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smitty 06-18-2004 02:20 AM

REQ INFO: One Piece Axel
 
I just replaced the inner and outer seal and bearing/race on an AMC 20 rear
axel. I removed the hub from the axel to get this done.

How is this done with a one piece axel? Seems to me changing seals and
bearings with a one piece would be the same as changing them without
separating hub from axel on a two piece. Is this correct? If so is that
difficult, setting the race while dealing with the break assembly, outer
seal, dust cover and hub?



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 06-18-2004 05:07 AM

Re: REQ INFO: One Piece Axel
 
You would cut the retaining ring that was pressed on to your axle.
I hope you marked the hub or you'll be buying one piece axles before
long: http://www.----------.com/amc20hub.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

smitty wrote:
>
> I just replaced the inner and outer seal and bearing/race on an AMC 20 rear
> axel. I removed the hub from the axel to get this done.
>
> How is this done with a one piece axel? Seems to me changing seals and
> bearings with a one piece would be the same as changing them without
> separating hub from axel on a two piece. Is this correct? If so is that
> difficult, setting the race while dealing with the break assembly, outer
> seal, dust cover and hub?


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 06-18-2004 05:07 AM

Re: REQ INFO: One Piece Axel
 
You would cut the retaining ring that was pressed on to your axle.
I hope you marked the hub or you'll be buying one piece axles before
long: http://www.----------.com/amc20hub.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

smitty wrote:
>
> I just replaced the inner and outer seal and bearing/race on an AMC 20 rear
> axel. I removed the hub from the axel to get this done.
>
> How is this done with a one piece axel? Seems to me changing seals and
> bearings with a one piece would be the same as changing them without
> separating hub from axel on a two piece. Is this correct? If so is that
> difficult, setting the race while dealing with the break assembly, outer
> seal, dust cover and hub?


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 06-18-2004 05:07 AM

Re: REQ INFO: One Piece Axel
 
You would cut the retaining ring that was pressed on to your axle.
I hope you marked the hub or you'll be buying one piece axles before
long: http://www.----------.com/amc20hub.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

smitty wrote:
>
> I just replaced the inner and outer seal and bearing/race on an AMC 20 rear
> axel. I removed the hub from the axel to get this done.
>
> How is this done with a one piece axel? Seems to me changing seals and
> bearings with a one piece would be the same as changing them without
> separating hub from axel on a two piece. Is this correct? If so is that
> difficult, setting the race while dealing with the break assembly, outer
> seal, dust cover and hub?


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 06-18-2004 05:07 AM

Re: REQ INFO: One Piece Axel
 
You would cut the retaining ring that was pressed on to your axle.
I hope you marked the hub or you'll be buying one piece axles before
long: http://www.----------.com/amc20hub.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

smitty wrote:
>
> I just replaced the inner and outer seal and bearing/race on an AMC 20 rear
> axel. I removed the hub from the axel to get this done.
>
> How is this done with a one piece axel? Seems to me changing seals and
> bearings with a one piece would be the same as changing them without
> separating hub from axel on a two piece. Is this correct? If so is that
> difficult, setting the race while dealing with the break assembly, outer
> seal, dust cover and hub?


Rod Gramlich 06-18-2004 04:30 PM

Re: REQ INFO: One Piece Axel
 

"smitty" <mud33@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:10d52d26rs07l4d@corp.supernews.com...
> I just replaced the inner and outer seal and bearing/race on an AMC 20

rear
> axel. I removed the hub from the axel to get this done.
>
> How is this done with a one piece axel? Seems to me changing seals and
> bearings with a one piece would be the same as changing them without
> separating hub from axel on a two piece. Is this correct?


Bearing on the one piece (at least on mine, which originally came from
Genine Gear Co., I believe (don't know who they may be these days) seats on
shaft OUTSIDE the inner seal. Lubrication for that bearing is via a grease
nipple in the dust cap cover / axle retainer. Generally speaking,
differential leakage via the axle tubes occurs because the inner seal is
gone. To change this seal requires removal of the axle (which does require
unbolting the retainer), but does NOT require brg. removal and repressing.
In fact, it's easy to change the seals on the axles I have (as I recall,
they were axle kits H1 and H2 ... i.e. different lengths in the AMC-20??
diff.).



