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Eric 05-20-2004 10:57 AM

Tapping Noise (Exhaust?)
 
I have developed a strange noise... almost a rattle.. from what I believe is
the under/passenger side of my 99 TJ. It doesn't happen all the time, seems
to happen mostly when it is warm and has been under a load (i.e. stop-n-go
traffic, highway driving, etc) for a while. The rattle is the loudest when
under load, i.e. when I take off from a stop sign or accelerate up a hill.
It has gotten louder lately. One day it was so bad, the "rattle" (sounds
like metal tapping metal, actually) was happening at idle. I got out, and
since I was in uniform and couldn't crawl under it, I just stuck my foot on
the tailpipe to see if that would stop it, and it seemed to.

I'm finally home, but can't get it to duplicate at a time when I can put it
up on stands and take a look at it. Every time I do, it won't duplicate. I
DID find a lot of green/white powdery stuff caked on the pipe between the
cat and the muffler. I've never seen that before. The pipe has a thick
coating of this junk from end to end of the pipe connecting the cat to the
muffler.

Any thoughts on this? It isn't one of those "it's a Jeep, it makes noise,
deal with it" situations. My wife thought the muffler was dragging
yesterday it got so bad.

By the way, I tapped, pulled, pushed, and prodded the exhaust from the
downpipe back. Nothing loose that I could see.

Eric
99 TJ SE



ISellJeeps 05-20-2004 11:29 AM

Re: Tapping Noise (Exhaust?)
 
check your convertor


"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:XH3rc.4811$KO2.3327@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> I have developed a strange noise... almost a rattle.. from what I believe

is
> the under/passenger side of my 99 TJ. It doesn't happen all the time,

seems
> to happen mostly when it is warm and has been under a load (i.e. stop-n-go
> traffic, highway driving, etc) for a while. The rattle is the loudest

when
> under load, i.e. when I take off from a stop sign or accelerate up a hill.
> It has gotten louder lately. One day it was so bad, the "rattle" (sounds
> like metal tapping metal, actually) was happening at idle. I got out, and
> since I was in uniform and couldn't crawl under it, I just stuck my foot

on
> the tailpipe to see if that would stop it, and it seemed to.
>
> I'm finally home, but can't get it to duplicate at a time when I can put

it
> up on stands and take a look at it. Every time I do, it won't duplicate.

I
> DID find a lot of green/white powdery stuff caked on the pipe between the
> cat and the muffler. I've never seen that before. The pipe has a thick
> coating of this junk from end to end of the pipe connecting the cat to the
> muffler.
>
> Any thoughts on this? It isn't one of those "it's a Jeep, it makes noise,
> deal with it" situations. My wife thought the muffler was dragging
> yesterday it got so bad.
>
> By the way, I tapped, pulled, pushed, and prodded the exhaust from the
> downpipe back. Nothing loose that I could see.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
>
>




ISellJeeps 05-20-2004 11:29 AM

Re: Tapping Noise (Exhaust?)
 
check your convertor


"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:XH3rc.4811$KO2.3327@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> I have developed a strange noise... almost a rattle.. from what I believe

is
> the under/passenger side of my 99 TJ. It doesn't happen all the time,

seems
> to happen mostly when it is warm and has been under a load (i.e. stop-n-go
> traffic, highway driving, etc) for a while. The rattle is the loudest

when
> under load, i.e. when I take off from a stop sign or accelerate up a hill.
> It has gotten louder lately. One day it was so bad, the "rattle" (sounds
> like metal tapping metal, actually) was happening at idle. I got out, and
> since I was in uniform and couldn't crawl under it, I just stuck my foot

on
> the tailpipe to see if that would stop it, and it seemed to.
>
> I'm finally home, but can't get it to duplicate at a time when I can put

it
> up on stands and take a look at it. Every time I do, it won't duplicate.

I
> DID find a lot of green/white powdery stuff caked on the pipe between the
> cat and the muffler. I've never seen that before. The pipe has a thick
> coating of this junk from end to end of the pipe connecting the cat to the
> muffler.
>
> Any thoughts on this? It isn't one of those "it's a Jeep, it makes noise,
> deal with it" situations. My wife thought the muffler was dragging
> yesterday it got so bad.
>
> By the way, I tapped, pulled, pushed, and prodded the exhaust from the
> downpipe back. Nothing loose that I could see.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
>
>




ISellJeeps 05-20-2004 11:29 AM

Re: Tapping Noise (Exhaust?)
 
check your convertor


"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:XH3rc.4811$KO2.3327@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> I have developed a strange noise... almost a rattle.. from what I believe

is
> the under/passenger side of my 99 TJ. It doesn't happen all the time,

seems
> to happen mostly when it is warm and has been under a load (i.e. stop-n-go
> traffic, highway driving, etc) for a while. The rattle is the loudest

when
> under load, i.e. when I take off from a stop sign or accelerate up a hill.
> It has gotten louder lately. One day it was so bad, the "rattle" (sounds
> like metal tapping metal, actually) was happening at idle. I got out, and
> since I was in uniform and couldn't crawl under it, I just stuck my foot

on
> the tailpipe to see if that would stop it, and it seemed to.
>
> I'm finally home, but can't get it to duplicate at a time when I can put

it
> up on stands and take a look at it. Every time I do, it won't duplicate.

