I've had better luck in really cold weather with the synth. The
starting viscosity seems to be better than the W value on the can.
Biggest benefit i've noted is heavy driving in triple digit heat, where
they tend to out last the traditionals.

I also get just about a mile a gallon better mileage at cruising speed
with a tad less useage, but only really notice this on trips of a couple
thousand miles.


billy ray proclaimed:

> Perhaps you should have regularly doused your XJ and ZJ with dino juice.
>
> I believe in the superior properties inherent in the 'synthetics' but also
> readily admit that if regular and proper maintenance is performed and the
> vehicle is not used in weather extremes then it is probably not fiscally
> justified.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:zMyUf.9202$ji6.483197@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
>
>>I agree, I run only dino oil in my 93 XJ and ZJ and have almost 400,000
>>km's on the XJ, the drive train is still in great shape, the rest of the
>>vehicle is not..
>>
>>Snow...
>>
>>
>>"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
>>news:4422b59a$0$19435$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver .com...
>>
>>>Don't switch to Mobil 1, do change your oil every 6,000 miles, and save
>>>enough money for a six month trip to Spain, like I just got back from.
>>>Life
>>>is too short, to be so persnickety about oil type. Do you race? Do you
>>>motor in extreme conditions? No, you don't. Just use the API
>>>designation
>>>and proper weight from your Owner's Manual.
>>>
>>>Earle
>>>
>>>"John" <jstio@optonline.net> wrote in message
>>>news:z1wUf.58$Za5.25@fe11.lga...
>>>
>>>>Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>I am planning on switching over to Synthetic oil for all my vehicles
>>>>including my 02 TJ.
>>>>
>>>>I figured i would go with Mobil one, but then i found that mobil makes 4
>>>>types of synthetic.
>>>>
>>>>What is the difference, other then cost between: Mobil Clean 5000 and
>>>
>>>Mobil
>>>
>>>>1.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for the help.
>>>>
>>>>JOHN
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>
>

 

I've had better luck in really cold weather with the synth. The
starting viscosity seems to be better than the W value on the can.
Biggest benefit i've noted is heavy driving in triple digit heat, where
they tend to out last the traditionals.

I also get just about a mile a gallon better mileage at cruising speed
with a tad less useage, but only really notice this on trips of a couple
thousand miles.


billy ray proclaimed:

> Perhaps you should have regularly doused your XJ and ZJ with dino juice.
>
> I believe in the superior properties inherent in the 'synthetics' but also
> readily admit that if regular and proper maintenance is performed and the
> vehicle is not used in weather extremes then it is probably not fiscally
> justified.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:zMyUf.9202$ji6.483197@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
>
>>I agree, I run only dino oil in my 93 XJ and ZJ and have almost 400,000
>>km's on the XJ, the drive train is still in great shape, the rest of the
>>vehicle is not..
>>
>>Snow...
>>
>>
>>"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
>>news:4422b59a$0$19435$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver .com...
>>
>>>Don't switch to Mobil 1, do change your oil every 6,000 miles, and save
>>>enough money for a six month trip to Spain, like I just got back from.
>>>Life
>>>is too short, to be so persnickety about oil type. Do you race? Do you
>>>motor in extreme conditions? No, you don't. Just use the API
>>>designation
>>>and proper weight from your Owner's Manual.
>>>
>>>Earle
>>>
>>>"John" <jstio@optonline.net> wrote in message
>>>news:z1wUf.58$Za5.25@fe11.lga...
>>>
>>>>Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>I am planning on switching over to Synthetic oil for all my vehicles
>>>>including my 02 TJ.
>>>>
>>>>I figured i would go with Mobil one, but then i found that mobil makes 4
>>>>types of synthetic.
>>>>
>>>>What is the difference, other then cost between: Mobil Clean 5000 and
>>>
>>>Mobil
>>>
>>>>1.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for the help.
>>>>
>>>>JOHN
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>*** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com ***
>>>*** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from
>>>http://www.SecureIX.com ***
>>
>>
>
>

 

