Re: RIM SIZE FOR 2006 WRANGLER X
 

On Aug 29, 2:28 pm, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
> On Aug 29, 1:27 pm, "Bill Spiliotopoulos" <vsp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > > One question.....does anyone have any input regarding the 2" spacer
> > > lifts that come with bar pin eliminators (shock extensions) instead of
> > > longer shocks? Are they safe?
>
> > Yes they are safe.
> > You can still use the stock shocks and save money (plus retain the stock
> > soft ride).
> > The most important is to get a budjet boost kit that has the bump-stop
> > extensions. 2" for the back and 1.5" for the front. And be sure that they
> > will be installed.
>
> > For bar pin eliminators you can make a simple check though to be sure that
> > they will function ok.
> > They must relocate the one end of the shock (compress the shock) for the
> > same length as that of the bump-stop extension spacer used in that axle. If
> > this is verified ok, then you have nothing to worry about.
>
> > Bill Spiliotopoulos,
> > '96 XJ,
> > '06 TJ.
>
> Why doesn't the front use the 2" extended bump stops as well like the
> rear?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I found extended bump stops that are good for 2.5" to 4" lift kits.
Will these work with a 2" or a 2.25" spacer lift kit since neither of
these is quite 2.5"?

Re: RIM SIZE FOR 2006 WRANGLER X
 

Tracie wrote:

> I found extended bump stops that are good for 2.5" to 4" lift kits.
> Will these work with a 2" or a 2.25" spacer lift kit since neither of
> these is quite 2.5"?
>

Yes, go with the ones for a 2.5" lift.

tw

Re: RIM SIZE FOR 2006 WRANGLER X
 

Tracie wrote:

> I found extended bump stops that are good for 2.5" to 4" lift kits.
> Will these work with a 2" or a 2.25" spacer lift kit since neither of
> these is quite 2.5"?
>

Yes, go with the ones for a 2.5" lift.

tw

Re: RIM SIZE FOR 2006 WRANGLER X
 

Tracie wrote:

> I found extended bump stops that are good for 2.5" to 4" lift kits.
> Will these work with a 2" or a 2.25" spacer lift kit since neither of
> these is quite 2.5"?
>

Yes, go with the ones for a 2.5" lift.

tw

Re: RIM SIZE FOR 2006 WRANGLER X
 

Tracie wrote:

> I found extended bump stops that are good for 2.5" to 4" lift kits.
> Will these work with a 2" or a 2.25" spacer lift kit since neither of
> these is quite 2.5"?
>

Yes, go with the ones for a 2.5" lift.

tw

Re: RIM SIZE FOR 2006 WRANGLER X
 

The stock rear springs are shorter and stiffer. So since you raise the rear
2", you need a 2" bump stop extension to prevent the rear springs from being
over-compressed and get deformed. This way the articulation in the rear
stays the same as before the lift.

In the front, the stock springs are longer and softer, and so you can use a
shorter bump stop extension and achieve 0.5" more articulation when the
wheel is pushed up. The front springs won't be strained much if compressed
0.5" more than stock.

You also need the bump stop extensions to ensure that the larger tires won't
rub on the fenders.

When a wheel is in the air and hangs down, the suspension travel is limited
by the shock's travel. You need either longer shocks or shock extensions
(bar pin eliminators) to restore suspension travel (articulation) to stock
or a bit more. However, bar pin eliminators (BPE) I have seen on the market,
usually compress the shocks only about 3/4" which is not enough. If you can
find BPE which relocate the shock 1.5" or 2", then ok. Otherwise you have
to construct your own, or easier get longer shocks.

The Terraflex kit (advertised as 1.5" spacers) is actually 2" spacers and
has the correct bump stop kit extenders.

Bill Spiliotopoulos,
'96 XJ,
'06 TJ.


? "Tracie" <brainart@upstate.edu> ?????? ??? ??????
news:1188412121.797573.26970@d55g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
> On Aug 29, 1:27 pm, "Bill Spiliotopoulos" <vsp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > One question.....does anyone have any input regarding the 2" spacer
>> > lifts that come with bar pin eliminators (shock extensions) instead of
>> > longer shocks? Are they safe?
>>
>> Yes they are safe.
>> You can still use the stock shocks and save money (plus retain the stock
>> soft ride).
>> The most important is to get a budjet boost kit that has the bump-stop
>> extensions. 2" for the back and 1.5" for the front. And be sure that they
>> will be installed.
>>
>> For bar pin eliminators you can make a simple check though to be sure
>> that
>> they will function ok.
>> They must relocate the one end of the shock (compress the shock) for the
>> same length as that of the bump-stop extension spacer used in that axle.
>> If
>> this is verified ok, then you have nothing to worry about.
>>
>> Bill Spiliotopoulos,
>> '96 XJ,
>> '06 TJ.
>
> Why doesn't the front use the 2" extended bump stops as well like the
> rear?
>

