Re: Russians Off-Road on their federal highways
 

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:ftadnTzG86DtQNXYnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> The broken English in the text makes it sound like it's near Moscow, but I
> seriously doubt it. Yakutsk is a city in eastern Siberia, where the ground
> is probably frozen most of the year and firm to drive on, notice those
> pics are from the end of August, when the tundra thaws and creates a giant
> muddy mess. Paving that particular road would be a huge undertaking
> because of the freeze-thaw upheaval, you would have to take out a lot of
> underground permafrost. Kind of the reason why Alaska has few paved roads.


Huh... funny.. I seem to recall the roads in Alaska being paved when I lived
there 20 odd years ago... ?
Unless of course you're talking about the side roads, then they would have
been comprable to here in Tennessee.

Kate

Re: Russians Off-Road on their federal highways
 

On Thu, 2 Nov 2006 07:58:29 -0600, "Kate"
<svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote:

>
>"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>news:ftadnTzG86DtQNXYnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@comcast.com ...
>> The broken English in the text makes it sound like it's near Moscow, but I
>> seriously doubt it. Yakutsk is a city in eastern Siberia, where the ground
>> is probably frozen most of the year and firm to drive on, notice those
>> pics are from the end of August, when the tundra thaws and creates a giant
>> muddy mess. Paving that particular road would be a huge undertaking
>> because of the freeze-thaw upheaval, you would have to take out a lot of
>> underground permafrost. Kind of the reason why Alaska has few paved roads.
>
>
>Huh... funny.. I seem to recall the roads in Alaska being paved when I lived
>there 20 odd years ago... ?
>Unless of course you're talking about the side roads, then they would have
>been comprable to here in Tennessee.
>
>Kate
>
I'd have to agree with Kate. I too lived up in Alaska some 20 years
ago! We drove from Anchorage to the lower 48l, and the only
dirt/gravel road we hit was a 80 mile stretch in Canada. I believe
that stretch of the ALCAN is now paved. The main reason there's
probably few roads in Alaska is economics, and land rights. Why build
a road from Nome to Fairbanks? The cost could be easily paid for with
oil royalties, but it would require maintenance in the summer months
(perpetual daylight is good), but the logistics of clearing snow/ice
for so few vehicles, it's not worth it. And would native tribes even
allow the road to pass through their lands?
A tunnel could easily be carved out so that one could drive to
Juneau. Problem is you would be going into Canada to link with a main
highway. Would Canada allow it? Would you want to drive through
several miles of tunnel in an area that is prone to earthquakes on a
daily basis? Is there such a thing as a earthquake proof tunnel?
Driving into Juneau would put a hurt on air and sea traffic, which
Alaska depends heavily on. Plus I don't think Juneau could handle the
large volumes of motor homes/coaches that migrate up to Alaska every
year! If you ever pass through Anchorage, check out Merrill Field. I
believe it's the busiest small/private plane airport in the world. Air
is the primary mode of travel in Alaska, and it will be for many years
to come!

Re: Russians Off-Road on their federal highways
 

On Thu, 2 Nov 2006 07:58:29 -0600, "Kate"
<svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote:

>
>"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>news:ftadnTzG86DtQNXYnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@comcast.com ...
>> The broken English in the text makes it sound like it's near Moscow, but I
>> seriously doubt it. Yakutsk is a city in eastern Siberia, where the ground
>> is probably frozen most of the year and firm to drive on, notice those
>> pics are from the end of August, when the tundra thaws and creates a giant
>> muddy mess. Paving that particular road would be a huge undertaking
>> because of the freeze-thaw upheaval, you would have to take out a lot of
>> underground permafrost. Kind of the reason why Alaska has few paved roads.
>
>
>Huh... funny.. I seem to recall the roads in Alaska being paved when I lived
>there 20 odd years ago... ?
>Unless of course you're talking about the side roads, then they would have
>been comprable to here in Tennessee.
>
>Kate
>
I'd have to agree with Kate. I too lived up in Alaska some 20 years
ago! We drove from Anchorage to the lower 48l, and the only
dirt/gravel road we hit was a 80 mile stretch in Canada. I believe
that stretch of the ALCAN is now paved. The main reason there's
probably few roads in Alaska is economics, and land rights. Why build
a road from Nome to Fairbanks? The cost could be easily paid for with
oil royalties, but it would require maintenance in the summer months
(perpetual daylight is good), but the logistics of clearing snow/ice
for so few vehicles, it's not worth it. And would native tribes even
allow the road to pass through their lands?
A tunnel could easily be carved out so that one could drive to
Juneau. Problem is you would be going into Canada to link with a main
highway. Would Canada allow it? Would you want to drive through
several miles of tunnel in an area that is prone to earthquakes on a
daily basis? Is there such a thing as a earthquake proof tunnel?
Driving into Juneau would put a hurt on air and sea traffic, which
Alaska depends heavily on. Plus I don't think Juneau could handle the
large volumes of motor homes/coaches that migrate up to Alaska every
year! If you ever pass through Anchorage, check out Merrill Field. I
believe it's the busiest small/private plane airport in the world. Air
is the primary mode of travel in Alaska, and it will be for many years
to come!

