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TW 11-19-2004 05:31 AM

Strange leak
 
Hi All,

I seem to have develop a very strange leak on my TJ. I didn't drive it
since Sunday. Everything was fine, except for in the evening yesterday I
noticed a puddle of something just under where the radiator would in the
centre. I checked the consistency, its not oil and does not have any smell
(definitely does not smell like the coolant). I looked around with a light
and noticed some wet area around where the top radiator hose is clamped to
the radiator and around the seam area just around there. The water, or
whatever it is, seems to just dripped along the inside of the fan shroud
and then drip on the floor at the bottom of the shroud.

I drove it for a few kilometres to test, but the TJ never overheated or
noticed drop in coolant level. I then parked it in a different location,
nothing dripped all night or in the morning. I did not drive it today
during the day, nothing dripped till something like 5 pm. I noticed that
there was a small puddle again, same area wet. Drove it for around 10 kms
to push my luck and test, everything worked fine. There is no drop in
coolant or any other oil level. The liquid has no smell and feels like
water. Could this simply be condensation towards late afternoon, early
evening? But I had never ever noticed this before.

The funny thing is that the spot where the liquid had leaked yesterday
still has a dry mark on the driveway, so it could not have simply been
water (driveway is stained - water doesn't stain concrete).

I am stumped here, any suggestions. I have not tried driving on the
motorway to test any leakage at high speed. Should I try to get the
radiator pressure tested at a shop to see what happens? Is there any
easier way of testing this theory?

TW
--
01 TJ Renegade 4.0L Auto
D30/44, 265/75R16 BFG Muds




jeff 11-19-2004 08:28 AM

Re: Strange leak
 
'01 should have the extended life coolant which is amber colored, not green
like the old glycol. Does it taste like coolant?
--
jeff

"TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message
news:cnkie7$sjv$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
> Hi All,
>
> I seem to have develop a very strange leak on my TJ. I didn't drive it
> since Sunday. Everything was fine, except for in the evening yesterday I
> noticed a puddle of something just under where the radiator would in the
> centre. I checked the consistency, its not oil and does not have any

smell
> (definitely does not smell like the coolant). I looked around with a

light
> and noticed some wet area around where the top radiator hose is clamped to
> the radiator and around the seam area just around there. The water, or
> whatever it is, seems to just dripped along the inside of the fan shroud
> and then drip on the floor at the bottom of the shroud.
>
> I drove it for a few kilometres to test, but the TJ never overheated or
> noticed drop in coolant level. I then parked it in a different location,
> nothing dripped all night or in the morning. I did not drive it today
> during the day, nothing dripped till something like 5 pm. I noticed that
> there was a small puddle again, same area wet. Drove it for around 10 kms
> to push my luck and test, everything worked fine. There is no drop in
> coolant or any other oil level. The liquid has no smell and feels like
> water. Could this simply be condensation towards late afternoon, early
> evening? But I had never ever noticed this before.
>
> The funny thing is that the spot where the liquid had leaked yesterday
> still has a dry mark on the driveway, so it could not have simply been
> water (driveway is stained - water doesn't stain concrete).
>
> I am stumped here, any suggestions. I have not tried driving on the
> motorway to test any leakage at high speed. Should I try to get the
> radiator pressure tested at a shop to see what happens? Is there any
> easier way of testing this theory?
>
> TW
> --
> 01 TJ Renegade 4.0L Auto
> D30/44, 265/75R16 BFG Muds
>
>
>




jeff 11-19-2004 08:28 AM

Re: Strange leak
 
'01 should have the extended life coolant which is amber colored, not green
like the old glycol. Does it taste like coolant?
--
jeff

"TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message
news:cnkie7$sjv$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
> Hi All,
>
> I seem to have develop a very strange leak on my TJ. I didn't drive it
> since Sunday. Everything was fine, except for in the evening yesterday I
> noticed a puddle of something just under where the radiator would in the
> centre. I checked the consistency, its not oil and does not have any