Re: RIM SIZE FOR 2006 WRANGLER X
 

The stock rear springs are shorter and stiffer. So since you raise the rear
2", you need a 2" bump stop extension to prevent the rear springs from being
over-compressed and get deformed. This way the articulation in the rear
stays the same as before the lift.

In the front, the stock springs are longer and softer, and so you can use a
shorter bump stop extension and achieve 0.5" more articulation when the
wheel is pushed up. The front springs won't be strained much if compressed
0.5" more than stock.

You also need the bump stop extensions to ensure that the larger tires won't
rub on the fenders.

When a wheel is in the air and hangs down, the suspension travel is limited
by the shock's travel. You need either longer shocks or shock extensions
(bar pin eliminators) to restore suspension travel (articulation) to stock
or a bit more. However, bar pin eliminators (BPE) I have seen on the market,
usually compress the shocks only about 3/4" which is not enough. If you can
find BPE which relocate the shock 1.5" or 2", then ok. Otherwise you have
to construct your own, or easier get longer shocks.

The Terraflex kit (advertised as 1.5" spacers) is actually 2" spacers and
has the correct bump stop kit extenders.

Bill Spiliotopoulos,
'96 XJ,
'06 TJ.


? "Tracie" <brainart@upstate.edu> ?????? ??? ??????
news:1188412121.797573.26970@d55g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
> On Aug 29, 1:27 pm, "Bill Spiliotopoulos" <vsp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > One question.....does anyone have any input regarding the 2" spacer
>> > lifts that come with bar pin eliminators (shock extensions) instead of
>> > longer shocks? Are they safe?
>>
>> Yes they are safe.
>> You can still use the stock shocks and save money (plus retain the stock
>> soft ride).
>> The most important is to get a budjet boost kit that has the bump-stop
>> extensions. 2" for the back and 1.5" for the front. And be sure that they
>> will be installed.
>>
>> For bar pin eliminators you can make a simple check though to be sure
>> that
>> they will function ok.
>> They must relocate the one end of the shock (compress the shock) for the
>> same length as that of the bump-stop extension spacer used in that axle.
>> If
>> this is verified ok, then you have nothing to worry about.
>>
>> Bill Spiliotopoulos,
>> '96 XJ,
>> '06 TJ.
>
> Why doesn't the front use the 2" extended bump stops as well like the
> rear?
>

Re: RIM SIZE FOR 2006 WRANGLER X
 

The stock rear springs are shorter and stiffer. So since you raise the rear
2", you need a 2" bump stop extension to prevent the rear springs from being
over-compressed and get deformed. This way the articulation in the rear
stays the same as before the lift.

In the front, the stock springs are longer and softer, and so you can use a
shorter bump stop extension and achieve 0.5" more articulation when the
wheel is pushed up. The front springs won't be strained much if compressed
0.5" more than stock.

You also need the bump stop extensions to ensure that the larger tires won't
rub on the fenders.

When a wheel is in the air and hangs down, the suspension travel is limited
by the shock's travel. You need either longer shocks or shock extensions
(bar pin eliminators) to restore suspension travel (articulation) to stock
or a bit more. However, bar pin eliminators (BPE) I have seen on the market,
usually compress the shocks only about 3/4" which is not enough. If you can
find BPE which relocate the shock 1.5" or 2", then ok. Otherwise you have
to construct your own, or easier get longer shocks.

The Terraflex kit (advertised as 1.5" spacers) is actually 2" spacers and
has the correct bump stop kit extenders.

Bill Spiliotopoulos,
'96 XJ,
'06 TJ.


