So how big a job is it?
 

1994 Jeep Cherokee XJ, 120K, 2WD, 5 speed.

Noticed what I'll call a "rumble" coming from the engine today.
Sounded kind of like when my Catalytic Converter's insides cracked.
Similar sort of rattle.

Stuck my head under the drivers side door, and the sound seems to be
coming from the bell housing. I know my clutch lives in here, as does
my throw-out bearing, and I think this bearing is making the noise.
Not sure how long I've got before it gives out entirely.

I had the clutch done at about 65K, primarily because the throw-out
bearing had popped off the fork. Job cost me around a grand. This
close to Christmas, I don't really have that kind of money so toying
with the idea of doing the following myself.

1) replacing the clutch.
2) replacing the throw-out bearing.
3) maybe replace flywheel
4) while its all apart, the main seal (leaks a bit).

I've done this job before on an old front wheel drive Nissan, and it
was pretty straight forward, but never on a rear wheel drive car, and
never with such heavy chunks of metal over my head.

I'm reasonably mechanical, but no mechanic. I have no lift, no special
tools, no compressor. Am I asking for trouble considering doing this
job myself?

Thanks much.

S.

Re: So how big a job is it?
 

Well I hav'nt done a clutch yet, put you will have to move the tranny
back , since you have no lift will need jackstands and a tranny jack.
You will aslo need 1/2 inch drive sockets and a breaker bar. You may
need reverse torx head sockets and some large 1/2 drive sockets

I'm not sure what you meant about "special tools" but the above items
are pretty basic.
I'm sure others who have done this job can be more specific.

I say buy the tools and go for it. Use the labor fees to buy the tools
you need which you then can use on other projects.


fraser...@yahoo.com wrote:
> 1994 Jeep Cherokee XJ, 120K, 2WD, 5 speed.
>
> Noticed what I'll call a "rumble" coming from the engine today.
> Sounded kind of like when my Catalytic Converter's insides cracked.
> Similar sort of rattle.
>
> Stuck my head under the drivers side door, and the sound seems to be
> coming from the bell housing. I know my clutch lives in here, as does
> my throw-out bearing, and I think this bearing is making the noise.
> Not sure how long I've got before it gives out entirely.
>
> I had the clutch done at about 65K, primarily because the throw-out
> bearing had popped off the fork. Job cost me around a grand. This
> close to Christmas, I don't really have that kind of money so toying
> with the idea of doing the following myself.
>
> 1) replacing the clutch.
> 2) replacing the throw-out bearing.
> 3) maybe replace flywheel
> 4) while its all apart, the main seal (leaks a bit).
>
> I've done this job before on an old front wheel drive Nissan, and it
> was pretty straight forward, but never on a rear wheel drive car, and
> never with such heavy chunks of metal over my head.
>
> I'm reasonably mechanical, but no mechanic. I have no lift, no special
> tools, no compressor. Am I asking for trouble considering doing this
> job myself?
>
> Thanks much.
>
> S.

Re: So how big a job is it?
 

Well I hav'nt done a clutch yet, put you will have to move the tranny
back , since you have no lift will need jackstands and a tranny jack.
You will aslo need 1/2 inch drive sockets and a breaker bar. You may
need reverse torx head sockets and some large 1/2 drive sockets

I'm not sure what you meant about "special tools" but the above items
are pretty basic.
I'm sure others who have done this job can be more specific.

I say buy the tools and go for it. Use the labor fees to buy the tools
you need which you then can use on other projects.


fraser...@yahoo.com wrote:
> 1994 Jeep Cherokee XJ, 120K, 2WD, 5 speed.
>
> Noticed what I'll call a "rumble" coming from the engine today.
> Sounded kind of like when my Catalytic Converter's insides cracked.
> Similar sort of rattle.
>
> Stuck my head under the drivers side door, and the sound seems to be
> coming from the bell housing. I know my clutch lives in here, as does
> my throw-out bearing, and I think this bearing is making the noise.
> Not sure how long I've got before it gives out entirely.
>
> I had the clutch done at about 65K, primarily because the throw-out
> bearing had popped off the fork. Job cost me around a grand. This
> close to Christmas, I don't really have that kind of money so toying
> with the idea of doing the following myself.
>
> 1) replacing the clutch.
> 2) replacing the throw-out bearing.
> 3) maybe replace flywheel
> 4) while its all apart, the main seal (leaks a bit).
>
> I've done this job before on an old front wheel drive Nissan, and it
> was pretty straight forward, but never on a rear wheel drive car, and
> never with such heavy chunks of metal over my head.
>
> I'm reasonably mechanical, but no mechanic. I have no lift, no special
> tools, no compressor. Am I asking for trouble considering doing this
> job myself?
>
> Thanks much.
>
> S.