smell
> (definitely does not smell like the coolant). I looked around with a

light
> and noticed some wet area around where the top radiator hose is clamped to
> the radiator and around the seam area just around there. The water, or
> whatever it is, seems to just dripped along the inside of the fan shroud
> and then drip on the floor at the bottom of the shroud.
>
> I drove it for a few kilometres to test, but the TJ never overheated or
> noticed drop in coolant level. I then parked it in a different location,
> nothing dripped all night or in the morning. I did not drive it today
> during the day, nothing dripped till something like 5 pm. I noticed that
> there was a small puddle again, same area wet. Drove it for around 10 kms
> to push my luck and test, everything worked fine. There is no drop in
> coolant or any other oil level. The liquid has no smell and feels like
> water. Could this simply be condensation towards late afternoon, early
> evening? But I had never ever noticed this before.
>
> The funny thing is that the spot where the liquid had leaked yesterday
> still has a dry mark on the driveway, so it could not have simply been
> water (driveway is stained - water doesn't stain concrete).
>
> I am stumped here, any suggestions. I have not tried driving on the
> motorway to test any leakage at high speed. Should I try to get the
> radiator pressure tested at a shop to see what happens? Is there any
> easier way of testing this theory?
>
> TW
> --
> 01 TJ Renegade 4.0L Auto
> D30/44, 265/75R16 BFG Muds
>
>
>




jeff 11-19-2004 08:28 AM

Re: Strange leak
 
'01 should have the extended life coolant which is amber colored, not green
like the old glycol. Does it taste like coolant?
--
jeff

"TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message
news:cnkie7$sjv$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
> Hi All,
>
> I seem to have develop a very strange leak on my TJ. I didn't drive it
> since Sunday. Everything was fine, except for in the evening yesterday I
> noticed a puddle of something just under where the radiator would in the
> centre. I checked the consistency, its not oil and does not have any

smell
> (definitely does not smell like the coolant). I looked around with a

light
> and noticed some wet area around where the top radiator hose is clamped to
> the radiator and around the seam area just around there. The water, or
> whatever it is, seems to just dripped along the inside of the fan shroud
> and then drip on the floor at the bottom of the shroud.
>
> I drove it for a few kilometres to test, but the TJ never overheated or
> noticed drop in coolant level. I then parked it in a different location,
> nothing dripped all night or in the morning. I did not drive it today
> during the day, nothing dripped till something like 5 pm. I noticed that
> there was a small puddle again, same area wet. Drove it for around 10 kms
> to push my luck and test, everything worked fine. There is no drop in
> coolant or any other oil level. The liquid has no smell and feels like
> water. Could this simply be condensation towards late afternoon, early
> evening? But I had never ever noticed this before.
>
> The funny thing is that the spot where the liquid had leaked yesterday
> still has a dry mark on the driveway, so it could not have simply been
> water (driveway is stained - water doesn't stain concrete).
>
> I am stumped here, any suggestions. I have not tried driving on the
> motorway to test any leakage at high speed. Should I try to get the
> radiator pressure tested at a shop to see what happens? Is there any
> easier way of testing this theory?
>
> TW
> --
> 01 TJ Renegade 4.0L Auto
> D30/44, 265/75R16 BFG Muds
>
>
>




Paw 11-19-2004 09:11 AM

Re: Strange leak
 
Well - it could be the radiator going - it's plastic in many parts and is
known to develop leaks - ours leaked in the seams up top about 1.5 years
ago. Through in some radiator gook to stop the leaks, and then bought an
all metal radiator - change out is quite easy on the TJ.

This site has a good write up I used....

http://www.stu-offroad.com/radiator/radiator-1.htm

hth,
Paul


"TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message
news:cnkie7$sjv$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
> Hi All,
>
> I seem to have develop a very strange leak on my TJ. I didn't drive it
> since Sunday. Everything was fine, except for in the evening yesterday I
> noticed a puddle of something just under where the radiator would in the
> centre. I checked the consistency, its not oil and does not have any
> smell
> (definitely does not smell like the coolant). I looked around with a
> light
> and noticed some wet area around where the top radiator hose is clamped to
> the radiator and around the seam area just around there. The water, or
> whatever it is, seems to just dripped along the inside of the fan shroud
> and then drip on the floor at the bottom of the shroud.
>
> I drove it for a few kilometres to test, but the TJ never overheated or
> noticed drop in coolant level. I then parked it in a different location,
> nothing dripped all night or in the morning. I did not drive it today
> during the day, nothing dripped till something like 5 pm. I noticed that
> there was a small puddle again, same area wet. Drove it for around 10 kms
> to push my luck and test, everything worked fine. There is no drop in
> coolant or any other oil level. The liquid has no smell and feels like
> water. Could this simply be condensation towards late afternoon, early
> evening? But I had never ever noticed this before.
>
> The funny thing is that the spot where the liquid had leaked yesterday
> still has a dry mark on the driveway, so it could not have simply been
> water (driveway is stained - water doesn't stain concrete).
>
> I am stumped here, any suggestions. I have not tried driving on the
> motorway to test any leakage at high speed. Should I try to get the
> radiator pressure tested at a shop to see what happens? Is there any
> easier way of testing this theory?
>
> TW
> --
> 01 TJ Renegade 4.0L Auto
> D30/44, 265/75R16 BFG Muds
>
>
>




