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Eric Bailey 07-05-2003 05:43 PM

Stuck door!
 
I went out to take my full doors off today, and the passenger one won't come
off! Yes, I did take off both nuts.... The driver's door came off with a
bit of grunting (man those things are heavier than I expected), but the
passenger's side won't budge. Looks like I can lift it about 1/8" and it
stops. I pulled on it hard enough to rock my TJ as far as I could lift it,
and nothing.

Anyone have any tips on this? It's insanely hot out right now and I figure
the more wind that hits me, the better!

Eric
99 TJ SE



Mike Romain 07-05-2003 07:14 PM

Re: Stuck door!
 
Try some oil on the hinges and swing the door open and closed while
lifting.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Eric Bailey wrote:
>
> I went out to take my full doors off today, and the passenger one won't come
> off! Yes, I did take off both nuts.... The driver's door came off with a
> bit of grunting (man those things are heavier than I expected), but the
> passenger's side won't budge. Looks like I can lift it about 1/8" and it
> stops. I pulled on it hard enough to rock my TJ as far as I could lift it,
> and nothing.
>
> Anyone have any tips on this? It's insanely hot out right now and I figure
> the more wind that hits me, the better!
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE


Earle Horton 07-05-2003 08:22 PM

Re: Stuck door!
 
And next time, follow the recommendation in the owner's manual about
lubricating the hinges with engine oil. ;o)

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F075BED.D51489F5@sympatico.ca...
> Try some oil on the hinges and swing the door open and closed while
> lifting.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Eric Bailey wrote:
> >
> > I went out to take my full doors off today, and the passenger one won't

come
> > off! Yes, I did take off both nuts.... The driver's door came off with

a
> > bit of grunting (man those things are heavier than I expected), but the
> > passenger's side won't budge. Looks like I can lift it about 1/8" and

it
> > stops. I pulled on it hard enough to rock my TJ as far as I could lift

it,
> > and nothing.
> >
> > Anyone have any tips on this? It's insanely hot out right now and I

figure
> > the more wind that hits me, the better!
> >
> > Eric
> > 99 TJ SE




Edward Rock 07-05-2003 11:40 PM

Re: Stuck door!
 
If that doesn't work, simply get out a dremel and grind off the hinges! You
don't need no stinking doors!!
Very effective!! ;-)
Ed
'79 CJ5 34's locked and rocked


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F075BED.D51489F5@sympatico.ca...
> Try some oil on the hinges and swing the door open and closed while
> lifting.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Eric Bailey wrote:
> >
> > I went out to take my full doors off today, and the passenger one won't

come
> > off! Yes, I did take off both nuts.... The driver's door came off with

a
> > bit of grunting (man those things are heavier than I expected), but the
> > passenger's side won't budge. Looks like I can lift it about 1/8" and

it
> > stops. I pulled on it hard enough to rock my TJ as far as I could lift

it,
> > and nothing.
> >
> > Anyone have any tips on this? It's insanely hot out right now and I

figure
> > the more wind that hits me, the better!
> >
> > Eric
> > 99 TJ SE

>




Christopher Reynolds 07-05-2003 11:52 PM

Re: Stuck door!
 
For those first time removed (or first time after a long winter) doors, it
is much easier and with less strain if you get a scrap piece of 2X4, stand
it on end on top of a floor jack and slide the whole thing under the door.
Line it all up and jack. The top pin is longer than the bottom pin so once
the bottom pin is free you have about 1/4 inch left in the top. (Not only is
this so that the nut can attach to the pin but assists lining the pins up
when putting the doors back on by yourself). Make sure that you 1.) have the
door open about 1/2 of it's swing to make sure it clears the windshield
frame and 2.) have the "lifting contraption" positioned near the front of
the door so that the lifting force is sliding the pins out and not bending
the door.

One final thought, it is Fed regulation that there be a mirror on the
drivers side. You can probably get away without it but those cops can be
MF's when they want to.

