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Tracie 05-15-2007 10:50 AM

Re: REPLACEMENT OF FACTORY HINGES
 
On May 15, 10:20 am, twaldron <twald...@OBVIOUSaol.com> wrote:
> I agree with Mike. Toss the nuts into your toolbox or the trash. Your
> doors will not rattle when closed unless you have other problems. CJs
> did not come with nuts on these pins and I don't remember them on my YJ
> either. In any case, this is not the source of your noise.
>
> tw
>
>
>
>
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > The old Jeeps didn't have safety nuts and most folks I know toss them
> > the first time they take off the doors.

>
> > I would look to the repairs for the noise.

>
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

>
> > Tracie wrote:

>
> >> Hello all. I have a 2006WranglerX that I just replaced the factory
> >> windshield, hood, and upper/lower door hinges with stainless steel
> >> hinges. There is now one problem that I can't seem to figure out how
> >> to fix. There is some play in the hinges between where the nut screws
> >> on the bottom of the pin and where the pin is soldered to thehinge.
> >> Unfortunately, those nuts only screw on so far. In other words, I can
> >> grab ahold of the bottom of both doors and lift them up about 1/8 of
> >> an inch or a just a tad more. I think this is what is causing the
> >> rattling noise that I am hearing everytime I hit a bump such as
> >> railroad tracks, potholes, manhole covers, etc. I do not hear this
> >> rattling noise everytime, only when the above happens or when I hit a
> >> certain bump just right. The rattling sounds like it is coming from
> >> the front middle of the truck, but I never heard this noise before
> >> until replacing the hinges. Also, I just had my clutch replaced
> >> (faulty factory clutch) at the same time that I had my hinges
> >> replaced. Could the rattling noise be coming from something relating
> >> to the clutch installation (i.e. not tightening something or putting
> >> it in properly) or do you think it is from the hinges? Any help and
> >> DEFINITELY some suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated.

>
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Thanks for the advice. I am going to call the dealership that did the
repairs and have them look at it to make sure everything is the way it
should be. AND I did figure out that it is NOT the hinges. I took
BOTH doors off after I posted my original questions and drove around
over some bumps and still heard the noise. One other question
though.....could it possibly be the windshield hinges? They had to be
tweaked a little to fit, and I am just wondering if the windshield
frame itself could be off. If so, is there a way to tell? THANKS
AGAIN.


Tracie 05-15-2007 10:50 AM

Re: REPLACEMENT OF FACTORY HINGES
 
On May 15, 10:20 am, twaldron <twald...@OBVIOUSaol.com> wrote:
> I agree with Mike. Toss the nuts into your toolbox or the trash. Your
> doors will not rattle when closed unless you have other problems. CJs
> did not come with nuts on these pins and I don't remember them on my YJ
> either. In any case, this is not the source of your noise.
>
> tw
>
>
>
>
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > The old Jeeps didn't have safety nuts and most folks I know toss them
> > the first time they take off the doors.

>
> > I would look to the repairs for the noise.

>
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

>
> > Tracie wrote:

>
> >> Hello all. I have a 2006WranglerX that I just replaced the factory
> >> windshield, hood, and upper/lower door hinges with stainless steel
> >> hinges. There is now one problem that I can't seem to figure out how
> >> to fix. There is some play in the hinges between where the nut screws
> >> on the bottom of the pin and where the pin is soldered to thehinge.
> >> Unfortunately, those nuts only screw on so far. In other words, I can
> >> grab ahold of the bottom of both doors and lift them up about 1/8 of
> >> an inch or a just a tad more. I think this is what is causing the
> >> rattling noise that I am hearing everytime I hit a bump such as
> >> railroad tracks, potholes, manhole covers, etc. I do not hear this
> >> rattling noise everytime, only when the above happens or when I hit a
> >> certain bump just right. The rattling sounds like it is coming from
> >> the front middle of the truck, but I never heard this noise before
> >> until replacing the hinges. Also, I just had my clutch replaced
> >> (faulty factory clutch) at the same time that I had my hinges
> >> replaced. Could the rattling noise be coming from something relating
> >> to the clutch installation (i.e. not tightening something or putting
> >> it in properly) or do you think it is from the hinges? Any help and
> >> DEFINITELY some suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated.

>
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>
> - Show quoted text -


Thanks for the advice. I am going to call the dealership that did the
repairs and have them look at it to make sure everything is the way it
should be. AND I did figure out that it is NOT the hinges. I took
BOTH doors off after I posted my original questions and drove around
over some bumps and still heard the noise. One other question
though.....could it possibly be the windshield hinges? They had to be
tweaked a little to fit, and I am just wondering if the windshield
frame itself could be off. If so, is there a way to tell? THANKS
AGAIN.


Tracie 05-15-2007 10:50 AM

Re: REPLACEMENT OF FACTORY HINGES
 
On May 15, 10:20 am, twaldron <twald...@OBVIOUSaol.com> wrote:
> I agree with Mike. Toss the nuts into your toolbox or the trash. Your
> doors will not rattle when closed unless you have other problems. CJs
> did not come with nuts on these pins and I don't remember them on my YJ
> either. In any case, this is not the source of your noise.
>
> tw
>
>
>
>
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > The old Jeeps didn't have safety nuts and most folks I know toss them
> > the first time they take off the doors.

