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Re: Swapping D44 into ABS jeep
"nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1191517650.347250.267690@w3g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com... > On Oct 4, 12:03 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <cr...@verizon.net> wrote: >> No, the system would not work. >> >> Well, the BRAKE system would work fine, but the anti-lock feature would >> not >> work. To retain the ABS, you would need to modify the axles so that you >> could put a tone ring back in. >> >> Depending upon where you live, this -- putting the ABS system back >> together -- is a complete waste of time and money. The D44 is a good >> upgrade, but I'm not convinced that ABS is a necessary system. If you >> lost >> the ABS, your life would not change very much. >> >> Be sure you gear the D44 to match your D30 on the front axle. >> >> "nrs" <neale...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> >> news:1191516015.245039.226680@r29g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com... >> >> >> >> >> >> > What would be the complications of swapping a non ABS D44 into an ABS >> > jeep? Would the system still work with the rear sensors disconnected? >> >> > Thanks- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > I don't care about having ABS. Can it be disabled or removed easily? > Thanks > The system will disable itself. That is, the brakes will work perfectly fine, just not with ABS. If the ABS light is lit on the instrument cluster, then you might have to pull a fuse or relay, but there is nothing that needs to be done to the plumbing. You could go Top Shelf and remove the ABS valve body and whatever compressor thingy might be there, but the only problem with leaving the stuff in place is hauling around the weight. They make D44s that can accomodate the ABS system ... But, your original question was, what would be the complications? There would be no complications that arise from the brake system. The brakes themselves -- size, shape, that sort of thing -- might be a complication of sorts, but once you manage to get the brake pipe to connect to the brake hoses on the axle, the rest of the stuff will already be in place. The ABS works by sensors detecting that a tire has stopped rolling, and brake pressure to that tire is released so it can roll again. If there is no sensor, then the tire will simply stop rolling if the brakes are applied heavily. No big deal. The ABS system might look for the sensors, and when they are not found it may turn the light on to warn you that ABS is not working. The complication is finding the fuse or relay that turns the light off. |
Re: Swapping D44 into ABS jeep
"nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1191517650.347250.267690@w3g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com... > On Oct 4, 12:03 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <cr...@verizon.net> wrote: >> No, the system would not work. >> >> Well, the BRAKE system would work fine, but the anti-lock feature would >> not >> work. To retain the ABS, you would need to modify the axles so that you >> could put a tone ring back in. >> >> Depending upon where you live, this -- putting the ABS system back >> together -- is a complete waste of time and money. The D44 is a good >> upgrade, but I'm not convinced that ABS is a necessary system. If you >> lost >> the ABS, your life would not change very much. >> >> Be sure you gear the D44 to match your D30 on the front axle. >> >> "nrs" <neale...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> >> news:1191516015.245039.226680@r29g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com... >> >> >> >> >> >> > What would be the complications of swapping a non ABS D44 into an ABS >> > jeep? Would the system still work with the rear sensors disconnected? >> >> > Thanks- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > I don't care about having ABS. Can it be disabled or removed easily? > Thanks > The system will disable itself. That is, the brakes will work perfectly fine, just not with ABS. If the ABS light is lit on the instrument cluster, then you might have to pull a fuse or relay, but there is nothing that needs to be done to the plumbing. You could go Top Shelf and remove the ABS valve body and whatever compressor thingy might be there, but the only problem with leaving the stuff in place is hauling around the weight. They make D44s that can accomodate the ABS system ... But, your original question was, what would be the complications? There would be no complications that arise from the brake system. The brakes themselves -- size, shape, that sort of thing -- might be a complication of sorts, but once you manage to get the brake pipe to connect to the brake hoses on the axle, the rest of the stuff will already be in place. The ABS works by sensors detecting that a tire has stopped rolling, and brake pressure to that tire is released so it can roll again. If there is no sensor, then the tire will simply stop rolling if the brakes are applied heavily. No big deal. The ABS system might look for the sensors, and when they are not found it may turn the light on to warn you that ABS is not working. The complication is finding the fuse or relay that turns the light off. |
Re: Swapping D44 into ABS jeep
"nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1191517650.347250.267690@w3g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com... > On Oct 4, 12:03 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <cr...@verizon.net> wrote: >> No, the system would not work. >> >> Well, the BRAKE system would work fine, but the anti-lock feature would >> not >> work. To retain the ABS, you would need to modify the axles so that you >> could put a tone ring back in. >> >> Depending upon where you live, this -- putting the ABS system back >> together -- is a complete waste of time and money. The D44 is a good >> upgrade, but I'm not convinced that ABS is a necessary system. If you >> lost >> the ABS, your life would not change very much. >> >> Be sure you gear the D44 to match your D30 on the front axle. >> >> "nrs" <neale...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> >> news:1191516015.245039.226680@r29g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com... >> >> >> >> >> >> > What would be the complications of swapping a non ABS D44 into an ABS >> > jeep? Would the system still work with the rear sensors disconnected? >> >> > Thanks- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > I don't care about having ABS. Can it be disabled or removed easily? > Thanks > The system will disable itself. That is, the brakes will work perfectly fine, just not with ABS. If the ABS light is lit on the instrument cluster, then you might have to pull a fuse or relay, but there is nothing that needs to be done to the plumbing. You could go Top Shelf and remove the ABS valve body and whatever compressor thingy might be there, but the only problem with leaving the stuff in place is hauling around the weight. They make D44s that can accomodate the ABS system ... But, your original question was, what would be the complications? There would be no complications that arise from the brake system. The brakes themselves -- size, shape, that sort of thing -- might be a complication of sorts, but once you manage to get the brake pipe to connect to the brake hoses on the axle, the rest of the stuff will already be in place. The ABS works by sensors detecting that a tire has stopped rolling, and brake pressure to that tire is released so it can roll again. If there is no sensor, then the tire will simply stop rolling if the brakes are applied heavily. No big deal. The ABS system might look for the sensors, and when they are not found it may turn the light on to warn you that ABS is not working. The complication is finding the fuse or relay that turns the light off. |
Re: Swapping D44 into ABS jeep
On Oct 4, 12:19 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <cr...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "nrs" <neale...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:1191517650.347250.267690@w3g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com... > > > > > > > On Oct 4, 12:03 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <cr...@verizon.net> wrote: > >> No, the system would not work. > > >> Well, the BRAKE system would work fine, but the anti-lock feature would > >> not > >> work. To retain the ABS, you would need to modify the axles so that you > >> could put a tone ring back in. > > >> Depending upon where you live, this -- putting the ABS system back > >> together -- is a complete waste of time and money. The D44 is a good > >> upgrade, but I'm not convinced that ABS is a necessary system. If you > >> lost > >> the ABS, your life would not change very much. > > >> Be sure you gear the D44 to match your D30 on the front axle. > > >> "nrs" <neale...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > >>news:1191516015.245039.226680@r29g2000hsg.google groups.com... > > >> > What would be the complications of swapping a non ABS D44 into an ABS > >> > jeep? Would the system still work with the rear sensors disconnected? > > >> > Thanks- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > I don't care about having ABS. Can it be disabled or removed easily? > > Thanks > > The system will disable itself. That is, the brakes will work perfectly > fine, just not with ABS. If the ABS light is lit on the instrument cluster, > then you might have to pull a fuse or relay, but there is nothing that needs > to be done to the plumbing. You could go Top Shelf and remove the ABS valve > body and whatever compressor thingy might be there, but the only problem > with leaving the stuff in place is hauling around the weight. > > They make D44s that can accomodate the ABS system ... > > But, your original question was, what would be the complications? There > would be no complications that arise from the brake system. The brakes > themselves -- size, shape, that sort of thing -- might be a complication of > sorts, but once you manage to get the brake pipe to connect to the brake > hoses on the axle, the rest of the stuff will already be in place. > > The ABS works by sensors detecting that a tire has stopped rolling, and > brake pressure to that tire is released so it can roll again. If there is no > sensor, then the tire will simply stop rolling if the brakes are applied > heavily. No big deal. > > The ABS system might look for the sensors, and when they are not found it > may turn the light on to warn you that ABS is not working. The complication > is finding the fuse or relay that turns the light off.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Great! Sounds like it won't be much of a problem. Thanks a lot. |