Paw 11-19-2004 09:11 AM

Re: Strange leak
 
Well - it could be the radiator going - it's plastic in many parts and is
known to develop leaks - ours leaked in the seams up top about 1.5 years
ago. Through in some radiator gook to stop the leaks, and then bought an
all metal radiator - change out is quite easy on the TJ.

This site has a good write up I used....

http://www.stu-offroad.com/radiator/radiator-1.htm

hth,
Paul


"TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message
news:cnkie7$sjv$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
> Hi All,
>
> I seem to have develop a very strange leak on my TJ. I didn't drive it
> since Sunday. Everything was fine, except for in the evening yesterday I
> noticed a puddle of something just under where the radiator would in the
> centre. I checked the consistency, its not oil and does not have any
> smell
> (definitely does not smell like the coolant). I looked around with a
> light
> and noticed some wet area around where the top radiator hose is clamped to
> the radiator and around the seam area just around there. The water, or
> whatever it is, seems to just dripped along the inside of the fan shroud
> and then drip on the floor at the bottom of the shroud.
>
> I drove it for a few kilometres to test, but the TJ never overheated or
> noticed drop in coolant level. I then parked it in a different location,
> nothing dripped all night or in the morning. I did not drive it today
> during the day, nothing dripped till something like 5 pm. I noticed that
> there was a small puddle again, same area wet. Drove it for around 10 kms
> to push my luck and test, everything worked fine. There is no drop in
> coolant or any other oil level. The liquid has no smell and feels like
> water. Could this simply be condensation towards late afternoon, early
> evening? But I had never ever noticed this before.
>
> The funny thing is that the spot where the liquid had leaked yesterday
> still has a dry mark on the driveway, so it could not have simply been
> water (driveway is stained - water doesn't stain concrete).
>
> I am stumped here, any suggestions. I have not tried driving on the
> motorway to test any leakage at high speed. Should I try to get the
> radiator pressure tested at a shop to see what happens? Is there any
> easier way of testing this theory?
>
> TW
> --
> 01 TJ Renegade 4.0L Auto
> D30/44, 265/75R16 BFG Muds
>
>
>




Paw 11-19-2004 09:11 AM

Re: Strange leak
 
Well - it could be the radiator going - it's plastic in many parts and is
known to develop leaks - ours leaked in the seams up top about 1.5 years
ago. Through in some radiator gook to stop the leaks, and then bought an
all metal radiator - change out is quite easy on the TJ.

This site has a good write up I used....

http://www.stu-offroad.com/radiator/radiator-1.htm

hth,
Paul


"TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message
news:cnkie7$sjv$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
> Hi All,
>
> I seem to have develop a very strange leak on my TJ. I didn't drive it
> since Sunday. Everything was fine, except for in the evening yesterday I
> noticed a puddle of something just under where the radiator would in the
> centre. I checked the consistency, its not oil and does not have any
> smell
> (definitely does not smell like the coolant). I looked around with a
> light
> and noticed some wet area around where the top radiator hose is clamped to
> the radiator and around the seam area just around there. The water, or
> whatever it is, seems to just dripped along the inside of the fan shroud
> and then drip on the floor at the bottom of the shroud.
>
> I drove it for a few kilometres to test, but the TJ never overheated or
> noticed drop in coolant level. I then parked it in a different location,
> nothing dripped all night or in the morning. I did not drive it today
> during the day, nothing dripped till something like 5 pm. I noticed that
> there was a small puddle again, same area wet. Drove it for around 10 kms
> to push my luck and test, everything worked fine. There is no drop in
> coolant or any other oil level. The liquid has no smell and feels like
> water. Could this simply be condensation towards late afternoon, early
> evening? But I had never ever noticed this before.
>
> The funny thing is that the spot where the liquid had leaked yesterday
> still has a dry mark on the driveway, so it could not have simply been
> water (driveway is stained - water doesn't stain concrete).
>
> I am stumped here, any suggestions. I have not tried driving on the
> motorway to test any leakage at high speed. Should I try to get the
> radiator pressure tested at a shop to see what happens? Is there any
> easier way of testing this theory?
>
> TW
> --
> 01 TJ Renegade 4.0L Auto
> D30/44, 265/75R16 BFG Muds
>
>
>




