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Mark Corbelli 06-08-2007 09:03 AM

Rusted skid plate 88 Grand Wagoneer
 
I posted a few months back about my beloved and trusted friend, my 1988 Jeep
Grand Wagon in A1 shape, not getting a passing inspection due to frame rust.
I took it to 3 different mechanics and all say I would have to take the body
off the frame to do the repairs. So I did what anyone would do for a sick
friend and I found someone who would overlook certain things for a price and
got another year's inspection. I do want to work on this, however, but at
least I have a year. As far as the skid plate, there's really not much left.
I understand that it doesn't really hold the gas tank in place. But should I
be worried?



nrs 06-08-2007 11:04 AM

Re: Rusted skid plate 88 Grand Wagoneer
 
On Jun 8, 8:03 am, "Mark Corbelli" <m_corbe...@verizon.net> wrote:
> I posted a few months back about my beloved and trusted friend, my 1988 Jeep
> Grand Wagon in A1 shape, not getting a passing inspection due to frame rust.
> I took it to 3 different mechanics and all say I would have to take the body
> off the frame to do the repairs. So I did what anyone would do for a sick
> friend and I found someone who would overlook certain things for a price and
> got another year's inspection. I do want to work on this, however, but at
> least I have a year. As far as the skid plate, there's really not much left.
> I understand that it doesn't really hold the gas tank in place. But should I
> be worried?


It is replaceable, nothing to worry about. It isn't holding the
vehicle together or anything like that. If that is all that is
keeping it from passing inspection, just take it off so they don't
have as much rust to look at.


nrs 06-08-2007 11:04 AM

Re: Rusted skid plate 88 Grand Wagoneer
 
On Jun 8, 8:03 am, "Mark Corbelli" <m_corbe...@verizon.net> wrote:
> I posted a few months back about my beloved and trusted friend, my 1988 Jeep
> Grand Wagon in A1 shape, not getting a passing inspection due to frame rust.
> I took it to 3 different mechanics and all say I would have to take the body
> off the frame to do the repairs. So I did what anyone would do for a sick
> friend and I found someone who would overlook certain things for a price and
> got another year's inspection. I do want to work on this, however, but at
> least I have a year. As far as the skid plate, there's really not much left.
> I understand that it doesn't really hold the gas tank in place. But should I
> be worried?


It is replaceable, nothing to worry about. It isn't holding the
vehicle together or anything like that. If that is all that is
keeping it from passing inspection, just take it off so they don't
have as much rust to look at.


nrs 06-08-2007 11:04 AM

Re: Rusted skid plate 88 Grand Wagoneer
 
On Jun 8, 8:03 am, "Mark Corbelli" <m_corbe...@verizon.net> wrote:
> I posted a few months back about my beloved and trusted friend, my 1988 Jeep
> Grand Wagon in A1 shape, not getting a passing inspection due to frame rust.
> I took it to 3 different mechanics and all say I would have to take the body
> off the frame to do the repairs. So I did what anyone would do for a sick
> friend and I found someone who would overlook certain things for a price and
> got another year's inspection. I do want to work on this, however, but at
> least I have a year. As far as the skid plate, there's really not much left.
> I understand that it doesn't really hold the gas tank in place. But should I
> be worried?


It is replaceable, nothing to worry about. It isn't holding the
vehicle together or anything like that. If that is all that is
keeping it from passing inspection, just take it off so they don't
have as much rust to look at.


nrs 06-08-2007 11:04 AM

Re: Rusted skid plate 88 Grand Wagoneer
 
On Jun 8, 8:03 am, "Mark Corbelli" <m_corbe...@verizon.net> wrote:
> I posted a few months back about my beloved and trusted friend, my 1988 Jeep
> Grand Wagon in A1 shape, not getting a passing inspection due to frame rust.
> I took it to 3 different mechanics and all say I would have to take the body
> off the frame to do the repairs. So I did what anyone would do for a sick
> friend and I found someone who would overlook certain things for a price and
> got another year's inspection. I do want to work on this, however, but at
> least I have a year. As far as the skid plate, there's really not much left.
> I understand that it doesn't really hold the gas tank in place. But should I
> be worried?


It is replaceable, nothing to worry about. It isn't holding the
vehicle together or anything like that. If that is all that is
keeping it from passing inspection, just take it off so they don't
have as much rust to look at.


Jon 06-08-2007 01:07 PM

Re: Rusted skid plate 88 Grand Wagoneer
 
On Jun 8, 8:04 am, nrs <neale...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 8, 8:03 am, "Mark Corbelli" <m_corbe...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > I posted a few months back about my beloved and trusted friend, my 1988 Jeep
> > Grand Wagon in A1 shape, not getting a passing inspection due to frame rust.
> > I took it to 3 different mechanics and all say I would have to take the body
> > off the frame to do the repairs. So I did what anyone would do for a sick
> > friend and I found someone who would overlook certain things for a price and
> > got another year's inspection. I do want to work on this, however, but at
> > least I have a year. As far as the skid plate, there's really not much left.
> > I understand that it doesn't really hold the gas tank in place. But should I
> > be worried?