I
> DID find a lot of green/white powdery stuff caked on the pipe between the
> cat and the muffler. I've never seen that before. The pipe has a thick
> coating of this junk from end to end of the pipe connecting the cat to the
> muffler.
>
> Any thoughts on this? It isn't one of those "it's a Jeep, it makes noise,
> deal with it" situations. My wife thought the muffler was dragging
> yesterday it got so bad.
>
> By the way, I tapped, pulled, pushed, and prodded the exhaust from the
> downpipe back. Nothing loose that I could see.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
>
>




ISellJeeps 05-20-2004 11:29 AM

Re: Tapping Noise (Exhaust?)
 
check your convertor


"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:XH3rc.4811$KO2.3327@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> I have developed a strange noise... almost a rattle.. from what I believe

is
> the under/passenger side of my 99 TJ. It doesn't happen all the time,

seems
> to happen mostly when it is warm and has been under a load (i.e. stop-n-go
> traffic, highway driving, etc) for a while. The rattle is the loudest

when
> under load, i.e. when I take off from a stop sign or accelerate up a hill.
> It has gotten louder lately. One day it was so bad, the "rattle" (sounds
> like metal tapping metal, actually) was happening at idle. I got out, and
> since I was in uniform and couldn't crawl under it, I just stuck my foot

on
> the tailpipe to see if that would stop it, and it seemed to.
>
> I'm finally home, but can't get it to duplicate at a time when I can put

it
> up on stands and take a look at it. Every time I do, it won't duplicate.

I
> DID find a lot of green/white powdery stuff caked on the pipe between the
> cat and the muffler. I've never seen that before. The pipe has a thick
> coating of this junk from end to end of the pipe connecting the cat to the
> muffler.
>
> Any thoughts on this? It isn't one of those "it's a Jeep, it makes noise,
> deal with it" situations. My wife thought the muffler was dragging
> yesterday it got so bad.
>
> By the way, I tapped, pulled, pushed, and prodded the exhaust from the
> downpipe back. Nothing loose that I could see.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
>
>




Handywired 05-20-2004 01:19 PM

Re: Tapping Noise (Exhaust?)
 
>I have developed a strange noise... almost a rattle.. from what I believe
>is
>the under/passenger side of my 99 TJ


Sure sounds like your catalytic converter to me! The guts of it come loose and
rattle against the metal. Mine does that.

-jeff

Handywired 05-20-2004 01:19 PM

Re: Tapping Noise (Exhaust?)
 
>I have developed a strange noise... almost a rattle.. from what I believe
>is
>the under/passenger side of my 99 TJ


Sure sounds like your catalytic converter to me! The guts of it come loose and
rattle against the metal. Mine does that.

-jeff

Handywired 05-20-2004 01:19 PM

Re: Tapping Noise (Exhaust?)
 
>I have developed a strange noise... almost a rattle.. from what I believe
>is
>the under/passenger side of my 99 TJ


Sure sounds like your catalytic converter to me! The guts of it come loose and
rattle against the metal. Mine does that.

-jeff

Handywired 05-20-2004 01:19 PM

Re: Tapping Noise (Exhaust?)
 
>I have developed a strange noise... almost a rattle.. from what I believe
>is
>the under/passenger side of my 99 TJ


Sure sounds like your catalytic converter to me! The guts of it come loose and
rattle against the metal. Mine does that.

-jeff

Jeepster 05-20-2004 07:20 PM

Re: Tapping Noise (Exhaust?)
 
On Thu, 20 May 2004 14:57:59 GMT, "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com>
wrote:

>I have developed a strange noise... almost a rattle.. from what I believe is
>the under/passenger side of my 99 TJ. It doesn't happen all the time, seems
>to happen mostly when it is warm and has been under a load (i.e. stop-n-go
>traffic, highway driving, etc) for a while. The rattle is the loudest when
>under load, i.e. when I take off from a stop sign or accelerate up a hill.
>It has gotten louder lately. One day it was so bad, the "rattle" (sounds
>like metal tapping metal, actually) was happening at idle. I got out, and
>since I was in uniform and couldn't crawl under it, I just stuck my foot on
>the tailpipe to see if that would stop it, and it seemed to.
>
>I'm finally home, but can't get it to duplicate at a time when I can put it
>up on stands and take a look at it. Every time I do, it won't duplicate. I
>DID find a lot of green/white powdery stuff caked on the pipe between the
>cat and the muffler. I've never seen that before. The pipe has a thick
>coating of this junk from end to end of the pipe connecting the cat to the
>muffler.
>
>Any thoughts on this? It isn't one of those "it's a Jeep, it makes noise,
>deal with it" situations. My wife thought the muffler was dragging
>yesterday it got so bad.
>
>By the way, I tapped, pulled, pushed, and prodded the exhaust from the
>downpipe back. Nothing loose that I could see.
>
>Eric
>99 TJ SE
>