Re: Swapping D44 into ABS jeep
On Oct 4, 12:19 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <cr...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "nrs" <neale...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:1191517650.347250.267690@w3g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com... > > > > > > > On Oct 4, 12:03 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <cr...@verizon.net> wrote: > >> No, the system would not work. > > >> Well, the BRAKE system would work fine, but the anti-lock feature would > >> not > >> work. To retain the ABS, you would need to modify the axles so that you > >> could put a tone ring back in. > > >> Depending upon where you live, this -- putting the ABS system back > >> together -- is a complete waste of time and money. The D44 is a good > >> upgrade, but I'm not convinced that ABS is a necessary system. If you > >> lost > >> the ABS, your life would not change very much. > > >> Be sure you gear the D44 to match your D30 on the front axle. > > >> "nrs" <neale...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > >>news:1191516015.245039.226680@r29g2000hsg.google groups.com... > > >> > What would be the complications of swapping a non ABS D44 into an ABS > >> > jeep? Would the system still work with the rear sensors disconnected? > > >> > Thanks- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > I don't care about having ABS. Can it be disabled or removed easily? > > Thanks > > The system will disable itself. That is, the brakes will work perfectly > fine, just not with ABS. If the ABS light is lit on the instrument cluster, > then you might have to pull a fuse or relay, but there is nothing that needs > to be done to the plumbing. You could go Top Shelf and remove the ABS valve > body and whatever compressor thingy might be there, but the only problem > with leaving the stuff in place is hauling around the weight. > > They make D44s that can accomodate the ABS system ... > > But, your original question was, what would be the complications? There > would be no complications that arise from the brake system. The brakes > themselves -- size, shape, that sort of thing -- might be a complication of > sorts, but once you manage to get the brake pipe to connect to the brake > hoses on the axle, the rest of the stuff will already be in place. > > The ABS works by sensors detecting that a tire has stopped rolling, and > brake pressure to that tire is released so it can roll again. If there is no > sensor, then the tire will simply stop rolling if the brakes are applied > heavily. No big deal. > > The ABS system might look for the sensors, and when they are not found it > may turn the light on to warn you that ABS is not working. The complication > is finding the fuse or relay that turns the light off.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Great! Sounds like it won't be much of a problem. Thanks a lot. |
Re: Swapping D44 into ABS jeep
On Oct 4, 12:19 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <cr...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "nrs" <neale...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:1191517650.347250.267690@w3g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com... > > > > > > > On Oct 4, 12:03 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <cr...@verizon.net> wrote: > >> No, the system would not work. > > >> Well, the BRAKE system would work fine, but the anti-lock feature would > >> not > >> work. To retain the ABS, you would need to modify the axles so that you > >> could put a tone ring back in. > > >> Depending upon where you live, this -- putting the ABS system back > >> together -- is a complete waste of time and money. The D44 is a good > >> upgrade, but I'm not convinced that ABS is a necessary system. If you > >> lost > >> the ABS, your life would not change very much. > > >> Be sure you gear the D44 to match your D30 on the front axle. > > >> "nrs" <neale...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > >>news:1191516015.245039.226680@r29g2000hsg.google groups.com... > > >> > What would be the complications of swapping a non ABS D44 into an ABS > >> > jeep? Would the system still work with the rear sensors disconnected? > > >> > Thanks- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > I don't care about having ABS. Can it be disabled or removed easily? > > Thanks > > The system will disable itself. That is, the brakes will work perfectly > fine, just not with ABS. If the ABS light is lit on the instrument cluster, > then you might have to pull a fuse or relay, but there is nothing that needs > to be done to the plumbing. You could go Top Shelf and remove the ABS valve > body and whatever compressor thingy might be there, but the only problem > with leaving the stuff in place is hauling around the weight. > > They make D44s that can accomodate the ABS system ... > > But, your original question was, what would be the complications? There > would be no complications that arise from the brake system. The brakes > themselves -- size, shape, that sort of thing -- might be a complication of > sorts, but once you manage to get the brake pipe to connect to the brake > hoses on the axle, the rest of the stuff will already be in place. > > The ABS works by sensors detecting that a tire has stopped rolling, and > brake pressure to that tire is released so it can roll again. If there is no > sensor, then the tire will simply stop rolling if the brakes are applied > heavily. No big deal. > > The ABS system might look for the sensors, and when they are not found it > may turn the light on to warn you that ABS is not working. The complication > is finding the fuse or relay that turns the light off.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Great! Sounds like it won't be much of a problem. Thanks a lot. |
