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dave AKA vwdoc1 10-12-2004 07:30 PM

Re: Rust & Rot
 
mig is nice for body panels even without the gas.
I use a small Lincoln without using the gas. Makes me feel like I can
actually do some body work! lol
http://vwdoc1.tripod.com/personal/in...newmetal01.jpg
http://vwdoc1.tripod.com/personal/in...newmetal02.jpg
later,
dave AKA vwdoc1

"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:Pine.NEB.4.61.0410121612590.24140@panix1.pani x.com...
> On Mon, 20 Sep 2004, Doug wrote:
>
>> A while back I posted a few questions regarding frame rot & rust. There
>> were
>> several suggestions, which I appreciated! Last weekend I began the
>> process
>> of stripping everything down to the frame. Today the frame is ready for
>> repair and I'll be able to start on the body work.
>>
>> I'm trying to justify the purchase of a mig welder, but am not having
>> much
>> luck! A neighbor is going to take care of the frame for me, but he isn't
>> sure if his welder will work on body panels.
>>
>> I'm hoping to wrap this project up within two months at the most.
>>
>> I'm not exactly sure what it will take to put it all back together, but
>> I'm
>> having fun!

>
> If you're like most of us, it'll take about 2 1/2 years.
>
>
>




dave AKA vwdoc1 10-12-2004 07:30 PM

Re: Rust & Rot
 
mig is nice for body panels even without the gas.
I use a small Lincoln without using the gas. Makes me feel like I can
actually do some body work! lol
http://vwdoc1.tripod.com/personal/in...newmetal01.jpg
http://vwdoc1.tripod.com/personal/in...newmetal02.jpg
later,
dave AKA vwdoc1

"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:Pine.NEB.4.61.0410121612590.24140@panix1.pani x.com...
> On Mon, 20 Sep 2004, Doug wrote:
>
>> A while back I posted a few questions regarding frame rot & rust. There
>> were
>> several suggestions, which I appreciated! Last weekend I began the
>> process
>> of stripping everything down to the frame. Today the frame is ready for
>> repair and I'll be able to start on the body work.
>>
>> I'm trying to justify the purchase of a mig welder, but am not having
>> much
>> luck! A neighbor is going to take care of the frame for me, but he isn't
>> sure if his welder will work on body panels.
>>
>> I'm hoping to wrap this project up within two months at the most.
>>
>> I'm not exactly sure what it will take to put it all back together, but
>> I'm
>> having fun!

>
> If you're like most of us, it'll take about 2 1/2 years.
>
>
>




dave AKA vwdoc1 10-12-2004 07:30 PM

Re: Rust & Rot
 
mig is nice for body panels even without the gas.
I use a small Lincoln without using the gas. Makes me feel like I can
actually do some body work! lol
http://vwdoc1.tripod.com/personal/in...newmetal01.jpg
http://vwdoc1.tripod.com/personal/in...newmetal02.jpg
later,
dave AKA vwdoc1

"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:Pine.NEB.4.61.0410121612590.24140@panix1.pani x.com...
> On Mon, 20 Sep 2004, Doug wrote:
>
>> A while back I posted a few questions regarding frame rot & rust. There
>> were
>> several suggestions, which I appreciated! Last weekend I began the
>> process
>> of stripping everything down to the frame. Today the frame is ready for
>> repair and I'll be able to start on the body work.
>>
>> I'm trying to justify the purchase of a mig welder, but am not having
>> much
>> luck! A neighbor is going to take care of the frame for me, but he isn't
>> sure if his welder will work on body panels.
>>
>> I'm hoping to wrap this project up within two months at the most.
>>
>> I'm not exactly sure what it will take to put it all back together, but
>> I'm
>> having fun!

>
> If you're like most of us, it'll take about 2 1/2 years.
>
>
>




Lee Ayrton 10-13-2004 12:36 PM

Re: Rust & Rot
 

How do you do that without warping the sheet metal (I haven't tried my
hand at that yet). Keep making lots of well-seperated short beads, until
the seam is joined, then grind it all flat?


