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Old Crow 06-13-2004 07:14 AM

Soft top life?
 
Howdy all,
I've got a '95 YJ with the original factory top...9 years and 180,000
miles
My wife's got a '94 YJ that has a Steelhorse replacement top on it(was
that way when we bought it) at 10 years and 170,000 miles.

My top is still in fairly good shape, just a couple of the snaps
busted above the doors.
The stupid Steelhorse top on my wife's jeep is ---- and, since I
ordered the Besttop Replace-a-Top yesterday, is headed for the
shitcan(It'd already be there if'n it'd quit raining).

I didn't buy the cheapo, and I didn't buy the sailcloth, high dollar
jobbie, but from what I can tell, the mid-priced Besttop brand
replace-a-top is equivalent to the original factory top.

Anyway, I was wondering what the average life you guys are getting out
of the factory top is? I realize theres a lot of different factors
that effect top life, but I'm just sorta taking a very unscientific
poll here.
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51

Mike Romain 06-13-2004 09:59 AM

Re: Soft top life?
 
I still have the original 86 Witco soft top on my CJ7. I have changed
some snaps and have had friends crack a couple windows by being
'helpful' in the winter, but it is still hanging in there.

It is time to refresh it or replace it though. It has served it life
out well.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Old Crow wrote:
>
> Howdy all,
> I've got a '95 YJ with the original factory top...9 years and 180,000
> miles
> My wife's got a '94 YJ that has a Steelhorse replacement top on it(was
> that way when we bought it) at 10 years and 170,000 miles.
>
> My top is still in fairly good shape, just a couple of the snaps
> busted above the doors.
> The stupid Steelhorse top on my wife's jeep is ---- and, since I
> ordered the Besttop Replace-a-Top yesterday, is headed for the
> shitcan(It'd already be there if'n it'd quit raining).
>
> I didn't buy the cheapo, and I didn't buy the sailcloth, high dollar
> jobbie, but from what I can tell, the mid-priced Besttop brand
> replace-a-top is equivalent to the original factory top.
>
> Anyway, I was wondering what the average life you guys are getting out
> of the factory top is? I realize theres a lot of different factors
> that effect top life, but I'm just sorta taking a very unscientific
> poll here.
> --
> Old Crow
> '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
> '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
> ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
> TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51


Mike Romain 06-13-2004 09:59 AM

Re: Soft top life?
 
I still have the original 86 Witco soft top on my CJ7. I have changed
some snaps and have had friends crack a couple windows by being
'helpful' in the winter, but it is still hanging in there.

It is time to refresh it or replace it though. It has served it life
out well.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Old Crow wrote:
>
> Howdy all,
> I've got a '95 YJ with the original factory top...9 years and 180,000
> miles
> My wife's got a '94 YJ that has a Steelhorse replacement top on it(was
> that way when we bought it) at 10 years and 170,000 miles.
>
> My top is still in fairly good shape, just a couple of the snaps
> busted above the doors.
> The stupid Steelhorse top on my wife's jeep is ---- and, since I
> ordered the Besttop Replace-a-Top yesterday, is headed for the
> shitcan(It'd already be there if'n it'd quit raining).
>
> I didn't buy the cheapo, and I didn't buy the sailcloth, high dollar
> jobbie, but from what I can tell, the mid-priced Besttop brand
> replace-a-top is equivalent to the original factory top.
>
> Anyway, I was wondering what the average life you guys are getting out
> of the factory top is? I realize theres a lot of different factors
> that effect top life, but I'm just sorta taking a very unscientific
> poll here.
> --
> Old Crow
> '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
> '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
> ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
> TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51


Mike Romain 06-13-2004 09:59 AM

Re: Soft top life?
 
I still have the original 86 Witco soft top on my CJ7. I have changed
some snaps and have had friends crack a couple windows by being
'helpful' in the winter, but it is still hanging in there.

It is time to refresh it or replace it though. It has served it life
out well.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Old Crow wrote:
>
> Howdy all,
> I've got a '95 YJ with the original factory top...9 years and 180,000
> miles
> My wife's got a '94 YJ that has a Steelhorse replacement top on it(was
> that way when we bought it) at 10 years and 170,000 miles.
>
> My top is still in fairly good shape, just a couple of the snaps
> busted above the doors.
> The stupid Steelhorse top on my wife's jeep is ---- and, since I
> ordered the Besttop Replace-a-Top yesterday, is headed for the
> shitcan(It'd already be there if'n it'd quit raining).
>
> I didn't buy the cheapo, and I didn't buy the sailcloth, high dollar
> jobbie, but from what I can tell, the mid-priced Besttop brand
> replace-a-top is equivalent to the original factory top.
>
> Anyway, I was wondering what the average life you guys are getting out
> of the factory top is? I realize theres a lot of different factors
> that effect top life, but I'm just sorta taking a very unscientific
> poll here.
> --
> Old Crow
> '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
> '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
> ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
> TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51


Mike Romain 06-13-2004 09:59 AM

Re: Soft top life?
 
