Re: Secure Hard Door Locks
 

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:Ltuod.102066$tU4.64008@okepread06...
> Dave Milne did pass the time by typing:
> > Try this :
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/232777.stm

Definitely one of the fastest ways of finding out if you have a fuel leak.
"OK John, turn them on!" *KABLAM* "Yup, guess you had a fuel leak afterall."

Re: Secure Hard Door Locks
 

I think securing the contents is the best idea--no matter what, the bad guys
can get in by breaking glass. I've got a Tuffy console and glove box after
getting broken into at an airport parking lot. I need something bigger for
more storage--like your ammo box or a bigger Tuffy box. The Bestop
Extendatrunk looks good, but it relys on the tailgate lock and can probably
be broken into as easy as the door.

To help prevent the jeep from being stolen, I've looked at getting tabs
welded on the brake, clutch, and shifter to lock them all together. I'll
need a custom bar made to go between the brake/clutch so I can padlock them
together and that extends to the shifter. I thought about a chain, but it
needs to be solid. Anyone done this before?

I also like the flame thrower/shocker approach. Or a paper bag full of fire
ants above the door that rips open when the passenger door is opened!

Tony

"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:gDfod.301802$nl.229395@pd7tw3no...
> After attempting to get the carriage bolts out from my rear seat to take
> it
> out and realizing that carriage bolts are now my least favourite thing in
> the world, it gave me an idea for making a very theft-resistant security
> box. I'm using a giant military ammo box and bolting it through my stock
> rear seat holes. The carriage bolt rounded end is going to be on the
> underside of the Jeep and the nut will be inside the box ...making it
> pretty
> much impossible to take off from the outside. The box is secured using a
> locksmith padlock and there is a titanium cable wrapped around the box as
> well for extra measure. It sounds extreme but my city has the highest rate
> of property theft per capita in Canada ...mostly vehicle-item theft. The
> stuff in the box is only used for offroading (essential tools, etc) so
> it's
> rare that I'll need to get into it (hopefully! ;p). It would definitely
> take
> awhile to break in ...one would probably have to steal the Jeep and take
> it
> to a garage to get in there. I'm thinking of actually putting a CD player
> in
> there as well with a remote. Haven't fully figured that out yet but I have
> an idea how to make it work well.
>
> But ya ...Jeeps are so easy to break into. I'd worry more about securing
> the
> items in the Jeep rather than trying to keep people out. I can get through
> the back window of a hardtop in under 60 seconds with a portable drill and
> a
> titanium bit while making VERY LITTLE sound. I know from experience
> (didn't
> get the damn key when I bought my hardtop ;p)
>
> Good luck. Sorry about your loss.
>
> --
> griffin
> '85 Jeep CJ-7
> '97 Toyota Corolla SD
>
> "SteveBrady" <steve.brady@(remove this)rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:jaednditf-sJwzzcRVn-pQ@rogers.com...
>> Maybe the guy just wanted the a new duffle bag!
>>
>> If you don't have a hard top then you'll find that it won't matter about
>> your locks.
>> I would just sit with the standard OEm ones....go to the junk yard (not
> sure
>> if you'd find 'new enough' ones there for you year/model).
>>
>> I've got a steel tool box (used to be used to mail documents with my
>> work...back in the day)....it's not huge...but definately would cause
>> them
>> to make more noise to get in to. And they sure as hell won't get far
>> running with it (it's about 100lbs--hate it!).
>
>

Re: Secure Hard Door Locks
 

I think securing the contents is the best idea--no matter what, the bad guys
can get in by breaking glass. I've got a Tuffy console and glove box after
getting broken into at an airport parking lot. I need something bigger for
more storage--like your ammo box or a bigger Tuffy box. The Bestop
Extendatrunk looks good, but it relys on the tailgate lock and can probably
be broken into as easy as the door.

To help prevent the jeep from being stolen, I've looked at getting tabs
welded on the brake, clutch, and shifter to lock them all together. I'll
need a custom bar made to go between the brake/clutch so I can padlock them
together and that extends to the shifter. I thought about a chain, but it
needs to be solid. Anyone done this before?

I also like the flame thrower/shocker approach. Or a paper bag full of fire
ants above the door that rips open when the passenger door is opened!

