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wedontdoit@hotmail.com 12-10-2005 07:13 PM

Re: Slipping in 4x4 low
 
Oops... guess that really wasn't such a good test then huh? I normally
only do run the 4x4 in snow or off road - my bad :-).
Thought since this Jeep was new to me, we should check and see if the
original binding sensation would repeat itself in 4x4 mode....then
discovered the slipping and was concerned.

Any clues as to the originally binding noise/feeling during the drive
on the curved road surface?

Thanks for everyone's input - very helpful guys!

Sheila
Vancouver BC


Mike Romain 12-10-2005 08:13 PM

Re: Slipping in 4x4 low
 
If the rear axle has a slip joint, maybe it needs grease.

Wouldn't hurt to put it in neutral, block the wheels and check the
u-joints out. They make a clunk though.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

wedontdoit@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> Oops... guess that really wasn't such a good test then huh? I normally
> only do run the 4x4 in snow or off road - my bad :-).
> Thought since this Jeep was new to me, we should check and see if the
> original binding sensation would repeat itself in 4x4 mode....then
> discovered the slipping and was concerned.
>
> Any clues as to the originally binding noise/feeling during the drive
> on the curved road surface?
>
> Thanks for everyone's input - very helpful guys!
>
> Sheila
> Vancouver BC


Mike Romain 12-10-2005 08:13 PM

Re: Slipping in 4x4 low
 
If the rear axle has a slip joint, maybe it needs grease.

Wouldn't hurt to put it in neutral, block the wheels and check the
u-joints out. They make a clunk though.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

wedontdoit@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> Oops... guess that really wasn't such a good test then huh? I normally
> only do run the 4x4 in snow or off road - my bad :-).
> Thought since this Jeep was new to me, we should check and see if the
> original binding sensation would repeat itself in 4x4 mode....then
> discovered the slipping and was concerned.
>
> Any clues as to the originally binding noise/feeling during the drive
> on the curved road surface?
>
> Thanks for everyone's input - very helpful guys!
>
> Sheila
> Vancouver BC


Mike Romain 12-10-2005 08:13 PM

Re: Slipping in 4x4 low
 
If the rear axle has a slip joint, maybe it needs grease.

Wouldn't hurt to put it in neutral, block the wheels and check the
u-joints out. They make a clunk though.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

wedontdoit@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> Oops... guess that really wasn't such a good test then huh? I normally
> only do run the 4x4 in snow or off road - my bad :-).
> Thought since this Jeep was new to me, we should check and see if the
> original binding sensation would repeat itself in 4x4 mode....then
> discovered the slipping and was concerned.
>
> Any clues as to the originally binding noise/feeling during the drive
> on the curved road surface?
>
> Thanks for everyone's input - very helpful guys!
>
> Sheila
> Vancouver BC


Matt Macchiarolo 12-10-2005 09:20 PM

Re: Slipping in 4x4 low
 
Yikes. Part Time 4x4 , Hi or Low, is not for use on dry pavement. What you
are feeling is the transfer case binding. Stop before you break something.

<wedontdoit@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1134254276.281099.209850@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> >From: Jerry Bransford <jerr...@cox.net> -
>>
>>You're not by any chance feeling/hearing those symptoms while you are
>>driving on pavement are you?
>>

>
>
> Yes, it's on dry pavement. I first noticed what felt like binding in
> the rear, as I was stuck in a very long traffic jam (45 minutes of
> inching forward around a bend, up on a curved roadway), that would
> disappear as I shifted out of low (1-2 Automatic Transmission), into
> neutral. It went away as the road flattened out, but we decided to
> check all the gears, and that's when this was noticed. I never noticed
> it on the last 98 Cherokee Sport I had.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Sheila
> Vancouver BC
>




Matt Macchiarolo 12-10-2005 09:20 PM

Re: Slipping in 4x4 low
 
Yikes. Part Time 4x4 , Hi or Low, is not for use on dry pavement. What you
are feeling is the transfer case binding. Stop before you break something.

<wedontdoit@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1134254276.281099.209850@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> >From: Jerry Bransford <jerr...@cox.net> -
>>
>>You're not by any chance feeling/hearing those symptoms while you are
>>driving on pavement are you?
>>

>
>
> Yes, it's on dry pavement. I first noticed what felt like binding in
> the rear, as I was stuck in a very long traffic jam (45 minutes of
> inching forward around a bend, up on a curved roadway), that would
> disappear as I shifted out of low (1-2 Automatic Transmission), into
> neutral. It went away as the road flattened out, but we decided to
> check all the gears, and that's when this was noticed. I never noticed
> it on the last 98 Cherokee Sport I had.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Sheila
> Vancouver BC
>




Matt Macchiarolo 12-10-2005 09:20 PM

Re: Slipping in 4x4 low
 
Yikes. Part Time 4x4 , Hi or Low, is not for use on dry pavement. What you
are feeling is the transfer case binding. Stop before you break something.

<wedontdoit@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1134254276.281099.209850@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> >From: Jerry Bransford <jerr...@cox.net> -
>>
>>You're not by any chance feeling/hearing those symptoms while you are
>>driving on pavement are you?
>>

>
>
> Yes, it's on dry pavement. I first noticed what felt like binding in
> the rear, as I was stuck in a very long traffic jam (45 minutes of
> inching forward around a bend, up on a curved roadway), that would
> disappear as I shifted out of low (1-2 Automatic Transmission), into
> neutral. It went away as the road flattened out, but we decided to
> check all the gears, and that's when this was noticed. I never noticed
> it on the last 98 Cherokee Sport I had.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Sheila
> Vancouver BC
>




Matt Macchiarolo 12-10-2005 09:21 PM

Re: Slipping in 4x4 low
 

However Selec Trac doesn't have a full time 4x4 Low position IIRC.