I still have the original 86 Witco soft top on my CJ7. I have changed
some snaps and have had friends crack a couple windows by being
'helpful' in the winter, but it is still hanging in there.

It is time to refresh it or replace it though. It has served it life
out well.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Old Crow wrote:
>
> Howdy all,
> I've got a '95 YJ with the original factory top...9 years and 180,000
> miles
> My wife's got a '94 YJ that has a Steelhorse replacement top on it(was
> that way when we bought it) at 10 years and 170,000 miles.
>
> My top is still in fairly good shape, just a couple of the snaps
> busted above the doors.
> The stupid Steelhorse top on my wife's jeep is ---- and, since I
> ordered the Besttop Replace-a-Top yesterday, is headed for the
> shitcan(It'd already be there if'n it'd quit raining).
>
> I didn't buy the cheapo, and I didn't buy the sailcloth, high dollar
> jobbie, but from what I can tell, the mid-priced Besttop brand
> replace-a-top is equivalent to the original factory top.
>
> Anyway, I was wondering what the average life you guys are getting out
> of the factory top is? I realize theres a lot of different factors
> that effect top life, but I'm just sorta taking a very unscientific
> poll here.
> --
> Old Crow
> '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
> '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
> ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
> TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51


Tirya 06-13-2004 11:44 AM

Re: Soft top life?
 
I just replaced my '99 soft top, but that was because it had developed a tear
at 110,000 miles. I had some issues with stitching that popped in a couple of
places, but aside from that, it was sound. It does wear well, and the tear
that developed was my own fault. I personally just put on the Sailcloth RAT
from Bestop, and the difference in noise reduction between it and the '99
factory top is INCREDIBLE.

Tirya
--
TDC Inca Jeeper
"The painkillers are rather good, actually..."

"Old Crow" <walliscrow@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:23doc09i42febpm4b08uv6008qvfp9bnjs@4ax.com...
> Howdy all,
> I've got a '95 YJ with the original factory top...9 years and 180,000
> miles
> My wife's got a '94 YJ that has a Steelhorse replacement top on it(was
> that way when we bought it) at 10 years and 170,000 miles.
>
> My top is still in fairly good shape, just a couple of the snaps
> busted above the doors.
> The stupid Steelhorse top on my wife's jeep is ---- and, since I
> ordered the Besttop Replace-a-Top yesterday, is headed for the
> shitcan(It'd already be there if'n it'd quit raining).
>
> I didn't buy the cheapo, and I didn't buy the sailcloth, high dollar
> jobbie, but from what I can tell, the mid-priced Besttop brand
> replace-a-top is equivalent to the original factory top.
>
> Anyway, I was wondering what the average life you guys are getting out
> of the factory top is? I realize theres a lot of different factors
> that effect top life, but I'm just sorta taking a very unscientific
> poll here.
> --
> Old Crow
> '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
> '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
> ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
> TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51




Tirya 06-13-2004 11:44 AM

Re: Soft top life?
 
I just replaced my '99 soft top, but that was because it had developed a tear
at 110,000 miles. I had some issues with stitching that popped in a couple of
places, but aside from that, it was sound. It does wear well, and the tear
that developed was my own fault. I personally just put on the Sailcloth RAT
from Bestop, and the difference in noise reduction between it and the '99
factory top is INCREDIBLE.

Tirya
--
TDC Inca Jeeper
"The painkillers are rather good, actually..."

"Old Crow" <walliscrow@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:23doc09i42febpm4b08uv6008qvfp9bnjs@4ax.com...
> Howdy all,
> I've got a '95 YJ with the original factory top...9 years and 180,000
> miles
> My wife's got a '94 YJ that has a Steelhorse replacement top on it(was
> that way when we bought it) at 10 years and 170,000 miles.
>
> My top is still in fairly good shape, just a couple of the snaps
> busted above the doors.
> The stupid Steelhorse top on my wife's jeep is ---- and, since I
> ordered the Besttop Replace-a-Top yesterday, is headed for the
> shitcan(It'd already be there if'n it'd quit raining).
>
> I didn't buy the cheapo, and I didn't buy the sailcloth, high dollar
> jobbie, but from what I can tell, the mid-priced Besttop brand
> replace-a-top is equivalent to the original factory top.
>
> Anyway, I was wondering what the average life you guys are getting out
> of the factory top is? I realize theres a lot of different factors
> that effect top life, but I'm just sorta taking a very unscientific
> poll here.
> --
> Old Crow
> '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
> '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
> ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
> TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51




Tirya 06-13-2004 11:44 AM

Re: Soft top life?
 