Tony

"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:gDfod.301802$nl.229395@pd7tw3no...
> After attempting to get the carriage bolts out from my rear seat to take
> it
> out and realizing that carriage bolts are now my least favourite thing in
> the world, it gave me an idea for making a very theft-resistant security
> box. I'm using a giant military ammo box and bolting it through my stock
> rear seat holes. The carriage bolt rounded end is going to be on the
> underside of the Jeep and the nut will be inside the box ...making it
> pretty
> much impossible to take off from the outside. The box is secured using a
> locksmith padlock and there is a titanium cable wrapped around the box as
> well for extra measure. It sounds extreme but my city has the highest rate
> of property theft per capita in Canada ...mostly vehicle-item theft. The
> stuff in the box is only used for offroading (essential tools, etc) so
> it's
> rare that I'll need to get into it (hopefully! ;p). It would definitely
> take
> awhile to break in ...one would probably have to steal the Jeep and take
> it
> to a garage to get in there. I'm thinking of actually putting a CD player
> in
> there as well with a remote. Haven't fully figured that out yet but I have
> an idea how to make it work well.
>
> But ya ...Jeeps are so easy to break into. I'd worry more about securing
> the
> items in the Jeep rather than trying to keep people out. I can get through
> the back window of a hardtop in under 60 seconds with a portable drill and
> a
> titanium bit while making VERY LITTLE sound. I know from experience
> (didn't
> get the damn key when I bought my hardtop ;p)
>
> Good luck. Sorry about your loss.
>
> --
> griffin
> '85 Jeep CJ-7
> '97 Toyota Corolla SD
>
> "SteveBrady" <steve.brady@(remove this)rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:jaednditf-sJwzzcRVn-pQ@rogers.com...
>> Maybe the guy just wanted the a new duffle bag!
>>
>> If you don't have a hard top then you'll find that it won't matter about
>> your locks.
>> I would just sit with the standard OEm ones....go to the junk yard (not
> sure
>> if you'd find 'new enough' ones there for you year/model).
>>
>> I've got a steel tool box (used to be used to mail documents with my
>> work...back in the day)....it's not huge...but definately would cause
>> them
>> to make more noise to get in to. And they sure as hell won't get far
>> running with it (it's about 100lbs--hate it!).
>
>

Re: Secure Hard Door Locks
 

I think securing the contents is the best idea--no matter what, the bad guys
can get in by breaking glass. I've got a Tuffy console and glove box after
getting broken into at an airport parking lot. I need something bigger for
more storage--like your ammo box or a bigger Tuffy box. The Bestop
Extendatrunk looks good, but it relys on the tailgate lock and can probably
be broken into as easy as the door.

To help prevent the jeep from being stolen, I've looked at getting tabs
welded on the brake, clutch, and shifter to lock them all together. I'll
need a custom bar made to go between the brake/clutch so I can padlock them
together and that extends to the shifter. I thought about a chain, but it
needs to be solid. Anyone done this before?

I also like the flame thrower/shocker approach. Or a paper bag full of fire
ants above the door that rips open when the passenger door is opened!

Tony

"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:gDfod.301802$nl.229395@pd7tw3no...
> After attempting to get the carriage bolts out from my rear seat to take
> it
> out and realizing that carriage bolts are now my least favourite thing in
> the world, it gave me an idea for making a very theft-resistant security
> box. I'm using a giant military ammo box and bolting it through my stock
> rear seat holes. The carriage bolt rounded end is going to be on the
> underside of the Jeep and the nut will be inside the box ...making it
> pretty
> much impossible to take off from the outside. The box is secured using a
> locksmith padlock and there is a titanium cable wrapped around the box as
> well for extra measure. It sounds extreme but my city has the highest rate
> of property theft per capita in Canada ...mostly vehicle-item theft. The
> stuff in the box is only used for offroading (essential tools, etc) so
> it's
> rare that I'll need to get into it (hopefully! ;p). It would definitely
> take
> awhile to break in ...one would probably have to steal the Jeep and take
> it
> to a garage to get in there. I'm thinking of actually putting a CD player
> in
> there as well with a remote. Haven't fully figured that out yet but I have
> an idea how to make it work well.
>
> But ya ...Jeeps are so easy to break into. I'd worry more about securing
> the
> items in the Jeep rather than trying to keep people out. I can get through
> the back window of a hardtop in under 60 seconds with a portable drill and
> a
> titanium bit while making VERY LITTLE sound. I know from experience
> (didn't
> get the damn key when I bought my hardtop ;p)
>
> Good luck. Sorry about your loss.
>
> --
> griffin
> '85 Jeep CJ-7
> '97 Toyota Corolla SD
>
> "SteveBrady" <steve.brady@(remove this)rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:jaednditf-sJwzzcRVn-pQ@rogers.com...
>> Maybe the guy just wanted the a new duffle bag!
>>
>> If you don't have a hard top then you'll find that it won't matter about
>> your locks.
>> I would just sit with the standard OEm ones....go to the junk yard (not
> sure
>> if you'd find 'new enough' ones there for you year/model).
>>
>> I've got a steel tool box (used to be used to mail documents with my
>> work...back in the day)....it's not huge...but definately would cause
>> them
>> to make more noise to get in to. And they sure as hell won't get far
>> running with it (it's about 100lbs--hate it!).
>
>

Re: Secure Hard Door Locks
 

Don't bet on crooks not breaking the glass to get what they want. My XJ was
broken into for a beat-up old XT I was donating to a church (12 years ago).
I've personally seen a crook break the glass to get into a car and then calmy
go thru the car while the alarm was blaring away -- I yelled at him (from
across the street on the third floor of a parking garage) he didn't even look
up.

