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Re: Start motor w/out coolant?
I am guessing that pushing it or winching it out is out of the question? My
14 year old son gets a kick out of pushing mine out of the garage (the grading works for that stunt...). "aGraham" <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote in message news:aarongraham-140E34.16253909012004@corp-radius.supernews.com... > I am going to be pulling my radiator tomorrow to take it to get fixed. > The problem is i then have to move the Jeep out of the shop until I get > the radiator back. I have to move the jeep about 30 yds, would it be ok > to drive the Jeep this far with out any coolant and the radiator > removed? > > -- > o_o_o_o > /| ,[_____], > |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O- > ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_) |
Re: Start motor w/out coolant?
You think.?... you don't think the block won't heat the sensor up? Try
it... see if you can hold on to the sensor. JimG "mabar" <mabar@NOSPAMgbronline.com> wrote in message news:P4idnVE4WIcLy2KiRVn-jw@gbronline.com... > If there is no coolant, the temperature gauge will not work properly. > Watching the temp gauge with no coolant is useless. > > Tom > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > news:NbHLb.48221$7K6.45994@news02.roc.ny... > > Just watch the temperature (probably won't budge within 30 yards though). > > > > -- > > JimG > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > > > "aGraham" <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote in message > > news:aarongraham-140E34.16253909012004@corp-radius.supernews.com... > > > I am going to be pulling my radiator tomorrow to take it to get fixed. > > > The problem is i then have to move the Jeep out of the shop until I get > > > the radiator back. I have to move the jeep about 30 yds, would it be ok > > > to drive the Jeep this far with out any coolant and the radiator > > > removed? > > > > > > -- > > > o_o_o_o > > > /| ,[_____], > > > |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O- > > > ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_) > > > > > > |
Re: Start motor w/out coolant?
You think.?... you don't think the block won't heat the sensor up? Try
it... see if you can hold on to the sensor. JimG "mabar" <mabar@NOSPAMgbronline.com> wrote in message news:P4idnVE4WIcLy2KiRVn-jw@gbronline.com... > If there is no coolant, the temperature gauge will not work properly. > Watching the temp gauge with no coolant is useless. > > Tom > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > news:NbHLb.48221$7K6.45994@news02.roc.ny... > > Just watch the temperature (probably won't budge within 30 yards though). > > > > -- > > JimG > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > > > "aGraham" <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote in message > > news:aarongraham-140E34.16253909012004@corp-radius.supernews.com... > > > I am going to be pulling my radiator tomorrow to take it to get fixed. > > > The problem is i then have to move the Jeep out of the shop until I get > > > the radiator back. I have to move the jeep about 30 yds, would it be ok > > > to drive the Jeep this far with out any coolant and the radiator > > > removed? > > > > > > -- > > > o_o_o_o > > > /| ,[_____], > > > |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O- > > > ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_) > > > > > > |
Re: Start motor w/out coolant?
You think.?... you don't think the block won't heat the sensor up? Try
it... see if you can hold on to the sensor. JimG "mabar" <mabar@NOSPAMgbronline.com> wrote in message news:P4idnVE4WIcLy2KiRVn-jw@gbronline.com... > If there is no coolant, the temperature gauge will not work properly. > Watching the temp gauge with no coolant is useless. > > Tom > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > news:NbHLb.48221$7K6.45994@news02.roc.ny... > > Just watch the temperature (probably won't budge within 30 yards though). > > > > -- > > JimG > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > > > "aGraham" <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote in message > > news:aarongraham-140E34.16253909012004@corp-radius.supernews.com... > > > I am going to be pulling my radiator tomorrow to take it to get fixed. > > > The problem is i then have to move the Jeep out of the shop until I get > > > the radiator back. I have to move the jeep about 30 yds, would it be ok > > > to drive the Jeep this far with out any coolant and the radiator > > > removed? > > > > > > -- > > > o_o_o_o > > > /| ,[_____], > > > |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O- > > > ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_) > > > > > > |
Re: Start motor w/out coolant?