Mike Romain 11-19-2004 09:22 AM

Re: Strange leak
 
I recently helped a gent change his TJ rad. It too was leaking in the
exact same spot, right under the hose. That crack seal lets go from
vibration it would seem.

The hose has the vibration of the engine in it that transfers to the top
of the rad and the rad falls apart. Great design. (If you sell parts)

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Paw wrote:
>
> Well - it could be the radiator going - it's plastic in many parts and is
> known to develop leaks - ours leaked in the seams up top about 1.5 years
> ago. Through in some radiator gook to stop the leaks, and then bought an
> all metal radiator - change out is quite easy on the TJ.
>
> This site has a good write up I used....
>
> http://www.stu-offroad.com/radiator/radiator-1.htm
>
> hth,
> Paul
>
> "TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message
> news:cnkie7$sjv$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I seem to have develop a very strange leak on my TJ. I didn't drive it
> > since Sunday. Everything was fine, except for in the evening yesterday I
> > noticed a puddle of something just under where the radiator would in the
> > centre. I checked the consistency, its not oil and does not have any
> > smell
> > (definitely does not smell like the coolant). I looked around with a
> > light
> > and noticed some wet area around where the top radiator hose is clamped to
> > the radiator and around the seam area just around there. The water, or
> > whatever it is, seems to just dripped along the inside of the fan shroud
> > and then drip on the floor at the bottom of the shroud.
> >
> > I drove it for a few kilometres to test, but the TJ never overheated or
> > noticed drop in coolant level. I then parked it in a different location,
> > nothing dripped all night or in the morning. I did not drive it today
> > during the day, nothing dripped till something like 5 pm. I noticed that
> > there was a small puddle again, same area wet. Drove it for around 10 kms
> > to push my luck and test, everything worked fine. There is no drop in
> > coolant or any other oil level. The liquid has no smell and feels like
> > water. Could this simply be condensation towards late afternoon, early
> > evening? But I had never ever noticed this before.
> >
> > The funny thing is that the spot where the liquid had leaked yesterday
> > still has a dry mark on the driveway, so it could not have simply been
> > water (driveway is stained - water doesn't stain concrete).
> >
> > I am stumped here, any suggestions. I have not tried driving on the
> > motorway to test any leakage at high speed. Should I try to get the
> > radiator pressure tested at a shop to see what happens? Is there any
> > easier way of testing this theory?
> >
> > TW
> > --
> > 01 TJ Renegade 4.0L Auto
> > D30/44, 265/75R16 BFG Muds
> >
> >
> >


Mike Romain 11-19-2004 09:22 AM

Re: Strange leak
 
I recently helped a gent change his TJ rad. It too was leaking in the
exact same spot, right under the hose. That crack seal lets go from
vibration it would seem.

The hose has the vibration of the engine in it that transfers to the top
of the rad and the rad falls apart. Great design. (If you sell parts)

