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EdC 11-18-2003 02:01 AM

steering box replace and/or upgrade
 
Son's 92 YJ's steering has WAY too much free play. I figure it's the gear
box and we're about to buy the replacement.
1. I've seen prices on the manual box that range from $178 to $260.
Nothing in the description of the parts gives any indication as to why one
would be worth $82 more. Do any of you have any clue? Quadratec has the
low price so far.
2. Is there danger of the box just giving out entirely if not replaced
soon enough?
3. Is conversion to power steering practical? I've been told the engine
itself is different and therefore it is not really an option.

--
92 YJ, 94 YJ
JPN4FUN in So Nevada
Ed C.

JimG 11-18-2003 08:42 AM

Re: steering box replace and/or upgrade
 
Not sure about a manual, but a re-man power steering box from Advance Auto
is ~$170. Some of the AGR units will cost a bit more... they are supposed
to be "heavy duty". Yours won't just suddenly give out and fail, it will
probably work for a long time... just develop more play. Also look for play
in the steering shaft. A power steering conversion is an option... I did it
on mine. You have to go to a bone yard and get the pump mounting
brackets... your block will have the hole necessary. May as well pick up
the pump and gear box from the same donor... then you have core components
for re-build/re-man. Look for any vehicle with the same motor (258 I
assume?). Mine came out of a Jeep pickup.

--
JimG
80' CJ-7, 258 CID
35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
4.56 D30-D44 SOA
D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
LockRight F&R


"EdC" <musicm6k3r@lvcm.com> wrote in message
news:musicm6k3r-1711032301540001@192.168.0.2...
> Son's 92 YJ's steering has WAY too much free play. I figure it's the gear
> box and we're about to buy the replacement.
> 1. I've seen prices on the manual box that range from $178 to $260.
> Nothing in the description of the parts gives any indication as to why one
> would be worth $82 more. Do any of you have any clue? Quadratec has the
> low price so far.
> 2. Is there danger of the box just giving out entirely if not replaced
> soon enough?
> 3. Is conversion to power steering practical? I've been told the engine
> itself is different and therefore it is not really an option.
>
> --
> 92 YJ, 94 YJ
> JPN4FUN in So Nevada
> Ed C.




JimG 11-18-2003 08:42 AM

Re: steering box replace and/or upgrade
 
Not sure about a manual, but a re-man power steering box from Advance Auto
is ~$170. Some of the AGR units will cost a bit more... they are supposed
to be "heavy duty". Yours won't just suddenly give out and fail, it will
probably work for a long time... just develop more play. Also look for play
in the steering shaft. A power steering conversion is an option... I did it
on mine. You have to go to a bone yard and get the pump mounting
brackets... your block will have the hole necessary. May as well pick up
the pump and gear box from the same donor... then you have core components
for re-build/re-man. Look for any vehicle with the same motor (258 I
assume?). Mine came out of a Jeep pickup.

--
JimG
80' CJ-7, 258 CID
35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
4.56 D30-D44 SOA
D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
LockRight F&R


"EdC" <musicm6k3r@lvcm.com> wrote in message
news:musicm6k3r-1711032301540001@192.168.0.2...
> Son's 92 YJ's steering has WAY too much free play. I figure it's the gear
> box and we're about to buy the replacement.
> 1. I've seen prices on the manual box that range from $178 to $260.
> Nothing in the description of the parts gives any indication as to why one
> would be worth $82 more. Do any of you have any clue? Quadratec has the
> low price so far.
> 2. Is there danger of the box just giving out entirely if not replaced
> soon enough?
> 3. Is conversion to power steering practical? I've been told the engine
> itself is different and therefore it is not really an option.
>
> --
> 92 YJ, 94 YJ
> JPN4FUN in So Nevada
> Ed C.




JimG 11-18-2003 08:42 AM

Re: steering box replace and/or upgrade
 
Not sure about a manual, but a re-man power steering box from Advance Auto
is ~$170. Some of the AGR units will cost a bit more... they are supposed
to be "heavy duty". Yours won't just suddenly give out and fail, it will
probably work for a long time... just develop more play. Also look for play
in the steering shaft. A power steering conversion is an option... I did it
on mine. You have to go to a bone yard and get the pump mounting
brackets... your block will have the hole necessary. May as well pick up
the pump and gear box from the same donor... then you have core components
for re-build/re-man. Look for any vehicle with the same motor (258 I
assume?). Mine came out of a Jeep pickup.