>10 seconds with a screwdriver. I'd like to get locks that aren't so easy to
>get into. A crook can just break the glass, but I'll bet many wouldn't
>because it would make more noise.
>
>I made the mistake of leaving something in view to steal (never-used 5"x30'
>tow strap, fire extinguisher, handheld CB, jumpers, portable jump starter,
>air compressor--all neatly packaged in a duffle bag).
>
>Thanks,
>Tony


-Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)

Re: Secure Hard Door Locks
 

Don't bet on crooks not breaking the glass to get what they want. My XJ was
broken into for a beat-up old XT I was donating to a church (12 years ago).
I've personally seen a crook break the glass to get into a car and then calmy
go thru the car while the alarm was blaring away -- I yelled at him (from
across the street on the third floor of a parking garage) he didn't even look
up.

>10 seconds with a screwdriver. I'd like to get locks that aren't so easy to
>get into. A crook can just break the glass, but I'll bet many wouldn't
>because it would make more noise.
>
>I made the mistake of leaving something in view to steal (never-used 5"x30'
>tow strap, fire extinguisher, handheld CB, jumpers, portable jump starter,
>air compressor--all neatly packaged in a duffle bag).
>
>Thanks,
>Tony


-Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)

Re: Secure Hard Door Locks
 

Don't bet on crooks not breaking the glass to get what they want. My XJ was
broken into for a beat-up old XT I was donating to a church (12 years ago).
I've personally seen a crook break the glass to get into a car and then calmy
go thru the car while the alarm was blaring away -- I yelled at him (from
across the street on the third floor of a parking garage) he didn't even look
up.

>10 seconds with a screwdriver. I'd like to get locks that aren't so easy to
>get into. A crook can just break the glass, but I'll bet many wouldn't
>because it would make more noise.
>
>I made the mistake of leaving something in view to steal (never-used 5"x30'
>tow strap, fire extinguisher, handheld CB, jumpers, portable jump starter,
>air compressor--all neatly packaged in a duffle bag).
>
>Thanks,
>Tony


-Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)

Re: Secure Hard Door Locks
 

I've always thought there wouldn't be anything wrong with setting up some
sort of electrical current to shock the spit out of any would-be thief.
I've heard, though, they won't make it due to fear of lawsuits or something
like that. What a bunch of crap. "You hurt me when I was breaking the
law". What the heck is that?

