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Bob 08-16-2004 03:01 PM

Re: Synthetic Rope for Winch Cable ?
 
To my knowledge (and I know the kind folks on this board will say so
if I'm wrong here), many, if not all, of the rock-crawling
competitions are now requiring the synthetic winch line. One of the
very good quality ones is X-Line.

One of the major benefits of the synthetic winch rope is that it
weighs next to nothing as compared to steel cable. Yes, you need to
make sure you don't drag it over rocks (which is why you get a long
snake-like sheeth that will go over the rope that you can slide into
place where the rope may contact a rock). But, if the rope should ever
break, there won't be near the stored energy as with a steel cable,
and the resulting whipping of the rope won't be so catastrophic to
person nor vehicle.

I have a friend with a Warn who had the same problem as you; hardly
ever needed to use his winch, and when we needed it last year, found
it had a bad kink in it; apparently he hadn't reeled it in perfectly
the last time, and didn't realize it. So, he replaced it with the
synthetic rope, and it works great. Plus, there is no danger of
kinking this kind of rope, so it's not as imperative that the rope lay
JUST SO when reeling it back in. He's already tested it a couple
times, once pulling a fullsize truck equipped with a plow up out onto
a driveway it had slid off of at a friend's backwoods mountain house.

One thing you have to remember to look for is a rope that has a
high-temp treatment or material for the first x number of feet
(depending on the size of your winch, this requirement of length
varies) so that the minimum first wrap of the line has this
material/coating. The regular rope used for the rest of the winch line
would melt if it was the first wrap, due to the intense heat that
builds up on the winch drum during operation.

Hope that helps you with your decision. Were I in your shoes and I
could afford the more expensive synth rope, I would definitely get it.
I've seen it in action, and it is great. SO much easier to work with
than the steel crap.

/Bob


"James Nipper" <jnipper@nospam.fdn.com> wrote in message news:<35Kdna-uNLI6I4LcRVn-gg@comcast.com>...
> In addition to being a Jeep enthusiast, I also have several atv's, and
> use a 2500 lb winch on one of them, a Honda Foreman. I have posted
> this query in an atv group, but I feel that some of you folks use winches
> and will have some good advice on my questions.
>
>
> I just ruined the 50 foot steel cable on my Warn winch, so I will be looking
> for a replacement soon. In the past few years I have seen comments/ads on
> many folks now using some rope products for winch cable. It seems there
> are some benefits if you take care of it and don't keep it wet all the time
> and/or expose it to sun for long periods of time.
>
> I would like to hear comments from those who have **actually used** a rope
> for a winch cable on an atv or passenger vehicle, and what experiences you
> have had. Also, if there is a preferred brand, please let me know.
>
> While I would like to have a 100 foot rope to replace my old 50 foot one,
> I don't know if 100 feet would fit on a Warn 2500 atv winch.
>
> Thanks for any input !!!!!
>
>
> --James--


Bob 08-16-2004 03:01 PM

Re: Synthetic Rope for Winch Cable ?
 
To my knowledge (and I know the kind folks on this board will say so
if I'm wrong here), many, if not all, of the rock-crawling
competitions are now requiring the synthetic winch line. One of the
very good quality ones is X-Line.

One of the major benefits of the synthetic winch rope is that it
weighs next to nothing as compared to steel cable. Yes, you need to
make sure you don't drag it over rocks (which is why you get a long
snake-like sheeth that will go over the rope that you can slide into
place where the rope may contact a rock). But, if the rope should ever
break, there won't be near the stored energy as with a steel cable,
and the resulting whipping of the rope won't be so catastrophic to
person nor vehicle.

I have a friend with a Warn who had the same problem as you; hardly
ever needed to use his winch, and when we needed it last year, found
it had a bad kink in it; apparently he hadn't reeled it in perfectly
the last time, and didn't realize it. So, he replaced it with the
synthetic rope, and it works great. Plus, there is no danger of
kinking this kind of rope, so it's not as imperative that the rope lay
JUST SO when reeling it back in. He's already tested it a couple
times, once pulling a fullsize truck equipped with a plow up out onto
a driveway it had slid off of at a friend's backwoods mountain house.

One thing you have to remember to look for is a rope that has a
high-temp treatment or material for the first x number of feet
(depending on the size of your winch, this requirement of length
varies) so that the minimum first wrap of the line has this
material/coating. The regular rope used for the rest of the winch line
would melt if it was the first wrap, due to the intense heat that
builds up on the winch drum during operation.