"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
news:be7pr0$270q2$1@ID-147790.news.dfncis.de...
> And next time, follow the recommendation in the owner's manual about
> lubricating the hinges with engine oil. ;o)
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F075BED.D51489F5@sympatico.ca...
> > Try some oil on the hinges and swing the door open and closed while
> > lifting.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Eric Bailey wrote:
> > >
> > > I went out to take my full doors off today, and the passenger one

won't
> come
> > > off! Yes, I did take off both nuts.... The driver's door came off

with
> a
> > > bit of grunting (man those things are heavier than I expected), but

the
> > > passenger's side won't budge. Looks like I can lift it about 1/8" and

> it
> > > stops. I pulled on it hard enough to rock my TJ as far as I could

lift
> it,
> > > and nothing.
> > >
> > > Anyone have any tips on this? It's insanely hot out right now and I

> figure
> > > the more wind that hits me, the better!
> > >
> > > Eric
> > > 99 TJ SE

>
>




Mike Romain 07-06-2003 11:22 AM

Re: Stuck door!
 
If you need a mirror, a Honda motorcycle mirror fits perfect into the
hinge hole with the door off. Cheap, easy and it doesn't vibrate.

Mike


Christopher Reynolds wrote:
>
> For those first time removed (or first time after a long winter) doors, it
> is much easier and with less strain if you get a scrap piece of 2X4, stand
> it on end on top of a floor jack and slide the whole thing under the door.
> Line it all up and jack. The top pin is longer than the bottom pin so once
> the bottom pin is free you have about 1/4 inch left in the top. (Not only is
> this so that the nut can attach to the pin but assists lining the pins up
> when putting the doors back on by yourself). Make sure that you 1.) have the
> door open about 1/2 of it's swing to make sure it clears the windshield
> frame and 2.) have the "lifting contraption" positioned near the front of
> the door so that the lifting force is sliding the pins out and not bending
> the door.
>
> One final thought, it is Fed regulation that there be a mirror on the
> drivers side. You can probably get away without it but those cops can be
> MF's when they want to.
>
> "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
> news:be7pr0$270q2$1@ID-147790.news.dfncis.de...
> > And next time, follow the recommendation in the owner's manual about
> > lubricating the hinges with engine oil. ;o)
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3F075BED.D51489F5@sympatico.ca...
> > > Try some oil on the hinges and swing the door open and closed while
> > > lifting.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Eric Bailey wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I went out to take my full doors off today, and the passenger one

> won't
> > come
> > > > off! Yes, I did take off both nuts.... The driver's door came off

> with
> > a
> > > > bit of grunting (man those things are heavier than I expected), but

> the
> > > > passenger's side won't budge. Looks like I can lift it about 1/8" and

> > it
> > > > stops. I pulled on it hard enough to rock my TJ as far as I could

> lift
> > it,
> > > > and nothing.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone have any tips on this? It's insanely hot out right now and I

> > figure
> > > > the more wind that hits me, the better!
> > > >
> > > > Eric
> > > > 99 TJ SE

> >
> >


Chad Fraker 07-06-2003 12:02 PM

Re: Stuck door!
 
Which model Honda mirror. All of the cycle shops around here (milwaukee) that
they don't have anything to fit.

Mike Romain wrote:

> If you need a mirror, a Honda motorcycle mirror fits perfect into the
> hinge hole with the door off. Cheap, easy and it doesn't vibrate.
>
> Mike
>
> Christopher Reynolds wrote:
> >
> > For those first time removed (or first time after a long winter) doors, it
> > is much easier and with less strain if you get a scrap piece of 2X4, stand
> > it on end on top of a floor jack and slide the whole thing under the door.
> > Line it all up and jack. The top pin is longer than the bottom pin so once
> > the bottom pin is free you have about 1/4 inch left in the top. (Not only is
> > this so that the nut can attach to the pin but assists lining the pins up
> > when putting the doors back on by yourself). Make sure that you 1.) have the
> > door open about 1/2 of it's swing to make sure it clears the windshield
> > frame and 2.) have the "lifting contraption" positioned near the front of
> > the door so that the lifting force is sliding the pins out and not bending
> > the door.
> >
> > One final thought, it is Fed regulation that there be a mirror on the
> > drivers side. You can probably get away without it but those cops can be
> > MF's when they want to.
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
> > news:be7pr0$270q2$1@ID-147790.news.dfncis.de...
> > > And next time, follow the recommendation in the owner's manual about
> > > lubricating the hinges with engine oil. ;o)
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:3F075BED.D51489F5@sympatico.ca...
> > > > Try some oil on the hinges and swing the door open and closed while
> > > > lifting.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > Eric Bailey wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I went out to take my full doors off today, and the passenger one