--
JimG
80' CJ-7, 258 CID
35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
4.56 D30-D44 SOA
D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
LockRight F&R


"EdC" <musicm6k3r@lvcm.com> wrote in message
news:musicm6k3r-1711032301540001@192.168.0.2...
> Son's 92 YJ's steering has WAY too much free play. I figure it's the gear
> box and we're about to buy the replacement.
> 1. I've seen prices on the manual box that range from $178 to $260.
> Nothing in the description of the parts gives any indication as to why one
> would be worth $82 more. Do any of you have any clue? Quadratec has the
> low price so far.
> 2. Is there danger of the box just giving out entirely if not replaced
> soon enough?
> 3. Is conversion to power steering practical? I've been told the engine
> itself is different and therefore it is not really an option.
>
> --
> 92 YJ, 94 YJ
> JPN4FUN in So Nevada
> Ed C.




Brent Bogrees 11-18-2003 09:08 AM

Re: steering box replace and/or upgrade
 
I had the same problem with too much play in my steering wheel. There
is a nut with a hex head center on top of the gear box. Loosen the
nut and tighten the hex center, then retighten the nut. Be careful
not to over tighten the hex center bolt because it is very easy to do
so. This should take the play out of your steering without having to
buy a new box.

-Brent Bogrees
'89 Jeep Wrangler YJ 2.5L TBI – 33x10.5 BFG MT's
'94 Jeep Cherokee Sport 4.0L – 31x10.5 BFG AT's
http://www.chrr.ohio-state.edu/~bogrees/html/Jeep.html


musicm6k3r@lvcm.com (EdC) wrote in message news:<musicm6k3r-1711032301540001@192.168.0.2>...
> Son's 92 YJ's steering has WAY too much free play. I figure it's the gear
> box and we're about to buy the replacement.
> 1. I've seen prices on the manual box that range from $178 to $260.
> Nothing in the description of the parts gives any indication as to why one
> would be worth $82 more. Do any of you have any clue? Quadratec has the
> low price so far.
> 2. Is there danger of the box just giving out entirely if not replaced
> soon enough?
> 3. Is conversion to power steering practical? I've been told the engine
> itself is different and therefore it is not really an option.


Brent Bogrees 11-18-2003 09:08 AM

Re: steering box replace and/or upgrade
 
I had the same problem with too much play in my steering wheel. There
is a nut with a hex head center on top of the gear box. Loosen the
nut and tighten the hex center, then retighten the nut. Be careful
not to over tighten the hex center bolt because it is very easy to do
so. This should take the play out of your steering without having to
buy a new box.

-Brent Bogrees
'89 Jeep Wrangler YJ 2.5L TBI – 33x10.5 BFG MT's
'94 Jeep Cherokee Sport 4.0L – 31x10.5 BFG AT's
http://www.chrr.ohio-state.edu/~bogrees/html/Jeep.html


musicm6k3r@lvcm.com (EdC) wrote in message news:<musicm6k3r-1711032301540001@192.168.0.2>...
> Son's 92 YJ's steering has WAY too much free play. I figure it's the gear
> box and we're about to buy the replacement.
> 1. I've seen prices on the manual box that range from $178 to $260.
> Nothing in the description of the parts gives any indication as to why one
> would be worth $82 more. Do any of you have any clue? Quadratec has the
> low price so far.
> 2. Is there danger of the box just giving out entirely if not replaced
> soon enough?
> 3. Is conversion to power steering practical? I've been told the engine
> itself is different and therefore it is not really an option.


Brent Bogrees 11-18-2003 09:08 AM

Re: steering box replace and/or upgrade
 
I had the same problem with too much play in my steering wheel. There
is a nut with a hex head center on top of the gear box. Loosen the
nut and tighten the hex center, then retighten the nut. Be careful
not to over tighten the hex center bolt because it is very easy to do
so. This should take the play out of your steering without having to
buy a new box.

-Brent Bogrees
'89 Jeep Wrangler YJ 2.5L TBI – 33x10.5 BFG MT's
'94 Jeep Cherokee Sport 4.0L – 31x10.5 BFG AT's
http://www.chrr.ohio-state.edu/~bogrees/html/Jeep.html


musicm6k3r@lvcm.com (EdC) wrote in message news:<musicm6k3r-1711032301540001@192.168.0.2>...
> Son's 92 YJ's steering has WAY too much free play. I figure it's the gear
> box and we're about to buy the replacement.
> 1. I've seen prices on the manual box that range from $178 to $260.
> Nothing in the description of the parts gives any indication as to why one
> would be worth $82 more. Do any of you have any clue? Quadratec has the
> low price so far.
> 2. Is there danger of the box just giving out entirely if not replaced
> soon enough?
> 3. Is conversion to power steering practical? I've been told the engine
> itself is different and therefore it is not really an option.