Re: So how big a job is it?
 

Well I hav'nt done a clutch yet, put you will have to move the tranny
back , since you have no lift will need jackstands and a tranny jack.
You will aslo need 1/2 inch drive sockets and a breaker bar. You may
need reverse torx head sockets and some large 1/2 drive sockets

I'm not sure what you meant about "special tools" but the above items
are pretty basic.
I'm sure others who have done this job can be more specific.

I say buy the tools and go for it. Use the labor fees to buy the tools
you need which you then can use on other projects.


fraser...@yahoo.com wrote:
> 1994 Jeep Cherokee XJ, 120K, 2WD, 5 speed.
>
> Noticed what I'll call a "rumble" coming from the engine today.
> Sounded kind of like when my Catalytic Converter's insides cracked.
> Similar sort of rattle.
>
> Stuck my head under the drivers side door, and the sound seems to be
> coming from the bell housing. I know my clutch lives in here, as does
> my throw-out bearing, and I think this bearing is making the noise.
> Not sure how long I've got before it gives out entirely.
>
> I had the clutch done at about 65K, primarily because the throw-out
> bearing had popped off the fork. Job cost me around a grand. This
> close to Christmas, I don't really have that kind of money so toying
> with the idea of doing the following myself.
>
> 1) replacing the clutch.
> 2) replacing the throw-out bearing.
> 3) maybe replace flywheel
> 4) while its all apart, the main seal (leaks a bit).
>
> I've done this job before on an old front wheel drive Nissan, and it
> was pretty straight forward, but never on a rear wheel drive car, and
> never with such heavy chunks of metal over my head.
>
> I'm reasonably mechanical, but no mechanic. I have no lift, no special
> tools, no compressor. Am I asking for trouble considering doing this
> job myself?
>
> Thanks much.
>
> S.

Re: So how big a job is it?
 

To check the throwout bearing, listen to it with the engine running,
clutch pedal in, clutch pedal out. If it makes noise with the clutch in,
it's likely the throwout bearing. If it makes noise in neutral and
clutch out, it's likely the input shaft bearing.

Yours has the extenal slave so you shouldn't need to mess with the
hydraulic clutch system. You should be able to get the clutch plate,
clutch disk, and throwout bearing for around $160 at NAPA

Yours is 2wd, you don't have to deal with the 85 pound transfercase. For
someone that has done it several times before, about 4 hours start to
finish. For a newbie, a long day or maybe a weekend.

Adding in the rear seal guarantees the weekend. Are you SURE it is the
rear seal and not the valve cover gasket seal?

Tools are a decent hydraulic floor jack, at least two and preferably 4
jackstands, a concrete floor to work on, and basic 3/8" and 1/2" SAE
socket sets. The transmission can be wrestled out and in with two guys,
not a lot of fun. Rent a transmission jack if you have any doubts.

fraserwag@yahoo.com wrote:
> 1994 Jeep Cherokee XJ, 120K, 2WD, 5 speed.
>
> Noticed what I'll call a "rumble" coming from the engine today.
> Sounded kind of like when my Catalytic Converter's insides cracked.
> Similar sort of rattle.
>
> Stuck my head under the drivers side door, and the sound seems to be
> coming from the bell housing. I know my clutch lives in here, as does
> my throw-out bearing, and I think this bearing is making the noise.
> Not sure how long I've got before it gives out entirely.
>
> I had the clutch done at about 65K, primarily because the throw-out
> bearing had popped off the fork. Job cost me around a grand. This
> close to Christmas, I don't really have that kind of money so toying
> with the idea of doing the following myself.
>
> 1) replacing the clutch.
> 2) replacing the throw-out bearing.
> 3) maybe replace flywheel
> 4) while its all apart, the main seal (leaks a bit).
>
> I've done this job before on an old front wheel drive Nissan, and it
> was pretty straight forward, but never on a rear wheel drive car, and
> never with such heavy chunks of metal over my head.
>
> I'm reasonably mechanical, but no mechanic. I have no lift, no special
> tools, no compressor. Am I asking for trouble considering doing this
> job myself?
>
> Thanks much.
>
> S.
>

Re: So how big a job is it?
 