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Paw wrote:
>
> Well - it could be the radiator going - it's plastic in many parts and is
> known to develop leaks - ours leaked in the seams up top about 1.5 years
> ago. Through in some radiator gook to stop the leaks, and then bought an
> all metal radiator - change out is quite easy on the TJ.
>
> This site has a good write up I used....
>
> http://www.stu-offroad.com/radiator/radiator-1.htm
>
> hth,
> Paul
>
> "TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message
> news:cnkie7$sjv$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I seem to have develop a very strange leak on my TJ. I didn't drive it
> > since Sunday. Everything was fine, except for in the evening yesterday I
> > noticed a puddle of something just under where the radiator would in the
> > centre. I checked the consistency, its not oil and does not have any
> > smell
> > (definitely does not smell like the coolant). I looked around with a
> > light
> > and noticed some wet area around where the top radiator hose is clamped to
> > the radiator and around the seam area just around there. The water, or
> > whatever it is, seems to just dripped along the inside of the fan shroud
> > and then drip on the floor at the bottom of the shroud.
> >
> > I drove it for a few kilometres to test, but the TJ never overheated or
> > noticed drop in coolant level. I then parked it in a different location,
> > nothing dripped all night or in the morning. I did not drive it today
> > during the day, nothing dripped till something like 5 pm. I noticed that
> > there was a small puddle again, same area wet. Drove it for around 10 kms
> > to push my luck and test, everything worked fine. There is no drop in
> > coolant or any other oil level. The liquid has no smell and feels like
> > water. Could this simply be condensation towards late afternoon, early
> > evening? But I had never ever noticed this before.
> >
> > The funny thing is that the spot where the liquid had leaked yesterday
> > still has a dry mark on the driveway, so it could not have simply been
> > water (driveway is stained - water doesn't stain concrete).
> >
> > I am stumped here, any suggestions. I have not tried driving on the
> > motorway to test any leakage at high speed. Should I try to get the
> > radiator pressure tested at a shop to see what happens? Is there any
> > easier way of testing this theory?
> >
> > TW
> > --
> > 01 TJ Renegade 4.0L Auto
> > D30/44, 265/75R16 BFG Muds
> >
> >
> >


Mike Romain 11-19-2004 09:22 AM

Re: Strange leak
 
I recently helped a gent change his TJ rad. It too was leaking in the
exact same spot, right under the hose. That crack seal lets go from
vibration it would seem.

The hose has the vibration of the engine in it that transfers to the top
of the rad and the rad falls apart. Great design. (If you sell parts)

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Paw wrote:
>
> Well - it could be the radiator going - it's plastic in many parts and is
> known to develop leaks - ours leaked in the seams up top about 1.5 years
> ago. Through in some radiator gook to stop the leaks, and then bought an
> all metal radiator - change out is quite easy on the TJ.
>
> This site has a good write up I used....
>
> http://www.stu-offroad.com/radiator/radiator-1.htm
>
> hth,
> Paul
>
> "TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message
> news:cnkie7$sjv$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I seem to have develop a very strange leak on my TJ. I didn't drive it
> > since Sunday. Everything was fine, except for in the evening yesterday I
> > noticed a puddle of something just under where the radiator would in the
> > centre. I checked the consistency, its not oil and does not have any
> > smell
> > (definitely does not smell like the coolant). I looked around with a
> > light
> > and noticed some wet area around where the top radiator hose is clamped to
> > the radiator and around the seam area just around there. The water, or
> > whatever it is, seems to just dripped along the inside of the fan shroud
> > and then drip on the floor at the bottom of the shroud.
> >
> > I drove it for a few kilometres to test, but the TJ never overheated or
> > noticed drop in coolant level. I then parked it in a different location,
> > nothing dripped all night or in the morning. I did not drive it today
> > during the day, nothing dripped till something like 5 pm. I noticed that
> > there was a small puddle again, same area wet. Drove it for around 10 kms
> > to push my luck and test, everything worked fine. There is no drop in
> > coolant or any other oil level. The liquid has no smell and feels like
> > water. Could this simply be condensation towards late afternoon, early
> > evening? But I had never ever noticed this before.
> >
> > The funny thing is that the spot where the liquid had leaked yesterday
> > still has a dry mark on the driveway, so it could not have simply been
> > water (driveway is stained - water doesn't stain concrete).
> >
> > I am stumped here, any suggestions. I have not tried driving on the
> > motorway to test any leakage at high speed. Should I try to get the
> > radiator pressure tested at a shop to see what happens? Is there any
> > easier way of testing this theory?
> >
> > TW
> > --
> > 01 TJ Renegade 4.0L Auto
> > D30/44, 265/75R16 BFG Muds
> >
> >
> >


TW 11-19-2004 02:27 PM

Re: Strange leak
 
It is amber (orangish) colour coolant, but I have noticed no drop in the
coolant level. Also the TJ was parked for four days when this started.
Its the first four day period that I have not driven it since buying it
last year.

As for the taste, I don't what coolant tastes like!