> > won't
> > > come
> > > > > off! Yes, I did take off both nuts.... The driver's door came off

> > with
> > > a
> > > > > bit of grunting (man those things are heavier than I expected), but

> > the
> > > > > passenger's side won't budge. Looks like I can lift it about 1/8" and
> > > it
> > > > > stops. I pulled on it hard enough to rock my TJ as far as I could

> > lift
> > > it,
> > > > > and nothing.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone have any tips on this? It's insanely hot out right now and I
> > > figure
> > > > > the more wind that hits me, the better!
> > > > >
> > > > > Eric
> > > > > 99 TJ SE
> > >
> > >


--
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95 YJ RIP
02 TJ Sport Work in progress (His)
99 WJ Limited (Hers)
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Earle Horton 07-06-2003 12:13 PM

Re: Stuck door!
 
I use Baja doors to keep the big pieces of dust out and empty pop cans in.
Since there is no place to put motorcycle mirrors, I have CJ mirrors mounted
on the windshield hinges. When driving down a gravel road what is in the
mirrors reminds me of some of the pharmaceuticals I took when I was (much)
younger.

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F083E9C.189DE499@sympatico.ca...
> If you need a mirror, a Honda motorcycle mirror fits perfect into the
> hinge hole with the door off. Cheap, easy and it doesn't vibrate.
>
> Mike
>
>
> Christopher Reynolds wrote:
> >
> > For those first time removed (or first time after a long winter) doors,

it
> > is much easier and with less strain if you get a scrap piece of 2X4,

stand
> > it on end on top of a floor jack and slide the whole thing under the

door.
> > Line it all up and jack. The top pin is longer than the bottom pin so

once
> > the bottom pin is free you have about 1/4 inch left in the top. (Not

only is
> > this so that the nut can attach to the pin but assists lining the pins

up
> > when putting the doors back on by yourself). Make sure that you 1.) have

the
> > door open about 1/2 of it's swing to make sure it clears the windshield
> > frame and 2.) have the "lifting contraption" positioned near the front

of
> > the door so that the lifting force is sliding the pins out and not

bending
> > the door.
> >
> > One final thought, it is Fed regulation that there be a mirror on the
> > drivers side. You can probably get away without it but those cops can be
> > MF's when they want to.
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in

message
> > news:be7pr0$270q2$1@ID-147790.news.dfncis.de...
> > > And next time, follow the recommendation in the owner's manual about
> > > lubricating the hinges with engine oil. ;o)
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:3F075BED.D51489F5@sympatico.ca...
> > > > Try some oil on the hinges and swing the door open and closed while
> > > > lifting.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > Eric Bailey wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I went out to take my full doors off today, and the passenger one

> > won't
> > > come
> > > > > off! Yes, I did take off both nuts.... The driver's door came

off
> > with
> > > a
> > > > > bit of grunting (man those things are heavier than I expected),

but
> > the
> > > > > passenger's side won't budge. Looks like I can lift it about 1/8"

and
> > > it
> > > > > stops. I pulled on it hard enough to rock my TJ as far as I could

> > lift
> > > it,
> > > > > and nothing.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone have any tips on this? It's insanely hot out right now and

I
> > > figure
> > > > > the more wind that hits me, the better!
> > > > >
> > > > > Eric
> > > > > 99 TJ SE
> > >
> > >




Mike Romain 07-06-2003 01:54 PM

Re: Stuck door!
 
Have to ask Steve Seppala, he has a set on.

I forwarded this to him.

