T5 INSTALL - WONT SHIFT, HELP!
 

Give me the dumba$$ award today.

i dropped the tranny (T5) and T-case (D300) a week ago to replace the
clutch. While it was out, i replaced T_case front oil seal to correct
a leak, replaced the T-5 input shaft bearing cap (the old one was
scored pretty bad from the throwoutbearing).....

I also removed the roll pin on the T-5 shift rail to offset lever,
thinking it would get me access to the T5 top cover. the cover
wouldn't come off so i reinstalled the roll pin and left it go. now
its all reinstalled in the heep, but can't get the tranny to shift
from the gear its in (3rd looks like from the detent ball pattern).

when i removed the roll pin, the shift lever moved forward, but I
pulled it back into position to reinstall it. now i find out that
(work 1st, read the instructions later... oops) to get that top cover
off, I had to remove the extensoin housing in the T5.

to make a long story short, is there anything, that I can do to to fix
this and free up the tranny, short of removing the T-5/Tcase/skid
plate assembly again? I was thinking something along the lines of
removing the roll pin again and see if I can get the offset lever to
move into neutral and reconnecting it.

the tranny rotates fine, as I needed to rotate it to align the splines
in the clutch disc.

Help me please !

thanks

brian

Re: T5 INSTALL - WONT SHIFT, HELP!
 

Hi Brian,
Would you point to what you call the "roll pin" in this too small
an exploded view: http://www.----------.com/BorgWarnerT5.jpg I sounds
like you're talking about the interlocking pin, which don't know where
it's at on a T-5, anyway. Anyway, I'd retry pulling the shaft lever
stick out and back in and fish and pull the bars back into the neutral
position, then if the notches align up, then see if it shifts. Here
hoping the intermediate bearings didn't fall out during the time the
input bearing was loose, or one of the forks is out of it's groove from
when you tried to lift the top cover.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
hammertime wrote:
>
> Give me the dumba$$ award today.
>
> i dropped the tranny (T5) and T-case (D300) a week ago to replace the
> clutch. While it was out, i replaced T_case front oil seal to correct
> a leak, replaced the T-5 input shaft bearing cap (the old one was
> scored pretty bad from the throwoutbearing).....
>
> I also removed the roll pin on the T-5 shift rail to offset lever,
> thinking it would get me access to the T5 top cover. the cover
> wouldn't come off so i reinstalled the roll pin and left it go. now
> its all reinstalled in the heep, but can't get the tranny to shift
> from the gear its in (3rd looks like from the detent ball pattern).
>
> when i removed the roll pin, the shift lever moved forward, but I
> pulled it back into position to reinstall it. now i find out that
> (work 1st, read the instructions later... oops) to get that top cover
> off, I had to remove the extensoin housing in the T5.
>
> to make a long story short, is there anything, that I can do to to fix
> this and free up the tranny, short of removing the T-5/Tcase/skid
> plate assembly again? I was thinking something along the lines of
> removing the roll pin again and see if I can get the offset lever to
> move into neutral and reconnecting it.
>
> the tranny rotates fine, as I needed to rotate it to align the splines
> in the clutch disc.
>
> Help me please !
>
> thanks
>
> brian

Re: T5 INSTALL - WONT SHIFT, HELP!
 

Hi Brian,
Would you point to what you call the "roll pin" in this too small
an exploded view: http://www.----------.com/BorgWarnerT5.jpg I sounds
like you're talking about the interlocking pin, which don't know where
it's at on a T-5, anyway. Anyway, I'd retry pulling the shaft lever
stick out and back in and fish and pull the bars back into the neutral
position, then if the notches align up, then see if it shifts. Here
hoping the intermediate bearings didn't fall out during the time the
input bearing was loose, or one of the forks is out of it's groove from
when you tried to lift the top cover.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
hammertime wrote:
>
> Give me the dumba$$ award today.
>
> i dropped the tranny (T5) and T-case (D300) a week ago to replace the
> clutch. While it was out, i replaced T_case front oil seal to correct
> a leak, replaced the T-5 input shaft bearing cap (the old one was
> scored pretty bad from the throwoutbearing).....
>
> I also removed the roll pin on the T-5 shift rail to offset lever,
> thinking it would get me access to the T5 top cover. the cover
> wouldn't come off so i reinstalled the roll pin and left it go. now
> its all reinstalled in the heep, but can't get the tranny to shift
> from the gear its in (3rd looks like from the detent ball pattern).
>
> when i removed the roll pin, the shift lever moved forward, but I
> pulled it back into position to reinstall it. now i find out that
> (work 1st, read the instructions later... oops) to get that top cover
> off, I had to remove the extensoin housing in the T5.
>
> to make a long story short, is there anything, that I can do to to fix
> this and free up the tranny, short of removing the T-5/Tcase/skid
> plate assembly again? I was thinking something along the lines of
> removing the roll pin again and see if I can get the offset lever to
> move into neutral and reconnecting it.
>
> the tranny rotates fine, as I needed to rotate it to align the splines
> in the clutch disc.
>
> Help me please !
>
> thanks
>
> brian

Re: T5 INSTALL - WONT SHIFT, HELP!
 