Eric
"Tony M" <reddog01@metacrawler.com> wrote in message
news:YpCod.3291$Nh1.319@trnddc09...
>I think securing the contents is the best idea--no matter what, the bad
>guys can get in by breaking glass. I've got a Tuffy console and glove box
>after getting broken into at an airport parking lot. I need something
>bigger for more storage--like your ammo box or a bigger Tuffy box. The
>Bestop Extendatrunk looks good, but it relys on the tailgate lock and can
>probably be broken into as easy as the door.
>
> To help prevent the jeep from being stolen, I've looked at getting tabs
> welded on the brake, clutch, and shifter to lock them all together. I'll
> need a custom bar made to go between the brake/clutch so I can padlock
> them together and that extends to the shifter. I thought about a chain,
> but it needs to be solid. Anyone done this before?
>
> I also like the flame thrower/shocker approach. Or a paper bag full of
> fire ants above the door that rips open when the passenger door is opened!
>
> Tony
>
> "griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:gDfod.301802$nl.229395@pd7tw3no...
>> After attempting to get the carriage bolts out from my rear seat to take
>> it
>> out and realizing that carriage bolts are now my least favourite thing in
>> the world, it gave me an idea for making a very theft-resistant security
>> box. I'm using a giant military ammo box and bolting it through my stock
>> rear seat holes. The carriage bolt rounded end is going to be on the
>> underside of the Jeep and the nut will be inside the box ...making it
>> pretty
>> much impossible to take off from the outside. The box is secured using a
>> locksmith padlock and there is a titanium cable wrapped around the box as
>> well for extra measure. It sounds extreme but my city has the highest
>> rate
>> of property theft per capita in Canada ...mostly vehicle-item theft. The
>> stuff in the box is only used for offroading (essential tools, etc) so
>> it's
>> rare that I'll need to get into it (hopefully! ;p). It would definitely
>> take
>> awhile to break in ...one would probably have to steal the Jeep and take
>> it
>> to a garage to get in there. I'm thinking of actually putting a CD player
>> in
>> there as well with a remote. Haven't fully figured that out yet but I
>> have
>> an idea how to make it work well.
>>
>> But ya ...Jeeps are so easy to break into. I'd worry more about securing
>> the
>> items in the Jeep rather than trying to keep people out. I can get
>> through
>> the back window of a hardtop in under 60 seconds with a portable drill
>> and a
>> titanium bit while making VERY LITTLE sound. I know from experience
>> (didn't
>> get the damn key when I bought my hardtop ;p)
>>
>> Good luck. Sorry about your loss.
>>
>> --
>> griffin
>> '85 Jeep CJ-7
>> '97 Toyota Corolla SD
>>
>> "SteveBrady" <steve.brady@(remove this)rogers.com> wrote in message
>> news:jaednditf-sJwzzcRVn-pQ@rogers.com...
>>> Maybe the guy just wanted the a new duffle bag!
>>>
>>> If you don't have a hard top then you'll find that it won't matter about
>>> your locks.
>>> I would just sit with the standard OEm ones....go to the junk yard (not
>> sure
>>> if you'd find 'new enough' ones there for you year/model).
>>>
>>> I've got a steel tool box (used to be used to mail documents with my
>>> work...back in the day)....it's not huge...but definately would cause
>>> them
>>> to make more noise to get in to. And they sure as hell won't get far
>>> running with it (it's about 100lbs--hate it!).
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Secure Hard Door Locks
 

I've always thought there wouldn't be anything wrong with setting up some
sort of electrical current to shock the spit out of any would-be thief.
I've heard, though, they won't make it due to fear of lawsuits or something
like that. What a bunch of crap. "You hurt me when I was breaking the
law". What the heck is that?

Eric
"Tony M" <reddog01@metacrawler.com> wrote in message
news:YpCod.3291$Nh1.319@trnddc09...
>I think securing the contents is the best idea--no matter what, the bad
>guys can get in by breaking glass. I've got a Tuffy console and glove box
>after getting broken into at an airport parking lot. I need something
>bigger for more storage--like your ammo box or a bigger Tuffy box. The
>Bestop Extendatrunk looks good, but it relys on the tailgate lock and can
>probably be broken into as easy as the door.
>
> To help prevent the jeep from being stolen, I've looked at getting tabs
> welded on the brake, clutch, and shifter to lock them all together. I'll
> need a custom bar made to go between the brake/clutch so I can padlock
> them together and that extends to the shifter. I thought about a chain,
> but it needs to be solid. Anyone done this before?
>
> I also like the flame thrower/shocker approach. Or a paper bag full of
> fire ants above the door that rips open when the passenger door is opened!
>
> Tony
>
> "griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:gDfod.301802$nl.229395@pd7tw3no...
>> After attempting to get the carriage bolts out from my rear seat to take
>> it
>> out and realizing that carriage bolts are now my least favourite thing in
>> the world, it gave me an idea for making a very theft-resistant security
>> box. I'm using a giant military ammo box and bolting it through my stock
>> rear seat holes. The carriage bolt rounded end is going to be on the
>> underside of the Jeep and the nut will be inside the box ...making it
>> pretty
>> much impossible to take off from the outside. The box is secured using a
>> locksmith padlock and there is a titanium cable wrapped around the box as
>> well for extra measure. It sounds extreme but my city has the highest
>> rate
>> of property theft per capita in Canada ...mostly vehicle-item theft. The
>> stuff in the box is only used for offroading (essential tools, etc) so
>> it's
>> rare that I'll need to get into it (hopefully! ;p). It would definitely
>> take
>> awhile to break in ...one would probably have to steal the Jeep and take
>> it
>> to a garage to get in there. I'm thinking of actually putting a CD player
>> in
>> there as well with a remote. Haven't fully figured that out yet but I
>> have
>> an idea how to make it work well.
>>
>> But ya ...Jeeps are so easy to break into. I'd worry more about securing
>> the
>> items in the Jeep rather than trying to keep people out. I can get
>> through
>> the back window of a hardtop in under 60 seconds with a portable drill
>> and a
>> titanium bit while making VERY LITTLE sound. I know from experience
>> (didn't
>> get the damn key when I bought my hardtop ;p)
>>
>> Good luck. Sorry about your loss.
>>
>> --
>> griffin
>> '85 Jeep CJ-7
>> '97 Toyota Corolla SD
>>
>> "SteveBrady" <steve.brady@(remove this)rogers.com> wrote in message
>> news:jaednditf-sJwzzcRVn-pQ@rogers.com...
>>> Maybe the guy just wanted the a new duffle bag!
>>>
>>> If you don't have a hard top then you'll find that it won't matter about
>>> your locks.
>>> I would just sit with the standard OEm ones....go to the junk yard (not
>> sure
>>> if you'd find 'new enough' ones there for you year/model).
>>>
>>> I've got a steel tool box (used to be used to mail documents with my
>>> work...back in the day)....it's not huge...but definately would cause
>>> them
>>> to make more noise to get in to. And they sure as hell won't get far
>>> running with it (it's about 100lbs--hate it!).
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Secure Hard Door Locks
 

