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Coasty 10-01-2006 05:14 AM

Rock Climbing
 
http://www.michelinman.com/differenc...01102005a.html



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Coasty

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Frank_v7.0 10-01-2006 11:00 AM

Re: Rock Climbing
 
Coasty wrote:
> http://www.michelinman.com/differenc...01102005a.html
>
>
>

LMAO! It'll pick up snow and ice or mud and rocks, depending where you
live, and throw off the balance of the wheel. Having said that, Michelin
makes good "normal" tires. I've improved ride, handling and traction
by removing Goodyear tires and replacing them with equivalent Michelins
on several vehicles (one Jeep).

--
FRH

Frank_v7.0 10-01-2006 11:00 AM

Re: Rock Climbing
 
Coasty wrote:
> http://www.michelinman.com/differenc...01102005a.html
>
>
>

LMAO! It'll pick up snow and ice or mud and rocks, depending where you
live, and throw off the balance of the wheel. Having said that, Michelin
makes good "normal" tires. I've improved ride, handling and traction
by removing Goodyear tires and replacing them with equivalent Michelins
on several vehicles (one Jeep).

--
FRH

Frank_v7.0 10-01-2006 11:00 AM

Re: Rock Climbing
 
Coasty wrote:
> http://www.michelinman.com/differenc...01102005a.html
>
>
>

LMAO! It'll pick up snow and ice or mud and rocks, depending where you
live, and throw off the balance of the wheel. Having said that, Michelin
makes good "normal" tires. I've improved ride, handling and traction
by removing Goodyear tires and replacing them with equivalent Michelins
on several vehicles (one Jeep).

--
FRH

DougW 10-01-2006 11:33 AM

Re: Rock Climbing
 
Frank_v7.0 wrote:
> Coasty wrote:
>> http://www.michelinman.com/differenc...01102005a.html
>>
>>
>>

> LMAO! It'll pick up snow and ice or mud and rocks, depending where you
> live, and throw off the balance of the wheel. Having said that,
> Michelin makes good "normal" tires. I've improved ride, handling and
> traction by removing Goodyear tires and replacing them with equivalent
> Michelins on several vehicles (one Jeep).


And can you imagine how it would throw that debris on the highway. :O

I'd be interested to see how that design handles lateral stress. Might
make a good airless spare but I doubt it's any good for offroading.

--
DougW



DougW 10-01-2006 11:33 AM

Re: Rock Climbing
 
Frank_v7.0 wrote:
> Coasty wrote:
>> http://www.michelinman.com/differenc...01102005a.html
>>
>>
>>

> LMAO! It'll pick up snow and ice or mud and rocks, depending where you
> live, and throw off the balance of the wheel. Having said that,
> Michelin makes good "normal" tires. I've improved ride, handling and
> traction by removing Goodyear tires and replacing them with equivalent
> Michelins on several vehicles (one Jeep).


And can you imagine how it would throw that debris on the highway. :O

I'd be interested to see how that design handles lateral stress. Might
make a good airless spare but I doubt it's any good for offroading.

--
DougW



DougW 10-01-2006 11:33 AM

Re: Rock Climbing
 
Frank_v7.0 wrote:
> Coasty wrote:
>> http://www.michelinman.com/differenc...01102005a.html
>>
>>
>>

> LMAO! It'll pick up snow and ice or mud and rocks, depending where you
> live, and throw off the balance of the wheel. Having said that,
> Michelin makes good "normal" tires. I've improved ride, handling and
> traction by removing Goodyear tires and replacing them with equivalent
> Michelins on several vehicles (one Jeep).


And can you imagine how it would throw that debris on the highway. :O

I'd be interested to see how that design handles lateral stress. Might
make a good airless spare but I doubt it's any good for offroading.

--
DougW



Mike Romain 10-01-2006 12:05 PM

Re: Rock Climbing
 
DougW wrote:
>
> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
> > Coasty wrote:
> >> http://www.michelinman.com/differenc...01102005a.html
> >>
> >>
> >>

> > LMAO! It'll pick up snow and ice or mud and rocks, depending where you
> > live, and throw off the balance of the wheel. Having said that,
> > Michelin makes good "normal" tires. I've improved ride, handling and
> > traction by removing Goodyear tires and replacing them with equivalent
> > Michelins on several vehicles (one Jeep).

>
> And can you imagine how it would throw that debris on the highway. :O
>
> I'd be interested to see how that design handles lateral stress. Might
> make a good airless spare but I doubt it's any good for offroading.
>
> --
> DougW


Didn't the Apollo Moon Buggy use tires something like that back in the
60's and 70's? They had a horrendous time with them throwing debris.