Hope that helps you with your decision. Were I in your shoes and I
could afford the more expensive synth rope, I would definitely get it.
I've seen it in action, and it is great. SO much easier to work with
than the steel crap.

/Bob


"James Nipper" <jnipper@nospam.fdn.com> wrote in message news:<35Kdna-uNLI6I4LcRVn-gg@comcast.com>...
> In addition to being a Jeep enthusiast, I also have several atv's, and
> use a 2500 lb winch on one of them, a Honda Foreman. I have posted
> this query in an atv group, but I feel that some of you folks use winches
> and will have some good advice on my questions.
>
>
> I just ruined the 50 foot steel cable on my Warn winch, so I will be looking
> for a replacement soon. In the past few years I have seen comments/ads on
> many folks now using some rope products for winch cable. It seems there
> are some benefits if you take care of it and don't keep it wet all the time
> and/or expose it to sun for long periods of time.
>
> I would like to hear comments from those who have **actually used** a rope
> for a winch cable on an atv or passenger vehicle, and what experiences you
> have had. Also, if there is a preferred brand, please let me know.
>
> While I would like to have a 100 foot rope to replace my old 50 foot one,
> I don't know if 100 feet would fit on a Warn 2500 atv winch.
>
> Thanks for any input !!!!!
>
>
> --James--


Bob 08-16-2004 03:01 PM

Re: Synthetic Rope for Winch Cable ?
 
To my knowledge (and I know the kind folks on this board will say so
if I'm wrong here), many, if not all, of the rock-crawling
competitions are now requiring the synthetic winch line. One of the
very good quality ones is X-Line.

One of the major benefits of the synthetic winch rope is that it
weighs next to nothing as compared to steel cable. Yes, you need to
make sure you don't drag it over rocks (which is why you get a long
snake-like sheeth that will go over the rope that you can slide into
place where the rope may contact a rock). But, if the rope should ever
break, there won't be near the stored energy as with a steel cable,
and the resulting whipping of the rope won't be so catastrophic to
person nor vehicle.

I have a friend with a Warn who had the same problem as you; hardly
ever needed to use his winch, and when we needed it last year, found
it had a bad kink in it; apparently he hadn't reeled it in perfectly
the last time, and didn't realize it. So, he replaced it with the
synthetic rope, and it works great. Plus, there is no danger of
kinking this kind of rope, so it's not as imperative that the rope lay
JUST SO when reeling it back in. He's already tested it a couple
times, once pulling a fullsize truck equipped with a plow up out onto
a driveway it had slid off of at a friend's backwoods mountain house.

One thing you have to remember to look for is a rope that has a
high-temp treatment or material for the first x number of feet
(depending on the size of your winch, this requirement of length
varies) so that the minimum first wrap of the line has this
material/coating. The regular rope used for the rest of the winch line
would melt if it was the first wrap, due to the intense heat that
builds up on the winch drum during operation.

Hope that helps you with your decision. Were I in your shoes and I
could afford the more expensive synth rope, I would definitely get it.
I've seen it in action, and it is great. SO much easier to work with
than the steel crap.

/Bob


"James Nipper" <jnipper@nospam.fdn.com> wrote in message news:<35Kdna-uNLI6I4LcRVn-gg@comcast.com>...
> In addition to being a Jeep enthusiast, I also have several atv's, and
> use a 2500 lb winch on one of them, a Honda Foreman. I have posted
> this query in an atv group, but I feel that some of you folks use winches
> and will have some good advice on my questions.
>
>
> I just ruined the 50 foot steel cable on my Warn winch, so I will be looking
> for a replacement soon. In the past few years I have seen comments/ads on
> many folks now using some rope products for winch cable. It seems there
> are some benefits if you take care of it and don't keep it wet all the time
> and/or expose it to sun for long periods of time.
>
> I would like to hear comments from those who have **actually used** a rope
> for a winch cable on an atv or passenger vehicle, and what experiences you
> have had. Also, if there is a preferred brand, please let me know.
>
> While I would like to have a 100 foot rope to replace my old 50 foot one,
> I don't know if 100 feet would fit on a Warn 2500 atv winch.
>
> Thanks for any input !!!!!
>
>
> --James--


James Nipper 08-16-2004 04:05 PM

Re: Synthetic Rope for Winch Cable ?
 


Very helpful post Bob, thanks a lot !!


