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CRWLR 12-02-2003 09:57 PM

Re: Speculation, please?
 
That wasn't the muffler that your charming bride ripped from the bottom of
the car, was it?




"Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:jhbzb.26293$Bk1.24113@fed1read05...
> I blew the back plate out of my muffler once. It was pretty cool. Mike

knows
> what he speaks. As usual ;)
> KH
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3FCD2DE1.45FACC09@sympatico.ca...
> > Spark issues sure cause a banging under the hood!
> >
> > If the unburned gas gets back down the exhaust pipe it will blow up your
> > muffler. Literally!
> >
> > It usually ignites in the header area.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > travis wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm planning on doing a tuneup this weekend to my Jeep, but I don't
> > > quite see how a loose plug wire could cause the problem I have. The
> > > only way I could see it being an igntion problem would be if the
> > > "igniting" happened at the wrong time, like when the intake valve was
> > > still open. The banging sound is coming from underneath the hood.
> > > Just having a loose plug wire could cause the fuel to not get ignited,
> > > but that unburned mixture should still get shoved out of the exhaust
> > > port on the exhaust stroke. It's not like it would "build up" or
> > > accumulate in the cylinder. Just having the ignition cut out and come
> > > back (as far as I know) wouldn't cause a banging sound under the hood.
> > > It would cause a drop in power, but not the banging sound. As always,
> > > I could be missing something here. I hope I can figure out what the
> > > problem is and if/when I do I'll be sure to share what I find with the
> > > group. I appreciate all of the input.
> > > Travis
> > >
> > > On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 17:55:04 -0500, Mike Romain
> > > <romainm@sympatico.ca> shared the following:
> > >
> > > >A loose plug wire will sure cause that.
> > > >
> > > >Mike
> > > >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > >travis wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 16:53:04 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> > > >> <----------@cox.net> shared the following:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Ditto.
> > > >> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > >> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Roy J wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Ignition problem, it's cutting out on at least one cylinder,

when
> > > >> >> it comes back it fires all the unburned gas that has

accumulated.
> > > >> >> Time to change points (if yours has them), cap, rotor, wires,

and
> > > >> >> the ignition module (if you have one)
> > > >>
> > > >> Man, I hope it's that easy.
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Travis
> > > >> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > > >> Happy trails!!!
> > > >> :wq!
> > >
> > > --
> > > Travis
> > > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > > Happy trails!!!
> > > :wq!

>
>



travis 12-03-2003 06:45 AM

Re: Speculation, please?
 
On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 19:27:13 -0500, Mike Romain
<romainm@sympatico.ca> shared the following:

>Spark issues sure cause a banging under the hood!
>
>If the unburned gas gets back down the exhaust pipe it will blow up your
>muffler. Literally!
>
>It usually ignites in the header area.


Hmm... That makes sense...and...everybody keeps asking me if it's an
explosion type of sound or a mechanical//metallic sound and I keep
saying that it's really hard to say. That would sort of explain it if
it was an explosion that was happening inside of my header since I
would hear the explosion but at the same time those thin-walled
headers already give off that distinctive metallic sound just from
regular exhaust gasses going through them. Hmm... Thanks, Mike.
Travis

>
>Mike
>
>travis wrote:
>>
>> I'm planning on doing a tuneup this weekend to my Jeep, but I don't
>> quite see how a loose plug wire could cause the problem I have. The
>> only way I could see it being an igntion problem would be if the
>> "igniting" happened at the wrong time, like when the intake valve was
>> still open. The banging sound is coming from underneath the hood.
>> Just having a loose plug wire could cause the fuel to not get ignited,
>> but that unburned mixture should still get shoved out of the exhaust
>> port on the exhaust stroke. It's not like it would "build up" or
>> accumulate in the cylinder. Just having the ignition cut out and come
>> back (as far as I know) wouldn't cause a banging sound under the hood.
>> It would cause a drop in power, but not the banging sound. As always,
>> I could be missing something here. I hope I can figure out what the
>> problem is and if/when I do I'll be sure to share what I find with the
>> group. I appreciate all of the input.
>> Travis
>>
>> On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 17:55:04 -0500, Mike Romain
>> <romainm@sympatico.ca> shared the following:
>>
>> >A loose plug wire will sure cause that.
>> >
>> >Mike
>> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> >travis wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 16:53:04 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
>> >> <----------@cox.net> shared the following:
>> >>
>> >> > Ditto.
>> >> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> >> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >> >
>> >> >Roy J wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Ignition problem, it's cutting out on at least one cylinder, when
>> >> >> it comes back it fires all the unburned gas that has accumulated.
>> >> >> Time to change points (if yours has them), cap, rotor, wires, and
>> >> >> the ignition module (if you have one)
>> >>
>> >> Man, I hope it's that easy.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Travis
>> >> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
>> >> Happy trails!!!
>> >> :wq!