? "Tracie" <brainart@upstate.edu> ?????? ??? ??????
news:1188412121.797573.26970@d55g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
> On Aug 29, 1:27 pm, "Bill Spiliotopoulos" <vsp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > One question.....does anyone have any input regarding the 2" spacer
>> > lifts that come with bar pin eliminators (shock extensions) instead of
>> > longer shocks? Are they safe?
>>
>> Yes they are safe.
>> You can still use the stock shocks and save money (plus retain the stock
>> soft ride).
>> The most important is to get a budjet boost kit that has the bump-stop
>> extensions. 2" for the back and 1.5" for the front. And be sure that they
>> will be installed.
>>
>> For bar pin eliminators you can make a simple check though to be sure
>> that
>> they will function ok.
>> They must relocate the one end of the shock (compress the shock) for the
>> same length as that of the bump-stop extension spacer used in that axle.
>> If
>> this is verified ok, then you have nothing to worry about.
>>
>> Bill Spiliotopoulos,
>> '96 XJ,
>> '06 TJ.
>
> Why doesn't the front use the 2" extended bump stops as well like the
> rear?
>

Re: RIM SIZE FOR 2006 WRANGLER X
 

The stock rear springs are shorter and stiffer. So since you raise the rear
2", you need a 2" bump stop extension to prevent the rear springs from being
over-compressed and get deformed. This way the articulation in the rear
stays the same as before the lift.

In the front, the stock springs are longer and softer, and so you can use a
shorter bump stop extension and achieve 0.5" more articulation when the
wheel is pushed up. The front springs won't be strained much if compressed
0.5" more than stock.

You also need the bump stop extensions to ensure that the larger tires won't
rub on the fenders.

When a wheel is in the air and hangs down, the suspension travel is limited
by the shock's travel. You need either longer shocks or shock extensions
(bar pin eliminators) to restore suspension travel (articulation) to stock
or a bit more. However, bar pin eliminators (BPE) I have seen on the market,
usually compress the shocks only about 3/4" which is not enough. If you can
find BPE which relocate the shock 1.5" or 2", then ok. Otherwise you have
to construct your own, or easier get longer shocks.

The Terraflex kit (advertised as 1.5" spacers) is actually 2" spacers and
has the correct bump stop kit extenders.

Bill Spiliotopoulos,
'96 XJ,
'06 TJ.


? "Tracie" <brainart@upstate.edu> ?????? ??? ??????
news:1188412121.797573.26970@d55g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
> On Aug 29, 1:27 pm, "Bill Spiliotopoulos" <vsp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > One question.....does anyone have any input regarding the 2" spacer
>> > lifts that come with bar pin eliminators (shock extensions) instead of
>> > longer shocks? Are they safe?
>>
>> Yes they are safe.
>> You can still use the stock shocks and save money (plus retain the stock
>> soft ride).
>> The most important is to get a budjet boost kit that has the bump-stop
>> extensions. 2" for the back and 1.5" for the front. And be sure that they
>> will be installed.
>>
>> For bar pin eliminators you can make a simple check though to be sure
>> that
>> they will function ok.
>> They must relocate the one end of the shock (compress the shock) for the
>> same length as that of the bump-stop extension spacer used in that axle.
>> If
>> this is verified ok, then you have nothing to worry about.
>>
>> Bill Spiliotopoulos,
>> '96 XJ,
>> '06 TJ.
>
> Why doesn't the front use the 2" extended bump stops as well like the
> rear?
>

Re: RIM SIZE FOR 2006 WRANGLER X
 

Bill Spiliotopoulos wrote:
> The stock rear springs are shorter and stiffer. So since you raise the rear
> 2", you need a 2" bump stop extension to prevent the rear springs from being
> over-compressed and get deformed. This way the articulation in the rear
> stays the same as before the lift.
>
> In the front, the stock springs are longer and softer, and so you can use a
> shorter bump stop extension and achieve 0.5" more articulation when the
> wheel is pushed up. The front springs won't be strained much if compressed
> 0.5" more than stock.
>
> You also need the bump stop extensions to ensure that the larger tires won't
> rub on the fenders.
>
> When a wheel is in the air and hangs down, the suspension travel is limited
> by the shock's travel. You need either longer shocks or shock extensions
> (bar pin eliminators) to restore suspension travel (articulation) to stock
> or a bit more. However, bar pin eliminators (BPE) I have seen on the market,
> usually compress the shocks only about 3/4" which is not enough. If you can
> find BPE which relocate the shock 1.5" or 2", then ok. Otherwise you have
> to construct your own, or easier get longer shocks.
>
> The Terraflex kit (advertised as 1.5" spacers) is actually 2" spacers and
> has the correct bump stop kit extenders.
>
> Bill Spiliotopoulos,
> '96 XJ,
> '06 TJ.

A suspension should NEVER be limited by the shock's travel. A shock that
limits travel would be an ex-shock soon enough. Your suspension's travel
should be limited by spring compression and ultimately the bumpstop.

tw