>
> It is replaceable, nothing to worry about. It isn't holding the
> vehicle together or anything like that. If that is all that is
> keeping it from passing inspection, just take it off so they don't
> have as much rust to look at.


Mark,

With all due respect: stop faffing about and get down to business.
You received some good advice (which snowballed into something else),
and have elected to continue talking to mechanics who are neither
interested in nor professionally geared towards this type of repair.
I spent over a decade professionally in automotive and heavy equipment
repair -- all in the rust belt with a heavy lean towards fabrication
and "making the job go". One of your mechanics suggested a welding/
fabrication shop (albeit with an out of the blue "estimate"), as did
I. You may indeed have to separate the frame a bit for sufficient
access, but we're not talking about rocket science or necessarily
complete separation.

Find a welding shop willing to do the repair -- i.e. one with plow
frames, construction equipment, and the sort piled outside, not a
boutique in the suburbs. Show up ready and willing to get the job
done, asking what you need (as opposed to what you want) to have
repaired and the non-restoration circumstances surrounding it. You
can't get a serious estimate on this type of job if you waffle about.
Bring some graphic documentation about the specialty repair items in
the aftermarket....see links below. I think the "frame repair" piece
might solve a lot of your concerns, probably not worth purchasing to a
well equipped shop, but it might be the bit of encouragement they need
to jump in.

I don't mean to be too abrupt but this forum is only good for talking
about doing work, not getting it accomplished. No one can assess your
damage or risk factor without at the very least seeing what you're
talking about (a few photos, perhaps?)....I don't know what you
expect.

http://www.grandwagoneers.com/stainless_straps.html

http://www.grandwagoneers.com/frame_repair.html

http://www.grandwagoneers.com/oem_skid_plate.html

I'll be happy to respond to some pics, as will others, and we look
forward to hearing about how the job progresses.

Jon


Jon 06-08-2007 01:07 PM

Re: Rusted skid plate 88 Grand Wagoneer
 
On Jun 8, 8:04 am, nrs <neale...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 8, 8:03 am, "Mark Corbelli" <m_corbe...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > I posted a few months back about my beloved and trusted friend, my 1988 Jeep
> > Grand Wagon in A1 shape, not getting a passing inspection due to frame rust.
> > I took it to 3 different mechanics and all say I would have to take the body
> > off the frame to do the repairs. So I did what anyone would do for a sick
> > friend and I found someone who would overlook certain things for a price and
> > got another year's inspection. I do want to work on this, however, but at
> > least I have a year. As far as the skid plate, there's really not much left.
> > I understand that it doesn't really hold the gas tank in place. But should I
> > be worried?

>
> It is replaceable, nothing to worry about. It isn't holding the
> vehicle together or anything like that. If that is all that is
> keeping it from passing inspection, just take it off so they don't
> have as much rust to look at.


Mark,

With all due respect: stop faffing about and get down to business.
You received some good advice (which snowballed into something else),
and have elected to continue talking to mechanics who are neither
interested in nor professionally geared towards this type of repair.
I spent over a decade professionally in automotive and heavy equipment
repair -- all in the rust belt with a heavy lean towards fabrication
and "making the job go". One of your mechanics suggested a welding/
fabrication shop (albeit with an out of the blue "estimate"), as did
I. You may indeed have to separate the frame a bit for sufficient
access, but we're not talking about rocket science or necessarily
complete separation.

Find a welding shop willing to do the repair -- i.e. one with plow
frames, construction equipment, and the sort piled outside, not a
boutique in the suburbs. Show up ready and willing to get the job
done, asking what you need (as opposed to what you want) to have
repaired and the non-restoration circumstances surrounding it. You
can't get a serious estimate on this type of job if you waffle about.
Bring some graphic documentation about the specialty repair items in
the aftermarket....see links below. I think the "frame repair" piece
might solve a lot of your concerns, probably not worth purchasing to a
well equipped shop, but it might be the bit of encouragement they need
to jump in.

I don't mean to be too abrupt but this forum is only good for talking
about doing work, not getting it accomplished. No one can assess your
damage or risk factor without at the very least seeing what you're
talking about (a few photos, perhaps?)....I don't know what you
expect.

http://www.grandwagoneers.com/stainless_straps.html

http://www.grandwagoneers.com/frame_repair.html

http://www.grandwagoneers.com/oem_skid_plate.html

I'll be happy to respond to some pics, as will others, and we look
forward to hearing about how the job progresses.

Jon


Jon 06-08-2007 01:07 PM

Re: Rusted skid plate 88 Grand Wagoneer
 
On Jun 8, 8:04 am, nrs <neale...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 8, 8:03 am, "Mark Corbelli" <m_corbe...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > I posted a few months back about my beloved and trusted friend, my 1988 Jeep
> > Grand Wagon in A1 shape, not getting a passing inspection due to frame rust.
> > I took it to 3 different mechanics and all say I would have to take the body
> > off the frame to do the repairs. So I did what anyone would do for a sick
> > friend and I found someone who would overlook certain things for a price and
> > got another year's inspection. I do want to work on this, however, but at
> > least I have a year. As far as the skid plate, there's really not much left.
> > I understand that it doesn't really hold the gas tank in place. But should I
> > be worried?

