Re: Synthetic Oil Question
 

In a way Earl that is true however synthetics actually are based from
petroleum. It is just that it is call synthetic because all the oil
molecules are the same size. This produces superior lubrication because
they are sized for the best possible oil film.
Coasty


"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
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> Synthetics have their place, such as racing, extreme cold, or a pattern of
> short trips and not warming up the engine, that you just can't avoid. It
> is
> cheap enough to put a synthetic in the axles, if that is what you want to
> do. It is waste to put it in the engine, because it is going to be
> contaminated with blowby just as fast as petroleum.
>
> Earle
>
> "JD Adams" <JDAdams@Softcom.Net> wrote in message
> news:1143128626.100029.108600@g10g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>
>> Good choice. Most here think that synthetics are a waste of money.
>> I've also met people who think that using toilet paper only once is a
>> big waste too. I've even met one guy who washed out and reused old
>> disposable oil filters to save big money. To each their own.
>>
>> Stick with full PAO synthetic-based stocks. Blends and their 5000
>> product use petroleum stock. Expect the first few changes to be
>> extra-dirty; synthetics use a better detergent formula that will
>> quickly remove the sludge and varnish that the old oil left behind.
>>
>> Take a look at mobilone.com before deciding.
>>
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Re: Synthetic Oil Question
 

In a way Earl that is true however synthetics actually are based from
petroleum. It is just that it is call synthetic because all the oil
molecules are the same size. This produces superior lubrication because
they are sized for the best possible oil film.
Coasty


"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:4422d59f$0$20703$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.c om...
> Synthetics have their place, such as racing, extreme cold, or a pattern of
> short trips and not warming up the engine, that you just can't avoid. It
> is
> cheap enough to put a synthetic in the axles, if that is what you want to
> do. It is waste to put it in the engine, because it is going to be
> contaminated with blowby just as fast as petroleum.
>
> Earle
>
> "JD Adams" <JDAdams@Softcom.Net> wrote in message
> news:1143128626.100029.108600@g10g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>
>> Good choice. Most here think that synthetics are a waste of money.
>> I've also met people who think that using toilet paper only once is a
>> big waste too. I've even met one guy who washed out and reused old
>> disposable oil filters to save big money. To each their own.
>>
>> Stick with full PAO synthetic-based stocks. Blends and their 5000
>> product use petroleum stock. Expect the first few changes to be
>> extra-dirty; synthetics use a better detergent formula that will
>> quickly remove the sludge and varnish that the old oil left behind.
>>
>> Take a look at mobilone.com before deciding.
>>
>
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Re: Synthetic Oil Question
 

In a way Earl that is true however synthetics actually are based from
petroleum. It is just that it is call synthetic because all the oil
molecules are the same size. This produces superior lubrication because
they are sized for the best possible oil film.
Coasty


"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:4422d59f$0$20703$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.c om...
> Synthetics have their place, such as racing, extreme cold, or a pattern of
> short trips and not warming up the engine, that you just can't avoid. It
> is
> cheap enough to put a synthetic in the axles, if that is what you want to
> do. It is waste to put it in the engine, because it is going to be
> contaminated with blowby just as fast as petroleum.
>
> Earle
>
> "JD Adams" <JDAdams@Softcom.Net> wrote in message
> news:1143128626.100029.108600@g10g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>
>> Good choice. Most here think that synthetics are a waste of money.
>> I've also met people who think that using toilet paper only once is a
>> big waste too. I've even met one guy who washed out and reused old
>> disposable oil filters to save big money. To each their own.
>>
>> Stick with full PAO synthetic-based stocks. Blends and their 5000
>> product use petroleum stock. Expect the first few changes to be
>> extra-dirty; synthetics use a better detergent formula that will
>> quickly remove the sludge and varnish that the old oil left behind.
>>
>> Take a look at mobilone.com before deciding.
>>
>
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Re: Synthetic Oil Question
 

Heh, do you know how many molecules thick an oil film actually is?