To check the throwout bearing, listen to it with the engine running,
clutch pedal in, clutch pedal out. If it makes noise with the clutch in,
it's likely the throwout bearing. If it makes noise in neutral and
clutch out, it's likely the input shaft bearing.

Yours has the extenal slave so you shouldn't need to mess with the
hydraulic clutch system. You should be able to get the clutch plate,
clutch disk, and throwout bearing for around $160 at NAPA

Yours is 2wd, you don't have to deal with the 85 pound transfercase. For
someone that has done it several times before, about 4 hours start to
finish. For a newbie, a long day or maybe a weekend.

Adding in the rear seal guarantees the weekend. Are you SURE it is the
rear seal and not the valve cover gasket seal?

Tools are a decent hydraulic floor jack, at least two and preferably 4
jackstands, a concrete floor to work on, and basic 3/8" and 1/2" SAE
socket sets. The transmission can be wrestled out and in with two guys,
not a lot of fun. Rent a transmission jack if you have any doubts.

fraserwag@yahoo.com wrote:
> 1994 Jeep Cherokee XJ, 120K, 2WD, 5 speed.
>
> Noticed what I'll call a "rumble" coming from the engine today.
> Sounded kind of like when my Catalytic Converter's insides cracked.
> Similar sort of rattle.
>
> Stuck my head under the drivers side door, and the sound seems to be
> coming from the bell housing. I know my clutch lives in here, as does
> my throw-out bearing, and I think this bearing is making the noise.
> Not sure how long I've got before it gives out entirely.
>
> I had the clutch done at about 65K, primarily because the throw-out
> bearing had popped off the fork. Job cost me around a grand. This
> close to Christmas, I don't really have that kind of money so toying
> with the idea of doing the following myself.
>
> 1) replacing the clutch.
> 2) replacing the throw-out bearing.
> 3) maybe replace flywheel
> 4) while its all apart, the main seal (leaks a bit).
>
> I've done this job before on an old front wheel drive Nissan, and it
> was pretty straight forward, but never on a rear wheel drive car, and
> never with such heavy chunks of metal over my head.
>
> I'm reasonably mechanical, but no mechanic. I have no lift, no special
> tools, no compressor. Am I asking for trouble considering doing this
> job myself?
>
> Thanks much.
>
> S.
>

Re: So how big a job is it?
 

To check the throwout bearing, listen to it with the engine running,
clutch pedal in, clutch pedal out. If it makes noise with the clutch in,
it's likely the throwout bearing. If it makes noise in neutral and
clutch out, it's likely the input shaft bearing.

Yours has the extenal slave so you shouldn't need to mess with the
hydraulic clutch system. You should be able to get the clutch plate,
clutch disk, and throwout bearing for around $160 at NAPA

Yours is 2wd, you don't have to deal with the 85 pound transfercase. For
someone that has done it several times before, about 4 hours start to
finish. For a newbie, a long day or maybe a weekend.

Adding in the rear seal guarantees the weekend. Are you SURE it is the
rear seal and not the valve cover gasket seal?

Tools are a decent hydraulic floor jack, at least two and preferably 4
jackstands, a concrete floor to work on, and basic 3/8" and 1/2" SAE
socket sets. The transmission can be wrestled out and in with two guys,
not a lot of fun. Rent a transmission jack if you have any doubts.

fraserwag@yahoo.com wrote:
> 1994 Jeep Cherokee XJ, 120K, 2WD, 5 speed.
>
> Noticed what I'll call a "rumble" coming from the engine today.
> Sounded kind of like when my Catalytic Converter's insides cracked.
> Similar sort of rattle.
>
> Stuck my head under the drivers side door, and the sound seems to be
> coming from the bell housing. I know my clutch lives in here, as does
> my throw-out bearing, and I think this bearing is making the noise.
> Not sure how long I've got before it gives out entirely.
>
> I had the clutch done at about 65K, primarily because the throw-out
> bearing had popped off the fork. Job cost me around a grand. This
> close to Christmas, I don't really have that kind of money so toying
> with the idea of doing the following myself.
>
> 1) replacing the clutch.
> 2) replacing the throw-out bearing.
> 3) maybe replace flywheel
> 4) while its all apart, the main seal (leaks a bit).
>
> I've done this job before on an old front wheel drive Nissan, and it
> was pretty straight forward, but never on a rear wheel drive car, and
> never with such heavy chunks of metal over my head.
>
> I'm reasonably mechanical, but no mechanic. I have no lift, no special
> tools, no compressor. Am I asking for trouble considering doing this
> job myself?
>
> Thanks much.
>
> S.
>

Re: So how big a job is it?
 

