Re: tech questions: 93 wrangler, 93 gr cher
 

In article <42120533.28A962E2@sympatico.ca>,
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> What a pile of crap that post is!
>
> 'Solder' from making the tank contaminating the fuel pumps. ROTFLMAO!
>
> I have never heard anything so foolish.

The only thing close would be that Methanol will dissolve the
Tern coating inside a steel tank, contaminating the entire fuel
system.

Re: tech questions: 93 wrangler, 93 gr cher
 

aarcuda69062 wrote:
>
> In article <42120533.28A962E2@sympatico.ca>,
> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > What a pile of crap that post is!
> >
> > 'Solder' from making the tank contaminating the fuel pumps. ROTFLMAO!
> >
> > I have never heard anything so foolish.
>
> The only thing close would be that Methanol will dissolve the
> Tern coating inside a steel tank, contaminating the entire fuel
> system.

Well......

The owners manuals for both of my Jeeps specifically warn 'not' to use
any type of gas contaminated with 'gasohol' or ethanol or methanol. It
states you 'can' use up to 5% or less with anti corrosion stuff but it
might not run well and to 'never' use any that is higher than 5%
contaminated under any circumstances....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: tech questions: 93 wrangler, 93 gr cher
 

aarcuda69062 wrote:
>
> In article <42120533.28A962E2@sympatico.ca>,
> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > What a pile of crap that post is!
> >
> > 'Solder' from making the tank contaminating the fuel pumps. ROTFLMAO!
> >
> > I have never heard anything so foolish.
>
> The only thing close would be that Methanol will dissolve the
> Tern coating inside a steel tank, contaminating the entire fuel
> system.

Well......

The owners manuals for both of my Jeeps specifically warn 'not' to use
any type of gas contaminated with 'gasohol' or ethanol or methanol. It
states you 'can' use up to 5% or less with anti corrosion stuff but it
might not run well and to 'never' use any that is higher than 5%
contaminated under any circumstances....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: tech questions: 93 wrangler, 93 gr cher
 

aarcuda69062 wrote:
>
> In article <42120533.28A962E2@sympatico.ca>,
> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > What a pile of crap that post is!
> >
> > 'Solder' from making the tank contaminating the fuel pumps. ROTFLMAO!
> >
> > I have never heard anything so foolish.
>
> The only thing close would be that Methanol will dissolve the
> Tern coating inside a steel tank, contaminating the entire fuel
> system.

Well......

The owners manuals for both of my Jeeps specifically warn 'not' to use
any type of gas contaminated with 'gasohol' or ethanol or methanol. It
states you 'can' use up to 5% or less with anti corrosion stuff but it
might not run well and to 'never' use any that is higher than 5%
contaminated under any circumstances....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: tech questions: 93 wrangler, 93 gr cher
 

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, Mike Romain wrote:

> The owners manuals for both of my Jeeps specifically warn 'not' to use
> any type of gas contaminated with 'gasohol' or ethanol or methanol. It
> states you 'can' use up to 5% or less with anti corrosion stuff but it
> might not run well and to 'never' use any that is higher than 5%
> contaminated under any circumstances....

Here in Connecticut ethanol has replaced MTBE as an anti-knock agent. I
forget exactly what the pump stickers say but I think it says "up to 15%
ethanol."


--
"I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
whips....r"
R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.

Re: tech questions: 93 wrangler, 93 gr cher
 

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, Mike Romain wrote:

> The owners manuals for both of my Jeeps specifically warn 'not' to use
> any type of gas contaminated with 'gasohol' or ethanol or methanol. It
> states you 'can' use up to 5% or less with anti corrosion stuff but it
> might not run well and to 'never' use any that is higher than 5%
> contaminated under any circumstances....

Here in Connecticut ethanol has replaced MTBE as an anti-knock agent. I
forget exactly what the pump stickers say but I think it says "up to 15%
ethanol."


--
"I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
whips....r"
R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.

Re: tech questions: 93 wrangler, 93 gr cher
 

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, Mike Romain wrote:

> The owners manuals for both of my Jeeps specifically warn 'not' to use
> any type of gas contaminated with 'gasohol' or ethanol or methanol. It
> states you 'can' use up to 5% or less with anti corrosion stuff but it
> might not run well and to 'never' use any that is higher than 5%
> contaminated under any circumstances....

Here in Connecticut ethanol has replaced MTBE as an anti-knock agent. I
forget exactly what the pump stickers say but I think it says "up to 15%
ethanol."


--
"I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
whips....r"
R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.

Re: tech questions: 93 wrangler, 93 gr cher
 

Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > The owners manuals for both of my Jeeps specifically warn 'not' to use
> > any type of gas contaminated with 'gasohol' or ethanol or methanol. It
> > states you 'can' use up to 5% or less with anti corrosion stuff but it
> > might not run well and to 'never' use any that is higher than 5%
> > contaminated under any circumstances....
>
> Here in Connecticut ethanol has replaced MTBE as an anti-knock agent. I
> forget exactly what the pump stickers say but I think it says "up to 15%
> ethanol."
>
> --

Some of our stations are like that and my CJ7 will 'not' run on their
fuel mix. It refuses to idle and pings out over 65 mph with the gas
mileage dropping by 100 miles per tank. 'Petro Canada' gas is the worst
for some reason.

I even tried dropping the timing back 5 deg or so to see if it would run
on the crap and it is a 'bit' better on idle (it will stay above a
stall) but top end power and gas mileage still suck big time.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: tech questions: 93 wrangler, 93 gr cher
 

Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > The owners manuals for both of my Jeeps specifically warn 'not' to use
> > any type of gas contaminated with 'gasohol' or ethanol or methanol. It
> > states you 'can' use up to 5% or less with anti corrosion stuff but it
> > might not run well and to 'never' use any that is higher than 5%
> > contaminated under any circumstances....
>
> Here in Connecticut ethanol has replaced MTBE as an anti-knock agent. I
> forget exactly what the pump stickers say but I think it says "up to 15%
> ethanol."
>
> --

Some of our stations are like that and my CJ7 will 'not' run on their
fuel mix. It refuses to idle and pings out over 65 mph with the gas
mileage dropping by 100 miles per tank. 'Petro Canada' gas is the worst
for some reason.

I even tried dropping the timing back 5 deg or so to see if it would run
on the crap and it is a 'bit' better on idle (it will stay above a
stall) but top end power and gas mileage still suck big time.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: tech questions: 93 wrangler, 93 gr cher
 

Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > The owners manuals for both of my Jeeps specifically warn 'not' to use
> > any type of gas contaminated with 'gasohol' or ethanol or methanol. It
> > states you 'can' use up to 5% or less with anti corrosion stuff but it
> > might not run well and to 'never' use any that is higher than 5%
> > contaminated under any circumstances....
>
> Here in Connecticut ethanol has replaced MTBE as an anti-knock agent. I
> forget exactly what the pump stickers say but I think it says "up to 15%
> ethanol."
>
> --

Some of our stations are like that and my CJ7 will 'not' run on their
fuel mix. It refuses to idle and pings out over 65 mph with the gas
mileage dropping by 100 miles per tank. 'Petro Canada' gas is the worst
for some reason.

I even tried dropping the timing back 5 deg or so to see if it would run
on the crap and it is a 'bit' better on idle (it will stay above a
stall) but top end power and gas mileage still suck big time.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's