Absolutely no problem. Done it for years on all kinds of cars. If it's an
automatic trans don't forget to plug the trans cooler lines or you'll pump all of your trans fluid on the ground in pretty short order. A few comments after reading the other replies.. 1. 30 seconds won't even start to get things warm. There's no coolant in the exhaust manifolds at all and after 30 seconds you can still grab and hold them in your bare hands. The exhaust manifolds are the hottest spot in the engine. The cylinders are cooled somewhat by the incoming air charge. I would suggest that it would take at least 10 minutes for it even to get to operating temp. 2. When you drain the rad you will still have the block mostly full of coolant. The engine will only drain down to approximately the level of the water pump and the pump will still have coolant in it. 3. Of course the temp sending unit works without coolant in the engine. What good would it do if it won't tell you you're overheating if you lost all of your coolant going down the road. 4. The cyl's will not get red hot immediately. The oil in the engine will continue to keep things cooled down. GM Northstar's are built to be able to run up to 80 miles with no coolant at all and they advertise that fact. In a severely overheated engine the first thing to usually fail is the crankshaft/bearings, not the piston/cylinders. "aGraham" <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote in message news:aarongraham-140E34.16253909012004@corp-radius.supernews.com... > I am going to be pulling my radiator tomorrow to take it to get fixed. > The problem is i then have to move the Jeep out of the shop until I get > the radiator back. I have to move the jeep about 30 yds, would it be ok > to drive the Jeep this far with out any coolant and the radiator > removed? > > -- > o_o_o_o > /| ,[_____], > |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O- > ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_) |
Re: Start motor w/out coolant?
Absolutely no problem. Done it for years on all kinds of cars. If it's an
automatic trans don't forget to plug the trans cooler lines or you'll pump all of your trans fluid on the ground in pretty short order. A few comments after reading the other replies.. 1. 30 seconds won't even start to get things warm. There's no coolant in the exhaust manifolds at all and after 30 seconds you can still grab and hold them in your bare hands. The exhaust manifolds are the hottest spot in the engine. The cylinders are cooled somewhat by the incoming air charge. I would suggest that it would take at least 10 minutes for it even to get to operating temp. 2. When you drain the rad you will still have the block mostly full of coolant. The engine will only drain down to approximately the level of the water pump and the pump will still have coolant in it. 3. Of course the temp sending unit works without coolant in the engine. What good would it do if it won't tell you you're overheating if you lost all of your coolant going down the road. 4. The cyl's will not get red hot immediately. The oil in the engine will continue to keep things cooled down. GM Northstar's are built to be able to run up to 80 miles with no coolant at all and they advertise that fact. In a severely overheated engine the first thing to usually fail is the crankshaft/bearings, not the piston/cylinders. "aGraham" <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote in message news:aarongraham-140E34.16253909012004@corp-radius.supernews.com... > I am going to be pulling my radiator tomorrow to take it to get fixed. > The problem is i then have to move the Jeep out of the shop until I get > the radiator back. I have to move the jeep about 30 yds, would it be ok > to drive the Jeep this far with out any coolant and the radiator > removed? > > -- > o_o_o_o > /| ,[_____], > |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O- > ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_) |
Re: Start motor w/out coolant?
Absolutely no problem. Done it for years on all kinds of cars. If it's an
automatic trans don't forget to plug the trans cooler lines or you'll pump all of your trans fluid on the ground in pretty short order. A few comments after reading the other replies.. 1. 30 seconds won't even start to get things warm. There's no coolant in the exhaust manifolds at all and after 30 seconds you can still grab and hold them in your bare hands. The exhaust manifolds are the hottest spot in the engine. The cylinders are cooled somewhat by the incoming air charge. I would suggest that it would take at least 10 minutes for it even to get to operating temp. 2. When you drain the rad you will still have the block mostly full of coolant. The engine will only drain down to approximately the level of the water pump and the pump will still have coolant in it. 3. Of course the temp sending unit works without coolant in the engine. What good would it do if it won't tell you you're overheating if you lost all of your coolant going down the road. 4. The cyl's will not get red hot immediately. The oil in the engine will continue to keep things cooled down. GM Northstar's are built to be able to run up to 80 miles with no coolant at all and they advertise that fact. In a severely overheated engine the first thing to usually fail is the crankshaft/bearings, not the piston/cylinders. "aGraham" <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote in message news:aarongraham-140E34.16253909012004@corp-radius.supernews.com... > I am going to be pulling my radiator tomorrow to take it to get fixed. > The problem is i then have to move the Jeep out of the shop until I get > the radiator back. I have to move the jeep about 30 yds, would it be ok > to drive the Jeep this far with out any coolant and the radiator > removed? > > -- > o_o_o_o > /| ,[_____], > |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O- > ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_) |
Re: Start motor w/out coolant?