TW
--


"jeff" <jalowe44.del.ete.this@hotmail..com.invaid> wrote in message
news:5ymnd.6990$qS4.3445@trnddc09...
> '01 should have the extended life coolant which is amber colored, not

green
> like the old glycol. Does it taste like coolant?
> --
> jeff
>



TW 11-19-2004 02:27 PM

Re: Strange leak
 
It is amber (orangish) colour coolant, but I have noticed no drop in the
coolant level. Also the TJ was parked for four days when this started.
Its the first four day period that I have not driven it since buying it
last year.

As for the taste, I don't what coolant tastes like!

TW
--


"jeff" <jalowe44.del.ete.this@hotmail..com.invaid> wrote in message
news:5ymnd.6990$qS4.3445@trnddc09...
> '01 should have the extended life coolant which is amber colored, not

green
> like the old glycol. Does it taste like coolant?
> --
> jeff
>



TW 11-19-2004 02:27 PM

Re: Strange leak
 
It is amber (orangish) colour coolant, but I have noticed no drop in the
coolant level. Also the TJ was parked for four days when this started.
Its the first four day period that I have not driven it since buying it
last year.

As for the taste, I don't what coolant tastes like!

TW
--


"jeff" <jalowe44.del.ete.this@hotmail..com.invaid> wrote in message
news:5ymnd.6990$qS4.3445@trnddc09...
> '01 should have the extended life coolant which is amber colored, not

green
> like the old glycol. Does it taste like coolant?
> --
> jeff
>



TW 11-19-2004 02:31 PM

Re: Strange leak
 
I have just read that write-up and the change does seem simple.

How safe is it to drive around with leak stop in the cooling system. I
mean, is that thing safe for the engine and water pump? I'll start calling
places on Monday to find out what is available in New Zealand (retailers
are not really known for stocking Wrangler parts).

Secondly, if I am to change it, should I get the one that has a bottom
tranny cooler or separate that out with a new auxiliary tranny cooler.

TW
--

"Paw" <p@p.com> wrote in message news:M4SdnSXQ5KWSYgDcRVn-jQ@comcast.com...
> Well - it could be the radiator going - it's plastic in many parts and is
> known to develop leaks - ours leaked in the seams up top about 1.5 years
> ago. Through in some radiator gook to stop the leaks, and then bought an
> all metal radiator - change out is quite easy on the TJ.
>
> This site has a good write up I used....
>
> http://www.stu-offroad.com/radiator/radiator-1.htm
>
> hth,
> Paul
>
>



TW 11-19-2004 02:31 PM

Re: Strange leak
 
I have just read that write-up and the change does seem simple.

How safe is it to drive around with leak stop in the cooling system. I
mean, is that thing safe for the engine and water pump? I'll start calling
places on Monday to find out what is available in New Zealand (retailers
are not really known for stocking Wrangler parts).

Secondly, if I am to change it, should I get the one that has a bottom
tranny cooler or separate that out with a new auxiliary tranny cooler.

TW
--

"Paw" <p@p.com> wrote in message news:M4SdnSXQ5KWSYgDcRVn-jQ@comcast.com...
> Well - it could be the radiator going - it's plastic in many parts and is
> known to develop leaks - ours leaked in the seams up top about 1.5 years
> ago. Through in some radiator gook to stop the leaks, and then bought an
> all metal radiator - change out is quite easy on the TJ.
>
> This site has a good write up I used....
>
> http://www.stu-offroad.com/radiator/radiator-1.htm
>
> hth,
> Paul
>
>



TW 11-19-2004 02:31 PM

Re: Strange leak
 
I have just read that write-up and the change does seem simple.

How safe is it to drive around with leak stop in the cooling system. I
mean, is that thing safe for the engine and water pump? I'll start calling
places on Monday to find out what is available in New Zealand (retailers
are not really known for stocking Wrangler parts).

Secondly, if I am to change it, should I get the one that has a bottom
tranny cooler or separate that out with a new auxiliary tranny cooler.

