Re: Rough Idle on 1990 Jeep Wrangler
 

After cleaning, what are the initial turns after you seat them, how
many turns out of the idle mixture screws to start out with?

Mike Romain wrote:
> I use spray carb cleaner.
>
> Mike
>
> billy ray wrote:
> >
> > How do you clean that... GumOut?
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:455B27BA.6893772F@sympatico.ca...
> > > Just a FYI for you. The tube that runs from the gas filter and loops
> > > down to the carb has a tendency to get junk in it from gas evaporating
> > > when it sits. This junk is after the filter and can easily get back
> > > into the idle tubes.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >
> > > Jacob_T wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Checking the idle tubes turned out to be fruitful as they were nearly
> > >> completely clogged. Thank you for you recomendation.
> > >>
> > >> Steve Foley wrote:
> > >> > www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > "Jacob_T" <jacob.thaler@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > >> > news:1163443709.939734.295070@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > >> > > I've had my 1990 Jeep Wrangler for about 5 years. For a while now
> > >> > > though it has had trouble keeping a steady idle. Labor Day weekend,
> > >> > > I
> > >> > > had to get a new engine for it, and I thought the mechanic could tune
> > >> > > the carb so it finally idles correctly. He told me though that he
> > >> > > doesn't understand the electric feedback carburetor systemt and to
> > >> > > try
> > >> > > someone else. So here is what it does.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > It won't idle at all now, and the idle screw is turned almost all the
> > >> > > way in, When it did idle it keeps sputtering after i turn it off.
> > >> > > It
> > >> > > idles fine while choked when it is cold, but when the choke goes off
> > >> > > and it warms up, it can't keep running. I was reading on others and
> > >> > > they mentioned egr valve, but then again I don't know to much about
> > >> > > the
> > >> > > egr valve. When the jeep runs the egr pulsates in and out and
> > >> > > doesn't
> > >> > > just open and stay open or close and stay close, is this how it is
> > >> > > supposed to work or is it supposed to open and close as necessary.
> > >> > > Hopefully one of you Jeep lovers out there can help me out.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Jacob
> > >> > >

Re: Rough Idle on 1990 Jeep Wrangler
 

Yours has the feedback carb working right?

That means you seat the idle screws and back them out about 5 turns and
get it warmed up then set the idle speed to 650. It might smoke a
little.

You then turn the screws in in 1/4 turns at a time each and rev it.
Keep doing this until the idle drops and the engine starts to rumble.
You then back them out until you get the fastest idle. You then are
supposed to bring them back in 'just' until you notice a slight drop in
idle or 50 rpm max.

If this takes longer than 3 minutes to do, you are supposed to rev it to
2000 rpm in neutral for 1 minute to reset the computer and O2 I believe.

This should have the pins at the back of the carb cycling around the
center of their movement.

Mike

Jacob_T wrote:
>
> After cleaning, what are the initial turns after you seat them, how
> many turns out of the idle mixture screws to start out with?
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > I use spray carb cleaner.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > billy ray wrote:
> > >
> > > How do you clean that... GumOut?
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:455B27BA.6893772F@sympatico.ca...
> > > > Just a FYI for you. The tube that runs from the gas filter and loops
> > > > down to the carb has a tendency to get junk in it from gas evaporating
> > > > when it sits. This junk is after the filter and can easily get back
> > > > into the idle tubes.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > > >
> > > > Jacob_T wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Checking the idle tubes turned out to be fruitful as they were nearly
> > > >> completely clogged. Thank you for you recomendation.
> > > >>
> > > >> Steve Foley wrote:
> > > >> > www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > "Jacob_T" <jacob.thaler@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > >> > news:1163443709.939734.295070@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > > >> > > I've had my 1990 Jeep Wrangler for about 5 years. For a while now
> > > >> > > though it has had trouble keeping a steady idle. Labor Day weekend,
> > > >> > > I
> > > >> > > had to get a new engine for it, and I thought the mechanic could tune
> > > >> > > the carb so it finally idles correctly. He told me though that he
> > > >> > > doesn't understand the electric feedback carburetor systemt and to
> > > >> > > try
> > > >> > > someone else. So here is what it does.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > It won't idle at all now, and the idle screw is turned almost all the
> > > >> > > way in, When it did idle it keeps sputtering after i turn it off.
> > > >> > > It
> > > >> > > idles fine while choked when it is cold, but when the choke goes off
> > > >> > > and it warms up, it can't keep running. I was reading on others and
> > > >> > > they mentioned egr valve, but then again I don't know to much about
> > > >> > > the
> > > >> > > egr valve. When the jeep runs the egr pulsates in and out and
> > > >> > > doesn't
> > > >> > > just open and stay open or close and stay close, is this how it is
> > > >> > > supposed to work or is it supposed to open and close as necessary.
> > > >> > > Hopefully one of you Jeep lovers out there can help me out.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Jacob
> > > >> > >