Ditto on the cat comments I have had a few go like that.... change it
before it plugs right up or causes excessive back pressure on your
engine. The first one that went on me rattled for a few months then it
decided to break up and jam into the cat outlet nozzle and drop my
forward momentum to a crawl, I actually went out and drilled a 5/8"
hole in the front of the converter to allow me to drive to the muffler
shop.

Jeepster 05-20-2004 07:20 PM

Re: Tapping Noise (Exhaust?)
 
On Thu, 20 May 2004 14:57:59 GMT, "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com>
wrote:

>I have developed a strange noise... almost a rattle.. from what I believe is
>the under/passenger side of my 99 TJ. It doesn't happen all the time, seems
>to happen mostly when it is warm and has been under a load (i.e. stop-n-go
>traffic, highway driving, etc) for a while. The rattle is the loudest when
>under load, i.e. when I take off from a stop sign or accelerate up a hill.
>It has gotten louder lately. One day it was so bad, the "rattle" (sounds
>like metal tapping metal, actually) was happening at idle. I got out, and
>since I was in uniform and couldn't crawl under it, I just stuck my foot on
>the tailpipe to see if that would stop it, and it seemed to.
>
>I'm finally home, but can't get it to duplicate at a time when I can put it
>up on stands and take a look at it. Every time I do, it won't duplicate. I
>DID find a lot of green/white powdery stuff caked on the pipe between the
>cat and the muffler. I've never seen that before. The pipe has a thick
>coating of this junk from end to end of the pipe connecting the cat to the
>muffler.
>
>Any thoughts on this? It isn't one of those "it's a Jeep, it makes noise,
>deal with it" situations. My wife thought the muffler was dragging
>yesterday it got so bad.
>
>By the way, I tapped, pulled, pushed, and prodded the exhaust from the
>downpipe back. Nothing loose that I could see.
>
>Eric
>99 TJ SE
>

Ditto on the cat comments I have had a few go like that.... change it
before it plugs right up or causes excessive back pressure on your
engine. The first one that went on me rattled for a few months then it
decided to break up and jam into the cat outlet nozzle and drop my
forward momentum to a crawl, I actually went out and drilled a 5/8"
hole in the front of the converter to allow me to drive to the muffler
shop.

Jeepster 05-20-2004 07:20 PM

Re: Tapping Noise (Exhaust?)
 
On Thu, 20 May 2004 14:57:59 GMT, "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com>
wrote:

>I have developed a strange noise... almost a rattle.. from what I believe is
>the under/passenger side of my 99 TJ. It doesn't happen all the time, seems
>to happen mostly when it is warm and has been under a load (i.e. stop-n-go
>traffic, highway driving, etc) for a while. The rattle is the loudest when
>under load, i.e. when I take off from a stop sign or accelerate up a hill.
>It has gotten louder lately. One day it was so bad, the "rattle" (sounds
>like metal tapping metal, actually) was happening at idle. I got out, and
>since I was in uniform and couldn't crawl under it, I just stuck my foot on
>the tailpipe to see if that would stop it, and it seemed to.
>
>I'm finally home, but can't get it to duplicate at a time when I can put it
>up on stands and take a look at it. Every time I do, it won't duplicate. I
>DID find a lot of green/white powdery stuff caked on the pipe between the
>cat and the muffler. I've never seen that before. The pipe has a thick
>coating of this junk from end to end of the pipe connecting the cat to the
>muffler.
>
>Any thoughts on this? It isn't one of those "it's a Jeep, it makes noise,
>deal with it" situations. My wife thought the muffler was dragging
>yesterday it got so bad.
>
>By the way, I tapped, pulled, pushed, and prodded the exhaust from the
>downpipe back. Nothing loose that I could see.
>
>Eric
>99 TJ SE
>

Ditto on the cat comments I have had a few go like that.... change it
before it plugs right up or causes excessive back pressure on your
engine. The first one that went on me rattled for a few months then it
decided to break up and jam into the cat outlet nozzle and drop my
forward momentum to a crawl, I actually went out and drilled a 5/8"
hole in the front of the converter to allow me to drive to the muffler
shop.

Jeepster 05-20-2004 07:20 PM

Re: Tapping Noise (Exhaust?)
 