TW
--

"Paw" <p@p.com> wrote in message news:M4SdnSXQ5KWSYgDcRVn-jQ@comcast.com...
> Well - it could be the radiator going - it's plastic in many parts and is
> known to develop leaks - ours leaked in the seams up top about 1.5 years
> ago. Through in some radiator gook to stop the leaks, and then bought an
> all metal radiator - change out is quite easy on the TJ.
>
> This site has a good write up I used....
>
> http://www.stu-offroad.com/radiator/radiator-1.htm
>
> hth,
> Paul
>
>



TW 11-19-2004 02:34 PM

Re: Strange leak
 
I would have expected the radiator to last more than the coolant though.
It seems I have extended life coolant, but not the radiator. I'll keep an
eye on it and start looking for a replacement.

TW
--


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:419E01BF.9481469B@sympatico.ca...
> I recently helped a gent change his TJ rad. It too was leaking in the
> exact same spot, right under the hose. That crack seal lets go from
> vibration it would seem.
>
> The hose has the vibration of the engine in it that transfers to the top
> of the rad and the rad falls apart. Great design. (If you sell parts)
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>



TW 11-19-2004 02:34 PM

Re: Strange leak
 
I would have expected the radiator to last more than the coolant though.
It seems I have extended life coolant, but not the radiator. I'll keep an
eye on it and start looking for a replacement.

TW
--


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:419E01BF.9481469B@sympatico.ca...
> I recently helped a gent change his TJ rad. It too was leaking in the
> exact same spot, right under the hose. That crack seal lets go from
> vibration it would seem.
>
> The hose has the vibration of the engine in it that transfers to the top
> of the rad and the rad falls apart. Great design. (If you sell parts)
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>



TW 11-19-2004 02:34 PM

Re: Strange leak
 
I would have expected the radiator to last more than the coolant though.
It seems I have extended life coolant, but not the radiator. I'll keep an
eye on it and start looking for a replacement.

TW
--


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:419E01BF.9481469B@sympatico.ca...
> I recently helped a gent change his TJ rad. It too was leaking in the
> exact same spot, right under the hose. That crack seal lets go from
> vibration it would seem.
>
> The hose has the vibration of the engine in it that transfers to the top
> of the rad and the rad falls apart. Great design. (If you sell parts)
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>



Paw 11-21-2004 11:17 AM

Re: Strange leak
 
I drove around w/ it in the system for about a month, no troubles afaik, I
only used enough to stop the leak...
AS for the separate tranny cooler - Mike or Bill would know way better than
I, think it really depends on how hard you use your jeep and what
conditions...

"TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message
news:cnlihk$i0i$2@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>I have just read that write-up and the change does seem simple.
>
> How safe is it to drive around with leak stop in the cooling system. I
> mean, is that thing safe for the engine and water pump? I'll start
> calling
> places on Monday to find out what is available in New Zealand (retailers
> are not really known for stocking Wrangler parts).
>
> Secondly, if I am to change it, should I get the one that has a bottom
> tranny cooler or separate that out with a new auxiliary tranny cooler.
>
> TW
> --
>
> "Paw" <p@p.com> wrote in message
> news:M4SdnSXQ5KWSYgDcRVn-jQ@comcast.com...
>> Well - it could be the radiator going - it's plastic in many parts and is
>> known to develop leaks - ours leaked in the seams up top about 1.5 years
>> ago. Through in some radiator gook to stop the leaks, and then bought an
>> all metal radiator - change out is quite easy on the TJ.
>>
>> This site has a good write up I used....
>>
>> http://www.stu-offroad.com/radiator/radiator-1.htm
>>
>> hth,
>> Paul
>>
>>

>




Paw 11-21-2004 11:17 AM

Re: Strange leak
 
I drove around w/ it in the system for about a month, no troubles afaik, I
only used enough to stop the leak...
AS for the separate tranny cooler - Mike or Bill would know way better than
I, think it really depends on how hard you use your jeep and what
conditions...

"TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message
news:cnlihk$i0i$2@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>I have just read that write-up and the change does seem simple.
>
> How safe is it to drive around with leak stop in the cooling system. I
> mean, is that thing safe for the engine and water pump? I'll start
> calling
> places on Monday to find out what is available in New Zealand (retailers
> are not really known for stocking Wrangler parts).
>
> Secondly, if I am to change it, should I get the one that has a bottom
> tranny cooler or separate that out with a new auxiliary tranny cooler.
>
> TW
> --
>
> "Paw" <p@p.com> wrote in message
> news:M4SdnSXQ5KWSYgDcRVn-jQ@comcast.com...
>> Well - it could be the radiator going - it's plastic in many parts and is
>> known to develop leaks - ours leaked in the seams up top about 1.5 years
>> ago. Through in some radiator gook to stop the leaks, and then bought an
>> all metal radiator - change out is quite easy on the TJ.
>>
>> This site has a good write up I used....
>>
>> http://www.stu-offroad.com/radiator/radiator-1.htm
>>
>> hth,
>> Paul
>>
>>