--James--

James Nipper 08-16-2004 04:05 PM

Re: Synthetic Rope for Winch Cable ?
 


Very helpful post Bob, thanks a lot !!


--James--

James Nipper 08-16-2004 04:05 PM

Re: Synthetic Rope for Winch Cable ?
 


Very helpful post Bob, thanks a lot !!


--James--

James Nipper 08-16-2004 04:05 PM

Re: Synthetic Rope for Winch Cable ?
 


Very helpful post Bob, thanks a lot !!


--James--

CRWLR 08-16-2004 04:22 PM

Re: Synthetic Rope for Winch Cable ?
 
I haven't used one, but I know of them and have seen them in use. I can't
think of any reason to not use them.




"James Nipper" <jnipper@nospam.fdn.com> wrote in message
news:35Kdna-uNLI6I4LcRVn-gg@comcast.com...
> In addition to being a Jeep enthusiast, I also have several atv's, and
> use a 2500 lb winch on one of them, a Honda Foreman. I have posted
> this query in an atv group, but I feel that some of you folks use winches
> and will have some good advice on my questions.
>
>
> I just ruined the 50 foot steel cable on my Warn winch, so I will be

looking
> for a replacement soon. In the past few years I have seen comments/ads

on
> many folks now using some rope products for winch cable. It seems there
> are some benefits if you take care of it and don't keep it wet all the

time
> and/or expose it to sun for long periods of time.
>
> I would like to hear comments from those who have **actually used** a

rope
> for a winch cable on an atv or passenger vehicle, and what experiences you
> have had. Also, if there is a preferred brand, please let me know.
>
> While I would like to have a 100 foot rope to replace my old 50 foot one,
> I don't know if 100 feet would fit on a Warn 2500 atv winch.
>
> Thanks for any input !!!!!
>
>
> --James--
>




CRWLR 08-16-2004 04:22 PM

Re: Synthetic Rope for Winch Cable ?
 
I haven't used one, but I know of them and have seen them in use. I can't
think of any reason to not use them.




"James Nipper" <jnipper@nospam.fdn.com> wrote in message
news:35Kdna-uNLI6I4LcRVn-gg@comcast.com...
> In addition to being a Jeep enthusiast, I also have several atv's, and
> use a 2500 lb winch on one of them, a Honda Foreman. I have posted
> this query in an atv group, but I feel that some of you folks use winches
> and will have some good advice on my questions.
>
>
> I just ruined the 50 foot steel cable on my Warn winch, so I will be

looking
> for a replacement soon. In the past few years I have seen comments/ads

on
> many folks now using some rope products for winch cable. It seems there
> are some benefits if you take care of it and don't keep it wet all the

time
> and/or expose it to sun for long periods of time.
>
> I would like to hear comments from those who have **actually used** a

rope
> for a winch cable on an atv or passenger vehicle, and what experiences you
> have had. Also, if there is a preferred brand, please let me know.
>
> While I would like to have a 100 foot rope to replace my old 50 foot one,
> I don't know if 100 feet would fit on a Warn 2500 atv winch.
>
> Thanks for any input !!!!!
>
>
> --James--
>




CRWLR 08-16-2004 04:22 PM

Re: Synthetic Rope for Winch Cable ?
 
I haven't used one, but I know of them and have seen them in use. I can't
think of any reason to not use them.




"James Nipper" <jnipper@nospam.fdn.com> wrote in message
news:35Kdna-uNLI6I4LcRVn-gg@comcast.com...
> In addition to being a Jeep enthusiast, I also have several atv's, and
> use a 2500 lb winch on one of them, a Honda Foreman. I have posted
> this query in an atv group, but I feel that some of you folks use winches
> and will have some good advice on my questions.
>
>
> I just ruined the 50 foot steel cable on my Warn winch, so I will be

looking
> for a replacement soon. In the past few years I have seen comments/ads

on
> many folks now using some rope products for winch cable. It seems there
> are some benefits if you take care of it and don't keep it wet all the

time
> and/or expose it to sun for long periods of time.
>
> I would like to hear comments from those who have **actually used** a

rope
> for a winch cable on an atv or passenger vehicle, and what experiences you
> have had. Also, if there is a preferred brand, please let me know.
>
> While I would like to have a 100 foot rope to replace my old 50 foot one,
> I don't know if 100 feet would fit on a Warn 2500 atv winch.
>
> Thanks for any input !!!!!
>
>
> --James--
>





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