Earle

"Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
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> In a way Earl that is true however synthetics actually are based from
> petroleum. It is just that it is call synthetic because all the oil
> molecules are the same size. This produces superior lubrication because
> they are sized for the best possible oil film.
> Coasty
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:4422d59f$0$20703$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.c om...
> > Synthetics have their place, such as racing, extreme cold, or a pattern
of
> > short trips and not warming up the engine, that you just can't avoid.
It
> > is
> > cheap enough to put a synthetic in the axles, if that is what you want
to
> > do. It is waste to put it in the engine, because it is going to be
> > contaminated with blowby just as fast as petroleum.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "JD Adams" <JDAdams@Softcom.Net> wrote in message
> > news:1143128626.100029.108600@g10g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> >>
> >>
> >> Good choice. Most here think that synthetics are a waste of money.
> >> I've also met people who think that using toilet paper only once is a
> >> big waste too. I've even met one guy who washed out and reused old
> >> disposable oil filters to save big money. To each their own.
> >>
> >> Stick with full PAO synthetic-based stocks. Blends and their 5000
> >> product use petroleum stock. Expect the first few changes to be
> >> extra-dirty; synthetics use a better detergent formula that will
> >> quickly remove the sludge and varnish that the old oil left behind.
> >>
> >> Take a look at mobilone.com before deciding.
> >>
> >
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Re: Synthetic Oil Question
 

Heh, do you know how many molecules thick an oil film actually is?

Earle

"Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
news:z_WdncfXTZmgrb7ZnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> In a way Earl that is true however synthetics actually are based from
> petroleum. It is just that it is call synthetic because all the oil
> molecules are the same size. This produces superior lubrication because
> they are sized for the best possible oil film.
> Coasty
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:4422d59f$0$20703$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.c om...
> > Synthetics have their place, such as racing, extreme cold, or a pattern
of
> > short trips and not warming up the engine, that you just can't avoid.
It
> > is
> > cheap enough to put a synthetic in the axles, if that is what you want
to
> > do. It is waste to put it in the engine, because it is going to be
> > contaminated with blowby just as fast as petroleum.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "JD Adams" <JDAdams@Softcom.Net> wrote in message
> > news:1143128626.100029.108600@g10g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> >>
> >>
> >> Good choice. Most here think that synthetics are a waste of money.
> >> I've also met people who think that using toilet paper only once is a
> >> big waste too. I've even met one guy who washed out and reused old
> >> disposable oil filters to save big money. To each their own.
> >>
> >> Stick with full PAO synthetic-based stocks. Blends and their 5000
> >> product use petroleum stock. Expect the first few changes to be
> >> extra-dirty; synthetics use a better detergent formula that will
> >> quickly remove the sludge and varnish that the old oil left behind.
> >>
> >> Take a look at mobilone.com before deciding.
> >>
> >
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Re: Synthetic Oil Question
 

Heh, do you know how many molecules thick an oil film actually is?

Earle

"Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
news:z_WdncfXTZmgrb7ZnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> In a way Earl that is true however synthetics actually are based from
> petroleum. It is just that it is call synthetic because all the oil
> molecules are the same size. This produces superior lubrication because
> they are sized for the best possible oil film.
> Coasty
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:4422d59f$0$20703$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.c om...
> > Synthetics have their place, such as racing, extreme cold, or a pattern
of
> > short trips and not warming up the engine, that you just can't avoid.
It
> > is
> > cheap enough to put a synthetic in the axles, if that is what you want
to
> > do. It is waste to put it in the engine, because it is going to be
> > contaminated with blowby just as fast as petroleum.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "JD Adams" <JDAdams@Softcom.Net> wrote in message
> > news:1143128626.100029.108600@g10g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> >>
> >>
> >> Good choice. Most here think that synthetics are a waste of money.
> >> I've also met people who think that using toilet paper only once is a
> >> big waste too. I've even met one guy who washed out and reused old
> >> disposable oil filters to save big money. To each their own.
> >>
> >> Stick with full PAO synthetic-based stocks. Blends and their 5000
> >> product use petroleum stock. Expect the first few changes to be
> >> extra-dirty; synthetics use a better detergent formula that will
> >> quickly remove the sludge and varnish that the old oil left behind.
> >>
> >> Take a look at mobilone.com before deciding.
> >>
> >
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Re: Synthetic Oil Question
 

I think I remember reading somewhere that you can take a tablespoon of oil
and drop it in a lake and it will ------ to over 1 acre. That depends on
the wind over the lake too. On a calm day, over an acre is possible.


