Re: Snapped off an exhaust bolt
> Yeah, I realized the WD40 is not the best for rust.
Not the best? More like completely useless against rusted bolts. It's nowhere near as effective a penetrant as Kroil, Liquid Wrench or PB Blaster. Nor is it a decent lubricant. It's not even all that great as a water deterent compared to using stuff like Boeshield. What helps the most when using actual penetrating oils is time. Put some on it and let it sit for a couple hours. Then tap it lightly with a hammer several times and reapply the oil. Repeat. The vibration caused by the hammer will help loosen the rust bond, thus making room for more oil to penetrate. Repeating the process often helps get enough of it loosened to back it out. Like someone else said, with quite a screeching sound. > Do I replace it with a headless bolt (do they have a proper term for these), > screwed in from underneath? They're called exhaust studs. Any auto parts place should carry them. -Bill Kearney |
Re: Snapped off an exhaust bolt
hmmm
Might I add that having a positive attitude along with saying a little prayer during the operation has usually helped me during these rare occasions. <g> Since you have enough meat on the stud then the torch along with the vise-grip pliers WILL work. Like the others said heat up the area up around the stud, try to get it to budge even JUST A LITTLE with the vise grips is good. Then when it cools down some you can spray it with some good rust penetrant. There will be smoke and noxious gas so please work in a well ventilated place along with having a fire extinguisher handy. Work it back and forth taking care not to break it again. Use plenty of the penetrant while working it back and forth. It it gets stuck again use the torch to heat it back up and repeat. Heat is one of my best tools on rusted nuts and bolts! ;-) -- later, dave AKA vwdoc1 |
Re: Snapped off an exhaust bolt
hmmm
Might I add that having a positive attitude along with saying a little prayer during the operation has usually helped me during these rare occasions. <g> Since you have enough meat on the stud then the torch along with the vise-grip pliers WILL work. Like the others said heat up the area up around the stud, try to get it to budge even JUST A LITTLE with the vise grips is good. Then when it cools down some you can spray it with some good rust penetrant. There will be smoke and noxious gas so please work in a well ventilated place along with having a fire extinguisher handy. Work it back and forth taking care not to break it again. Use plenty of the penetrant while working it back and forth. It it gets stuck again use the torch to heat it back up and repeat. Heat is one of my best tools on rusted nuts and bolts! ;-) -- later, dave AKA vwdoc1 |
Re: Snapped off an exhaust bolt
hmmm
Might I add that having a positive attitude along with saying a little prayer during the operation has usually helped me during these rare occasions. <g> Since you have enough meat on the stud then the torch along with the vise-grip pliers WILL work. Like the others said heat up the area up around the stud, try to get it to budge even JUST A LITTLE with the vise grips is good. Then when it cools down some you can spray it with some good rust penetrant. There will be smoke and noxious gas so please work in a well ventilated place along with having a fire extinguisher handy. Work it back and forth taking care not to break it again. Use plenty of the penetrant while working it back and forth. It it gets stuck again use the torch to heat it back up and repeat. Heat is one of my best tools on rusted nuts and bolts! ;-) -- later, dave AKA vwdoc1 |
Re: Snapped off an exhaust bolt
hmmm
Might I add that having a positive attitude along with saying a little prayer during the operation has usually helped me during these rare occasions. <g> Since you have enough meat on the stud then the torch along with the vise-grip pliers WILL work. Like the others said heat up the area up around the stud, try to get it to budge even JUST A LITTLE with the vise grips is good. Then when it cools down some you can spray it with some good rust penetrant. There will be smoke and noxious gas so please work in a well ventilated place along with having a fire extinguisher handy. Work it back and forth taking care not to break it again. Use plenty of the penetrant while working it back and forth. It it gets stuck again use the torch to heat it back up and repeat. Heat is one of my best tools on rusted nuts and bolts! ;-) -- later, dave AKA vwdoc1 |
Re: Snapped off an exhaust bolt
wb writes:
> Should I > be able to unscrew it from the manifold fitting, assuming I get it hot > enough and soak it enough with the right kind of lubricant? No. It's a splined press-fit stud like on a wheel hub, not a threaded fastener. You have to press it out (if the assembly is on a workbench) or drill it out (if the assembly is on the car). Forget the advice from the more-macho-than-thou types about rusty bolt extraction. |
Re: Snapped off an exhaust bolt
wb writes:
> Should I > be able to unscrew it from the manifold fitting, assuming I get it hot > enough and soak it enough with the right kind of lubricant? No. It's a splined press-fit stud like on a wheel hub, not a threaded fastener. You have to press it out (if the assembly is on a workbench) or drill it out (if the assembly is on the car). Forget the advice from the more-macho-than-thou types about rusty bolt extraction. |
Re: Snapped off an exhaust bolt
wb writes:
> Should I > be able to unscrew it from the manifold fitting, assuming I get it hot > enough and soak it enough with the right kind of lubricant? No. It's a splined press-fit stud like on a wheel hub, not a threaded fastener. You have to press it out (if the assembly is on a workbench) or drill it out (if the assembly is on the car). Forget the advice from the more-macho-than-thou types about rusty bolt extraction. |
Re: Snapped off an exhaust bolt
wb writes:
> Should I > be able to unscrew it from the manifold fitting, assuming I get it hot > enough and soak it enough with the right kind of lubricant? No. It's a splined press-fit stud like on a wheel hub, not a threaded fastener. You have to press it out (if the assembly is on a workbench) or drill it out (if the assembly is on the car). Forget the advice from the more-macho-than-thou types about rusty bolt extraction. |
Re: Snapped off an exhaust bolt
Richard J Kinch wrote:
> wb writes: > >> Should I >> be able to unscrew it from the manifold fitting, assuming I get it hot >> enough and soak it enough with the right kind of lubricant? > > No. It's a splined press-fit stud like on a wheel hub, not a threaded > fastener. You have to press it out (if the assembly is on a workbench) or > drill it out (if the assembly is on the car). Forget the advice from the > more-macho-than-thou types about rusty bolt extraction. Since when? I have removed more exhaust studs than I care to remember over the years and have 'never' seen or heard of a pressed fit exhaust stud in any vehicle I have been exposed to. I also have removed a couple 80's YJ ones... The replacements come in kits with the special brass nuts. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) |
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