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Outatime 11-01-2006 09:26 PM

Re: spark plugs
 
Thomas Waldron wrote:

> Odd that a guy who changes his coolant out twice a year and does oil
> changes before 600 miles, and spark plugs every 3500 miles, would
> consider an extra buck or so per spark plug a waste of money. Wow!! :)
> :) :) :)
>
> I've got dibs on Outatime's Jeep!!


LOL! After posting, I discovered the irony. The point I wanted to make
was that a $1.00 copper plug won't perform any better or last any longer
than a $8.00 double-plat when changed out yearly. I'd much rather spend
that extra money on increased oil change intervals, 2X/yr. coolant
changes, and that sort of thing.

I will tell you though, after 2 years, it still looks and runs like new.
I use only M1 synthetic, PureOne filters, and Zerex G-05 coolant with
distilled water. If you pop the hood, the engine absolutely sparkles.
Zero corrosion or residue in the radiator. I even go to the trouble of
'priming' the engine to full running pressure before firing after an
oil/filter change. (No one ever does this anymore.) Whoever gets this
wonderful TJL after I'm done with it will be very happy indeed.


Outatime 11-01-2006 09:26 PM

Re: spark plugs
 
Thomas Waldron wrote:

> Odd that a guy who changes his coolant out twice a year and does oil
> changes before 600 miles, and spark plugs every 3500 miles, would
> consider an extra buck or so per spark plug a waste of money. Wow!! :)
> :) :) :)
>
> I've got dibs on Outatime's Jeep!!


LOL! After posting, I discovered the irony. The point I wanted to make
was that a $1.00 copper plug won't perform any better or last any longer
than a $8.00 double-plat when changed out yearly. I'd much rather spend
that extra money on increased oil change intervals, 2X/yr. coolant
changes, and that sort of thing.

I will tell you though, after 2 years, it still looks and runs like new.
I use only M1 synthetic, PureOne filters, and Zerex G-05 coolant with
distilled water. If you pop the hood, the engine absolutely sparkles.
Zero corrosion or residue in the radiator. I even go to the trouble of
'priming' the engine to full running pressure before firing after an
oil/filter change. (No one ever does this anymore.) Whoever gets this
wonderful TJL after I'm done with it will be very happy indeed.


Outatime 11-01-2006 09:26 PM

Re: spark plugs
 
Thomas Waldron wrote:

> Odd that a guy who changes his coolant out twice a year and does oil
> changes before 600 miles, and spark plugs every 3500 miles, would
> consider an extra buck or so per spark plug a waste of money. Wow!! :)
> :) :) :)
>
> I've got dibs on Outatime's Jeep!!


LOL! After posting, I discovered the irony. The point I wanted to make
was that a $1.00 copper plug won't perform any better or last any longer
than a $8.00 double-plat when changed out yearly. I'd much rather spend
that extra money on increased oil change intervals, 2X/yr. coolant
changes, and that sort of thing.

I will tell you though, after 2 years, it still looks and runs like new.
I use only M1 synthetic, PureOne filters, and Zerex G-05 coolant with
distilled water. If you pop the hood, the engine absolutely sparkles.
Zero corrosion or residue in the radiator. I even go to the trouble of
'priming' the engine to full running pressure before firing after an
oil/filter change. (No one ever does this anymore.) Whoever gets this
wonderful TJL after I'm done with it will be very happy indeed.


Thomas Waldron 11-02-2006 06:45 AM

Re: spark plugs
 
Outatime wrote:
> Thomas Waldron wrote:
>
>> Odd that a guy who changes his coolant out twice a year and does oil
>> changes before 600 miles, and spark plugs every 3500 miles, would
>> consider an extra buck or so per spark plug a waste of money. Wow!! :)
>> :) :) :)
>>
>> I've got dibs on Outatime's Jeep!!