A boat load especially if you are in the boat.
Coasty

"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:44234d9a$0$18319$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.c om...
> Heh, do you know how many molecules thick an oil film actually is?
>
> Earle
>
> "Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
> news:z_WdncfXTZmgrb7ZnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> In a way Earl that is true however synthetics actually are based from
>> petroleum. It is just that it is call synthetic because all the oil
>> molecules are the same size. This produces superior lubrication because
>> they are sized for the best possible oil film.
>> Coasty
>>
>>
>> "Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:4422d59f$0$20703$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.c om...
>> > Synthetics have their place, such as racing, extreme cold, or a pattern
> of
>> > short trips and not warming up the engine, that you just can't avoid.
> It
>> > is
>> > cheap enough to put a synthetic in the axles, if that is what you want
> to
>> > do. It is waste to put it in the engine, because it is going to be
>> > contaminated with blowby just as fast as petroleum.
>> >
>> > Earle
>> >
>> > "JD Adams" <JDAdams@Softcom.Net> wrote in message
>> > news:1143128626.100029.108600@g10g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Good choice. Most here think that synthetics are a waste of money.
>> >> I've also met people who think that using toilet paper only once is a
>> >> big waste too. I've even met one guy who washed out and reused old
>> >> disposable oil filters to save big money. To each their own.
>> >>
>> >> Stick with full PAO synthetic-based stocks. Blends and their 5000
>> >> product use petroleum stock. Expect the first few changes to be
>> >> extra-dirty; synthetics use a better detergent formula that will
>> >> quickly remove the sludge and varnish that the old oil left behind.
>> >>
>> >> Take a look at mobilone.com before deciding.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
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A boat load especially if you are in the boat.
Coasty

"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:44234d9a$0$18319$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.c om...
> Heh, do you know how many molecules thick an oil film actually is?
>
> Earle
>
> "Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
> news:z_WdncfXTZmgrb7ZnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> In a way Earl that is true however synthetics actually are based from
>> petroleum. It is just that it is call synthetic because all the oil
>> molecules are the same size. This produces superior lubrication because
>> they are sized for the best possible oil film.
>> Coasty
>>
>>
>> "Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:4422d59f$0$20703$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.c om...
>> > Synthetics have their place, such as racing, extreme cold, or a pattern
> of
>> > short trips and not warming up the engine, that you just can't avoid.
> It
>> > is
>> > cheap enough to put a synthetic in the axles, if that is what you want
> to
>> > do. It is waste to put it in the engine, because it is going to be
>> > contaminated with blowby just as fast as petroleum.
>> >
>> > Earle
>> >
>> > "JD Adams" <JDAdams@Softcom.Net> wrote in message
>> > news:1143128626.100029.108600@g10g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Good choice. Most here think that synthetics are a waste of money.
>> >> I've also met people who think that using toilet paper only once is a
>> >> big waste too. I've even met one guy who washed out and reused old
>> >> disposable oil filters to save big money. To each their own.
>> >>
>> >> Stick with full PAO synthetic-based stocks. Blends and their 5000
>> >> product use petroleum stock. Expect the first few changes to be
>> >> extra-dirty; synthetics use a better detergent formula that will
>> >> quickly remove the sludge and varnish that the old oil left behind.
>> >>
>> >> Take a look at mobilone.com before deciding.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
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A boat load especially if you are in the boat.
Coasty

"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:44234d9a$0$18319$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.c om...
> Heh, do you know how many molecules thick an oil film actually is?
>
> Earle
>
> "Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
> news:z_WdncfXTZmgrb7ZnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> In a way Earl that is true however synthetics actually are based from
>> petroleum. It is just that it is call synthetic because all the oil
>> molecules are the same size. This produces superior lubrication because
>> they are sized for the best possible oil film.
>> Coasty
>>
>>
>> "Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:4422d59f$0$20703$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.c om...
>> > Synthetics have their place, such as racing, extreme cold, or a pattern
> of
>> > short trips and not warming up the engine, that you just can't avoid.
> It
>> > is
>> > cheap enough to put a synthetic in the axles, if that is what you want
> to
>> > do. It is waste to put it in the engine, because it is going to be
>> > contaminated with blowby just as fast as petroleum.
>> >
>> > Earle
>> >
>> > "JD Adams" <JDAdams@Softcom.Net> wrote in message
>> > news:1143128626.100029.108600@g10g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Good choice. Most here think that synthetics are a waste of money.
>> >> I've also met people who think that using toilet paper only once is a
>> >> big waste too. I've even met one guy who washed out and reused old
>> >> disposable oil filters to save big money. To each their own.
>> >>
>> >> Stick with full PAO synthetic-based stocks. Blends and their 5000
>> >> product use petroleum stock. Expect the first few changes to be
>> >> extra-dirty; synthetics use a better detergent formula that will
>> >> quickly remove the sludge and varnish that the old oil left behind.
>> >>
>> >> Take a look at mobilone.com before deciding.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com ***
>> > *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from
>> > http://www.SecureIX.com ***
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