On Tue, 12 Oct 2004, dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:

> mig is nice for body panels even without the gas.
> I use a small Lincoln without using the gas. Makes me feel like I can
> actually do some body work! lol
> http://vwdoc1.tripod.com/personal/in...newmetal01.jpg
> http://vwdoc1.tripod.com/personal/in...newmetal02.jpg
> later,
> dave AKA vwdoc1
>
> "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
> news:Pine.NEB.4.61.0410121612590.24140@panix1.pani x.com...
>> On Mon, 20 Sep 2004, Doug wrote:
>>
>>> A while back I posted a few questions regarding frame rot & rust. There
>>> were
>>> several suggestions, which I appreciated! Last weekend I began the
>>> process
>>> of stripping everything down to the frame. Today the frame is ready for
>>> repair and I'll be able to start on the body work.
>>>
>>> I'm trying to justify the purchase of a mig welder, but am not having
>>> much
>>> luck! A neighbor is going to take care of the frame for me, but he isn't
>>> sure if his welder will work on body panels.
>>>
>>> I'm hoping to wrap this project up within two months at the most.
>>>
>>> I'm not exactly sure what it will take to put it all back together, but
>>> I'm
>>> having fun!

>>
>> If you're like most of us, it'll take about 2 1/2 years.
>>
>>
>>

>
>
>



Lee Ayrton 10-13-2004 12:36 PM

Re: Rust & Rot
 

How do you do that without warping the sheet metal (I haven't tried my
hand at that yet). Keep making lots of well-seperated short beads, until
the seam is joined, then grind it all flat?


On Tue, 12 Oct 2004, dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:

> mig is nice for body panels even without the gas.
> I use a small Lincoln without using the gas. Makes me feel like I can
> actually do some body work! lol
> http://vwdoc1.tripod.com/personal/in...newmetal01.jpg
> http://vwdoc1.tripod.com/personal/in...newmetal02.jpg
> later,
> dave AKA vwdoc1
>
> "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
> news:Pine.NEB.4.61.0410121612590.24140@panix1.pani x.com...
>> On Mon, 20 Sep 2004, Doug wrote:
>>
>>> A while back I posted a few questions regarding frame rot & rust. There
>>> were
>>> several suggestions, which I appreciated! Last weekend I began the
>>> process
>>> of stripping everything down to the frame. Today the frame is ready for
>>> repair and I'll be able to start on the body work.
>>>
>>> I'm trying to justify the purchase of a mig welder, but am not having
>>> much
>>> luck! A neighbor is going to take care of the frame for me, but he isn't
>>> sure if his welder will work on body panels.
>>>
>>> I'm hoping to wrap this project up within two months at the most.
>>>
>>> I'm not exactly sure what it will take to put it all back together, but
>>> I'm
>>> having fun!

>>
>> If you're like most of us, it'll take about 2 1/2 years.
>>
>>
>>

>
>
>



Lee Ayrton 10-13-2004 12:36 PM

Re: Rust & Rot
 

How do you do that without warping the sheet metal (I haven't tried my
hand at that yet). Keep making lots of well-seperated short beads, until
the seam is joined, then grind it all flat?


On Tue, 12 Oct 2004, dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:

> mig is nice for body panels even without the gas.
> I use a small Lincoln without using the gas. Makes me feel like I can
> actually do some body work! lol
> http://vwdoc1.tripod.com/personal/in...newmetal01.jpg
> http://vwdoc1.tripod.com/personal/in...newmetal02.jpg
> later,
> dave AKA vwdoc1
>
> "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
> news:Pine.NEB.4.61.0410121612590.24140@panix1.pani x.com...
>> On Mon, 20 Sep 2004, Doug wrote:
>>
>>> A while back I posted a few questions regarding frame rot & rust. There
>>> were
>>> several suggestions, which I appreciated! Last weekend I began the
>>> process
>>> of stripping everything down to the frame. Today the frame is ready for
>>> repair and I'll be able to start on the body work.
>>>
>>> I'm trying to justify the purchase of a mig welder, but am not having
>>> much
>>> luck! A neighbor is going to take care of the frame for me, but he isn't
>>> sure if his welder will work on body panels.
>>>
>>> I'm hoping to wrap this project up within two months at the most.
>>>
>>> I'm not exactly sure what it will take to put it all back together, but
>>> I'm
>>> having fun!