Re: Rough Idle on 1990 Jeep Wrangler
 

Yours has the feedback carb working right?

That means you seat the idle screws and back them out about 5 turns and
get it warmed up then set the idle speed to 650. It might smoke a
little.

You then turn the screws in in 1/4 turns at a time each and rev it.
Keep doing this until the idle drops and the engine starts to rumble.
You then back them out until you get the fastest idle. You then are
supposed to bring them back in 'just' until you notice a slight drop in
idle or 50 rpm max.

If this takes longer than 3 minutes to do, you are supposed to rev it to
2000 rpm in neutral for 1 minute to reset the computer and O2 I believe.

This should have the pins at the back of the carb cycling around the
center of their movement.

Mike

Jacob_T wrote:
>
> After cleaning, what are the initial turns after you seat them, how
> many turns out of the idle mixture screws to start out with?
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > I use spray carb cleaner.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > billy ray wrote:
> > >
> > > How do you clean that... GumOut?
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:455B27BA.6893772F@sympatico.ca...
> > > > Just a FYI for you. The tube that runs from the gas filter and loops
> > > > down to the carb has a tendency to get junk in it from gas evaporating
> > > > when it sits. This junk is after the filter and can easily get back
> > > > into the idle tubes.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > > >
> > > > Jacob_T wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Checking the idle tubes turned out to be fruitful as they were nearly
> > > >> completely clogged. Thank you for you recomendation.
> > > >>
> > > >> Steve Foley wrote:
> > > >> > www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > "Jacob_T" <jacob.thaler@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > >> > news:1163443709.939734.295070@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > > >> > > I've had my 1990 Jeep Wrangler for about 5 years. For a while now
> > > >> > > though it has had trouble keeping a steady idle. Labor Day weekend,
> > > >> > > I
> > > >> > > had to get a new engine for it, and I thought the mechanic could tune
> > > >> > > the carb so it finally idles correctly. He told me though that he
> > > >> > > doesn't understand the electric feedback carburetor systemt and to
> > > >> > > try
> > > >> > > someone else. So here is what it does.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > It won't idle at all now, and the idle screw is turned almost all the
> > > >> > > way in, When it did idle it keeps sputtering after i turn it off.
> > > >> > > It
> > > >> > > idles fine while choked when it is cold, but when the choke goes off
> > > >> > > and it warms up, it can't keep running. I was reading on others and
> > > >> > > they mentioned egr valve, but then again I don't know to much about
> > > >> > > the
> > > >> > > egr valve. When the jeep runs the egr pulsates in and out and
> > > >> > > doesn't
> > > >> > > just open and stay open or close and stay close, is this how it is
> > > >> > > supposed to work or is it supposed to open and close as necessary.
> > > >> > > Hopefully one of you Jeep lovers out there can help me out.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Jacob
> > > >> > >

Re: Rough Idle on 1990 Jeep Wrangler
 

Yours has the feedback carb working right?

That means you seat the idle screws and back them out about 5 turns and
get it warmed up then set the idle speed to 650. It might smoke a
little.

You then turn the screws in in 1/4 turns at a time each and rev it.
Keep doing this until the idle drops and the engine starts to rumble.
You then back them out until you get the fastest idle. You then are
supposed to bring them back in 'just' until you notice a slight drop in
idle or 50 rpm max.