On Thu, 20 May 2004 14:57:59 GMT, "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com>
wrote:

>I have developed a strange noise... almost a rattle.. from what I believe is
>the under/passenger side of my 99 TJ. It doesn't happen all the time, seems
>to happen mostly when it is warm and has been under a load (i.e. stop-n-go
>traffic, highway driving, etc) for a while. The rattle is the loudest when
>under load, i.e. when I take off from a stop sign or accelerate up a hill.
>It has gotten louder lately. One day it was so bad, the "rattle" (sounds
>like metal tapping metal, actually) was happening at idle. I got out, and
>since I was in uniform and couldn't crawl under it, I just stuck my foot on
>the tailpipe to see if that would stop it, and it seemed to.
>
>I'm finally home, but can't get it to duplicate at a time when I can put it
>up on stands and take a look at it. Every time I do, it won't duplicate. I
>DID find a lot of green/white powdery stuff caked on the pipe between the
>cat and the muffler. I've never seen that before. The pipe has a thick
>coating of this junk from end to end of the pipe connecting the cat to the
>muffler.
>
>Any thoughts on this? It isn't one of those "it's a Jeep, it makes noise,
>deal with it" situations. My wife thought the muffler was dragging
>yesterday it got so bad.
>
>By the way, I tapped, pulled, pushed, and prodded the exhaust from the
>downpipe back. Nothing loose that I could see.
>
>Eric
>99 TJ SE
>

Ditto on the cat comments I have had a few go like that.... change it
before it plugs right up or causes excessive back pressure on your
engine. The first one that went on me rattled for a few months then it
decided to break up and jam into the cat outlet nozzle and drop my
forward momentum to a crawl, I actually went out and drilled a 5/8"
hole in the front of the converter to allow me to drive to the muffler
shop.

John Welch 05-20-2004 07:56 PM

Re: Tapping Noise (Exhaust?)
 
handywired@aol.com (Handywired) wrote in message news:<20040520131931.13668.00000940@mb-m26.aol.com>...
> >I have developed a strange noise... almost a rattle.. from what I believe
> >is
> >the under/passenger side of my 99 TJ

>
> Sure sounds like your catalytic converter to me! The guts of it come loose and
> rattle against the metal. Mine does that.

Mine started doing that the last time I let the teenage daughter loose
in it. Better check.

John Welch 05-20-2004 07:56 PM

Re: Tapping Noise (Exhaust?)
 
handywired@aol.com (Handywired) wrote in message news:<20040520131931.13668.00000940@mb-m26.aol.com>...
> >I have developed a strange noise... almost a rattle.. from what I believe
> >is
> >the under/passenger side of my 99 TJ

>
> Sure sounds like your catalytic converter to me! The guts of it come loose and
> rattle against the metal. Mine does that.

Mine started doing that the last time I let the teenage daughter loose
in it. Better check.

John Welch 05-20-2004 07:56 PM

Re: Tapping Noise (Exhaust?)
 
handywired@aol.com (Handywired) wrote in message news:<20040520131931.13668.00000940@mb-m26.aol.com>...
> >I have developed a strange noise... almost a rattle.. from what I believe
> >is
> >the under/passenger side of my 99 TJ

>
> Sure sounds like your catalytic converter to me! The guts of it come loose and
> rattle against the metal. Mine does that.

Mine started doing that the last time I let the teenage daughter loose
in it. Better check.

John Welch 05-20-2004 07:56 PM

Re: Tapping Noise (Exhaust?)
 
handywired@aol.com (Handywired) wrote in message news:<20040520131931.13668.00000940@mb-m26.aol.com>...
> >I have developed a strange noise... almost a rattle.. from what I believe
> >is
> >the under/passenger side of my 99 TJ

>
> Sure sounds like your catalytic converter to me! The guts of it come loose and
> rattle against the metal. Mine does that.

Mine started doing that the last time I let the teenage daughter loose
in it. Better check.

David C. Moller 05-20-2004 08:56 PM

Re: Tapping Noise (Exhaust?)
 
Everyone has already said the cat converter, but I figured I'd through
out a possible cracked exhaust manifold. Although it wouldn't make
sense to be hearing it from the passenger side. When mine started to
go, I'd hear it most when under load as you mentioned. Thought it was
engine ping at first. Just wanted to mention it as a possibility.

Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm

On Thu, 20 May 2004 14:57:59 GMT, "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com>
wrote:

>I have developed a strange noise... almost a rattle.. from what I believe is
>the under/passenger side of my 99 TJ. It doesn't happen all the time, seems
>to happen mostly when it is warm and has been under a load (i.e. stop-n-go
>traffic, highway driving, etc) for a while. The rattle is the loudest when
>under load, i.e. when I take off from a stop sign or accelerate up a hill.
>It has gotten louder lately. One day it was so bad, the "rattle" (sounds
>like metal tapping metal, actually) was happening at idle. I got out, and
>since I was in uniform and couldn't crawl under it, I just stuck my foot on
>the tailpipe to see if that would stop it, and it seemed to.
>
>I'm finally home, but can't get it to duplicate at a time when I can put it
>up on stands and take a look at it. Every time I do, it won't duplicate. I
>DID find a lot of green/white powdery stuff caked on the pipe between the
>cat and the muffler. I've never seen that before. The pipe has a thick
>coating of this junk from end to end of the pipe connecting the cat to the
>muffler.
>
>Any thoughts on this? It isn't one of those "it's a Jeep, it makes noise,
>deal with it" situations. My wife thought the muffler was dragging
>yesterday it got so bad.
>
>By the way, I tapped, pulled, pushed, and prodded the exhaust from the
>downpipe back. Nothing loose that I could see.
>
>Eric
>99 TJ SE
>



David C. Moller 05-20-2004 08:56 PM

Re: Tapping Noise (Exhaust?)
 
Everyone has already said the cat converter, but I figured I'd through
out a possible cracked exhaust manifold. Although it wouldn't make
sense to be hearing it from the passenger side. When mine started to
go, I'd hear it most when under load as you mentioned. Thought it was
engine ping at first. Just wanted to mention it as a possibility.

Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm

On Thu, 20 May 2004 14:57:59 GMT, "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com>
wrote:

>I have developed a strange noise... almost a rattle.. from what I believe is
>the under/passenger side of my 99 TJ. It doesn't happen all the time, seems
>to happen mostly when it is warm and has been under a load (i.e. stop-n-go
>traffic, highway driving, etc) for a while. The rattle is the loudest when
>under load, i.e. when I take off from a stop sign or accelerate up a hill.
>It has gotten louder lately. One day it was so bad, the "rattle" (sounds
>like metal tapping metal, actually) was happening at idle. I got out, and
>since I was in uniform and couldn't crawl under it, I just stuck my foot on
>the tailpipe to see if that would stop it, and it seemed to.
>
>I'm finally home, but can't get it to duplicate at a time when I can put it
>up on stands and take a look at it. Every time I do, it won't duplicate. I
>DID find a lot of green/white powdery stuff caked on the pipe between the
>cat and the muffler. I've never seen that before. The pipe has a thick
>coating of this junk from end to end of the pipe connecting the cat to the
>muffler.
>
>Any thoughts on this? It isn't one of those "it's a Jeep, it makes noise,
>deal with it" situations. My wife thought the muffler was dragging
>yesterday it got so bad.
>
>By the way, I tapped, pulled, pushed, and prodded the exhaust from the
>downpipe back. Nothing loose that I could see.
>
>Eric
>99 TJ SE
>



David C. Moller 05-20-2004 08:56 PM

Re: Tapping Noise (Exhaust?)
 
Everyone has already said the cat converter, but I figured I'd through
out a possible cracked exhaust manifold. Although it wouldn't make
sense to be hearing it from the passenger side. When mine started to
go, I'd hear it most when under load as you mentioned. Thought it was
engine ping at first. Just wanted to mention it as a possibility.

Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm

On Thu, 20 May 2004 14:57:59 GMT, "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com>
wrote:

>I have developed a strange noise... almost a rattle.. from what I believe is
>the under/passenger side of my 99 TJ. It doesn't happen all the time, seems
>to happen mostly when it is warm and has been under a load (i.e. stop-n-go
>traffic, highway driving, etc) for a while. The rattle is the loudest when
>under load, i.e. when I take off from a stop sign or accelerate up a hill.
>It has gotten louder lately. One day it was so bad, the "rattle" (sounds
>like metal tapping metal, actually) was happening at idle. I got out, and
>since I was in uniform and couldn't crawl under it, I just stuck my foot on
>the tailpipe to see if that would stop it, and it seemed to.
>
>I'm finally home, but can't get it to duplicate at a time when I can put it
>up on stands and take a look at it. Every time I do, it won't duplicate. I
>DID find a lot of green/white powdery stuff caked on the pipe between the
>cat and the muffler. I've never seen that before. The pipe has a thick
>coating of this junk from end to end of the pipe connecting the cat to the
>muffler.
>
>Any thoughts on this? It isn't one of those "it's a Jeep, it makes noise,
>deal with it" situations. My wife thought the muffler was dragging
>yesterday it got so bad.
>
>By the way, I tapped, pulled, pushed, and prodded the exhaust from the
>downpipe back. Nothing loose that I could see.
>
>Eric
>99 TJ SE
>



David C. Moller 05-20-2004 08:56 PM

Re: Tapping Noise (Exhaust?)
 
Everyone has already said the cat converter, but I figured I'd through
out a possible cracked exhaust manifold. Although it wouldn't make
sense to be hearing it from the passenger side. When mine started to
go, I'd hear it most when under load as you mentioned. Thought it was
engine ping at first. Just wanted to mention it as a possibility.

Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm

On Thu, 20 May 2004 14:57:59 GMT, "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com>
wrote:

>I have developed a strange noise... almost a rattle.. from what I believe is
>the under/passenger side of my 99 TJ. It doesn't happen all the time, seems
>to happen mostly when it is warm and has been under a load (i.e. stop-n-go
>traffic, highway driving, etc) for a while. The rattle is the loudest when
>under load, i.e. when I take off from a stop sign or accelerate up a hill.
>It has gotten louder lately. One day it was so bad, the "rattle" (sounds
>like metal tapping metal, actually) was happening at idle. I got out, and
>since I was in uniform and couldn't crawl under it, I just stuck my foot on
>the tailpipe to see if that would stop it, and it seemed to.
>
>I'm finally home, but can't get it to duplicate at a time when I can put it
>up on stands and take a look at it. Every time I do, it won't duplicate. I
>DID find a lot of green/white powdery stuff caked on the pipe between the
>cat and the muffler. I've never seen that before. The pipe has a thick
>coating of this junk from end to end of the pipe connecting the cat to the
>muffler.
>
>Any thoughts on this? It isn't one of those "it's a Jeep, it makes noise,
>deal with it" situations. My wife thought the muffler was dragging
>yesterday it got so bad.
>
>By the way, I tapped, pulled, pushed, and prodded the exhaust from the
>downpipe back. Nothing loose that I could see.
>
>Eric
>99 TJ SE
>



DougW 05-20-2004 10:06 PM

Re: Tapping Noise (Exhaust?)
 
David C. Moller did pass the time by typing:
> Everyone has already said the cat converter, but I figured I'd through
> out a possible cracked exhaust manifold. Although it wouldn't make
> sense to be hearing it from the passenger side. When mine started to
> go, I'd hear it most when under load as you mentioned. Thought it was
> engine ping at first. Just wanted to mention it as a possibility.


Not a bad thing to check. Turned out what I lived with for about
a year thinking it was lifter tick was actually a teeny exhaust
leak on #6 and the start of a cracked header.


--
DougW



DougW 05-20-2004 10:06 PM

Re: Tapping Noise (Exhaust?)
 
David C. Moller did pass the time by typing:
> Everyone has already said the cat converter, but I figured I'd through
> out a possible cracked exhaust manifold. Although it wouldn't make
> sense to be hearing it from the passenger side. When mine started to
> go, I'd hear it most when under load as you mentioned. Thought it was
> engine ping at first. Just wanted to mention it as a possibility.


Not a bad thing to check. Turned out what I lived with for about
a year thinking it was lifter tick was actually a teeny exhaust
leak on #6 and the start of a cracked header.


--
DougW



DougW 05-20-2004 10:06 PM

Re: Tapping Noise (Exhaust?)
 
David C. Moller did pass the time by typing:
> Everyone has already said the cat converter, but I figured I'd through
> out a possible cracked exhaust manifold. Although it wouldn't make
> sense to be hearing it from the passenger side. When mine started to
> go, I'd hear it most when under load as you mentioned. Thought it was
> engine ping at first. Just wanted to mention it as a possibility.


Not a bad thing to check. Turned out what I lived with for about
a year thinking it was lifter tick was actually a teeny exhaust
leak on #6 and the start of a cracked header.


--
DougW



DougW 05-20-2004 10:06 PM

Re: Tapping Noise (Exhaust?)
 
David C. Moller did pass the time by typing:
> Everyone has already said the cat converter, but I figured I'd through
> out a possible cracked exhaust manifold. Although it wouldn't make
> sense to be hearing it from the passenger side. When mine started to
> go, I'd hear it most when under load as you mentioned. Thought it was
> engine ping at first. Just wanted to mention it as a possibility.


Not a bad thing to check. Turned out what I lived with for about
a year thinking it was lifter tick was actually a teeny exhaust
leak on #6 and the start of a cracked header.


--
DougW



Eric 05-20-2004 11:20 PM

Re: Tapping Noise (Exhaust?)
 
I'm pretty sure it's the cat too. Called a Jeep dealer today and it should
still be under warranty. I have an appointment to get it replaced tomorrow.
Good thing too, I barely made it home today. NO POWER AT ALL. Not to
mention I've gotten 92 miles on this tank of gas and I'm approaching the red
line...

The power issue didn't start until yesterday/earlier today. Either that or
the power issue wasn't a noticeable issue until then. Should I have the
stealership check anything else out for damage?? I'm driving about 3 - 5
miles to the shop tomorrow, hoping that won't be a big deal...