They could make a nice light spare though.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain 10-01-2006 12:05 PM

Re: Rock Climbing
 
DougW wrote:
>
> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
> > Coasty wrote:
> >> http://www.michelinman.com/differenc...01102005a.html
> >>
> >>
> >>

> > LMAO! It'll pick up snow and ice or mud and rocks, depending where you
> > live, and throw off the balance of the wheel. Having said that,
> > Michelin makes good "normal" tires. I've improved ride, handling and
> > traction by removing Goodyear tires and replacing them with equivalent
> > Michelins on several vehicles (one Jeep).

>
> And can you imagine how it would throw that debris on the highway. :O
>
> I'd be interested to see how that design handles lateral stress. Might
> make a good airless spare but I doubt it's any good for offroading.
>
> --
> DougW


Didn't the Apollo Moon Buggy use tires something like that back in the
60's and 70's? They had a horrendous time with them throwing debris.

They could make a nice light spare though.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain 10-01-2006 12:05 PM

Re: Rock Climbing
 
DougW wrote:
>
> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
> > Coasty wrote:
> >> http://www.michelinman.com/differenc...01102005a.html
> >>
> >>
> >>

> > LMAO! It'll pick up snow and ice or mud and rocks, depending where you
> > live, and throw off the balance of the wheel. Having said that,
> > Michelin makes good "normal" tires. I've improved ride, handling and
> > traction by removing Goodyear tires and replacing them with equivalent
> > Michelins on several vehicles (one Jeep).

>
> And can you imagine how it would throw that debris on the highway. :O
>
> I'd be interested to see how that design handles lateral stress. Might
> make a good airless spare but I doubt it's any good for offroading.
>
> --
> DougW


Didn't the Apollo Moon Buggy use tires something like that back in the
60's and 70's? They had a horrendous time with them throwing debris.

They could make a nice light spare though.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Bob Casanova 10-01-2006 02:24 PM

Re: Rock Climbing
 
On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 12:05:43 -0400, the following appeared
in rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys, posted by Mike Romain
<romainm@sympatico.ca>:

>DougW wrote:
>>
>> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>> > Coasty wrote:
>> >> http://www.michelinman.com/differenc...01102005a.html
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> > LMAO! It'll pick up snow and ice or mud and rocks, depending where you
>> > live, and throw off the balance of the wheel. Having said that,
>> > Michelin makes good "normal" tires. I've improved ride, handling and
>> > traction by removing Goodyear tires and replacing them with equivalent
>> > Michelins on several vehicles (one Jeep).

>>
>> And can you imagine how it would throw that debris on the highway. :O
>>
>> I'd be interested to see how that design handles lateral stress. Might
>> make a good airless spare but I doubt it's any good for offroading.
>>
>> --
>> DougW

>
>Didn't the Apollo Moon Buggy use tires something like that back in the
>60's and 70's? They had a horrendous time with them throwing debris.
>
>They could make a nice light spare though.


Except that, as I read the press release, it's actually
*heavier* than a regular tire:

"The Tweel prototype, demonstrated on the Audi A4, is within
five percent of the rolling resistance and mass levels of
current pneumatic tires. That translates to within one
percent of the fuel economy of the OE fitment."

If the mass were 5% *lower* it wouldn't have been phrased
that way.

And I wonder how (actually, "if") it can be adjusted for
varying loads...or if that's necessary.
--

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless

Bob Casanova 10-01-2006 02:24 PM

Re: Rock Climbing
 
On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 12:05:43 -0400, the following appeared
in rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys, posted by Mike Romain
<romainm@sympatico.ca>:

>DougW wrote:
>>
>> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>> > Coasty wrote:
>> >> http://www.michelinman.com/differenc...01102005a.html
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> > LMAO! It'll pick up snow and ice or mud and rocks, depending where you
>> > live, and throw off the balance of the wheel. Having said that,
>> > Michelin makes good "normal" tires. I've improved ride, handling and
>> > traction by removing Goodyear tires and replacing them with equivalent
>> > Michelins on several vehicles (one Jeep).

>>
>> And can you imagine how it would throw that debris on the highway. :O
>>
>> I'd be interested to see how that design handles lateral stress. Might
>> make a good airless spare but I doubt it's any good for offroading.
>>
>> --
>> DougW

>
>Didn't the Apollo Moon Buggy use tires something like that back in the
>60's and 70's? They had a horrendous time with them throwing debris.
>
>They could make a nice light spare though.