If you've done a clutch in a FWD care a 2wd Jeep ought to be a breeze,
that transmission is a lot simpler than a trans axle.

It's really not hard, but get a manual and follow the directions.

I've cast iron case T-86 in an out of my Studebaker pickup more times
than I'm willing to admit, and I've done it on a gravel drive way by
myself, so you ought to be able to do this!

Jeff DeWitt

RoyJ wrote:
> To check the throwout bearing, listen to it with the engine running,
> clutch pedal in, clutch pedal out. If it makes noise with the clutch in,
> it's likely the throwout bearing. If it makes noise in neutral and
> clutch out, it's likely the input shaft bearing.
>
> Yours has the extenal slave so you shouldn't need to mess with the
> hydraulic clutch system. You should be able to get the clutch plate,
> clutch disk, and throwout bearing for around $160 at NAPA
>
> Yours is 2wd, you don't have to deal with the 85 pound transfercase. For
> someone that has done it several times before, about 4 hours start to
> finish. For a newbie, a long day or maybe a weekend.
>
> Adding in the rear seal guarantees the weekend. Are you SURE it is the
> rear seal and not the valve cover gasket seal?
>
> Tools are a decent hydraulic floor jack, at least two and preferably 4
> jackstands, a concrete floor to work on, and basic 3/8" and 1/2" SAE
> socket sets. The transmission can be wrestled out and in with two guys,
> not a lot of fun. Rent a transmission jack if you have any doubts.
>
> fraserwag@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> 1994 Jeep Cherokee XJ, 120K, 2WD, 5 speed.
>>
>> Noticed what I'll call a "rumble" coming from the engine today.
>> Sounded kind of like when my Catalytic Converter's insides cracked.
>> Similar sort of rattle.
>>
>> Stuck my head under the drivers side door, and the sound seems to be
>> coming from the bell housing. I know my clutch lives in here, as does
>> my throw-out bearing, and I think this bearing is making the noise.
>> Not sure how long I've got before it gives out entirely.
>>
>> I had the clutch done at about 65K, primarily because the throw-out
>> bearing had popped off the fork. Job cost me around a grand. This
>> close to Christmas, I don't really have that kind of money so toying
>> with the idea of doing the following myself.
>>
>> 1) replacing the clutch.
>> 2) replacing the throw-out bearing.
>> 3) maybe replace flywheel
>> 4) while its all apart, the main seal (leaks a bit).
>>
>> I've done this job before on an old front wheel drive Nissan, and it
>> was pretty straight forward, but never on a rear wheel drive car, and
>> never with such heavy chunks of metal over my head.
>>
>> I'm reasonably mechanical, but no mechanic. I have no lift, no special
>> tools, no compressor. Am I asking for trouble considering doing this
>> job myself?
>> Thanks much.
>>
>> S.
>>

Re: So how big a job is it?
 

If you've done a clutch in a FWD care a 2wd Jeep ought to be a breeze,
that transmission is a lot simpler than a trans axle.

It's really not hard, but get a manual and follow the directions.

I've cast iron case T-86 in an out of my Studebaker pickup more times
than I'm willing to admit, and I've done it on a gravel drive way by
myself, so you ought to be able to do this!