Eric
99 TJ SE


"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
news:o3fqa0pb74o8o2rngicsgkgd3g4tqa7718@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 20 May 2004 14:57:59 GMT, "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I have developed a strange noise... almost a rattle.. from what I believe

is
> >the under/passenger side of my 99 TJ. It doesn't happen all the time,

seems
> >to happen mostly when it is warm and has been under a load (i.e.

stop-n-go
> >traffic, highway driving, etc) for a while. The rattle is the loudest

when
> >under load, i.e. when I take off from a stop sign or accelerate up a

hill.
> >It has gotten louder lately. One day it was so bad, the "rattle" (sounds
> >like metal tapping metal, actually) was happening at idle. I got out,

and
> >since I was in uniform and couldn't crawl under it, I just stuck my foot

on
> >the tailpipe to see if that would stop it, and it seemed to.
> >
> >I'm finally home, but can't get it to duplicate at a time when I can put

it
> >up on stands and take a look at it. Every time I do, it won't duplicate.

I
> >DID find a lot of green/white powdery stuff caked on the pipe between the
> >cat and the muffler. I've never seen that before. The pipe has a thick
> >coating of this junk from end to end of the pipe connecting the cat to

the
> >muffler.
> >
> >Any thoughts on this? It isn't one of those "it's a Jeep, it makes noise,
> >deal with it" situations. My wife thought the muffler was dragging
> >yesterday it got so bad.
> >
> >By the way, I tapped, pulled, pushed, and prodded the exhaust from the
> >downpipe back. Nothing loose that I could see.
> >
> >Eric
> >99 TJ SE
> >

> Ditto on the cat comments I have had a few go like that.... change it
> before it plugs right up or causes excessive back pressure on your
> engine. The first one that went on me rattled for a few months then it
> decided to break up and jam into the cat outlet nozzle and drop my
> forward momentum to a crawl, I actually went out and drilled a 5/8"
> hole in the front of the converter to allow me to drive to the muffler
> shop.




Eric 05-20-2004 11:20 PM

Re: Tapping Noise (Exhaust?)
 
I'm pretty sure it's the cat too. Called a Jeep dealer today and it should
still be under warranty. I have an appointment to get it replaced tomorrow.
Good thing too, I barely made it home today. NO POWER AT ALL. Not to
mention I've gotten 92 miles on this tank of gas and I'm approaching the red
line...

The power issue didn't start until yesterday/earlier today. Either that or
the power issue wasn't a noticeable issue until then. Should I have the
stealership check anything else out for damage?? I'm driving about 3 - 5
miles to the shop tomorrow, hoping that won't be a big deal...

Eric
99 TJ SE


"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
news:o3fqa0pb74o8o2rngicsgkgd3g4tqa7718@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 20 May 2004 14:57:59 GMT, "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I have developed a strange noise... almost a rattle.. from what I believe

is
> >the under/passenger side of my 99 TJ. It doesn't happen all the time,

seems
> >to happen mostly when it is warm and has been under a load (i.e.

stop-n-go
> >traffic, highway driving, etc) for a while. The rattle is the loudest

when
> >under load, i.e. when I take off from a stop sign or accelerate up a

hill.
> >It has gotten louder lately. One day it was so bad, the "rattle" (sounds
> >like metal tapping metal, actually) was happening at idle. I got out,

and
> >since I was in uniform and couldn't crawl under it, I just stuck my foot

on
> >the tailpipe to see if that would stop it, and it seemed to.
> >
> >I'm finally home, but can't get it to duplicate at a time when I can put

it
> >up on stands and take a look at it. Every time I do, it won't duplicate.

I
> >DID find a lot of green/white powdery stuff caked on the pipe between the
> >cat and the muffler. I've never seen that before. The pipe has a thick
> >coating of this junk from end to end of the pipe connecting the cat to

the
> >muffler.
> >
> >Any thoughts on this? It isn't one of those "it's a Jeep, it makes noise,
> >deal with it" situations. My wife thought the muffler was dragging
> >yesterday it got so bad.
> >
> >By the way, I tapped, pulled, pushed, and prodded the exhaust from the
> >downpipe back. Nothing loose that I could see.
> >
> >Eric
> >99 TJ SE
> >

> Ditto on the cat comments I have had a few go like that.... change it
> before it plugs right up or causes excessive back pressure on your
> engine. The first one that went on me rattled for a few months then it
> decided to break up and jam into the cat outlet nozzle and drop my
> forward momentum to a crawl, I actually went out and drilled a 5/8"
> hole in the front of the converter to allow me to drive to the muffler
> shop.




Eric 05-20-2004 11:20 PM

Re: Tapping Noise (Exhaust?)
 
I'm pretty sure it's the cat too. Called a Jeep dealer today and it should
still be under warranty. I have an appointment to get it replaced tomorrow.
Good thing too, I barely made it home today. NO POWER AT ALL. Not to
mention I've gotten 92 miles on this tank of gas and I'm approaching the red
line...