If this takes longer than 3 minutes to do, you are supposed to rev it to
2000 rpm in neutral for 1 minute to reset the computer and O2 I believe.

This should have the pins at the back of the carb cycling around the
center of their movement.

Mike

Jacob_T wrote:
>
> After cleaning, what are the initial turns after you seat them, how
> many turns out of the idle mixture screws to start out with?
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > I use spray carb cleaner.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > billy ray wrote:
> > >
> > > How do you clean that... GumOut?
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:455B27BA.6893772F@sympatico.ca...
> > > > Just a FYI for you. The tube that runs from the gas filter and loops
> > > > down to the carb has a tendency to get junk in it from gas evaporating
> > > > when it sits. This junk is after the filter and can easily get back
> > > > into the idle tubes.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > > >
> > > > Jacob_T wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Checking the idle tubes turned out to be fruitful as they were nearly
> > > >> completely clogged. Thank you for you recomendation.
> > > >>
> > > >> Steve Foley wrote:
> > > >> > www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > "Jacob_T" <jacob.thaler@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > >> > news:1163443709.939734.295070@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > > >> > > I've had my 1990 Jeep Wrangler for about 5 years. For a while now
> > > >> > > though it has had trouble keeping a steady idle. Labor Day weekend,
> > > >> > > I
> > > >> > > had to get a new engine for it, and I thought the mechanic could tune
> > > >> > > the carb so it finally idles correctly. He told me though that he
> > > >> > > doesn't understand the electric feedback carburetor systemt and to
> > > >> > > try
> > > >> > > someone else. So here is what it does.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > It won't idle at all now, and the idle screw is turned almost all the
> > > >> > > way in, When it did idle it keeps sputtering after i turn it off.
> > > >> > > It
> > > >> > > idles fine while choked when it is cold, but when the choke goes off
> > > >> > > and it warms up, it can't keep running. I was reading on others and
> > > >> > > they mentioned egr valve, but then again I don't know to much about
> > > >> > > the
> > > >> > > egr valve. When the jeep runs the egr pulsates in and out and
> > > >> > > doesn't
> > > >> > > just open and stay open or close and stay close, is this how it is
> > > >> > > supposed to work or is it supposed to open and close as necessary.
> > > >> > > Hopefully one of you Jeep lovers out there can help me out.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Jacob
> > > >> > >

Re: Rough Idle on 1990 Jeep Wrangler
 

Yeah, it has the feedback carb. Thanks a lot for your help, this group
is pretty neat, I am new to it, but it has helped me out tremendously.
Thanks again.

Jacob

On Nov 15, 1:21 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Yours has the feedback carb working right?
>
> That means you seat the idle screws and back them out about 5 turns and
> get it warmed up then set the idle speed to 650. It might smoke a
> little.
>
> You then turn the screws in in 1/4 turns at a time each and rev it.
> Keep doing this until the idle drops and the engine starts to rumble.
> You then back them out until you get the fastest idle. You then are
> supposed to bring them back in 'just' until you notice a slight drop in
> idle or 50 rpm max.
>
> If this takes longer than 3 minutes to do, you are supposed to rev it to
> 2000 rpm in neutral for 1 minute to reset the computer and O2 I believe.
>
> This should have the pins at the back of the carb cycling around the
> center of their movement.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> Jacob_T wrote:
>
> > After cleaning, what are the initial turns after you seat them, how
> > many turns out of the idle mixture screws to start out with?
>
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > I use spray carb cleaner.
>
> > > Mike
>
> > > billy ray wrote:
>
> > > > How do you clean that... GumOut?
>
> > > > "Mike Romain" <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > >news:455B27BA.6893772F@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > Just a FYI for you. The tube that runs from the gas filter and loops
> > > > > down to the carb has a tendency to get junk in it from gas evaporating
> > > > > when it sits. This junk is after the filter and can easily get back
> > > > > into the idle tubes.
>
> > > > > Mike
> > > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > > > Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> > > > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> > > > > Jacob_T wrote:
>
> > > > >> Checking the idle tubes turned out to be fruitful as they were nearly
> > > > >> completely clogged. Thank you for you recomendation.
>
> > > > >> Steve Foley wrote:
> > > > >> >www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
>
> > > > >> > "Jacob_T" <jacob.tha...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > >> >news:1163443709.939734.295070@k70g2000cwa.googleg roups.com...
> > > > >> > > I've had my 1990 Jeep Wrangler for about 5 years. For a while now
> > > > >> > > though it has had trouble keeping a steady idle. Labor Day weekend,
> > > > >> > > I
> > > > >> > > had to get a new engine for it, and I thought the mechanic could tune
> > > > >> > > the carb so it finally idles correctly. He told me though that he
> > > > >> > > doesn't understand the electric feedback carburetor systemt and to
> > > > >> > > try
> > > > >> > > someone else. So here is what it does.
>
> > > > >> > > It won't idle at all now, and the idle screw is turned almost all the
> > > > >> > > way in, When it did idle it keeps sputtering after i turn it off.
> > > > >> > > It
> > > > >> > > idles fine while choked when it is cold, but when the choke goes off
> > > > >> > > and it warms up, it can't keep running. I was reading on others and
> > > > >> > > they mentioned egr valve, but then again I don't know to much about
> > > > >> > > the
> > > > >> > > egr valve. When the jeep runs the egr pulsates in and out and
> > > > >> > > doesn't
> > > > >> > > just open and stay open or close and stay close, is this how it is
> > > > >> > > supposed to work or is it supposed to open and close as necessary.
> > > > >> > > Hopefully one of you Jeep lovers out there can help me out.
>
> > > > >> > > Jacob- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -

Re: Rough Idle on 1990 Jeep Wrangler
 

Yeah, it has the feedback carb. Thanks a lot for your help, this group
is pretty neat, I am new to it, but it has helped me out tremendously.
Thanks again.

Jacob

On Nov 15, 1:21 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Yours has the feedback carb working right?
>
> That means you seat the idle screws and back them out about 5 turns and
> get it warmed up then set the idle speed to 650. It might smoke a
> little.
>
> You then turn the screws in in 1/4 turns at a time each and rev it.
> Keep doing this until the idle drops and the engine starts to rumble.
> You then back them out until you get the fastest idle. You then are
> supposed to bring them back in 'just' until you notice a slight drop in
> idle or 50 rpm max.
>
> If this takes longer than 3 minutes to do, you are supposed to rev it to
> 2000 rpm in neutral for 1 minute to reset the computer and O2 I believe.
>
> This should have the pins at the back of the carb cycling around the
> center of their movement.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> Jacob_T wrote:
>
> > After cleaning, what are the initial turns after you seat them, how
> > many turns out of the idle mixture screws to start out with?
>
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > I use spray carb cleaner.
>
> > > Mike
>
> > > billy ray wrote:
>
> > > > How do you clean that... GumOut?
>
> > > > "Mike Romain" <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > >news:455B27BA.6893772F@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > Just a FYI for you. The tube that runs from the gas filter and loops
> > > > > down to the carb has a tendency to get junk in it from gas evaporating
> > > > > when it sits. This junk is after the filter and can easily get back
> > > > > into the idle tubes.
>
> > > > > Mike
> > > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > > > Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> > > > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> > > > > Jacob_T wrote:
>
> > > > >> Checking the idle tubes turned out to be fruitful as they were nearly
> > > > >> completely clogged. Thank you for you recomendation.
>
> > > > >> Steve Foley wrote:
> > > > >> >www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
>
> > > > >> > "Jacob_T" <jacob.tha...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > >> >news:1163443709.939734.295070@k70g2000cwa.googleg roups.com...
> > > > >> > > I've had my 1990 Jeep Wrangler for about 5 years. For a while now
> > > > >> > > though it has had trouble keeping a steady idle. Labor Day weekend,
> > > > >> > > I
> > > > >> > > had to get a new engine for it, and I thought the mechanic could tune
> > > > >> > > the carb so it finally idles correctly. He told me though that he
> > > > >> > > doesn't understand the electric feedback carburetor systemt and to
> > > > >> > > try
> > > > >> > > someone else. So here is what it does.
>
> > > > >> > > It won't idle at all now, and the idle screw is turned almost all the
> > > > >> > > way in, When it did idle it keeps sputtering after i turn it off.
> > > > >> > > It
> > > > >> > > idles fine while choked when it is cold, but when the choke goes off
> > > > >> > > and it warms up, it can't keep running. I was reading on others and
> > > > >> > > they mentioned egr valve, but then again I don't know to much about
> > > > >> > > the
> > > > >> > > egr valve. When the jeep runs the egr pulsates in and out and
> > > > >> > > doesn't
> > > > >> > > just open and stay open or close and stay close, is this how it is
> > > > >> > > supposed to work or is it supposed to open and close as necessary.
> > > > >> > > Hopefully one of you Jeep lovers out there can help me out.
>
> > > > >> > > Jacob- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -

Re: Rough Idle on 1990 Jeep Wrangler
 

Yeah, it has the feedback carb. Thanks a lot for your help, this group
is pretty neat, I am new to it, but it has helped me out tremendously.
Thanks again.

Jacob

On Nov 15, 1:21 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Yours has the feedback carb working right?
>
> That means you seat the idle screws and back them out about 5 turns and
> get it warmed up then set the idle speed to 650. It might smoke a
> little.
>
> You then turn the screws in in 1/4 turns at a time each and rev it.
> Keep doing this until the idle drops and the engine starts to rumble.
> You then back them out until you get the fastest idle. You then are
> supposed to bring them back in 'just' until you notice a slight drop in
> idle or 50 rpm max.
>
> If this takes longer than 3 minutes to do, you are supposed to rev it to
> 2000 rpm in neutral for 1 minute to reset the computer and O2 I believe.
>
> This should have the pins at the back of the carb cycling around the
> center of their movement.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> Jacob_T wrote:
>
> > After cleaning, what are the initial turns after you seat them, how
> > many turns out of the idle mixture screws to start out with?
>
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > I use spray carb cleaner.
>
> > > Mike
>
> > > billy ray wrote:
>
> > > > How do you clean that... GumOut?
>
> > > > "Mike Romain" <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > >news:455B27BA.6893772F@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > Just a FYI for you. The tube that runs from the gas filter and loops
> > > > > down to the carb has a tendency to get junk in it from gas evaporating
> > > > > when it sits. This junk is after the filter and can easily get back
> > > > > into the idle tubes.
>
> > > > > Mike
> > > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > > > Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> > > > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> > > > > Jacob_T wrote:
>
> > > > >> Checking the idle tubes turned out to be fruitful as they were nearly
> > > > >> completely clogged. Thank you for you recomendation.
>
> > > > >> Steve Foley wrote:
> > > > >> >www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html
>
> > > > >> > "Jacob_T" <jacob.tha...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > >> >news:1163443709.939734.295070@k70g2000cwa.googleg roups.com...
> > > > >> > > I've had my 1990 Jeep Wrangler for about 5 years. For a while now
> > > > >> > > though it has had trouble keeping a steady idle. Labor Day weekend,
> > > > >> > > I
> > > > >> > > had to get a new engine for it, and I thought the mechanic could tune
> > > > >> > > the carb so it finally idles correctly. He told me though that he
> > > > >> > > doesn't understand the electric feedback carburetor systemt and to
> > > > >> > > try
> > > > >> > > someone else. So here is what it does.
>
> > > > >> > > It won't idle at all now, and the idle screw is turned almost all the
> > > > >> > > way in, When it did idle it keeps sputtering after i turn it off.
> > > > >> > > It
> > > > >> > > idles fine while choked when it is cold, but when the choke goes off
> > > > >> > > and it warms up, it can't keep running. I was reading on others and
> > > > >> > > they mentioned egr valve, but then again I don't know to much about
> > > > >> > > the
> > > > >> > > egr valve. When the jeep runs the egr pulsates in and out and
> > > > >> > > doesn't
> > > > >> > > just open and stay open or close and stay close, is this how it is
> > > > >> > > supposed to work or is it supposed to open and close as necessary.
> > > > >> > > Hopefully one of you Jeep lovers out there can help me out.
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