Not everybody dies from running with scissors. Unless all your vehicles are
supercharged nitro-burning funny cars you're pretty safe running them longer than 30 seconds. When your engine is cold, remove the rad cap and see how long it takes for your thermostat to open. That will give you an indication of how long it takes for your engine to detect warmth. By the way, the "removal of this tag is punishable by law" thing on sofa cushions and mattresses can be removed after you purchase them. -Brian "mabar" <mabar@NOSPAMgbronline.com> wrote in message news:8dudnaGeccHHy2KiRVn-tw@gbronline.com... : NO WAY should you drive it for a few minutes. The cylinder walls will turn : red hot and the engine will seize and be destroyed. : : 30 seconds MAXIMUM without coolant for my vehicles. : : Tom : : "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message : news:9EGLb.52125$AAe1.35813@news01.bloor.is.net.ca ble.rogers.com... : > If the engine is cold to begin with you can drive it for a few minutes : > without trouble. : > -Brian : > : > "aGraham" <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote in message : > news:aarongraham-140E34.16253909012004@corp-radius.supernews.com... : > : I am going to be pulling my radiator tomorrow to take it to get fixed. : > : The problem is i then have to move the Jeep out of the shop until I get : > : the radiator back. I have to move the jeep about 30 yds, would it be ok : > : to drive the Jeep this far with out any coolant and the radiator : > : removed? : > : : > : -- : > : o_o_o_o : > : /| ,[_____], : > : |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O- : > : ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_) : > : > : : |
Re: Start motor w/out coolant?
Not everybody dies from running with scissors. Unless all your vehicles are
supercharged nitro-burning funny cars you're pretty safe running them longer than 30 seconds. When your engine is cold, remove the rad cap and see how long it takes for your thermostat to open. That will give you an indication of how long it takes for your engine to detect warmth. By the way, the "removal of this tag is punishable by law" thing on sofa cushions and mattresses can be removed after you purchase them. -Brian "mabar" <mabar@NOSPAMgbronline.com> wrote in message news:8dudnaGeccHHy2KiRVn-tw@gbronline.com... : NO WAY should you drive it for a few minutes. The cylinder walls will turn : red hot and the engine will seize and be destroyed. : : 30 seconds MAXIMUM without coolant for my vehicles. : : Tom : : "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message : news:9EGLb.52125$AAe1.35813@news01.bloor.is.net.ca ble.rogers.com... : > If the engine is cold to begin with you can drive it for a few minutes : > without trouble. : > -Brian : > : > "aGraham" <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote in message : > news:aarongraham-140E34.16253909012004@corp-radius.supernews.com... : > : I am going to be pulling my radiator tomorrow to take it to get fixed. : > : The problem is i then have to move the Jeep out of the shop until I get : > : the radiator back. I have to move the jeep about 30 yds, would it be ok : > : to drive the Jeep this far with out any coolant and the radiator : > : removed? : > : : > : -- : > : o_o_o_o : > : /| ,[_____], : > : |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O- : > : ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_) : > : > : : |
Re: Start motor w/out coolant?
Not everybody dies from running with scissors. Unless all your vehicles are
supercharged nitro-burning funny cars you're pretty safe running them longer than 30 seconds. When your engine is cold, remove the rad cap and see how long it takes for your thermostat to open. That will give you an indication of how long it takes for your engine to detect warmth. By the way, the "removal of this tag is punishable by law" thing on sofa cushions and mattresses can be removed after you purchase them. -Brian "mabar" <mabar@NOSPAMgbronline.com> wrote in message news:8dudnaGeccHHy2KiRVn-tw@gbronline.com... : NO WAY should you drive it for a few minutes. The cylinder walls will turn : red hot and the engine will seize and be destroyed. : : 30 seconds MAXIMUM without coolant for my vehicles. : : Tom : : "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message : news:9EGLb.52125$AAe1.35813@news01.bloor.is.net.ca ble.rogers.com... : > If the engine is cold to begin with you can drive it for a few minutes : > without trouble. : > -Brian : > : > "aGraham" <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote in message : > news:aarongraham-140E34.16253909012004@corp-radius.supernews.com... : > : I am going to be pulling my radiator tomorrow to take it to get fixed. : > : The problem is i then have to move the Jeep out of the shop until I get : > : the radiator back. I have to move the jeep about 30 yds, would it be ok : > : to drive the Jeep this far with out any coolant and the radiator : > : removed? : > : : > : -- : > : o_o_o_o : > : /| ,[_____], : > : |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O- : > : ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_) : > : > : : |
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