>>
>> If you're like most of us, it'll take about 2 1/2 years.
>>
>>
>>

>
>
>



DougW 10-13-2004 05:33 PM

Re: Rust & Rot
 
Lee Ayrton did pass the time by typing:
> How do you do that without warping the sheet metal (I haven't tried my
> hand at that yet). Keep making lots of well-seperated short beads, until
> the seam is joined, then grind it all flat?


You got it.

Lots of real short beads, not all in the same area.

Nate has some training vids out there somewhere. Don't remember
if one of them covered that or not. You can also read on the Miller
website. http://www.millerwelds.com/education/library.html

I'm eyeballing the Millermatic 135 as a good all-round body and light
tube mig.

--
DougW



DougW 10-13-2004 05:33 PM

Re: Rust & Rot
 
Lee Ayrton did pass the time by typing:
> How do you do that without warping the sheet metal (I haven't tried my
> hand at that yet). Keep making lots of well-seperated short beads, until
> the seam is joined, then grind it all flat?


You got it.

Lots of real short beads, not all in the same area.

Nate has some training vids out there somewhere. Don't remember
if one of them covered that or not. You can also read on the Miller
website. http://www.millerwelds.com/education/library.html

I'm eyeballing the Millermatic 135 as a good all-round body and light
tube mig.

--
DougW



DougW 10-13-2004 05:33 PM

Re: Rust & Rot
 
Lee Ayrton did pass the time by typing:
> How do you do that without warping the sheet metal (I haven't tried my
> hand at that yet). Keep making lots of well-seperated short beads, until
> the seam is joined, then grind it all flat?


You got it.

Lots of real short beads, not all in the same area.

Nate has some training vids out there somewhere. Don't remember
if one of them covered that or not. You can also read on the Miller
website. http://www.millerwelds.com/education/library.html

I'm eyeballing the Millermatic 135 as a good all-round body and light
tube mig.

--
DougW



dave AKA vwdoc1 10-14-2004 12:05 AM

Re: Rust & Rot
 
yep I try to 'stitch' the welds (bunch of little welds skipping around the
metal) to make it almost one solid weld, and grind it frequently between and
after welds.
You don't want the metal getting too hot.
I am definitely NOT a professional body man, so if I can do it you can also!
;-)
I recently purchased an auto darkening welding helmet to go with my Lincoln
110V mig welder.
I also love my metal nibbler and muffler cutoff tool too!
I have to try one of those tools that makes a lip or lap joint on the sheet
metal in the near future.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=41696

later,
dave AKA vwdoc1

"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:Pine.NEB.4.61.0410131234530.2687@panix3.panix .com...
>
> How do you do that without warping the sheet metal (I haven't tried my
> hand at that yet). Keep making lots of well-seperated short beads, until
> the seam is joined, then grind it all flat?
>
>
> On Tue, 12 Oct 2004, dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:
>
>> mig is nice for body panels even without the gas.
>> I use a small Lincoln without using the gas. Makes me feel like I can
>> actually do some body work! lol
>> http://vwdoc1.tripod.com/personal/in...newmetal01.jpg
>> http://vwdoc1.tripod.com/personal/in...newmetal02.jpg
>> later,
>> dave AKA vwdoc1
>>
>> "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
>> news:Pine.NEB.4.61.0410121612590.24140@panix1.pani x.com...
>>> On Mon, 20 Sep 2004, Doug wrote:
>>>
>>>> A while back I posted a few questions regarding frame rot & rust. There
>>>> were
>>>> several suggestions, which I appreciated! Last weekend I began the
>>>> process
>>>> of stripping everything down to the frame. Today the frame is ready for
>>>> repair and I'll be able to start on the body work.
>>>>
>>>> I'm trying to justify the purchase of a mig welder, but am not having
>>>> much
>>>> luck! A neighbor is going to take care of the frame for me, but he
>>>> isn't
>>>> sure if his welder will work on body panels.
>>>>
>>>> I'm hoping to wrap this project up within two months at the most.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not exactly sure what it will take to put it all back together, but
>>>> I'm
>>>> having fun!
>>>
>>> If you're like most of us, it'll take about 2 1/2 years.
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>

>





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