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CRWLR 10-31-2003 02:50 PM

Re: Safe to use floor jack on differential?
 
IT IS TIME FOR A REALITY CHECK HERE ...

What happens when you get the pumpkin stuck on a rock or stump? You support
the weight of the vehicle on the pumpkin, that's what. It is a pain in the
ass to do this, but it isn't destructive to the axles. You can damage the
covers when this happens, but we never see bent axles tubes as a result.

If one takes reasonable precautions by carefully locating the cup of the
floor jack, or by using a block of wood to ------ the load across a wider
area if a bottle jack must be used, tneh there should be no problem for the
axle to support the weight of the vehicle. Obviously, using a bottle jack on
the pumpkin has its own set of potential problems, but bending the axle
tubes isn't among them.




"Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
news:20031031125640.22081.00001575@mb-m17.aol.com...
> In article <bnu21t02m11@enews3.newsguy.com>, "Gerald G. McGeorge"
> <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> writes:
>
> >Indeed, Currie states the tube section width on
> >TJ D44s is very weak as well, however I think that's just a ploy to

market
> >their custom units.

>
> I've been told that the factory 44's use D35-sized axletubes...
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
>
>
>
>



CRWLR 10-31-2003 02:50 PM

Re: Safe to use floor jack on differential?
 
IT IS TIME FOR A REALITY CHECK HERE ...

What happens when you get the pumpkin stuck on a rock or stump? You support
the weight of the vehicle on the pumpkin, that's what. It is a pain in the
ass to do this, but it isn't destructive to the axles. You can damage the
covers when this happens, but we never see bent axles tubes as a result.

If one takes reasonable precautions by carefully locating the cup of the
floor jack, or by using a block of wood to ------ the load across a wider
area if a bottle jack must be used, tneh there should be no problem for the
axle to support the weight of the vehicle. Obviously, using a bottle jack on
the pumpkin has its own set of potential problems, but bending the axle
tubes isn't among them.




"Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
news:20031031125640.22081.00001575@mb-m17.aol.com...
> In article <bnu21t02m11@enews3.newsguy.com>, "Gerald G. McGeorge"
> <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> writes:
>
> >Indeed, Currie states the tube section width on
> >TJ D44s is very weak as well, however I think that's just a ploy to

market
> >their custom units.

>
> I've been told that the factory 44's use D35-sized axletubes...
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
>
>
>
>



twaldron 10-31-2003 02:54 PM

Re: Safe to use floor jack on differential?
 
Don't choo blaspheme in here!!

Aretha Franklin - Blues Brothers, (1980)

CRWLR wrote:
> You might recommend against it, but you do exactly the same thing everytime
> you get high centered on the pumpkin. There should be no problem doing this,
> and if there is then maybe offroading should be reconsidered.



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__________________________________________________ _________
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03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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twaldron 10-31-2003 02:54 PM

Re: Safe to use floor jack on differential?
 
Don't choo blaspheme in here!!

Aretha Franklin - Blues Brothers, (1980)

CRWLR wrote:
> You might recommend against it, but you do exactly the same thing everytime
> you get high centered on the pumpkin. There should be no problem doing this,
> and if there is then maybe offroading should be reconsidered.



--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________


twaldron 10-31-2003 02:54 PM

Re: Safe to use floor jack on differential?
 
Don't choo blaspheme in here!!

Aretha Franklin - Blues Brothers, (1980)

CRWLR wrote:
> You might recommend against it, but you do exactly the same thing everytime
> you get high centered on the pumpkin. There should be no problem doing this,
> and if there is then maybe offroading should be reconsidered.



--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________


Joshua Nelson 10-31-2003 04:36 PM

Re: Safe to use floor jack on differential?
 
OP: But you should be ok if your axle is full floating.

"TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message news:<8tCdnXI0hfJ1_z-iRVn-vw@comcast.com>...
> I've heard that a lot of people do this, and the pumpkin is plenty strong,
> but my concern would be the fact that the vehicle is supported out at the
> end of the axle tubes and they may shift or bend where they are attached to
> the pumpkin, especially if you have the weaker d35. I'd be afraid that a
> shift in the axle tubes could be detrimental to the operation of the diff
> and potentially lead to premature wear or breakage. I recommend against
> this practice.
>
> --
> Jim
> --
> 98 TJ SE
> 90 SJ GW
> http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
> "You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
> enough..."
> "4x4" in caps is "$X$"
>
>
> "mabar" <mabar@NOSPAMgbronline.com> wrote in message
> news:q6qdnee6eZeY5jyiRVn-uw@gbronline.com...
> > I've been doing this for years with no problems, but is it safe to raise

> my
> > TJ with my floor jack under the front or rear differential pumpkin?
> >
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >


Joshua Nelson 10-31-2003 04:36 PM

Re: Safe to use floor jack on differential?
 
OP: But you should be ok if your axle is full floating.

"TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message news:<8tCdnXI0hfJ1_z-iRVn-vw@comcast.com>...
> I've heard that a lot of people do this, and the pumpkin is plenty strong,
> but my concern would be the fact that the vehicle is supported out at the
> end of the axle tubes and they may shift or bend where they are attached to
> the pumpkin, especially if you have the weaker d35. I'd be afraid that a
> shift in the axle tubes could be detrimental to the operation of the diff
> and potentially lead to premature wear or breakage. I recommend against
> this practice.
>
> --
> Jim
> --
> 98 TJ SE
> 90 SJ GW
> http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
> "You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
> enough..."
> "4x4" in caps is "$X$"
>
>
> "mabar" <mabar@NOSPAMgbronline.com> wrote in message
> news:q6qdnee6eZeY5jyiRVn-uw@gbronline.com...
> > I've been doing this for years with no problems, but is it safe to raise

> my
> > TJ with my floor jack under the front or rear differential pumpkin?
> >
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >


Joshua Nelson 10-31-2003 04:36 PM

Re: Safe to use floor jack on differential?
 
OP: But you should be ok if your axle is full floating.

"TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message news:<8tCdnXI0hfJ1_z-iRVn-vw@comcast.com>...
> I've heard that a lot of people do this, and the pumpkin is plenty strong,
> but my concern would be the fact that the vehicle is supported out at the
> end of the axle tubes and they may shift or bend where they are attached to
> the pumpkin, especially if you have the weaker d35. I'd be afraid that a
> shift in the axle tubes could be detrimental to the operation of the diff
> and potentially lead to premature wear or breakage. I recommend against
> this practice.
>
> --
> Jim
> --
> 98 TJ SE
> 90 SJ GW
> http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
> "You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
> enough..."
> "4x4" in caps is "$X$"
>
>
> "mabar" <mabar@NOSPAMgbronline.com> wrote in message
> news:q6qdnee6eZeY5jyiRVn-uw@gbronline.com...
> > I've been doing this for years with no problems, but is it safe to raise

> my
> > TJ with my floor jack under the front or rear differential pumpkin?
> >
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >


Matt Macchiarolo 10-31-2003 05:11 PM

Re: Safe to use floor jack on differential?
 
In article <b102b6e4.0310311336.5918cbbf@posting.google.com >, spam_box@ev1.net
(Joshua Nelson) writes:

>OP: But you should be ok if your axle is full floating.
>


Why is that, praytell? Are you suggesting the axletubes of a full floating axle
do not support the weight of the vehicle?
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html





Matt Macchiarolo 10-31-2003 05:11 PM

Re: Safe to use floor jack on differential?
 
In article <b102b6e4.0310311336.5918cbbf@posting.google.com >, spam_box@ev1.net
(Joshua Nelson) writes:

>OP: But you should be ok if your axle is full floating.
>


Why is that, praytell? Are you suggesting the axletubes of a full floating axle
do not support the weight of the vehicle?
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html






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