Jim Smith


"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:44234d9a$0$18319$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.c om...
> Heh, do you know how many molecules thick an oil film actually is?
>
> Earle
>
> "Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
> news:z_WdncfXTZmgrb7ZnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> In a way Earl that is true however synthetics actually are based from
>> petroleum. It is just that it is call synthetic because all the oil
>> molecules are the same size. This produces superior lubrication because
>> they are sized for the best possible oil film.
>> Coasty
>>
>>
>> "Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:4422d59f$0$20703$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.c om...
>> > Synthetics have their place, such as racing, extreme cold, or a pattern
> of
>> > short trips and not warming up the engine, that you just can't avoid.
> It
>> > is
>> > cheap enough to put a synthetic in the axles, if that is what you want
> to
>> > do. It is waste to put it in the engine, because it is going to be
>> > contaminated with blowby just as fast as petroleum.
>> >
>> > Earle
>> >
>> > "JD Adams" <JDAdams@Softcom.Net> wrote in message
>> > news:1143128626.100029.108600@g10g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Good choice. Most here think that synthetics are a waste of money.
>> >> I've also met people who think that using toilet paper only once is a
>> >> big waste too. I've even met one guy who washed out and reused old
>> >> disposable oil filters to save big money. To each their own.
>> >>
>> >> Stick with full PAO synthetic-based stocks. Blends and their 5000
>> >> product use petroleum stock. Expect the first few changes to be
>> >> extra-dirty; synthetics use a better detergent formula that will
>> >> quickly remove the sludge and varnish that the old oil left behind.
>> >>
>> >> Take a look at mobilone.com before deciding.
>> >>
>> >
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Re: Synthetic Oil Question
 

I think I remember reading somewhere that you can take a tablespoon of oil
and drop it in a lake and it will ------ to over 1 acre. That depends on
the wind over the lake too. On a calm day, over an acre is possible.


Jim Smith


"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:44234d9a$0$18319$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.c om...
> Heh, do you know how many molecules thick an oil film actually is?
>
> Earle
>
> "Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
> news:z_WdncfXTZmgrb7ZnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> In a way Earl that is true however synthetics actually are based from
>> petroleum. It is just that it is call synthetic because all the oil
>> molecules are the same size. This produces superior lubrication because
>> they are sized for the best possible oil film.
>> Coasty
>>
>>
>> "Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:4422d59f$0$20703$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.c om...
>> > Synthetics have their place, such as racing, extreme cold, or a pattern
> of
>> > short trips and not warming up the engine, that you just can't avoid.
> It
>> > is
>> > cheap enough to put a synthetic in the axles, if that is what you want
> to
>> > do. It is waste to put it in the engine, because it is going to be
>> > contaminated with blowby just as fast as petroleum.
>> >
>> > Earle
>> >
>> > "JD Adams" <JDAdams@Softcom.Net> wrote in message
>> > news:1143128626.100029.108600@g10g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Good choice. Most here think that synthetics are a waste of money.
>> >> I've also met people who think that using toilet paper only once is a
>> >> big waste too. I've even met one guy who washed out and reused old
>> >> disposable oil filters to save big money. To each their own.
>> >>
>> >> Stick with full PAO synthetic-based stocks. Blends and their 5000
>> >> product use petroleum stock. Expect the first few changes to be
>> >> extra-dirty; synthetics use a better detergent formula that will
>> >> quickly remove the sludge and varnish that the old oil left behind.
>> >>
>> >> Take a look at mobilone.com before deciding.
>> >>
>> >
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Re: Synthetic Oil Question
 

I think I remember reading somewhere that you can take a tablespoon of oil
and drop it in a lake and it will ------ to over 1 acre. That depends on
the wind over the lake too. On a calm day, over an acre is possible.