The power issue didn't start until yesterday/earlier today. Either that or
the power issue wasn't a noticeable issue until then. Should I have the
stealership check anything else out for damage?? I'm driving about 3 - 5
miles to the shop tomorrow, hoping that won't be a big deal...

Eric
99 TJ SE


"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
news:o3fqa0pb74o8o2rngicsgkgd3g4tqa7718@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 20 May 2004 14:57:59 GMT, "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I have developed a strange noise... almost a rattle.. from what I believe

is
> >the under/passenger side of my 99 TJ. It doesn't happen all the time,

seems
> >to happen mostly when it is warm and has been under a load (i.e.

stop-n-go
> >traffic, highway driving, etc) for a while. The rattle is the loudest

when
> >under load, i.e. when I take off from a stop sign or accelerate up a

hill.
> >It has gotten louder lately. One day it was so bad, the "rattle" (sounds
> >like metal tapping metal, actually) was happening at idle. I got out,

and
> >since I was in uniform and couldn't crawl under it, I just stuck my foot

on
> >the tailpipe to see if that would stop it, and it seemed to.
> >
> >I'm finally home, but can't get it to duplicate at a time when I can put

it
> >up on stands and take a look at it. Every time I do, it won't duplicate.

I
> >DID find a lot of green/white powdery stuff caked on the pipe between the
> >cat and the muffler. I've never seen that before. The pipe has a thick
> >coating of this junk from end to end of the pipe connecting the cat to

the
> >muffler.
> >
> >Any thoughts on this? It isn't one of those "it's a Jeep, it makes noise,
> >deal with it" situations. My wife thought the muffler was dragging
> >yesterday it got so bad.
> >
> >By the way, I tapped, pulled, pushed, and prodded the exhaust from the
> >downpipe back. Nothing loose that I could see.
> >
> >Eric
> >99 TJ SE
> >

> Ditto on the cat comments I have had a few go like that.... change it
> before it plugs right up or causes excessive back pressure on your
> engine. The first one that went on me rattled for a few months then it
> decided to break up and jam into the cat outlet nozzle and drop my
> forward momentum to a crawl, I actually went out and drilled a 5/8"
> hole in the front of the converter to allow me to drive to the muffler
> shop.




Eric 05-20-2004 11:20 PM

Re: Tapping Noise (Exhaust?)
 
I'm pretty sure it's the cat too. Called a Jeep dealer today and it should
still be under warranty. I have an appointment to get it replaced tomorrow.
Good thing too, I barely made it home today. NO POWER AT ALL. Not to
mention I've gotten 92 miles on this tank of gas and I'm approaching the red
line...

The power issue didn't start until yesterday/earlier today. Either that or
the power issue wasn't a noticeable issue until then. Should I have the
stealership check anything else out for damage?? I'm driving about 3 - 5
miles to the shop tomorrow, hoping that won't be a big deal...

Eric
99 TJ SE


"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
news:o3fqa0pb74o8o2rngicsgkgd3g4tqa7718@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 20 May 2004 14:57:59 GMT, "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I have developed a strange noise... almost a rattle.. from what I believe

is
> >the under/passenger side of my 99 TJ. It doesn't happen all the time,

seems
> >to happen mostly when it is warm and has been under a load (i.e.

stop-n-go
> >traffic, highway driving, etc) for a while. The rattle is the loudest

when
> >under load, i.e. when I take off from a stop sign or accelerate up a

hill.
> >It has gotten louder lately. One day it was so bad, the "rattle" (sounds
> >like metal tapping metal, actually) was happening at idle. I got out,

and
> >since I was in uniform and couldn't crawl under it, I just stuck my foot

on
> >the tailpipe to see if that would stop it, and it seemed to.
> >
> >I'm finally home, but can't get it to duplicate at a time when I can put

it
> >up on stands and take a look at it. Every time I do, it won't duplicate.

I
> >DID find a lot of green/white powdery stuff caked on the pipe between the
> >cat and the muffler. I've never seen that before. The pipe has a thick
> >coating of this junk from end to end of the pipe connecting the cat to

the
> >muffler.
> >
> >Any thoughts on this? It isn't one of those "it's a Jeep, it makes noise,
> >deal with it" situations. My wife thought the muffler was dragging
> >yesterday it got so bad.
> >
> >By the way, I tapped, pulled, pushed, and prodded the exhaust from the
> >downpipe back. Nothing loose that I could see.
> >
> >Eric
> >99 TJ SE
> >

> Ditto on the cat comments I have had a few go like that.... change it
> before it plugs right up or causes excessive back pressure on your
> engine. The first one that went on me rattled for a few months then it
> decided to break up and jam into the cat outlet nozzle and drop my
> forward momentum to a crawl, I actually went out and drilled a 5/8"
> hole in the front of the converter to allow me to drive to the muffler
> shop.





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