Hi Brian,
Would you point to what you call the "roll pin" in this too small
an exploded view: http://www.----------.com/BorgWarnerT5.jpg I sounds
like you're talking about the interlocking pin, which don't know where
it's at on a T-5, anyway. Anyway, I'd retry pulling the shaft lever
stick out and back in and fish and pull the bars back into the neutral
position, then if the notches align up, then see if it shifts. Here
hoping the intermediate bearings didn't fall out during the time the
input bearing was loose, or one of the forks is out of it's groove from
when you tried to lift the top cover.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
hammertime wrote:
>
> Give me the dumba$$ award today.
>
> i dropped the tranny (T5) and T-case (D300) a week ago to replace the
> clutch. While it was out, i replaced T_case front oil seal to correct
> a leak, replaced the T-5 input shaft bearing cap (the old one was
> scored pretty bad from the throwoutbearing).....
>
> I also removed the roll pin on the T-5 shift rail to offset lever,
> thinking it would get me access to the T5 top cover. the cover
> wouldn't come off so i reinstalled the roll pin and left it go. now
> its all reinstalled in the heep, but can't get the tranny to shift
> from the gear its in (3rd looks like from the detent ball pattern).
>
> when i removed the roll pin, the shift lever moved forward, but I
> pulled it back into position to reinstall it. now i find out that
> (work 1st, read the instructions later... oops) to get that top cover
> off, I had to remove the extensoin housing in the T5.
>
> to make a long story short, is there anything, that I can do to to fix
> this and free up the tranny, short of removing the T-5/Tcase/skid
> plate assembly again? I was thinking something along the lines of
> removing the roll pin again and see if I can get the offset lever to
> move into neutral and reconnecting it.
>
> the tranny rotates fine, as I needed to rotate it to align the splines
> in the clutch disc.
>
> Help me please !
>
> thanks
>
> brian

Re: T5 INSTALL - WONT SHIFT, HELP!
 

Thanks for the help Bill.... it'll have to wait until after work
tomorrow to get at it again. your T-5 picture looks strikingly similar
to that in my 4wd catalog. anyways, i wish itwas numbered, but its the
small pin looks like this (_) ( I bought a replacement at the
hardware store.... they called it a tension pin) that connects the
offest lever to the shift rail... its visible once you remove the
shift lever assembly (pc. 4)

thanks again. i cant wait to get my scrambler back on the road while
its still nice out here in VA these next few days....
brian


On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 16:38:39 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

>Hi Brian,
> Would you point to what you call the "roll pin" in this too small
>an exploded view: http://www.----------.com/BorgWarnerT5.jpg I sounds
>like you're talking about the interlocking pin, which don't know where
>it's at on a T-5, anyway. Anyway, I'd retry pulling the shaft lever
>stick out and back in and fish and pull the bars back into the neutral
>position, then if the notches align up, then see if it shifts. Here
>hoping the intermediate bearings didn't fall out during the time the
>input bearing was loose, or one of the forks is out of it's groove from
>when you tried to lift the top cover.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:--------------------
>hammertime wrote:
>>
>> Give me the dumba$$ award today.
>>
>> i dropped the tranny (T5) and T-case (D300) a week ago to replace the
>> clutch. While it was out, i replaced T_case front oil seal to correct
>> a leak, replaced the T-5 input shaft bearing cap (the old one was
>> scored pretty bad from the throwoutbearing).....
>>
>> I also removed the roll pin on the T-5 shift rail to offset lever,
>> thinking it would get me access to the T5 top cover. the cover
>> wouldn't come off so i reinstalled the roll pin and left it go. now
>> its all reinstalled in the heep, but can't get the tranny to shift
>> from the gear its in (3rd looks like from the detent ball pattern).
>>
>> when i removed the roll pin, the shift lever moved forward, but I
>> pulled it back into position to reinstall it. now i find out that
>> (work 1st, read the instructions later... oops) to get that top cover
>> off, I had to remove the extensoin housing in the T5.
>>
>> to make a long story short, is there anything, that I can do to to fix
>> this and free up the tranny, short of removing the T-5/Tcase/skid
>> plate assembly again? I was thinking something along the lines of
>> removing the roll pin again and see if I can get the offset lever to
>> move into neutral and reconnecting it.
>>
>> the tranny rotates fine, as I needed to rotate it to align the splines
>> in the clutch disc.
>>
>> Help me please !
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> brian

Re: T5 INSTALL - WONT SHIFT, HELP!
 