Jim Smith


"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:44234d9a$0$18319$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.c om...
> Heh, do you know how many molecules thick an oil film actually is?
>
> Earle
>
> "Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
> news:z_WdncfXTZmgrb7ZnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> In a way Earl that is true however synthetics actually are based from
>> petroleum. It is just that it is call synthetic because all the oil
>> molecules are the same size. This produces superior lubrication because
>> they are sized for the best possible oil film.
>> Coasty
>>
>>
>> "Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:4422d59f$0$20703$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.c om...
>> > Synthetics have their place, such as racing, extreme cold, or a pattern
> of
>> > short trips and not warming up the engine, that you just can't avoid.
> It
>> > is
>> > cheap enough to put a synthetic in the axles, if that is what you want
> to
>> > do. It is waste to put it in the engine, because it is going to be
>> > contaminated with blowby just as fast as petroleum.
>> >
>> > Earle
>> >
>> > "JD Adams" <JDAdams@Softcom.Net> wrote in message
>> > news:1143128626.100029.108600@g10g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Good choice. Most here think that synthetics are a waste of money.
>> >> I've also met people who think that using toilet paper only once is a
>> >> big waste too. I've even met one guy who washed out and reused old
>> >> disposable oil filters to save big money. To each their own.
>> >>
>> >> Stick with full PAO synthetic-based stocks. Blends and their 5000
>> >> product use petroleum stock. Expect the first few changes to be
>> >> extra-dirty; synthetics use a better detergent formula that will
>> >> quickly remove the sludge and varnish that the old oil left behind.
>> >>
>> >> Take a look at mobilone.com before deciding.
>> >>
>> >
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Re: Synthetic Oil Question
 

I've had better luck in really cold weather with the synth. The
starting viscosity seems to be better than the W value on the can.
Biggest benefit i've noted is heavy driving in triple digit heat, where
they tend to out last the traditionals.

I also get just about a mile a gallon better mileage at cruising speed
with a tad less useage, but only really notice this on trips of a couple
thousand miles.


billy ray proclaimed:

> Perhaps you should have regularly doused your XJ and ZJ with dino juice.
>
> I believe in the superior properties inherent in the 'synthetics' but also
> readily admit that if regular and proper maintenance is performed and the
> vehicle is not used in weather extremes then it is probably not fiscally
> justified.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:zMyUf.9202$ji6.483197@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
>
>>I agree, I run only dino oil in my 93 XJ and ZJ and have almost 400,000
>>km's on the XJ, the drive train is still in great shape, the rest of the
>>vehicle is not..
>>
>>Snow...
>>
>>
>>"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
>>news:4422b59a$0$19435$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver .com...
>>
>>>Don't switch to Mobil 1, do change your oil every 6,000 miles, and save
>>>enough money for a six month trip to Spain, like I just got back from.
>>>Life
>>>is too short, to be so persnickety about oil type. Do you race? Do you
>>>motor in extreme conditions? No, you don't. Just use the API
>>>designation
>>>and proper weight from your Owner's Manual.
>>>
>>>Earle
>>>
>>>"John" <jstio@optonline.net> wrote in message
>>>news:z1wUf.58$Za5.25@fe11.lga...
>>>
>>>>Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>I am planning on switching over to Synthetic oil for all my vehicles
>>>>including my 02 TJ.
>>>>
>>>>I figured i would go with Mobil one, but then i found that mobil makes 4
>>>>types of synthetic.
>>>>
>>>>What is the difference, other then cost between: Mobil Clean 5000 and
>>>
>>>Mobil
>>>
>>>>1.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for the help.
>>>>
>>>>JOHN
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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