"mabar" <xyzz4567@HotPop.com> wrote in message
news:439b5e03_4@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> The reason Jerry asked about pavement is because if you have Jeep's
> Command
> Trac 4-wheel drive system, it is strictly a part-time system that should
> NEVER be used on dry pavement. The Command Trac system mechanically locks
> the front and rear axels together. Since the front and rear axels turn at
> different speeds, this system must only be used on slippery surfaces, like
> snow, ice, mud, dirt, etc. If used on dry (or even wet) pavement, the
> drivetrain will bind up and cause damage to u-joints, transfer case, etc.
> You will actually feel the tires skidding and hear chirping, especially
> during turns.
>
> If you have Jeep's Select-Trac system, it has a full-time mode which can
> be
> used on any surface, even dry pavement. It also has a part-time mode which
> acts just like Command Trac.
>
> If your transfer case selector lever has a full-time position, you have
> Select-Trac.
>
> Tom
>
>
> <wedontdoit@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1134254276.281099.209850@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> >From: Jerry Bransford <jerr...@cox.net> -
>> >
>> >You're not by any chance feeling/hearing those symptoms while you are
>> >driving on pavement are you?
>> >

>>
>>
>> Yes, it's on dry pavement. I first noticed what felt like binding in
>> the rear, as I was stuck in a very long traffic jam (45 minutes of
>> inching forward around a bend, up on a curved roadway), that would
>> disappear as I shifted out of low (1-2 Automatic Transmission), into
>> neutral. It went away as the road flattened out, but we decided to
>> check all the gears, and that's when this was noticed. I never noticed
>> it on the last 98 Cherokee Sport I had.
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>> Sheila
>> Vancouver BC
>>

>
>




Matt Macchiarolo 12-10-2005 09:21 PM

Re: Slipping in 4x4 low
 

However Selec Trac doesn't have a full time 4x4 Low position IIRC.

"mabar" <xyzz4567@HotPop.com> wrote in message
news:439b5e03_4@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> The reason Jerry asked about pavement is because if you have Jeep's
> Command
> Trac 4-wheel drive system, it is strictly a part-time system that should
> NEVER be used on dry pavement. The Command Trac system mechanically locks
> the front and rear axels together. Since the front and rear axels turn at
> different speeds, this system must only be used on slippery surfaces, like
> snow, ice, mud, dirt, etc. If used on dry (or even wet) pavement, the
> drivetrain will bind up and cause damage to u-joints, transfer case, etc.
> You will actually feel the tires skidding and hear chirping, especially
> during turns.
>
> If you have Jeep's Select-Trac system, it has a full-time mode which can
> be
> used on any surface, even dry pavement. It also has a part-time mode which
> acts just like Command Trac.
>
> If your transfer case selector lever has a full-time position, you have
> Select-Trac.
>
> Tom
>
>
> <wedontdoit@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1134254276.281099.209850@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> >From: Jerry Bransford <jerr...@cox.net> -
>> >
>> >You're not by any chance feeling/hearing those symptoms while you are
>> >driving on pavement are you?
>> >

>>
>>
>> Yes, it's on dry pavement. I first noticed what felt like binding in
>> the rear, as I was stuck in a very long traffic jam (45 minutes of
>> inching forward around a bend, up on a curved roadway), that would
>> disappear as I shifted out of low (1-2 Automatic Transmission), into
>> neutral. It went away as the road flattened out, but we decided to
>> check all the gears, and that's when this was noticed. I never noticed
>> it on the last 98 Cherokee Sport I had.
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>> Sheila
>> Vancouver BC
>>

>
>




Matt Macchiarolo 12-10-2005 09:21 PM

Re: Slipping in 4x4 low
 

However Selec Trac doesn't have a full time 4x4 Low position IIRC.

"mabar" <xyzz4567@HotPop.com> wrote in message
news:439b5e03_4@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> The reason Jerry asked about pavement is because if you have Jeep's
> Command
> Trac 4-wheel drive system, it is strictly a part-time system that should
> NEVER be used on dry pavement. The Command Trac system mechanically locks
> the front and rear axels together. Since the front and rear axels turn at
> different speeds, this system must only be used on slippery surfaces, like
> snow, ice, mud, dirt, etc. If used on dry (or even wet) pavement, the
> drivetrain will bind up and cause damage to u-joints, transfer case, etc.
> You will actually feel the tires skidding and hear chirping, especially
> during turns.
>
> If you have Jeep's Select-Trac system, it has a full-time mode which can
> be
> used on any surface, even dry pavement. It also has a part-time mode which
> acts just like Command Trac.
>
> If your transfer case selector lever has a full-time position, you have
> Select-Trac.
>
> Tom
>
>
> <wedontdoit@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1134254276.281099.209850@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> >From: Jerry Bransford <jerr...@cox.net> -
>> >
>> >You're not by any chance feeling/hearing those symptoms while you are
>> >driving on pavement are you?
>> >

>>
>>
>> Yes, it's on dry pavement. I first noticed what felt like binding in
>> the rear, as I was stuck in a very long traffic jam (45 minutes of
>> inching forward around a bend, up on a curved roadway), that would
>> disappear as I shifted out of low (1-2 Automatic Transmission), into
>> neutral. It went away as the road flattened out, but we decided to
>> check all the gears, and that's when this was noticed. I never noticed
>> it on the last 98 Cherokee Sport I had.
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>> Sheila
>> Vancouver BC
>>

>
>





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