Re: Russians Off-Road on their federal highways
 

On Thu, 2 Nov 2006 07:58:29 -0600, "Kate"
<svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote:

>
>"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>news:ftadnTzG86DtQNXYnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@comcast.com ...
>> The broken English in the text makes it sound like it's near Moscow, but I
>> seriously doubt it. Yakutsk is a city in eastern Siberia, where the ground
>> is probably frozen most of the year and firm to drive on, notice those
>> pics are from the end of August, when the tundra thaws and creates a giant
>> muddy mess. Paving that particular road would be a huge undertaking
>> because of the freeze-thaw upheaval, you would have to take out a lot of
>> underground permafrost. Kind of the reason why Alaska has few paved roads.
>
>
>Huh... funny.. I seem to recall the roads in Alaska being paved when I lived
>there 20 odd years ago... ?
>Unless of course you're talking about the side roads, then they would have
>been comprable to here in Tennessee.
>
>Kate
>
I'd have to agree with Kate. I too lived up in Alaska some 20 years
ago! We drove from Anchorage to the lower 48l, and the only
dirt/gravel road we hit was a 80 mile stretch in Canada. I believe
that stretch of the ALCAN is now paved. The main reason there's
probably few roads in Alaska is economics, and land rights. Why build
a road from Nome to Fairbanks? The cost could be easily paid for with
oil royalties, but it would require maintenance in the summer months
(perpetual daylight is good), but the logistics of clearing snow/ice
for so few vehicles, it's not worth it. And would native tribes even
allow the road to pass through their lands?
A tunnel could easily be carved out so that one could drive to
Juneau. Problem is you would be going into Canada to link with a main
highway. Would Canada allow it? Would you want to drive through
several miles of tunnel in an area that is prone to earthquakes on a
daily basis? Is there such a thing as a earthquake proof tunnel?
Driving into Juneau would put a hurt on air and sea traffic, which
Alaska depends heavily on. Plus I don't think Juneau could handle the
large volumes of motor homes/coaches that migrate up to Alaska every
year! If you ever pass through Anchorage, check out Merrill Field. I
believe it's the busiest small/private plane airport in the world. Air
is the primary mode of travel in Alaska, and it will be for many years
to come!

Re: Russians Off-Road on their federal highways
 

Of course in the more densly populated areas they would be paved, get on the
north side in August and you'll have a lovely mudfest...

"Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
news:9Qm2h.18934$Fd7.667@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:ftadnTzG86DtQNXYnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> The broken English in the text makes it sound like it's near Moscow, but
>> I seriously doubt it. Yakutsk is a city in eastern Siberia, where the
>> ground is probably frozen most of the year and firm to drive on, notice
>> those pics are from the end of August, when the tundra thaws and creates
>> a giant muddy mess. Paving that particular road would be a huge
>> undertaking because of the freeze-thaw upheaval, you would have to take
>> out a lot of underground permafrost. Kind of the reason why Alaska has
>> few paved roads.
>
>
> Huh... funny.. I seem to recall the roads in Alaska being paved when I
> lived there 20 odd years ago... ?
> Unless of course you're talking about the side roads, then they would have
> been comprable to here in Tennessee.
>
> Kate
>
>
>

Re: Russians Off-Road on their federal highways
 

Of course in the more densly populated areas they would be paved, get on the
north side in August and you'll have a lovely mudfest...

"Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
news:9Qm2h.18934$Fd7.667@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:ftadnTzG86DtQNXYnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> The broken English in the text makes it sound like it's near Moscow, but
>> I seriously doubt it. Yakutsk is a city in eastern Siberia, where the
>> ground is probably frozen most of the year and firm to drive on, notice
>> those pics are from the end of August, when the tundra thaws and creates
>> a giant muddy mess. Paving that particular road would be a huge
>> undertaking because of the freeze-thaw upheaval, you would have to take
>> out a lot of underground permafrost. Kind of the reason why Alaska has
>> few paved roads.
>
>
> Huh... funny.. I seem to recall the roads in Alaska being paved when I
> lived there 20 odd years ago... ?
> Unless of course you're talking about the side roads, then they would have
> been comprable to here in Tennessee.
>
> Kate
>
>
>

Re: Russians Off-Road on their federal highways
 

Of course in the more densly populated areas they would be paved, get on the
north side in August and you'll have a lovely mudfest...

"Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
news:9Qm2h.18934$Fd7.667@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:ftadnTzG86DtQNXYnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> The broken English in the text makes it sound like it's near Moscow, but
>> I seriously doubt it. Yakutsk is a city in eastern Siberia, where the
>> ground is probably frozen most of the year and firm to drive on, notice
>> those pics are from the end of August, when the tundra thaws and creates
>> a giant muddy mess. Paving that particular road would be a huge
>> undertaking because of the freeze-thaw upheaval, you would have to take
>> out a lot of underground permafrost. Kind of the reason why Alaska has
>> few paved roads.
>
>
> Huh... funny.. I seem to recall the roads in Alaska being paved when I
> lived there 20 odd years ago... ?
> Unless of course you're talking about the side roads, then they would have
> been comprable to here in Tennessee.
>
> Kate
>
>
>

Re: Russians Off-Road on their federal highways
 

http://www.alaska.com/plan/getaround...-4817217c.html

"The high-volume highways are paved. The remainder are gravel. "

<eric@rr.com> wrote in message
news:5d0lk2pme1n212beqj2mn959b58desqief@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 2 Nov 2006 07:58:29 -0600, "Kate"
> <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>news:ftadnTzG86DtQNXYnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@comcast.co m...
>>> The broken English in the text makes it sound like it's near Moscow, but
>>> I
>>> seriously doubt it. Yakutsk is a city in eastern Siberia, where the
>>> ground
>>> is probably frozen most of the year and firm to drive on, notice those
>>> pics are from the end of August, when the tundra thaws and creates a
>>> giant
>>> muddy mess. Paving that particular road would be a huge undertaking
>>> because of the freeze-thaw upheaval, you would have to take out a lot of
>>> underground permafrost. Kind of the reason why Alaska has few paved
>>> roads.
>>
>>
>>Huh... funny.. I seem to recall the roads in Alaska being paved when I
>>lived
>>there 20 odd years ago... ?
>>Unless of course you're talking about the side roads, then they would have
>>been comprable to here in Tennessee.
>>
>>Kate
>>
> I'd have to agree with Kate. I too lived up in Alaska some 20 years
> ago! We drove from Anchorage to the lower 48l, and the only
> dirt/gravel road we hit was a 80 mile stretch in Canada. I believe
> that stretch of the ALCAN is now paved. The main reason there's
> probably few roads in Alaska is economics, and land rights. Why build
> a road from Nome to Fairbanks? The cost could be easily paid for with
> oil royalties, but it would require maintenance in the summer months
> (perpetual daylight is good), but the logistics of clearing snow/ice
> for so few vehicles, it's not worth it. And would native tribes even
> allow the road to pass through their lands?
> A tunnel could easily be carved out so that one could drive to
> Juneau. Problem is you would be going into Canada to link with a main
> highway. Would Canada allow it? Would you want to drive through
> several miles of tunnel in an area that is prone to earthquakes on a
> daily basis? Is there such a thing as a earthquake proof tunnel?
> Driving into Juneau would put a hurt on air and sea traffic, which
> Alaska depends heavily on. Plus I don't think Juneau could handle the
> large volumes of motor homes/coaches that migrate up to Alaska every
> year! If you ever pass through Anchorage, check out Merrill Field. I
> believe it's the busiest small/private plane airport in the world. Air
> is the primary mode of travel in Alaska, and it will be for many years
> to come!