Mike

Chad Fraker wrote:
>
> Which model Honda mirror. All of the cycle shops around here (milwaukee) that
> they don't have anything to fit.
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > If you need a mirror, a Honda motorcycle mirror fits perfect into the
> > hinge hole with the door off. Cheap, easy and it doesn't vibrate.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Christopher Reynolds wrote:
> > >
> > > For those first time removed (or first time after a long winter) doors, it
> > > is much easier and with less strain if you get a scrap piece of 2X4, stand
> > > it on end on top of a floor jack and slide the whole thing under the door.
> > > Line it all up and jack. The top pin is longer than the bottom pin so once
> > > the bottom pin is free you have about 1/4 inch left in the top. (Not only is
> > > this so that the nut can attach to the pin but assists lining the pins up
> > > when putting the doors back on by yourself). Make sure that you 1.) have the
> > > door open about 1/2 of it's swing to make sure it clears the windshield
> > > frame and 2.) have the "lifting contraption" positioned near the front of
> > > the door so that the lifting force is sliding the pins out and not bending
> > > the door.
> > >
> > > One final thought, it is Fed regulation that there be a mirror on the
> > > drivers side. You can probably get away without it but those cops can be
> > > MF's when they want to.
> > >
> > > "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
> > > news:be7pr0$270q2$1@ID-147790.news.dfncis.de...
> > > > And next time, follow the recommendation in the owner's manual about
> > > > lubricating the hinges with engine oil. ;o)
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > news:3F075BED.D51489F5@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > Try some oil on the hinges and swing the door open and closed while
> > > > > lifting.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > >
> > > > > Eric Bailey wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I went out to take my full doors off today, and the passenger one
> > > won't
> > > > come
> > > > > > off! Yes, I did take off both nuts.... The driver's door came off
> > > with
> > > > a
> > > > > > bit of grunting (man those things are heavier than I expected), but
> > > the
> > > > > > passenger's side won't budge. Looks like I can lift it about 1/8" and
> > > > it
> > > > > > stops. I pulled on it hard enough to rock my TJ as far as I could
> > > lift
> > > > it,
> > > > > > and nothing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anyone have any tips on this? It's insanely hot out right now and I
> > > > figure
> > > > > > the more wind that hits me, the better!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Eric
> > > > > > 99 TJ SE
> > > >
> > > >

>
> --
> Chad
> Remove MY.APENDIX to reply
> http://home.wi.rr.com/sylvanis/index.html
>
> 95 YJ RIP
> 02 TJ Sport Work in progress (His)
> 99 WJ Limited (Hers)
> http://home.wi.rr.com/sylvanis/jeep.html
>
> " A computer lets you make more mistakes faster than any invention in human
> history. With the possible exceptions of handguns and tequila." Mitch Ratcliffe


Eric Bailey 07-06-2003 06:06 PM

Re: Stuck door!
 
As for federal regulations, apparently those that patrol the streets in this
area are not aware of it. I've asked a couple of different patrol cops what
the rules were, and they said they didn't think there was anything that
specified one way or the other. That, and they said that they wouldn't
waste their time pulling a Jeep over just because it didn't have side
mirrors...

That, and in Texas, I know you only have to have the rearview mirror (law
says something about needing one mirror that allows you to see so many feet
behind you, and with the top off, the rearview does the job).

Eric
"Christopher Reynolds" <cd.reynolds@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:b2NNa.41259$3o3.2761342@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> For those first time removed (or first time after a long winter) doors, it
> is much easier and with less strain if you get a scrap piece of 2X4, stand
> it on end on top of a floor jack and slide the whole thing under the door.
> Line it all up and jack. The top pin is longer than the bottom pin so once
> the bottom pin is free you have about 1/4 inch left in the top. (Not only

is
> this so that the nut can attach to the pin but assists lining the pins up
> when putting the doors back on by yourself). Make sure that you 1.) have

the
> door open about 1/2 of it's swing to make sure it clears the windshield
> frame and 2.) have the "lifting contraption" positioned near the front of
> the door so that the lifting force is sliding the pins out and not bending
> the door.
>
> One final thought, it is Fed regulation that there be a mirror on the
> drivers side. You can probably get away without it but those cops can be
> MF's when they want to.
>
> "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
> news:be7pr0$270q2$1@ID-147790.news.dfncis.de...
> > And next time, follow the recommendation in the owner's manual about
> > lubricating the hinges with engine oil. ;o)
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3F075BED.D51489F5@sympatico.ca...
> > > Try some oil on the hinges and swing the door open and closed while
> > > lifting.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Eric Bailey wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I went out to take my full doors off today, and the passenger one

> won't
> > come
> > > > off! Yes, I did take off both nuts.... The driver's door came off

> with
> > a
> > > > bit of grunting (man those things are heavier than I expected), but

> the
> > > > passenger's side won't budge. Looks like I can lift it about 1/8"

and
> > it
> > > > stops. I pulled on it hard enough to rock my TJ as far as I could

> lift
> > it,
> > > > and nothing.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone have any tips on this? It's insanely hot out right now and I

> > figure
> > > > the more wind that hits me, the better!
> > > >
> > > > Eric
> > > > 99 TJ SE

> >
> >

>
>





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