>>
>> --
>> Travis
>> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
>> Happy trails!!!
>> :wq!



--
Travis
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
Happy trails!!!
:wq!

travis 12-03-2003 06:45 AM

Re: Speculation, please?
 
On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 19:27:13 -0500, Mike Romain
<romainm@sympatico.ca> shared the following:

>Spark issues sure cause a banging under the hood!
>
>If the unburned gas gets back down the exhaust pipe it will blow up your
>muffler. Literally!
>
>It usually ignites in the header area.


Hmm... That makes sense...and...everybody keeps asking me if it's an
explosion type of sound or a mechanical//metallic sound and I keep
saying that it's really hard to say. That would sort of explain it if
it was an explosion that was happening inside of my header since I
would hear the explosion but at the same time those thin-walled
headers already give off that distinctive metallic sound just from
regular exhaust gasses going through them. Hmm... Thanks, Mike.
Travis

>
>Mike
>
>travis wrote:
>>
>> I'm planning on doing a tuneup this weekend to my Jeep, but I don't
>> quite see how a loose plug wire could cause the problem I have. The
>> only way I could see it being an igntion problem would be if the
>> "igniting" happened at the wrong time, like when the intake valve was
>> still open. The banging sound is coming from underneath the hood.
>> Just having a loose plug wire could cause the fuel to not get ignited,
>> but that unburned mixture should still get shoved out of the exhaust
>> port on the exhaust stroke. It's not like it would "build up" or
>> accumulate in the cylinder. Just having the ignition cut out and come
>> back (as far as I know) wouldn't cause a banging sound under the hood.
>> It would cause a drop in power, but not the banging sound. As always,
>> I could be missing something here. I hope I can figure out what the
>> problem is and if/when I do I'll be sure to share what I find with the
>> group. I appreciate all of the input.
>> Travis
>>
>> On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 17:55:04 -0500, Mike Romain
>> <romainm@sympatico.ca> shared the following:
>>
>> >A loose plug wire will sure cause that.
>> >
>> >Mike
>> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> >travis wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 16:53:04 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
>> >> <----------@cox.net> shared the following:
>> >>
>> >> > Ditto.
>> >> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> >> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >> >
>> >> >Roy J wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Ignition problem, it's cutting out on at least one cylinder, when
>> >> >> it comes back it fires all the unburned gas that has accumulated.
>> >> >> Time to change points (if yours has them), cap, rotor, wires, and
>> >> >> the ignition module (if you have one)
>> >>
>> >> Man, I hope it's that easy.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Travis
>> >> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
>> >> Happy trails!!!
>> >> :wq!

>>
>> --
>> Travis
>> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
>> Happy trails!!!
>> :wq!



--
Travis
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
Happy trails!!!
:wq!

travis 12-03-2003 06:45 AM

Re: Speculation, please?
 
On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 19:27:13 -0500, Mike Romain
<romainm@sympatico.ca> shared the following:

>Spark issues sure cause a banging under the hood!
>
>If the unburned gas gets back down the exhaust pipe it will blow up your
>muffler. Literally!
>
>It usually ignites in the header area.


Hmm... That makes sense...and...everybody keeps asking me if it's an
explosion type of sound or a mechanical//metallic sound and I keep
saying that it's really hard to say. That would sort of explain it if
it was an explosion that was happening inside of my header since I
would hear the explosion but at the same time those thin-walled
headers already give off that distinctive metallic sound just from
regular exhaust gasses going through them. Hmm... Thanks, Mike.
Travis

>
>Mike
>
>travis wrote:
>>
>> I'm planning on doing a tuneup this weekend to my Jeep, but I don't
>> quite see how a loose plug wire could cause the problem I have. The
>> only way I could see it being an igntion problem would be if the
>> "igniting" happened at the wrong time, like when the intake valve was
>> still open. The banging sound is coming from underneath the hood.
>> Just having a loose plug wire could cause the fuel to not get ignited,
>> but that unburned mixture should still get shoved out of the exhaust
>> port on the exhaust stroke. It's not like it would "build up" or
>> accumulate in the cylinder. Just having the ignition cut out and come
>> back (as far as I know) wouldn't cause a banging sound under the hood.
>> It would cause a drop in power, but not the banging sound. As always,
>> I could be missing something here. I hope I can figure out what the
>> problem is and if/when I do I'll be sure to share what I find with the
>> group. I appreciate all of the input.
>> Travis
>>
>> On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 17:55:04 -0500, Mike Romain
>> <romainm@sympatico.ca> shared the following:
>>
>> >A loose plug wire will sure cause that.
>> >
>> >Mike
>> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> >travis wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 16:53:04 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
>> >> <----------@cox.net> shared the following:
>> >>
>> >> > Ditto.
>> >> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> >> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >> >
>> >> >Roy J wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Ignition problem, it's cutting out on at least one cylinder, when
>> >> >> it comes back it fires all the unburned gas that has accumulated.
>> >> >> Time to change points (if yours has them), cap, rotor, wires, and
>> >> >> the ignition module (if you have one)
>> >>
>> >> Man, I hope it's that easy.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Travis
>> >> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
>> >> Happy trails!!!
>> >> :wq!