Re: Swapping D44 into ABS jeep
On Oct 4, 12:19 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <cr...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "nrs" <neale...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:1191517650.347250.267690@w3g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com... > > > > > > > On Oct 4, 12:03 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <cr...@verizon.net> wrote: > >> No, the system would not work. > > >> Well, the BRAKE system would work fine, but the anti-lock feature would > >> not > >> work. To retain the ABS, you would need to modify the axles so that you > >> could put a tone ring back in. > > >> Depending upon where you live, this -- putting the ABS system back > >> together -- is a complete waste of time and money. The D44 is a good > >> upgrade, but I'm not convinced that ABS is a necessary system. If you > >> lost > >> the ABS, your life would not change very much. > > >> Be sure you gear the D44 to match your D30 on the front axle. > > >> "nrs" <neale...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > >>news:1191516015.245039.226680@r29g2000hsg.google groups.com... > > >> > What would be the complications of swapping a non ABS D44 into an ABS > >> > jeep? Would the system still work with the rear sensors disconnected? > > >> > Thanks- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > I don't care about having ABS. Can it be disabled or removed easily? > > Thanks > > The system will disable itself. That is, the brakes will work perfectly > fine, just not with ABS. If the ABS light is lit on the instrument cluster, > then you might have to pull a fuse or relay, but there is nothing that needs > to be done to the plumbing. You could go Top Shelf and remove the ABS valve > body and whatever compressor thingy might be there, but the only problem > with leaving the stuff in place is hauling around the weight. > > They make D44s that can accomodate the ABS system ... > > But, your original question was, what would be the complications? There > would be no complications that arise from the brake system. The brakes > themselves -- size, shape, that sort of thing -- might be a complication of > sorts, but once you manage to get the brake pipe to connect to the brake > hoses on the axle, the rest of the stuff will already be in place. > > The ABS works by sensors detecting that a tire has stopped rolling, and > brake pressure to that tire is released so it can roll again. If there is no > sensor, then the tire will simply stop rolling if the brakes are applied > heavily. No big deal. > > The ABS system might look for the sensors, and when they are not found it > may turn the light on to warn you that ABS is not working. The complication > is finding the fuse or relay that turns the light off.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Great! Sounds like it won't be much of a problem. Thanks a lot. |
Re: Swapping D44 into ABS jeep
I really doubt a fifteen year old car's Anti-lock Braking System would
still be working, not unless it was regularly flushed as the owner's manual calls for: http://www.----------.com/WJLubeSchedule.jpg God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- "nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1191516015.245039.226680@r29g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com... > > What would be the complications of swapping a non ABS D44 into an ABS > jeep? Would the system still work with the rear sensors disconnected? > > Thanks > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Swapping D44 into ABS jeep
I really doubt a fifteen year old car's Anti-lock Braking System would
still be working, not unless it was regularly flushed as the owner's manual calls for: http://www.----------.com/WJLubeSchedule.jpg God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- "nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1191516015.245039.226680@r29g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com... > > What would be the complications of swapping a non ABS D44 into an ABS > jeep? Would the system still work with the rear sensors disconnected? > > Thanks > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Swapping D44 into ABS jeep
I really doubt a fifteen year old car's Anti-lock Braking System would
still be working, not unless it was regularly flushed as the owner's manual calls for: http://www.----------.com/WJLubeSchedule.jpg God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- "nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1191516015.245039.226680@r29g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com... > > What would be the complications of swapping a non ABS D44 into an ABS > jeep? Would the system still work with the rear sensors disconnected? > > Thanks > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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