Re: Russians Off-Road on their federal highways
 

http://www.alaska.com/plan/getaround...-4817217c.html

"The high-volume highways are paved. The remainder are gravel. "

<eric@rr.com> wrote in message
news:5d0lk2pme1n212beqj2mn959b58desqief@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 2 Nov 2006 07:58:29 -0600, "Kate"
> <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>news:ftadnTzG86DtQNXYnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@comcast.co m...
>>> The broken English in the text makes it sound like it's near Moscow, but
>>> I
>>> seriously doubt it. Yakutsk is a city in eastern Siberia, where the
>>> ground
>>> is probably frozen most of the year and firm to drive on, notice those
>>> pics are from the end of August, when the tundra thaws and creates a
>>> giant
>>> muddy mess. Paving that particular road would be a huge undertaking
>>> because of the freeze-thaw upheaval, you would have to take out a lot of
>>> underground permafrost. Kind of the reason why Alaska has few paved
>>> roads.
>>
>>
>>Huh... funny.. I seem to recall the roads in Alaska being paved when I
>>lived
>>there 20 odd years ago... ?
>>Unless of course you're talking about the side roads, then they would have
>>been comprable to here in Tennessee.
>>
>>Kate
>>
> I'd have to agree with Kate. I too lived up in Alaska some 20 years
> ago! We drove from Anchorage to the lower 48l, and the only
> dirt/gravel road we hit was a 80 mile stretch in Canada. I believe
> that stretch of the ALCAN is now paved. The main reason there's
> probably few roads in Alaska is economics, and land rights. Why build
> a road from Nome to Fairbanks? The cost could be easily paid for with
> oil royalties, but it would require maintenance in the summer months
> (perpetual daylight is good), but the logistics of clearing snow/ice
> for so few vehicles, it's not worth it. And would native tribes even
> allow the road to pass through their lands?
> A tunnel could easily be carved out so that one could drive to
> Juneau. Problem is you would be going into Canada to link with a main
> highway. Would Canada allow it? Would you want to drive through
> several miles of tunnel in an area that is prone to earthquakes on a
> daily basis? Is there such a thing as a earthquake proof tunnel?
> Driving into Juneau would put a hurt on air and sea traffic, which
> Alaska depends heavily on. Plus I don't think Juneau could handle the
> large volumes of motor homes/coaches that migrate up to Alaska every
> year! If you ever pass through Anchorage, check out Merrill Field. I
> believe it's the busiest small/private plane airport in the world. Air
> is the primary mode of travel in Alaska, and it will be for many years
> to come!

Re: Russians Off-Road on their federal highways
 

http://www.alaska.com/plan/getaround...-4817217c.html

"The high-volume highways are paved. The remainder are gravel. "

<eric@rr.com> wrote in message
news:5d0lk2pme1n212beqj2mn959b58desqief@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 2 Nov 2006 07:58:29 -0600, "Kate"
> <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>news:ftadnTzG86DtQNXYnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@comcast.co m...
>>> The broken English in the text makes it sound like it's near Moscow, but
>>> I
>>> seriously doubt it. Yakutsk is a city in eastern Siberia, where the
>>> ground
>>> is probably frozen most of the year and firm to drive on, notice those
>>> pics are from the end of August, when the tundra thaws and creates a
>>> giant
>>> muddy mess. Paving that particular road would be a huge undertaking
>>> because of the freeze-thaw upheaval, you would have to take out a lot of
>>> underground permafrost. Kind of the reason why Alaska has few paved
>>> roads.
>>
>>
>>Huh... funny.. I seem to recall the roads in Alaska being paved when I
>>lived
>>there 20 odd years ago... ?
>>Unless of course you're talking about the side roads, then they would have
>>been comprable to here in Tennessee.
>>
>>Kate
>>
> I'd have to agree with Kate. I too lived up in Alaska some 20 years
> ago! We drove from Anchorage to the lower 48l, and the only
> dirt/gravel road we hit was a 80 mile stretch in Canada. I believe
> that stretch of the ALCAN is now paved. The main reason there's
> probably few roads in Alaska is economics, and land rights. Why build
> a road from Nome to Fairbanks? The cost could be easily paid for with
> oil royalties, but it would require maintenance in the summer months
> (perpetual daylight is good), but the logistics of clearing snow/ice
> for so few vehicles, it's not worth it. And would native tribes even
> allow the road to pass through their lands?
> A tunnel could easily be carved out so that one could drive to
> Juneau. Problem is you would be going into Canada to link with a main
> highway. Would Canada allow it? Would you want to drive through
> several miles of tunnel in an area that is prone to earthquakes on a
> daily basis? Is there such a thing as a earthquake proof tunnel?
> Driving into Juneau would put a hurt on air and sea traffic, which
> Alaska depends heavily on. Plus I don't think Juneau could handle the
> large volumes of motor homes/coaches that migrate up to Alaska every
> year! If you ever pass through Anchorage, check out Merrill Field. I
> believe it's the busiest small/private plane airport in the world. Air
> is the primary mode of travel in Alaska, and it will be for many years
> to come!