>>
>> --
>> Travis
>> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
>> Happy trails!!!
>> :wq!



--
Travis
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
Happy trails!!!
:wq!

Kevin in San Diego 12-03-2003 02:55 PM

Re: Speculation, please?
 
LOL, nope. Come to think of it, I've gone through quite a few mufflers over
the years.
KH

"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vsqkm3r95tnp35@corp.supernews.com...
> That wasn't the muffler that your charming bride ripped from the bottom of
> the car, was it?
>
>
>
>
> "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:jhbzb.26293$Bk1.24113@fed1read05...
> > I blew the back plate out of my muffler once. It was pretty cool. Mike

> knows
> > what he speaks. As usual ;)
> > KH
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3FCD2DE1.45FACC09@sympatico.ca...
> > > Spark issues sure cause a banging under the hood!
> > >
> > > If the unburned gas gets back down the exhaust pipe it will blow up

your
> > > muffler. Literally!
> > >
> > > It usually ignites in the header area.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > travis wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm planning on doing a tuneup this weekend to my Jeep, but I don't
> > > > quite see how a loose plug wire could cause the problem I have. The
> > > > only way I could see it being an igntion problem would be if the
> > > > "igniting" happened at the wrong time, like when the intake valve

was
> > > > still open. The banging sound is coming from underneath the hood.
> > > > Just having a loose plug wire could cause the fuel to not get

ignited,
> > > > but that unburned mixture should still get shoved out of the exhaust
> > > > port on the exhaust stroke. It's not like it would "build up" or
> > > > accumulate in the cylinder. Just having the ignition cut out and

come
> > > > back (as far as I know) wouldn't cause a banging sound under the

hood.
> > > > It would cause a drop in power, but not the banging sound. As

always,
> > > > I could be missing something here. I hope I can figure out what the
> > > > problem is and if/when I do I'll be sure to share what I find with

the
> > > > group. I appreciate all of the input.
> > > > Travis
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 17:55:04 -0500, Mike Romain
> > > > <romainm@sympatico.ca> shared the following:
> > > >
> > > > >A loose plug wire will sure cause that.
> > > > >
> > > > >Mike
> > > > >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > >
> > > > >travis wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 16:53:04 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> > > > >> <----------@cox.net> shared the following:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > Ditto.
> > > > >> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > >> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >Roy J wrote:
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> Ignition problem, it's cutting out on at least one cylinder,

> when
> > > > >> >> it comes back it fires all the unburned gas that has

> accumulated.
> > > > >> >> Time to change points (if yours has them), cap, rotor, wires,

> and
> > > > >> >> the ignition module (if you have one)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Man, I hope it's that easy.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> Travis
> > > > >> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > > > >> Happy trails!!!
> > > > >> :wq!
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Travis
> > > > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > > > Happy trails!!!
> > > > :wq!

> >
> >

>




Kevin in San Diego 12-03-2003 02:55 PM

Re: Speculation, please?
 
LOL, nope. Come to think of it, I've gone through quite a few mufflers over
the years.
KH

"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vsqkm3r95tnp35@corp.supernews.com...
> That wasn't the muffler that your charming bride ripped from the bottom of
> the car, was it?
>
>
>
>
> "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:jhbzb.26293$Bk1.24113@fed1read05...
> > I blew the back plate out of my muffler once. It was pretty cool. Mike

> knows
> > what he speaks. As usual ;)
> > KH
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3FCD2DE1.45FACC09@sympatico.ca...
> > > Spark issues sure cause a banging under the hood!
> > >
> > > If the unburned gas gets back down the exhaust pipe it will blow up

your
> > > muffler. Literally!
> > >
> > > It usually ignites in the header area.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > travis wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm planning on doing a tuneup this weekend to my Jeep, but I don't
> > > > quite see how a loose plug wire could cause the problem I have. The
> > > > only way I could see it being an igntion problem would be if the
> > > > "igniting" happened at the wrong time, like when the intake valve

was
> > > > still open. The banging sound is coming from underneath the hood.
> > > > Just having a loose plug wire could cause the fuel to not get