I just replaced my '99 soft top, but that was because it had developed a tear
at 110,000 miles. I had some issues with stitching that popped in a couple of
places, but aside from that, it was sound. It does wear well, and the tear
that developed was my own fault. I personally just put on the Sailcloth RAT
from Bestop, and the difference in noise reduction between it and the '99
factory top is INCREDIBLE.

Tirya
--
TDC Inca Jeeper
"The painkillers are rather good, actually..."

"Old Crow" <walliscrow@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:23doc09i42febpm4b08uv6008qvfp9bnjs@4ax.com...
> Howdy all,
> I've got a '95 YJ with the original factory top...9 years and 180,000
> miles
> My wife's got a '94 YJ that has a Steelhorse replacement top on it(was
> that way when we bought it) at 10 years and 170,000 miles.
>
> My top is still in fairly good shape, just a couple of the snaps
> busted above the doors.
> The stupid Steelhorse top on my wife's jeep is ---- and, since I
> ordered the Besttop Replace-a-Top yesterday, is headed for the
> shitcan(It'd already be there if'n it'd quit raining).
>
> I didn't buy the cheapo, and I didn't buy the sailcloth, high dollar
> jobbie, but from what I can tell, the mid-priced Besttop brand
> replace-a-top is equivalent to the original factory top.
>
> Anyway, I was wondering what the average life you guys are getting out
> of the factory top is? I realize theres a lot of different factors
> that effect top life, but I'm just sorta taking a very unscientific
> poll here.
> --
> Old Crow
> '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
> '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
> ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
> TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51




Tirya 06-13-2004 11:44 AM

Re: Soft top life?
 
I just replaced my '99 soft top, but that was because it had developed a tear
at 110,000 miles. I had some issues with stitching that popped in a couple of
places, but aside from that, it was sound. It does wear well, and the tear
that developed was my own fault. I personally just put on the Sailcloth RAT
from Bestop, and the difference in noise reduction between it and the '99
factory top is INCREDIBLE.

Tirya
--
TDC Inca Jeeper
"The painkillers are rather good, actually..."

"Old Crow" <walliscrow@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:23doc09i42febpm4b08uv6008qvfp9bnjs@4ax.com...
> Howdy all,
> I've got a '95 YJ with the original factory top...9 years and 180,000
> miles
> My wife's got a '94 YJ that has a Steelhorse replacement top on it(was
> that way when we bought it) at 10 years and 170,000 miles.
>
> My top is still in fairly good shape, just a couple of the snaps
> busted above the doors.
> The stupid Steelhorse top on my wife's jeep is ---- and, since I
> ordered the Besttop Replace-a-Top yesterday, is headed for the
> shitcan(It'd already be there if'n it'd quit raining).
>
> I didn't buy the cheapo, and I didn't buy the sailcloth, high dollar
> jobbie, but from what I can tell, the mid-priced Besttop brand
> replace-a-top is equivalent to the original factory top.
>
> Anyway, I was wondering what the average life you guys are getting out
> of the factory top is? I realize theres a lot of different factors
> that effect top life, but I'm just sorta taking a very unscientific
> poll here.
> --
> Old Crow
> '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
> '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
> ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
> TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51




Lee Ayrton 06-13-2004 12:35 PM

Re: Soft top life?
 

My own experience has been that in Connecticut (hot, humid summers and
wet, sandy, salty winters), ungaraged, Besttop is good for about 7 years
before you start replacing snaps and about 9 years before the windows go
and the thread rots. I'm on my third Besttop and I think that that's not
a bad life span for the abuse it takes. The cost works out to about two
cups of coffee a month.


On Sun, 13 Jun 2004, Old Crow wrote:

> I've got a '95 YJ with the original factory top...9 years and 180,000
> miles
> My wife's got a '94 YJ that has a Steelhorse replacement top on it(was
> that way when we bought it) at 10 years and 170,000 miles.
>
> My top is still in fairly good shape, just a couple of the snaps
> busted above the doors.
> The stupid Steelhorse top on my wife's jeep is ---- and, since I
> ordered the Besttop Replace-a-Top yesterday, is headed for the
> shitcan(It'd already be there if'n it'd quit raining).
>
> I didn't buy the cheapo, and I didn't buy the sailcloth, high dollar
> jobbie, but from what I can tell, the mid-priced Besttop brand
> replace-a-top is equivalent to the original factory top.
>
> Anyway, I was wondering what the average life you guys are getting out
> of the factory top is? I realize theres a lot of different factors
> that effect top life, but I'm just sorta taking a very unscientific
> poll here.
> --
> Old Crow
> '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
> '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
> ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
> TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
>



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