Jeff DeWitt

RoyJ wrote:
> To check the throwout bearing, listen to it with the engine running,
> clutch pedal in, clutch pedal out. If it makes noise with the clutch in,
> it's likely the throwout bearing. If it makes noise in neutral and
> clutch out, it's likely the input shaft bearing.
>
> Yours has the extenal slave so you shouldn't need to mess with the
> hydraulic clutch system. You should be able to get the clutch plate,
> clutch disk, and throwout bearing for around $160 at NAPA
>
> Yours is 2wd, you don't have to deal with the 85 pound transfercase. For
> someone that has done it several times before, about 4 hours start to
> finish. For a newbie, a long day or maybe a weekend.
>
> Adding in the rear seal guarantees the weekend. Are you SURE it is the
> rear seal and not the valve cover gasket seal?
>
> Tools are a decent hydraulic floor jack, at least two and preferably 4
> jackstands, a concrete floor to work on, and basic 3/8" and 1/2" SAE
> socket sets. The transmission can be wrestled out and in with two guys,
> not a lot of fun. Rent a transmission jack if you have any doubts.
>
> fraserwag@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> 1994 Jeep Cherokee XJ, 120K, 2WD, 5 speed.
>>
>> Noticed what I'll call a "rumble" coming from the engine today.
>> Sounded kind of like when my Catalytic Converter's insides cracked.
>> Similar sort of rattle.
>>
>> Stuck my head under the drivers side door, and the sound seems to be
>> coming from the bell housing. I know my clutch lives in here, as does
>> my throw-out bearing, and I think this bearing is making the noise.
>> Not sure how long I've got before it gives out entirely.
>>
>> I had the clutch done at about 65K, primarily because the throw-out
>> bearing had popped off the fork. Job cost me around a grand. This
>> close to Christmas, I don't really have that kind of money so toying
>> with the idea of doing the following myself.
>>
>> 1) replacing the clutch.
>> 2) replacing the throw-out bearing.
>> 3) maybe replace flywheel
>> 4) while its all apart, the main seal (leaks a bit).
>>
>> I've done this job before on an old front wheel drive Nissan, and it
>> was pretty straight forward, but never on a rear wheel drive car, and
>> never with such heavy chunks of metal over my head.
>>
>> I'm reasonably mechanical, but no mechanic. I have no lift, no special
>> tools, no compressor. Am I asking for trouble considering doing this
>> job myself?
>> Thanks much.
>>
>> S.
>>

Re: So how big a job is it?
 

If you've done a clutch in a FWD care a 2wd Jeep ought to be a breeze,
that transmission is a lot simpler than a trans axle.

It's really not hard, but get a manual and follow the directions.

I've cast iron case T-86 in an out of my Studebaker pickup more times
than I'm willing to admit, and I've done it on a gravel drive way by
myself, so you ought to be able to do this!

Jeff DeWitt

RoyJ wrote:
> To check the throwout bearing, listen to it with the engine running,
> clutch pedal in, clutch pedal out. If it makes noise with the clutch in,
> it's likely the throwout bearing. If it makes noise in neutral and
> clutch out, it's likely the input shaft bearing.
>
> Yours has the extenal slave so you shouldn't need to mess with the
> hydraulic clutch system. You should be able to get the clutch plate,
> clutch disk, and throwout bearing for around $160 at NAPA
>
> Yours is 2wd, you don't have to deal with the 85 pound transfercase. For
> someone that has done it several times before, about 4 hours start to
> finish. For a newbie, a long day or maybe a weekend.
>
> Adding in the rear seal guarantees the weekend. Are you SURE it is the
> rear seal and not the valve cover gasket seal?
>
> Tools are a decent hydraulic floor jack, at least two and preferably 4
> jackstands, a concrete floor to work on, and basic 3/8" and 1/2" SAE
> socket sets. The transmission can be wrestled out and in with two guys,
> not a lot of fun. Rent a transmission jack if you have any doubts.
>
> fraserwag@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> 1994 Jeep Cherokee XJ, 120K, 2WD, 5 speed.
>>
>> Noticed what I'll call a "rumble" coming from the engine today.
>> Sounded kind of like when my Catalytic Converter's insides cracked.
>> Similar sort of rattle.
>>
>> Stuck my head under the drivers side door, and the sound seems to be
>> coming from the bell housing. I know my clutch lives in here, as does
>> my throw-out bearing, and I think this bearing is making the noise.
>> Not sure how long I've got before it gives out entirely.
>>
>> I had the clutch done at about 65K, primarily because the throw-out
>> bearing had popped off the fork. Job cost me around a grand. This
>> close to Christmas, I don't really have that kind of money so toying
>> with the idea of doing the following myself.
>>
>> 1) replacing the clutch.
>> 2) replacing the throw-out bearing.
>> 3) maybe replace flywheel
>> 4) while its all apart, the main seal (leaks a bit).
>>
>> I've done this job before on an old front wheel drive Nissan, and it
>> was pretty straight forward, but never on a rear wheel drive car, and
>> never with such heavy chunks of metal over my head.
>>
>> I'm reasonably mechanical, but no mechanic. I have no lift, no special
>> tools, no compressor. Am I asking for trouble considering doing this
>> job myself?
>> Thanks much.
>>
>> S.
>>