Except that, as I read the press release, it's actually
*heavier* than a regular tire:

"The Tweel prototype, demonstrated on the Audi A4, is within
five percent of the rolling resistance and mass levels of
current pneumatic tires. That translates to within one
percent of the fuel economy of the OE fitment."

If the mass were 5% *lower* it wouldn't have been phrased
that way.

And I wonder how (actually, "if") it can be adjusted for
varying loads...or if that's necessary.
--

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless

Bob Casanova 10-01-2006 02:24 PM

Re: Rock Climbing
 
On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 12:05:43 -0400, the following appeared
in rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys, posted by Mike Romain
<romainm@sympatico.ca>:

>DougW wrote:
>>
>> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>> > Coasty wrote:
>> >> http://www.michelinman.com/differenc...01102005a.html
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> > LMAO! It'll pick up snow and ice or mud and rocks, depending where you
>> > live, and throw off the balance of the wheel. Having said that,
>> > Michelin makes good "normal" tires. I've improved ride, handling and
>> > traction by removing Goodyear tires and replacing them with equivalent
>> > Michelins on several vehicles (one Jeep).

>>
>> And can you imagine how it would throw that debris on the highway. :O
>>
>> I'd be interested to see how that design handles lateral stress. Might
>> make a good airless spare but I doubt it's any good for offroading.
>>
>> --
>> DougW

>
>Didn't the Apollo Moon Buggy use tires something like that back in the
>60's and 70's? They had a horrendous time with them throwing debris.
>
>They could make a nice light spare though.


Except that, as I read the press release, it's actually
*heavier* than a regular tire:

"The Tweel prototype, demonstrated on the Audi A4, is within
five percent of the rolling resistance and mass levels of
current pneumatic tires. That translates to within one
percent of the fuel economy of the OE fitment."

If the mass were 5% *lower* it wouldn't have been phrased
that way.

And I wonder how (actually, "if") it can be adjusted for
varying loads...or if that's necessary.
--

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless

Matt Macchiarolo 10-01-2006 10:12 PM

Re: Rock Climbing
 
Good point on keeping balance. While they may work well, those things remind
me of a wicker chair.

"Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message
news:UJQTg.2001$Ka1.266@news01.roc.ny...
> Coasty wrote:
>> http://www.michelinman.com/differenc...01102005a.html
>>
>>
>>

> LMAO! It'll pick up snow and ice or mud and rocks, depending where you
> live, and throw off the balance of the wheel. Having said that, Michelin
> makes good "normal" tires. I've improved ride, handling and traction by
> removing Goodyear tires and replacing them with equivalent Michelins on
> several vehicles (one Jeep).
>
> --
> FRH




Matt Macchiarolo 10-01-2006 10:12 PM

Re: Rock Climbing
 
Good point on keeping balance. While they may work well, those things remind
me of a wicker chair.

"Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message
news:UJQTg.2001$Ka1.266@news01.roc.ny...
> Coasty wrote:
>> http://www.michelinman.com/differenc...01102005a.html
>>
>>
>>

> LMAO! It'll pick up snow and ice or mud and rocks, depending where you
> live, and throw off the balance of the wheel. Having said that, Michelin
> makes good "normal" tires. I've improved ride, handling and traction by
> removing Goodyear tires and replacing them with equivalent Michelins on
> several vehicles (one Jeep).
>
> --
> FRH




Matt Macchiarolo 10-01-2006 10:12 PM

Re: Rock Climbing
 
Good point on keeping balance. While they may work well, those things remind
me of a wicker chair.

"Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message
news:UJQTg.2001$Ka1.266@news01.roc.ny...
> Coasty wrote:
>> http://www.michelinman.com/differenc...01102005a.html
>>
>>
>>

> LMAO! It'll pick up snow and ice or mud and rocks, depending where you
> live, and throw off the balance of the wheel. Having said that, Michelin
> makes good "normal" tires. I've improved ride, handling and traction by
> removing Goodyear tires and replacing them with equivalent Michelins on
> several vehicles (one Jeep).
>
> --
> FRH




Stupendous Man 10-02-2006 12:45 PM

Re: Rock Climbing
 
They would be cool on a motorcycle.
--
Stupendous Man,
Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty



Stupendous Man 10-02-2006 12:45 PM

Re: Rock Climbing
 
They would be cool on a motorcycle.
--
Stupendous Man,
Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty



Stupendous Man 10-02-2006 12:45 PM

Re: Rock Climbing
 
They would be cool on a motorcycle.
--
Stupendous Man,
Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty




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