Rod Gramlich 06-18-2004 04:30 PM

Re: REQ INFO: One Piece Axel
 

"smitty" <mud33@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:10d52d26rs07l4d@corp.supernews.com...
> I just replaced the inner and outer seal and bearing/race on an AMC 20

rear
> axel. I removed the hub from the axel to get this done.
>
> How is this done with a one piece axel? Seems to me changing seals and
> bearings with a one piece would be the same as changing them without
> separating hub from axel on a two piece. Is this correct?


Bearing on the one piece (at least on mine, which originally came from
Genine Gear Co., I believe (don't know who they may be these days) seats on
shaft OUTSIDE the inner seal. Lubrication for that bearing is via a grease
nipple in the dust cap cover / axle retainer. Generally speaking,
differential leakage via the axle tubes occurs because the inner seal is
gone. To change this seal requires removal of the axle (which does require
unbolting the retainer), but does NOT require brg. removal and repressing.
In fact, it's easy to change the seals on the axles I have (as I recall,
they were axle kits H1 and H2 ... i.e. different lengths in the AMC-20??
diff.).



Rod Gramlich 06-18-2004 04:30 PM

Re: REQ INFO: One Piece Axel
 

"smitty" <mud33@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:10d52d26rs07l4d@corp.supernews.com...
> I just replaced the inner and outer seal and bearing/race on an AMC 20

rear
> axel. I removed the hub from the axel to get this done.
>
> How is this done with a one piece axel? Seems to me changing seals and
> bearings with a one piece would be the same as changing them without
> separating hub from axel on a two piece. Is this correct?


Bearing on the one piece (at least on mine, which originally came from
Genine Gear Co., I believe (don't know who they may be these days) seats on
shaft OUTSIDE the inner seal. Lubrication for that bearing is via a grease
nipple in the dust cap cover / axle retainer. Generally speaking,
differential leakage via the axle tubes occurs because the inner seal is
gone. To change this seal requires removal of the axle (which does require
unbolting the retainer), but does NOT require brg. removal and repressing.
In fact, it's easy to change the seals on the axles I have (as I recall,
they were axle kits H1 and H2 ... i.e. different lengths in the AMC-20??
diff.).



Rod Gramlich 06-18-2004 04:30 PM

Re: REQ INFO: One Piece Axel
 

"smitty" <mud33@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:10d52d26rs07l4d@corp.supernews.com...
> I just replaced the inner and outer seal and bearing/race on an AMC 20

rear
> axel. I removed the hub from the axel to get this done.
>
> How is this done with a one piece axel? Seems to me changing seals and
> bearings with a one piece would be the same as changing them without
> separating hub from axel on a two piece. Is this correct?


Bearing on the one piece (at least on mine, which originally came from
Genine Gear Co., I believe (don't know who they may be these days) seats on
shaft OUTSIDE the inner seal. Lubrication for that bearing is via a grease
nipple in the dust cap cover / axle retainer. Generally speaking,
differential leakage via the axle tubes occurs because the inner seal is
gone. To change this seal requires removal of the axle (which does require
unbolting the retainer), but does NOT require brg. removal and repressing.
In fact, it's easy to change the seals on the axles I have (as I recall,
they were axle kits H1 and H2 ... i.e. different lengths in the AMC-20??
diff.).



CRWLR 06-18-2004 06:10 PM

Re: REQ INFO: One Piece Axel
 
On the one-piece axles, the brake backingplate holds the axles in place. The
seal goes on the inside of the bearings, so when the axles are removed, you
can take the seals off and put new ones on. The bearings are pressed onto
the axles with the brake backing plates set in place first.




"smitty" <mud33@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:10d52d26rs07l4d@corp.supernews.com...
> I just replaced the inner and outer seal and bearing/race on an AMC 20

rear
> axel. I removed the hub from the axel to get this done.
>
> How is this done with a one piece axel? Seems to me changing seals and
> bearings with a one piece would be the same as changing them without
> separating hub from axel on a two piece. Is this correct? If so is that
> difficult, setting the race while dealing with the break assembly, outer
> seal, dust cover and hub?
>
>





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