>
>
> LOL! After posting, I discovered the irony. The point I wanted to make
> was that a $1.00 copper plug won't perform any better or last any longer
> than a $8.00 double-plat when changed out yearly. I'd much rather spend
> that extra money on increased oil change intervals, 2X/yr. coolant
> changes, and that sort of thing.
>
> I will tell you though, after 2 years, it still looks and runs like new.
> I use only M1 synthetic, PureOne filters, and Zerex G-05 coolant with
> distilled water. If you pop the hood, the engine absolutely sparkles.
> Zero corrosion or residue in the radiator. I even go to the trouble of
> 'priming' the engine to full running pressure before firing after an
> oil/filter change. (No one ever does this anymore.) Whoever gets this
> wonderful TJL after I'm done with it will be very happy indeed.
>


I knew what you meant, just thought it was funny.

.....and like I said, "DIBS!!" ;)

tw
--
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

Thomas Waldron 11-02-2006 06:45 AM

Re: spark plugs
 
Outatime wrote:
> Thomas Waldron wrote:
>
>> Odd that a guy who changes his coolant out twice a year and does oil
>> changes before 600 miles, and spark plugs every 3500 miles, would
>> consider an extra buck or so per spark plug a waste of money. Wow!! :)
>> :) :) :)
>>
>> I've got dibs on Outatime's Jeep!!

>
>
> LOL! After posting, I discovered the irony. The point I wanted to make
> was that a $1.00 copper plug won't perform any better or last any longer
> than a $8.00 double-plat when changed out yearly. I'd much rather spend
> that extra money on increased oil change intervals, 2X/yr. coolant
> changes, and that sort of thing.
>
> I will tell you though, after 2 years, it still looks and runs like new.
> I use only M1 synthetic, PureOne filters, and Zerex G-05 coolant with
> distilled water. If you pop the hood, the engine absolutely sparkles.
> Zero corrosion or residue in the radiator. I even go to the trouble of
> 'priming' the engine to full running pressure before firing after an
> oil/filter change. (No one ever does this anymore.) Whoever gets this
> wonderful TJL after I'm done with it will be very happy indeed.
>


I knew what you meant, just thought it was funny.

.....and like I said, "DIBS!!" ;)

tw
--
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

Thomas Waldron 11-02-2006 06:45 AM

Re: spark plugs
 
Outatime wrote:
> Thomas Waldron wrote:
>
>> Odd that a guy who changes his coolant out twice a year and does oil
>> changes before 600 miles, and spark plugs every 3500 miles, would
>> consider an extra buck or so per spark plug a waste of money. Wow!! :)
>> :) :) :)
>>
>> I've got dibs on Outatime's Jeep!!

>
>
> LOL! After posting, I discovered the irony. The point I wanted to make
> was that a $1.00 copper plug won't perform any better or last any longer
> than a $8.00 double-plat when changed out yearly. I'd much rather spend
> that extra money on increased oil change intervals, 2X/yr. coolant
> changes, and that sort of thing.
>
> I will tell you though, after 2 years, it still looks and runs like new.
> I use only M1 synthetic, PureOne filters, and Zerex G-05 coolant with
> distilled water. If you pop the hood, the engine absolutely sparkles.
> Zero corrosion or residue in the radiator. I even go to the trouble of
> 'priming' the engine to full running pressure before firing after an
> oil/filter change. (No one ever does this anymore.) Whoever gets this
> wonderful TJL after I'm done with it will be very happy indeed.
>


I knew what you meant, just thought it was funny.

.....and like I said, "DIBS!!" ;)

tw
--
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

mabar 11-02-2006 08:15 AM

Re: spark plugs
 
Wow! You change your coolant twice a year? In your original email I thought
you said bi-yearly, and I thought that meant every other year. I just
changed the coolant on my one year old '06 Wrangler, and I plan to change it
once a year, every fall in the future. It seems like twice a year is way
overkill.

The OEM, NGK-ZFR5N plugs that I finally bought are $2.98 each.