ignited,
> > > > but that unburned mixture should still get shoved out of the exhaust
> > > > port on the exhaust stroke. It's not like it would "build up" or
> > > > accumulate in the cylinder. Just having the ignition cut out and

come
> > > > back (as far as I know) wouldn't cause a banging sound under the

hood.
> > > > It would cause a drop in power, but not the banging sound. As

always,
> > > > I could be missing something here. I hope I can figure out what the
> > > > problem is and if/when I do I'll be sure to share what I find with

the
> > > > group. I appreciate all of the input.
> > > > Travis
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 17:55:04 -0500, Mike Romain
> > > > <romainm@sympatico.ca> shared the following:
> > > >
> > > > >A loose plug wire will sure cause that.
> > > > >
> > > > >Mike
> > > > >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > >
> > > > >travis wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 16:53:04 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> > > > >> <----------@cox.net> shared the following:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > Ditto.
> > > > >> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > >> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >Roy J wrote:
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> Ignition problem, it's cutting out on at least one cylinder,

> when
> > > > >> >> it comes back it fires all the unburned gas that has

> accumulated.
> > > > >> >> Time to change points (if yours has them), cap, rotor, wires,

> and
> > > > >> >> the ignition module (if you have one)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Man, I hope it's that easy.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> Travis
> > > > >> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > > > >> Happy trails!!!
> > > > >> :wq!
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Travis
> > > > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > > > Happy trails!!!
> > > > :wq!

> >
> >

>




Kevin in San Diego 12-03-2003 02:55 PM

Re: Speculation, please?
 
LOL, nope. Come to think of it, I've gone through quite a few mufflers over
the years.
KH

"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vsqkm3r95tnp35@corp.supernews.com...
> That wasn't the muffler that your charming bride ripped from the bottom of
> the car, was it?
>
>
>
>
> "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:jhbzb.26293$Bk1.24113@fed1read05...
> > I blew the back plate out of my muffler once. It was pretty cool. Mike

> knows
> > what he speaks. As usual ;)
> > KH
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3FCD2DE1.45FACC09@sympatico.ca...
> > > Spark issues sure cause a banging under the hood!
> > >
> > > If the unburned gas gets back down the exhaust pipe it will blow up

your
> > > muffler. Literally!
> > >
> > > It usually ignites in the header area.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > travis wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm planning on doing a tuneup this weekend to my Jeep, but I don't
> > > > quite see how a loose plug wire could cause the problem I have. The
> > > > only way I could see it being an igntion problem would be if the
> > > > "igniting" happened at the wrong time, like when the intake valve

was
> > > > still open. The banging sound is coming from underneath the hood.
> > > > Just having a loose plug wire could cause the fuel to not get

ignited,
> > > > but that unburned mixture should still get shoved out of the exhaust
> > > > port on the exhaust stroke. It's not like it would "build up" or
> > > > accumulate in the cylinder. Just having the ignition cut out and

come
> > > > back (as far as I know) wouldn't cause a banging sound under the

hood.
> > > > It would cause a drop in power, but not the banging sound. As

always,
> > > > I could be missing something here. I hope I can figure out what the
> > > > problem is and if/when I do I'll be sure to share what I find with

the
> > > > group. I appreciate all of the input.
> > > > Travis
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 17:55:04 -0500, Mike Romain
> > > > <romainm@sympatico.ca> shared the following:
> > > >
> > > > >A loose plug wire will sure cause that.
> > > > >
> > > > >Mike
> > > > >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > >
> > > > >travis wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 16:53:04 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> > > > >> <----------@cox.net> shared the following:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > Ditto.
> > > > >> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > >> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >Roy J wrote:
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> Ignition problem, it's cutting out on at least one cylinder,

> when
> > > > >> >> it comes back it fires all the unburned gas that has

> accumulated.
> > > > >> >> Time to change points (if yours has them), cap, rotor, wires,

> and
> > > > >> >> the ignition module (if you have one)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Man, I hope it's that easy.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> Travis
> > > > >> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > > > >> Happy trails!!!
> > > > >> :wq!
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Travis
> > > > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > > > Happy trails!!!
> > > > :wq!

> >
> >

>




Richard J Kinch 12-03-2003 06:15 PM

Re: Speculation, please?
 
L.W.(ßill) ------ III writes:

> http://100megsfree4.com/...


Citing this doesn't make you look good.

Richard J Kinch 12-03-2003 06:15 PM

Re: Speculation, please?
 
L.W.(ßill) ------ III writes:

> http://100megsfree4.com/...


Citing this doesn't make you look good.

Richard J Kinch 12-03-2003 06:15 PM

Re: Speculation, please?
 
L.W.(ßill) ------ III writes:

> http://100megsfree4.com/...


Citing this doesn't make you look good.


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