Thanks for the help Bill.... it'll have to wait until after work
tomorrow to get at it again. your T-5 picture looks strikingly similar
to that in my 4wd catalog. anyways, i wish itwas numbered, but its the
small pin looks like this (_) ( I bought a replacement at the
hardware store.... they called it a tension pin) that connects the
offest lever to the shift rail... its visible once you remove the
shift lever assembly (pc. 4)

thanks again. i cant wait to get my scrambler back on the road while
its still nice out here in VA these next few days....
brian


On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 16:38:39 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

>Hi Brian,
> Would you point to what you call the "roll pin" in this too small
>an exploded view: http://www.----------.com/BorgWarnerT5.jpg I sounds
>like you're talking about the interlocking pin, which don't know where
>it's at on a T-5, anyway. Anyway, I'd retry pulling the shaft lever
>stick out and back in and fish and pull the bars back into the neutral
>position, then if the notches align up, then see if it shifts. Here
>hoping the intermediate bearings didn't fall out during the time the
>input bearing was loose, or one of the forks is out of it's groove from
>when you tried to lift the top cover.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:--------------------
>hammertime wrote:
>>
>> Give me the dumba$$ award today.
>>
>> i dropped the tranny (T5) and T-case (D300) a week ago to replace the
>> clutch. While it was out, i replaced T_case front oil seal to correct
>> a leak, replaced the T-5 input shaft bearing cap (the old one was
>> scored pretty bad from the throwoutbearing).....
>>
>> I also removed the roll pin on the T-5 shift rail to offset lever,
>> thinking it would get me access to the T5 top cover. the cover
>> wouldn't come off so i reinstalled the roll pin and left it go. now
>> its all reinstalled in the heep, but can't get the tranny to shift
>> from the gear its in (3rd looks like from the detent ball pattern).
>>
>> when i removed the roll pin, the shift lever moved forward, but I
>> pulled it back into position to reinstall it. now i find out that
>> (work 1st, read the instructions later... oops) to get that top cover
>> off, I had to remove the extensoin housing in the T5.
>>
>> to make a long story short, is there anything, that I can do to to fix
>> this and free up the tranny, short of removing the T-5/Tcase/skid
>> plate assembly again? I was thinking something along the lines of
>> removing the roll pin again and see if I can get the offset lever to
>> move into neutral and reconnecting it.
>>
>> the tranny rotates fine, as I needed to rotate it to align the splines
>> in the clutch disc.
>>
>> Help me please !
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> brian

Re: T5 INSTALL - WONT SHIFT, HELP!
 

Thanks for the help Bill.... it'll have to wait until after work
tomorrow to get at it again. your T-5 picture looks strikingly similar
to that in my 4wd catalog. anyways, i wish itwas numbered, but its the
small pin looks like this (_) ( I bought a replacement at the
hardware store.... they called it a tension pin) that connects the
offest lever to the shift rail... its visible once you remove the
shift lever assembly (pc. 4)

thanks again. i cant wait to get my scrambler back on the road while
its still nice out here in VA these next few days....
brian


On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 16:38:39 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

>Hi Brian,
> Would you point to what you call the "roll pin" in this too small
>an exploded view: http://www.----------.com/BorgWarnerT5.jpg I sounds
>like you're talking about the interlocking pin, which don't know where
>it's at on a T-5, anyway. Anyway, I'd retry pulling the shaft lever
>stick out and back in and fish and pull the bars back into the neutral
>position, then if the notches align up, then see if it shifts. Here
>hoping the intermediate bearings didn't fall out during the time the
>input bearing was loose, or one of the forks is out of it's groove from
>when you tried to lift the top cover.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:--------------------
>hammertime wrote:
>>
>> Give me the dumba$$ award today.
>>
>> i dropped the tranny (T5) and T-case (D300) a week ago to replace the
>> clutch. While it was out, i replaced T_case front oil seal to correct
>> a leak, replaced the T-5 input shaft bearing cap (the old one was
>> scored pretty bad from the throwoutbearing).....
>>
>> I also removed the roll pin on the T-5 shift rail to offset lever,
>> thinking it would get me access to the T5 top cover. the cover
>> wouldn't come off so i reinstalled the roll pin and left it go. now
>> its all reinstalled in the heep, but can't get the tranny to shift
>> from the gear its in (3rd looks like from the detent ball pattern).
>>
>> when i removed the roll pin, the shift lever moved forward, but I
>> pulled it back into position to reinstall it. now i find out that
>> (work 1st, read the instructions later... oops) to get that top cover
>> off, I had to remove the extensoin housing in the T5.
>>
>> to make a long story short, is there anything, that I can do to to fix
>> this and free up the tranny, short of removing the T-5/Tcase/skid
>> plate assembly again? I was thinking something along the lines of
>> removing the roll pin again and see if I can get the offset lever to
>> move into neutral and reconnecting it.
>>
>> the tranny rotates fine, as I needed to rotate it to align the splines
>> in the clutch disc.
>>
>> Help me please !
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> brian