I've always thought there wouldn't be anything wrong with setting up some
sort of electrical current to shock the spit out of any would-be thief.
I've heard, though, they won't make it due to fear of lawsuits or something
like that. What a bunch of crap. "You hurt me when I was breaking the
law". What the heck is that?

Eric
"Tony M" <reddog01@metacrawler.com> wrote in message
news:YpCod.3291$Nh1.319@trnddc09...
>I think securing the contents is the best idea--no matter what, the bad
>guys can get in by breaking glass. I've got a Tuffy console and glove box
>after getting broken into at an airport parking lot. I need something
>bigger for more storage--like your ammo box or a bigger Tuffy box. The
>Bestop Extendatrunk looks good, but it relys on the tailgate lock and can
>probably be broken into as easy as the door.
>
> To help prevent the jeep from being stolen, I've looked at getting tabs
> welded on the brake, clutch, and shifter to lock them all together. I'll
> need a custom bar made to go between the brake/clutch so I can padlock
> them together and that extends to the shifter. I thought about a chain,
> but it needs to be solid. Anyone done this before?
>
> I also like the flame thrower/shocker approach. Or a paper bag full of
> fire ants above the door that rips open when the passenger door is opened!
>
> Tony
>
> "griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:gDfod.301802$nl.229395@pd7tw3no...
>> After attempting to get the carriage bolts out from my rear seat to take
>> it
>> out and realizing that carriage bolts are now my least favourite thing in
>> the world, it gave me an idea for making a very theft-resistant security
>> box. I'm using a giant military ammo box and bolting it through my stock
>> rear seat holes. The carriage bolt rounded end is going to be on the
>> underside of the Jeep and the nut will be inside the box ...making it
>> pretty
>> much impossible to take off from the outside. The box is secured using a
>> locksmith padlock and there is a titanium cable wrapped around the box as
>> well for extra measure. It sounds extreme but my city has the highest
>> rate
>> of property theft per capita in Canada ...mostly vehicle-item theft. The
>> stuff in the box is only used for offroading (essential tools, etc) so
>> it's
>> rare that I'll need to get into it (hopefully! ;p). It would definitely
>> take
>> awhile to break in ...one would probably have to steal the Jeep and take
>> it
>> to a garage to get in there. I'm thinking of actually putting a CD player
>> in
>> there as well with a remote. Haven't fully figured that out yet but I
>> have
>> an idea how to make it work well.
>>
>> But ya ...Jeeps are so easy to break into. I'd worry more about securing
>> the
>> items in the Jeep rather than trying to keep people out. I can get
>> through
>> the back window of a hardtop in under 60 seconds with a portable drill
>> and a
>> titanium bit while making VERY LITTLE sound. I know from experience
>> (didn't
>> get the damn key when I bought my hardtop ;p)
>>
>> Good luck. Sorry about your loss.
>>
>> --
>> griffin
>> '85 Jeep CJ-7
>> '97 Toyota Corolla SD
>>
>> "SteveBrady" <steve.brady@(remove this)rogers.com> wrote in message
>> news:jaednditf-sJwzzcRVn-pQ@rogers.com...
>>> Maybe the guy just wanted the a new duffle bag!
>>>
>>> If you don't have a hard top then you'll find that it won't matter about
>>> your locks.
>>> I would just sit with the standard OEm ones....go to the junk yard (not
>> sure
>>> if you'd find 'new enough' ones there for you year/model).
>>>
>>> I've got a steel tool box (used to be used to mail documents with my
>>> work...back in the day)....it's not huge...but definately would cause
>>> them
>>> to make more noise to get in to. And they sure as hell won't get far
>>> running with it (it's about 100lbs--hate it!).
>>
>>
>
>