set-to torque",
> Torque = 30 - 35 ft lbs for "Service In-Use Recheck Torque"
>
> That's for the I-6, 258.
>
> If you're talking about the exterier of the block and oil pan then that's
> up
> to you. I cleaned mine off so I can detect oil leaks in the future.
>
> As far as the oil pan goes, I don't think there's a "torque pattern". I
> would just go from center to outer and from side to side.
>
> Bill
>



Thanks Bill. I found this article and it says to use 80 ft pounds.

c 02-29-2004 12:45 AM

Re: Thanks for the help... another question
 

"Danny Bains" <lookatme@123.com> wrote in message
news:_aKdnTb1hKrT_NzdRVn-uA@comcast.com...
> William Oliveri wrote:
>
> >
> > My FSM says
> > "Connecting Rod Bolt Nuts"
> > Torque = 33 ft lbs for "Service Set-to torque",
> > Torque = 30 - 35 ft lbs for "Service In-Use Recheck Torque"
> >
> > That's for the I-6, 258.
> >
> > If you're talking about the exterier of the block and oil pan then

that's
> > up
> > to you. I cleaned mine off so I can detect oil leaks in the future.
> >
> > As far as the oil pan goes, I don't think there's a "torque pattern". I
> > would just go from center to outer and from side to side.
> >
> > Bill
> >

>
>
> Thanks Bill. I found this article and it says to use 80 ft pounds.


Just to clarify, that is the spec for the main bearings. The rod bearing
torque is the 33 that Bill stated. Torquing a rod cap to main specs does
bad, bad things.

Chris



c 02-29-2004 12:45 AM

Re: Thanks for the help... another question
 

"Danny Bains" <lookatme@123.com> wrote in message
news:_aKdnTb1hKrT_NzdRVn-uA@comcast.com...
> William Oliveri wrote:
>
> >
> > My FSM says
> > "Connecting Rod Bolt Nuts"
> > Torque = 33 ft lbs for "Service Set-to torque",
> > Torque = 30 - 35 ft lbs for "Service In-Use Recheck Torque"
> >
> > That's for the I-6, 258.
> >
> > If you're talking about the exterier of the block and oil pan then

that's
> > up
> > to you. I cleaned mine off so I can detect oil leaks in the future.
> >
> > As far as the oil pan goes, I don't think there's a "torque pattern". I
> > would just go from center to outer and from side to side.
> >
> > Bill
> >

>
>
> Thanks Bill. I found this article and it says to use 80 ft pounds.


Just to clarify, that is the spec for the main bearings. The rod bearing
torque is the 33 that Bill stated. Torquing a rod cap to main specs does
bad, bad things.

Chris



c 02-29-2004 12:45 AM

Re: Thanks for the help... another question
 

"Danny Bains" <lookatme@123.com> wrote in message
news:_aKdnTb1hKrT_NzdRVn-uA@comcast.com...
> William Oliveri wrote:
>
> >
> > My FSM says
> > "Connecting Rod Bolt Nuts"
> > Torque = 33 ft lbs for "Service Set-to torque",
> > Torque = 30 - 35 ft lbs for "Service In-Use Recheck Torque"
> >
> > That's for the I-6, 258.
> >
> > If you're talking about the exterier of the block and oil pan then

that's
> > up
> > to you. I cleaned mine off so I can detect oil leaks in the future.
> >
> > As far as the oil pan goes, I don't think there's a "torque pattern". I
> > would just go from center to outer and from side to side.
> >
> > Bill
> >

>
>
> Thanks Bill. I found this article and it says to use 80 ft pounds.


Just to clarify, that is the spec for the main bearings. The rod bearing
torque is the 33 that Bill stated. Torquing a rod cap to main specs does
bad, bad things.

Chris



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-29-2004 01:11 AM

Re: Thanks for the help... another question
 
http://members.tripod.com/torquespec...-86_st6eng.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Danny Bains wrote:
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
>
> Thanks Bill. I found this article and it says to use 80 ft pounds.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-29-2004 01:11 AM

Re: Thanks for the help... another question
 
http://members.tripod.com/torquespec...-86_st6eng.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Danny Bains wrote:
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
>
> Thanks Bill. I found this article and it says to use 80 ft pounds.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-29-2004 01:11 AM

Re: Thanks for the help... another question
 
http://members.tripod.com/torquespec...-86_st6eng.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Danny Bains wrote:
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
>
> Thanks Bill. I found this article and it says to use 80 ft pounds.