JimG 11-18-2003 09:51 AM

Re: steering box replace and/or upgrade
 
You can compensate for some play, but be carefull when making this
adjustment:
http://www.ifsja.org/tech/steering/boxadj.shtml

JimG

"Brent Bogrees" <bogrees.1@osu.edu> wrote in message
news:6a04cef7.0311180608.52d3056a@posting.google.c om...
> I had the same problem with too much play in my steering wheel. There
> is a nut with a hex head center on top of the gear box. Loosen the
> nut and tighten the hex center, then retighten the nut. Be careful
> not to over tighten the hex center bolt because it is very easy to do
> so. This should take the play out of your steering without having to
> buy a new box.
>
> -Brent Bogrees
> '89 Jeep Wrangler YJ 2.5L TBI - 33x10.5 BFG MT's
> '94 Jeep Cherokee Sport 4.0L - 31x10.5 BFG AT's
> http://www.chrr.ohio-state.edu/~bogrees/html/Jeep.html
>
>
> musicm6k3r@lvcm.com (EdC) wrote in message

news:<musicm6k3r-1711032301540001@192.168.0.2>...
> > Son's 92 YJ's steering has WAY too much free play. I figure it's the

gear
> > box and we're about to buy the replacement.
> > 1. I've seen prices on the manual box that range from $178 to $260.
> > Nothing in the description of the parts gives any indication as to why

one
> > would be worth $82 more. Do any of you have any clue? Quadratec has the
> > low price so far.
> > 2. Is there danger of the box just giving out entirely if not replaced
> > soon enough?
> > 3. Is conversion to power steering practical? I've been told the engine
> > itself is different and therefore it is not really an option.




JimG 11-18-2003 09:51 AM

Re: steering box replace and/or upgrade
 
You can compensate for some play, but be carefull when making this
adjustment:
http://www.ifsja.org/tech/steering/boxadj.shtml

JimG

"Brent Bogrees" <bogrees.1@osu.edu> wrote in message
news:6a04cef7.0311180608.52d3056a@posting.google.c om...
> I had the same problem with too much play in my steering wheel. There
> is a nut with a hex head center on top of the gear box. Loosen the
> nut and tighten the hex center, then retighten the nut. Be careful
> not to over tighten the hex center bolt because it is very easy to do
> so. This should take the play out of your steering without having to
> buy a new box.
>
> -Brent Bogrees
> '89 Jeep Wrangler YJ 2.5L TBI - 33x10.5 BFG MT's
> '94 Jeep Cherokee Sport 4.0L - 31x10.5 BFG AT's
> http://www.chrr.ohio-state.edu/~bogrees/html/Jeep.html
>
>
> musicm6k3r@lvcm.com (EdC) wrote in message

news:<musicm6k3r-1711032301540001@192.168.0.2>...
> > Son's 92 YJ's steering has WAY too much free play. I figure it's the

gear
> > box and we're about to buy the replacement.
> > 1. I've seen prices on the manual box that range from $178 to $260.
> > Nothing in the description of the parts gives any indication as to why

one
> > would be worth $82 more. Do any of you have any clue? Quadratec has the
> > low price so far.
> > 2. Is there danger of the box just giving out entirely if not replaced
> > soon enough?
> > 3. Is conversion to power steering practical? I've been told the engine
> > itself is different and therefore it is not really an option.




JimG 11-18-2003 09:51 AM

Re: steering box replace and/or upgrade
 
You can compensate for some play, but be carefull when making this
adjustment:
http://www.ifsja.org/tech/steering/boxadj.shtml

JimG

"Brent Bogrees" <bogrees.1@osu.edu> wrote in message
news:6a04cef7.0311180608.52d3056a@posting.google.c om...
> I had the same problem with too much play in my steering wheel. There
> is a nut with a hex head center on top of the gear box. Loosen the
> nut and tighten the hex center, then retighten the nut. Be careful
> not to over tighten the hex center bolt because it is very easy to do
> so. This should take the play out of your steering without having to
> buy a new box.
>
> -Brent Bogrees
> '89 Jeep Wrangler YJ 2.5L TBI - 33x10.5 BFG MT's
> '94 Jeep Cherokee Sport 4.0L - 31x10.5 BFG AT's
> http://www.chrr.ohio-state.edu/~bogrees/html/Jeep.html
>
>
> musicm6k3r@lvcm.com (EdC) wrote in message

news:<musicm6k3r-1711032301540001@192.168.0.2>...
> > Son's 92 YJ's steering has WAY too much free play. I figure it's the

gear
> > box and we're about to buy the replacement.
> > 1. I've seen prices on the manual box that range from $178 to $260.
> > Nothing in the description of the parts gives any indication as to why

one
> > would be worth $82 more. Do any of you have any clue? Quadratec has the
> > low price so far.
> > 2. Is there danger of the box just giving out entirely if not replaced
> > soon enough?
> > 3. Is conversion to power steering practical? I've been told the engine
> > itself is different and therefore it is not really an option.





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