>




Paw 11-21-2004 11:17 AM

Re: Strange leak
 
I drove around w/ it in the system for about a month, no troubles afaik, I
only used enough to stop the leak...
AS for the separate tranny cooler - Mike or Bill would know way better than
I, think it really depends on how hard you use your jeep and what
conditions...

"TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message
news:cnlihk$i0i$2@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>I have just read that write-up and the change does seem simple.
>
> How safe is it to drive around with leak stop in the cooling system. I
> mean, is that thing safe for the engine and water pump? I'll start
> calling
> places on Monday to find out what is available in New Zealand (retailers
> are not really known for stocking Wrangler parts).
>
> Secondly, if I am to change it, should I get the one that has a bottom
> tranny cooler or separate that out with a new auxiliary tranny cooler.
>
> TW
> --
>
> "Paw" <p@p.com> wrote in message
> news:M4SdnSXQ5KWSYgDcRVn-jQ@comcast.com...
>> Well - it could be the radiator going - it's plastic in many parts and is
>> known to develop leaks - ours leaked in the seams up top about 1.5 years
>> ago. Through in some radiator gook to stop the leaks, and then bought an
>> all metal radiator - change out is quite easy on the TJ.
>>
>> This site has a good write up I used....
>>
>> http://www.stu-offroad.com/radiator/radiator-1.htm
>>
>> hth,
>> Paul
>>
>>

>




TW 11-22-2004 01:30 AM

Re: Strange leak
 

Well, I just cleaned everything on Friday so that I could see better and
then I drove for about 50kms on Saturday and some trips on Sunday as well.
Engine was nice and warm, but no overheating at all. I have had no leaks
since. I had done nothing other than drive it a little. I guess in that
case it would be safe to assume that it was just a bit of condensation,
which is now all evaporated. I am still puzzled and keeping an eye on it.

TW

"Paw" <p@p.com> wrote in message news:rfGdnZ1X-NwCIj3cRVn-ug@comcast.com...
> I drove around w/ it in the system for about a month, no troubles afaik,

I
> only used enough to stop the leak...
> AS for the separate tranny cooler - Mike or Bill would know way better

than
> I, think it really depends on how hard you use your jeep and what
> conditions...
>




TW 11-22-2004 01:30 AM

Re: Strange leak
 

Well, I just cleaned everything on Friday so that I could see better and
then I drove for about 50kms on Saturday and some trips on Sunday as well.
Engine was nice and warm, but no overheating at all. I have had no leaks
since. I had done nothing other than drive it a little. I guess in that
case it would be safe to assume that it was just a bit of condensation,
which is now all evaporated. I am still puzzled and keeping an eye on it.

TW

"Paw" <p@p.com> wrote in message news:rfGdnZ1X-NwCIj3cRVn-ug@comcast.com...
> I drove around w/ it in the system for about a month, no troubles afaik,

I
> only used enough to stop the leak...
> AS for the separate tranny cooler - Mike or Bill would know way better

than
> I, think it really depends on how hard you use your jeep and what
> conditions...
>




TW 11-22-2004 01:30 AM

Re: Strange leak
 

Well, I just cleaned everything on Friday so that I could see better and
then I drove for about 50kms on Saturday and some trips on Sunday as well.
Engine was nice and warm, but no overheating at all. I have had no leaks
since. I had done nothing other than drive it a little. I guess in that
case it would be safe to assume that it was just a bit of condensation,
which is now all evaporated. I am still puzzled and keeping an eye on it.

TW

"Paw" <p@p.com> wrote in message news:rfGdnZ1X-NwCIj3cRVn-ug@comcast.com...
> I drove around w/ it in the system for about a month, no troubles afaik,

I
> only used enough to stop the leak...
> AS for the separate tranny cooler - Mike or Bill would know way better

than
> I, think it really depends on how hard you use your jeep and what
> conditions...
>





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