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Jeff DeWitt 02-21-2005 03:22 PM

T-86 shifter question
 
This one ought to be a little different!

I understand that many early Jeeps had T-86 transmissions with floor
shifts. My Studebaker Champ pickup also has a T-86 but it's a column
shift. I'd love to convert this truck to a floor shift (and would
really like to set up something like the old Twin Stick system AMC used).

Anyone have one of these shifters or a junk transmission that I could
scavenge for the parts, or know where one of these things might be
located? I see someone has exactly what I'm looking for on ebay, except
it's for a T-90.

Thanks!

Jeff DeWitt

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-21-2005 04:12 PM

Re: T-86 shifter question
 
Twin stick? That's to the transfer gears. Just in case you were
thinking you could just add the shift tower to the top of your
transmission, without removing it's forks. A broken T-86 is at
tascherATattDOTcom here on the west coast. But, I would think the Study
would worth far more in it's classic form.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>
> This one ought to be a little different!
>
> I understand that many early Jeeps had T-86 transmissions with floor
> shifts. My Studebaker Champ pickup also has a T-86 but it's a column
> shift. I'd love to convert this truck to a floor shift (and would
> really like to set up something like the old Twin Stick system AMC used).
>
> Anyone have one of these shifters or a junk transmission that I could
> scavenge for the parts, or know where one of these things might be
> located? I see someone has exactly what I'm looking for on ebay, except
> it's for a T-90.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jeff DeWitt


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-21-2005 04:12 PM

Re: T-86 shifter question
 
Twin stick? That's to the transfer gears. Just in case you were
thinking you could just add the shift tower to the top of your
transmission, without removing it's forks. A broken T-86 is at
tascherATattDOTcom here on the west coast. But, I would think the Study
would worth far more in it's classic form.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>
> This one ought to be a little different!
>
> I understand that many early Jeeps had T-86 transmissions with floor
> shifts. My Studebaker Champ pickup also has a T-86 but it's a column
> shift. I'd love to convert this truck to a floor shift (and would
> really like to set up something like the old Twin Stick system AMC used).
>
> Anyone have one of these shifters or a junk transmission that I could
> scavenge for the parts, or know where one of these things might be
> located? I see someone has exactly what I'm looking for on ebay, except
> it's for a T-90.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jeff DeWitt


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-21-2005 04:12 PM

Re: T-86 shifter question
 
Twin stick? That's to the transfer gears. Just in case you were
thinking you could just add the shift tower to the top of your
transmission, without removing it's forks. A broken T-86 is at
tascherATattDOTcom here on the west coast. But, I would think the Study
would worth far more in it's classic form.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>
> This one ought to be a little different!
>
> I understand that many early Jeeps had T-86 transmissions with floor
> shifts. My Studebaker Champ pickup also has a T-86 but it's a column
> shift. I'd love to convert this truck to a floor shift (and would
> really like to set up something like the old Twin Stick system AMC used).
>
> Anyone have one of these shifters or a junk transmission that I could
> scavenge for the parts, or know where one of these things might be
> located? I see someone has exactly what I'm looking for on ebay, except
> it's for a T-90.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jeff DeWitt


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-21-2005 04:19 PM

Re: T-86 shifter question
 
For those that don't remember what a Studdy looks like:
http://www.cars.com/features/autosho...r_lead_425.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-21-2005 04:19 PM

Re: T-86 shifter question
 
For those that don't remember what a Studdy looks like:
http://www.cars.com/features/autosho...r_lead_425.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-21-2005 04:19 PM

Re: T-86 shifter question
 
For those that don't remember what a Studdy looks like:
http://www.cars.com/features/autosho...r_lead_425.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeff DeWitt 02-21-2005 07:09 PM

Re: T-86 shifter question
 
I know I'd have to remove the original shift forks, but this wasn't an
unuseual conversion back in the 50's and early 60's.

My truck left South Bend in 1960 with a little flathead 6 and some
previous owner put in an early Stude 289 V8 and this transmission, so
it's hardly stock. I've also had FAR more experience working on this
transmission than I ever wanted to have. The OD went bad and I'm in the
process of replacing it, which entails taking the transmission apart and
putting it back together... what a PAIN!. Besides this truck is a
keeper, I'm not working on it to make it more valuable, I'm working on
it because I love driving the thing (and hope to drive it to Alaska!).

You are reasonably thinking of the twin stick system that Jeep used
(after all this IS a Jeep newsgroup!), however AMC also had a twin stick
system they used in cars. One stick was for the shifter, the other was
an overdrive lockout lever and it had a button on the top that you could
use for a quick down shift. Studebakers version of the lockout was a
handle under the dash, which worked but wasn't nearly as cool as the AMC
Twin Stick.

http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ma...twin-stick.gif

Thanks!