>
> It is replaceable, nothing to worry about. It isn't holding the
> vehicle together or anything like that. If that is all that is
> keeping it from passing inspection, just take it off so they don't
> have as much rust to look at.


Mark,

With all due respect: stop faffing about and get down to business.
You received some good advice (which snowballed into something else),
and have elected to continue talking to mechanics who are neither
interested in nor professionally geared towards this type of repair.
I spent over a decade professionally in automotive and heavy equipment
repair -- all in the rust belt with a heavy lean towards fabrication
and "making the job go". One of your mechanics suggested a welding/
fabrication shop (albeit with an out of the blue "estimate"), as did
I. You may indeed have to separate the frame a bit for sufficient
access, but we're not talking about rocket science or necessarily
complete separation.

Find a welding shop willing to do the repair -- i.e. one with plow
frames, construction equipment, and the sort piled outside, not a
boutique in the suburbs. Show up ready and willing to get the job
done, asking what you need (as opposed to what you want) to have
repaired and the non-restoration circumstances surrounding it. You
can't get a serious estimate on this type of job if you waffle about.
Bring some graphic documentation about the specialty repair items in
the aftermarket....see links below. I think the "frame repair" piece
might solve a lot of your concerns, probably not worth purchasing to a
well equipped shop, but it might be the bit of encouragement they need
to jump in.

I don't mean to be too abrupt but this forum is only good for talking
about doing work, not getting it accomplished. No one can assess your
damage or risk factor without at the very least seeing what you're
talking about (a few photos, perhaps?)....I don't know what you
expect.

http://www.grandwagoneers.com/stainless_straps.html

http://www.grandwagoneers.com/frame_repair.html

http://www.grandwagoneers.com/oem_skid_plate.html

I'll be happy to respond to some pics, as will others, and we look
forward to hearing about how the job progresses.

Jon


Jon 06-08-2007 01:07 PM

Re: Rusted skid plate 88 Grand Wagoneer
 
On Jun 8, 8:04 am, nrs <neale...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 8, 8:03 am, "Mark Corbelli" <m_corbe...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > I posted a few months back about my beloved and trusted friend, my 1988 Jeep
> > Grand Wagon in A1 shape, not getting a passing inspection due to frame rust.
> > I took it to 3 different mechanics and all say I would have to take the body
> > off the frame to do the repairs. So I did what anyone would do for a sick
> > friend and I found someone who would overlook certain things for a price and
> > got another year's inspection. I do want to work on this, however, but at
> > least I have a year. As far as the skid plate, there's really not much left.
> > I understand that it doesn't really hold the gas tank in place. But should I
> > be worried?

>
> It is replaceable, nothing to worry about. It isn't holding the
> vehicle together or anything like that. If that is all that is
> keeping it from passing inspection, just take it off so they don't
> have as much rust to look at.


Mark,

With all due respect: stop faffing about and get down to business.
You received some good advice (which snowballed into something else),
and have elected to continue talking to mechanics who are neither
interested in nor professionally geared towards this type of repair.
I spent over a decade professionally in automotive and heavy equipment
repair -- all in the rust belt with a heavy lean towards fabrication
and "making the job go". One of your mechanics suggested a welding/
fabrication shop (albeit with an out of the blue "estimate"), as did
I. You may indeed have to separate the frame a bit for sufficient
access, but we're not talking about rocket science or necessarily
complete separation.

Find a welding shop willing to do the repair -- i.e. one with plow
frames, construction equipment, and the sort piled outside, not a
boutique in the suburbs. Show up ready and willing to get the job
done, asking what you need (as opposed to what you want) to have
repaired and the non-restoration circumstances surrounding it. You
can't get a serious estimate on this type of job if you waffle about.
Bring some graphic documentation about the specialty repair items in
the aftermarket....see links below. I think the "frame repair" piece
might solve a lot of your concerns, probably not worth purchasing to a
well equipped shop, but it might be the bit of encouragement they need
to jump in.

I don't mean to be too abrupt but this forum is only good for talking
about doing work, not getting it accomplished. No one can assess your
damage or risk factor without at the very least seeing what you're
talking about (a few photos, perhaps?)....I don't know what you
expect.

http://www.grandwagoneers.com/stainless_straps.html

http://www.grandwagoneers.com/frame_repair.html

http://www.grandwagoneers.com/oem_skid_plate.html

I'll be happy to respond to some pics, as will others, and we look
forward to hearing about how the job progresses.

Jon


Mark Corbelli 06-08-2007 03:38 PM

Re: Rusted skid plate 88 Grand Wagoneer
 
Yes I fully intend to get at this. I just "bought" the inspection sticker to
allow me to drive it here and there to get the work done. I have photos I
could upload but I'm not sure how it's done in a newsgroup posting.





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