Danny Bains 02-29-2004 10:44 AM

Re: Thanks for the help... another question
 
c wrote:

>
> "Danny Bains" <lookatme@123.com> wrote in message
> news:_aKdnTb1hKrT_NzdRVn-uA@comcast.com...
>> William Oliveri wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > My FSM says
>> > "Connecting Rod Bolt Nuts"
>> > Torque = 33 ft lbs for "Service Set-to torque",
>> > Torque = 30 - 35 ft lbs for "Service In-Use Recheck Torque"
>> >
>> > That's for the I-6, 258.
>> >
>> > If you're talking about the exterier of the block and oil pan then

> that's
>> > up
>> > to you. I cleaned mine off so I can detect oil leaks in the future.
>> >
>> > As far as the oil pan goes, I don't think there's a "torque pattern".
>> > I would just go from center to outer and from side to side.
>> >
>> > Bill
>> >

>>
>>
>> Thanks Bill. I found this article and it says to use 80 ft pounds.

>
> Just to clarify, that is the spec for the main bearings. The rod bearing
> torque is the 33 that Bill stated. Torquing a rod cap to main specs does
> bad, bad things.
>
> Chris



Thanks. To make sure I'm clear, the bolts for the seven main caps I
loosened to remove the rear main seal need to be torqued to 80 ft pounds?

--
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Danny Bains 02-29-2004 10:44 AM

Re: Thanks for the help... another question
 
c wrote:

>
> "Danny Bains" <lookatme@123.com> wrote in message
> news:_aKdnTb1hKrT_NzdRVn-uA@comcast.com...
>> William Oliveri wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > My FSM says
>> > "Connecting Rod Bolt Nuts"
>> > Torque = 33 ft lbs for "Service Set-to torque",
>> > Torque = 30 - 35 ft lbs for "Service In-Use Recheck Torque"
>> >
>> > That's for the I-6, 258.
>> >
>> > If you're talking about the exterier of the block and oil pan then

> that's
>> > up
>> > to you. I cleaned mine off so I can detect oil leaks in the future.
>> >
>> > As far as the oil pan goes, I don't think there's a "torque pattern".
>> > I would just go from center to outer and from side to side.
>> >
>> > Bill
>> >

>>
>>
>> Thanks Bill. I found this article and it says to use 80 ft pounds.

>
> Just to clarify, that is the spec for the main bearings. The rod bearing
> torque is the 33 that Bill stated. Torquing a rod cap to main specs does
> bad, bad things.
>
> Chris



Thanks. To make sure I'm clear, the bolts for the seven main caps I
loosened to remove the rear main seal need to be torqued to 80 ft pounds?

--
Say NO! To TCPA! http://www.againsttcpa.com
What's Microsoft up to: http://www.euronet.nl/users/frankvw/IhateMS.html



Danny Bains 02-29-2004 10:44 AM

Re: Thanks for the help... another question
 
c wrote:

>
> "Danny Bains" <lookatme@123.com> wrote in message
> news:_aKdnTb1hKrT_NzdRVn-uA@comcast.com...
>> William Oliveri wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > My FSM says
>> > "Connecting Rod Bolt Nuts"
>> > Torque = 33 ft lbs for "Service Set-to torque",
>> > Torque = 30 - 35 ft lbs for "Service In-Use Recheck Torque"
>> >
>> > That's for the I-6, 258.
>> >
>> > If you're talking about the exterier of the block and oil pan then

> that's
>> > up
>> > to you. I cleaned mine off so I can detect oil leaks in the future.
>> >
>> > As far as the oil pan goes, I don't think there's a "torque pattern".
>> > I would just go from center to outer and from side to side.
>> >
>> > Bill
>> >

>>
>>
>> Thanks Bill. I found this article and it says to use 80 ft pounds.

>
> Just to clarify, that is the spec for the main bearings. The rod bearing
> torque is the 33 that Bill stated. Torquing a rod cap to main specs does
> bad, bad things.
>
> Chris



Thanks. To make sure I'm clear, the bolts for the seven main caps I
loosened to remove the rear main seal need to be torqued to 80 ft pounds?

--
Say NO! To TCPA! http://www.againsttcpa.com
What's Microsoft up to: http://www.euronet.nl/users/frankvw/IhateMS.html



William Oliveri 02-29-2004 12:11 PM

Re: Thanks for the help... another question
 
My FSM Says:

"Main Bearing Capscrews"

Torque = 80 ft lbs for "Service Set-to torque",
Torque = 75 - 80 ft lbs for "Service In-Use Recheck Torque"

Billo

"Danny Bains" <lookatme@123.com> wrote in message
news:4YydnZs087R1mN_dRVn-jg@comcast.com...
> c wrote:
>
> >
> > "Danny Bains" <lookatme@123.com> wrote in message
> > news:_aKdnTb1hKrT_NzdRVn-uA@comcast.com...
> >> William Oliveri wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > My FSM says
> >> > "Connecting Rod Bolt Nuts"
> >> > Torque = 33 ft lbs for "Service Set-to torque",
> >> > Torque = 30 - 35 ft lbs for "Service In-Use Recheck Torque"
> >> >
> >> > That's for the I-6, 258.
> >> >
> >> > If you're talking about the exterier of the block and oil pan then

> > that's
> >> > up
> >> > to you. I cleaned mine off so I can detect oil leaks in the future.
> >> >
> >> > As far as the oil pan goes, I don't think there's a "torque pattern".
> >> > I would just go from center to outer and from side to side.
> >> >
> >> > Bill
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks Bill. I found this article and it says to use 80 ft pounds.