http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductD...pe=960&ptset=A

Tom

"Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
news:ZLadnd7mlolPytTYnZ2dnUVZ_vmdnZ2d@softcom.net. ..
snip
>
> LOL! After posting, I discovered the irony. The point I wanted to make
> was that a $1.00 copper plug won't perform any better or last any longer
> than a $8.00 double-plat when changed out yearly. I'd much rather spend
> that extra money on increased oil change intervals, 2X/yr. coolant
> changes, and that sort of thing.
>
> I will tell you though, after 2 years, it still looks and runs like new.
> I use only M1 synthetic, PureOne filters, and Zerex G-05 coolant with
> distilled water. If you pop the hood, the engine absolutely sparkles.
> Zero corrosion or residue in the radiator. I even go to the trouble of
> 'priming' the engine to full running pressure before firing after an
> oil/filter change. (No one ever does this anymore.) Whoever gets this
> wonderful TJL after I'm done with it will be very happy indeed.
>




mabar 11-02-2006 08:15 AM

Re: spark plugs
 
Wow! You change your coolant twice a year? In your original email I thought
you said bi-yearly, and I thought that meant every other year. I just
changed the coolant on my one year old '06 Wrangler, and I plan to change it
once a year, every fall in the future. It seems like twice a year is way
overkill.

The OEM, NGK-ZFR5N plugs that I finally bought are $2.98 each.

http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductD...pe=960&ptset=A

Tom

"Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
news:ZLadnd7mlolPytTYnZ2dnUVZ_vmdnZ2d@softcom.net. ..
snip
>
> LOL! After posting, I discovered the irony. The point I wanted to make
> was that a $1.00 copper plug won't perform any better or last any longer
> than a $8.00 double-plat when changed out yearly. I'd much rather spend
> that extra money on increased oil change intervals, 2X/yr. coolant
> changes, and that sort of thing.
>
> I will tell you though, after 2 years, it still looks and runs like new.
> I use only M1 synthetic, PureOne filters, and Zerex G-05 coolant with
> distilled water. If you pop the hood, the engine absolutely sparkles.
> Zero corrosion or residue in the radiator. I even go to the trouble of
> 'priming' the engine to full running pressure before firing after an
> oil/filter change. (No one ever does this anymore.) Whoever gets this
> wonderful TJL after I'm done with it will be very happy indeed.
>




mabar 11-02-2006 08:15 AM

Re: spark plugs
 
Wow! You change your coolant twice a year? In your original email I thought
you said bi-yearly, and I thought that meant every other year. I just
changed the coolant on my one year old '06 Wrangler, and I plan to change it
once a year, every fall in the future. It seems like twice a year is way
overkill.

The OEM, NGK-ZFR5N plugs that I finally bought are $2.98 each.

http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductD...pe=960&ptset=A

Tom

"Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
news:ZLadnd7mlolPytTYnZ2dnUVZ_vmdnZ2d@softcom.net. ..
snip
>
> LOL! After posting, I discovered the irony. The point I wanted to make
> was that a $1.00 copper plug won't perform any better or last any longer
> than a $8.00 double-plat when changed out yearly. I'd much rather spend
> that extra money on increased oil change intervals, 2X/yr. coolant
> changes, and that sort of thing.
>
> I will tell you though, after 2 years, it still looks and runs like new.
> I use only M1 synthetic, PureOne filters, and Zerex G-05 coolant with
> distilled water. If you pop the hood, the engine absolutely sparkles.
> Zero corrosion or residue in the radiator. I even go to the trouble of
> 'priming' the engine to full running pressure before firing after an
> oil/filter change. (No one ever does this anymore.) Whoever gets this
> wonderful TJL after I'm done with it will be very happy indeed.
>




Outatime 11-02-2006 08:27 PM

Re: spark plugs
 
mabar wrote:

> Wow! You change your coolant twice a year? In your original email I thought
> you said bi-yearly, and I thought that meant every other year. I just
> changed the coolant on my one year old '06 Wrangler, and I plan to change it
> once a year, every fall in the future. It seems like twice a year is way
> overkill.
>
> The OEM, NGK-ZFR5N plugs that I finally bought are $2.98 each.


I may have misspoke; I meant bi-annually, or 2X/yr. In another vehicle,
I changed it yearly, and was surprised at the junk that came out. I've
always been of the opinion that OEM technical writers generally
understate realistic maintenance intervals for the sake of increased
vehicle sales. Conspiricy theorists will probably agree with me too.

$20 bucks for a set of plugs isn't bad. If you place the OEM next to a
Champion 438, they're nearly identical. I've used the Champion 4412
Truck Plugs which use beefier electrodes than OEM's, but that's the only
difference I could see. In the real world, the gap eroded and worn just
as much as any other plug I've used.


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