Jeff DeWitt

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:

> Twin stick? That's to the transfer gears. Just in case you were
> thinking you could just add the shift tower to the top of your
> transmission, without removing it's forks. A broken T-86 is at
> tascherATattDOTcom here on the west coast. But, I would think the Study
> would worth far more in it's classic form.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>
>>This one ought to be a little different!
>>
>>I understand that many early Jeeps had T-86 transmissions with floor
>>shifts. My Studebaker Champ pickup also has a T-86 but it's a column
>>shift. I'd love to convert this truck to a floor shift (and would
>>really like to set up something like the old Twin Stick system AMC used).
>>
>>Anyone have one of these shifters or a junk transmission that I could
>>scavenge for the parts, or know where one of these things might be
>>located? I see someone has exactly what I'm looking for on ebay, except
>>it's for a T-90.
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>Jeff DeWitt


Jeff DeWitt 02-21-2005 07:09 PM

Re: T-86 shifter question
 
I know I'd have to remove the original shift forks, but this wasn't an
unuseual conversion back in the 50's and early 60's.

My truck left South Bend in 1960 with a little flathead 6 and some
previous owner put in an early Stude 289 V8 and this transmission, so
it's hardly stock. I've also had FAR more experience working on this
transmission than I ever wanted to have. The OD went bad and I'm in the
process of replacing it, which entails taking the transmission apart and
putting it back together... what a PAIN!. Besides this truck is a
keeper, I'm not working on it to make it more valuable, I'm working on
it because I love driving the thing (and hope to drive it to Alaska!).

You are reasonably thinking of the twin stick system that Jeep used
(after all this IS a Jeep newsgroup!), however AMC also had a twin stick
system they used in cars. One stick was for the shifter, the other was
an overdrive lockout lever and it had a button on the top that you could
use for a quick down shift. Studebakers version of the lockout was a
handle under the dash, which worked but wasn't nearly as cool as the AMC
Twin Stick.

http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ma...twin-stick.gif

Thanks!

Jeff DeWitt

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:

> Twin stick? That's to the transfer gears. Just in case you were
> thinking you could just add the shift tower to the top of your
> transmission, without removing it's forks. A broken T-86 is at
> tascherATattDOTcom here on the west coast. But, I would think the Study
> would worth far more in it's classic form.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>
>>This one ought to be a little different!
>>
>>I understand that many early Jeeps had T-86 transmissions with floor
>>shifts. My Studebaker Champ pickup also has a T-86 but it's a column
>>shift. I'd love to convert this truck to a floor shift (and would
>>really like to set up something like the old Twin Stick system AMC used).
>>
>>Anyone have one of these shifters or a junk transmission that I could
>>scavenge for the parts, or know where one of these things might be
>>located? I see someone has exactly what I'm looking for on ebay, except
>>it's for a T-90.
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>Jeff DeWitt


Jeff DeWitt 02-21-2005 07:09 PM

Re: T-86 shifter question
 
I know I'd have to remove the original shift forks, but this wasn't an
unuseual conversion back in the 50's and early 60's.

My truck left South Bend in 1960 with a little flathead 6 and some
previous owner put in an early Stude 289 V8 and this transmission, so
it's hardly stock. I've also had FAR more experience working on this
transmission than I ever wanted to have. The OD went bad and I'm in the
process of replacing it, which entails taking the transmission apart and
putting it back together... what a PAIN!. Besides this truck is a
keeper, I'm not working on it to make it more valuable, I'm working on
it because I love driving the thing (and hope to drive it to Alaska!).

You are reasonably thinking of the twin stick system that Jeep used
(after all this IS a Jeep newsgroup!), however AMC also had a twin stick
system they used in cars. One stick was for the shifter, the other was
an overdrive lockout lever and it had a button on the top that you could
use for a quick down shift. Studebakers version of the lockout was a
handle under the dash, which worked but wasn't nearly as cool as the AMC
Twin Stick.

http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ma...twin-stick.gif

Thanks!

Jeff DeWitt

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:

> Twin stick? That's to the transfer gears. Just in case you were
> thinking you could just add the shift tower to the top of your
> transmission, without removing it's forks. A broken T-86 is at
> tascherATattDOTcom here on the west coast. But, I would think the Study
> would worth far more in it's classic form.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>
>>This one ought to be a little different!
>>
>>I understand that many early Jeeps had T-86 transmissions with floor
>>shifts. My Studebaker Champ pickup also has a T-86 but it's a column
>>shift. I'd love to convert this truck to a floor shift (and would
>>really like to set up something like the old Twin Stick system AMC used).
>>
>>Anyone have one of these shifters or a junk transmission that I could
>>scavenge for the parts, or know where one of these things might be
>>located? I see someone has exactly what I'm looking for on ebay, except
>>it's for a T-90.
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>Jeff DeWitt



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