> >
> > Just to clarify, that is the spec for the main bearings. The rod bearing
> > torque is the 33 that Bill stated. Torquing a rod cap to main specs does
> > bad, bad things.
> >
> > Chris

>
>
> Thanks. To make sure I'm clear, the bolts for the seven main caps I
> loosened to remove the rear main seal need to be torqued to 80 ft pounds?
>
> --
> Say NO! To TCPA! http://www.againsttcpa.com
> What's Microsoft up to: http://www.euronet.nl/users/frankvw/IhateMS.html
>
>




William Oliveri 02-29-2004 12:11 PM

Re: Thanks for the help... another question
 
My FSM Says:

"Main Bearing Capscrews"

Torque = 80 ft lbs for "Service Set-to torque",
Torque = 75 - 80 ft lbs for "Service In-Use Recheck Torque"

Billo

"Danny Bains" <lookatme@123.com> wrote in message
news:4YydnZs087R1mN_dRVn-jg@comcast.com...
> c wrote:
>
> >
> > "Danny Bains" <lookatme@123.com> wrote in message
> > news:_aKdnTb1hKrT_NzdRVn-uA@comcast.com...
> >> William Oliveri wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > My FSM says
> >> > "Connecting Rod Bolt Nuts"
> >> > Torque = 33 ft lbs for "Service Set-to torque",
> >> > Torque = 30 - 35 ft lbs for "Service In-Use Recheck Torque"
> >> >
> >> > That's for the I-6, 258.
> >> >
> >> > If you're talking about the exterier of the block and oil pan then

> > that's
> >> > up
> >> > to you. I cleaned mine off so I can detect oil leaks in the future.
> >> >
> >> > As far as the oil pan goes, I don't think there's a "torque pattern".
> >> > I would just go from center to outer and from side to side.
> >> >
> >> > Bill
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks Bill. I found this article and it says to use 80 ft pounds.

> >
> > Just to clarify, that is the spec for the main bearings. The rod bearing
> > torque is the 33 that Bill stated. Torquing a rod cap to main specs does
> > bad, bad things.
> >
> > Chris

>
>
> Thanks. To make sure I'm clear, the bolts for the seven main caps I
> loosened to remove the rear main seal need to be torqued to 80 ft pounds?
>
> --
> Say NO! To TCPA! http://www.againsttcpa.com
> What's Microsoft up to: http://www.euronet.nl/users/frankvw/IhateMS.html
>
>




William Oliveri 02-29-2004 12:11 PM

Re: Thanks for the help... another question
 
My FSM Says:

"Main Bearing Capscrews"

Torque = 80 ft lbs for "Service Set-to torque",
Torque = 75 - 80 ft lbs for "Service In-Use Recheck Torque"

Billo

"Danny Bains" <lookatme@123.com> wrote in message
news:4YydnZs087R1mN_dRVn-jg@comcast.com...
> c wrote:
>
> >
> > "Danny Bains" <lookatme@123.com> wrote in message
> > news:_aKdnTb1hKrT_NzdRVn-uA@comcast.com...
> >> William Oliveri wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > My FSM says
> >> > "Connecting Rod Bolt Nuts"
> >> > Torque = 33 ft lbs for "Service Set-to torque",
> >> > Torque = 30 - 35 ft lbs for "Service In-Use Recheck Torque"
> >> >
> >> > That's for the I-6, 258.
> >> >
> >> > If you're talking about the exterier of the block and oil pan then

> > that's
> >> > up
> >> > to you. I cleaned mine off so I can detect oil leaks in the future.
> >> >
> >> > As far as the oil pan goes, I don't think there's a "torque pattern".
> >> > I would just go from center to outer and from side to side.
> >> >
> >> > Bill
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks Bill. I found this article and it says to use 80 ft pounds.

> >
> > Just to clarify, that is the spec for the main bearings. The rod bearing
> > torque is the 33 that Bill stated. Torquing a rod cap to main specs does
> > bad, bad things.
> >
> > Chris

>
>
> Thanks. To make sure I'm clear, the bolts for the seven main caps I
> loosened to remove the rear main seal need to be torqued to 80 ft pounds?
>
> --
> Say NO! To TCPA! http://www.againsttcpa.com
> What's Microsoft up to: http://www.euronet.nl/users/frankvw/IhateMS.html
>
>





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