>
> > I would look to the repairs for the noise.

>
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

>
> > Tracie wrote:

>
> >> Hello all. I have a 2006WranglerX that I just replaced the factory
> >> windshield, hood, and upper/lower door hinges with stainless steel
> >> hinges. There is now one problem that I can't seem to figure out how
> >> to fix. There is some play in the hinges between where the nut screws
> >> on the bottom of the pin and where the pin is soldered to thehinge.
> >> Unfortunately, those nuts only screw on so far. In other words, I can
> >> grab ahold of the bottom of both doors and lift them up about 1/8 of
> >> an inch or a just a tad more. I think this is what is causing the
> >> rattling noise that I am hearing everytime I hit a bump such as
> >> railroad tracks, potholes, manhole covers, etc. I do not hear this
> >> rattling noise everytime, only when the above happens or when I hit a
> >> certain bump just right. The rattling sounds like it is coming from
> >> the front middle of the truck, but I never heard this noise before
> >> until replacing the hinges. Also, I just had my clutch replaced
> >> (faulty factory clutch) at the same time that I had my hinges
> >> replaced. Could the rattling noise be coming from something relating
> >> to the clutch installation (i.e. not tightening something or putting
> >> it in properly) or do you think it is from the hinges? Any help and
> >> DEFINITELY some suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated.

>
> --
> PLEASE REMOVE THE "OBVIOUS" TO REPLY.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Thanks for the advice. I am going to call the dealership that did the
repairs and have them look at it to make sure everything is the way it
should be. AND I did figure out that it is NOT the hinges. I took
BOTH doors off after I posted my original questions and drove around
over some bumps and still heard the noise. One other question
though.....could it possibly be the windshield hinges? They had to be
tweaked a little to fit, and I am just wondering if the windshield
frame itself could be off. If so, is there a way to tell? THANKS
AGAIN.


twaldron 05-15-2007 11:11 AM

Re: REPLACEMENT OF FACTORY HINGES
 
Never, EVER "tweak" new parts to fit a damaged vehicle. Always
repair/replace ALL of the damaged parts, unless you are trying to 'cheap
out' for some reason and want to pass off the shoddy workmanship to the
next lucky owner. If you paid a dealer to fix this for you and they
performed this poor quality of repairs on their own, have them tear it
down and replace ALL of the damaged parts and restore it with NEW,
UNTWEAKED parts.

tw

>
>
> Thanks for the advice. I am going to call the dealership that did the
> repairs and have them look at it to make sure everything is the way it
> should be. AND I did figure out that it is NOT the hinges. I took
> BOTH doors off after I posted my original questions and drove around
> over some bumps and still heard the noise. One other question
> though.....could it possibly be the windshield hinges? They had to be
> tweaked a little to fit, and I am just wondering if the windshield
> frame itself could be off. If so, is there a way to tell? THANKS
> AGAIN.
>



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twaldron 05-15-2007 11:11 AM

Re: REPLACEMENT OF FACTORY HINGES
 
Never, EVER "tweak" new parts to fit a damaged vehicle. Always
repair/replace ALL of the damaged parts, unless you are trying to 'cheap
out' for some reason and want to pass off the shoddy workmanship to the
next lucky owner. If you paid a dealer to fix this for you and they
performed this poor quality of repairs on their own, have them tear it
down and replace ALL of the damaged parts and restore it with NEW,
UNTWEAKED parts.

tw

>
>
> Thanks for the advice. I am going to call the dealership that did the
> repairs and have them look at it to make sure everything is the way it
> should be. AND I did figure out that it is NOT the hinges. I took
> BOTH doors off after I posted my original questions and drove around
> over some bumps and still heard the noise. One other question
> though.....could it possibly be the windshield hinges? They had to be
> tweaked a little to fit, and I am just wondering if the windshield
> frame itself could be off. If so, is there a way to tell? THANKS
> AGAIN.
>



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twaldron 05-15-2007 11:11 AM

Re: REPLACEMENT OF FACTORY HINGES
 
Never, EVER "tweak" new parts to fit a damaged vehicle. Always
repair/replace ALL of the damaged parts, unless you are trying to 'cheap
out' for some reason and want to pass off the shoddy workmanship to the
next lucky owner. If you paid a dealer to fix this for you and they
performed this poor quality of repairs on their own, have them tear it
down and replace ALL of the damaged parts and restore it with NEW,
UNTWEAKED parts.

tw

>
>
> Thanks for the advice. I am going to call the dealership that did the
> repairs and have them look at it to make sure everything is the way it
> should be. AND I did figure out that it is NOT the hinges. I took
> BOTH doors off after I posted my original questions and drove around
> over some bumps and still heard the noise. One other question
> though.....could it possibly be the windshield hinges? They had to be
> tweaked a little to fit, and I am just wondering if the windshield
> frame itself could be off. If so, is there a way to tell? THANKS
> AGAIN.
>



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twaldron 05-15-2007 11:11 AM

Re: REPLACEMENT OF FACTORY HINGES
 
Never, EVER "tweak" new parts to fit a damaged vehicle. Always
repair/replace ALL of the damaged parts, unless you are trying to 'cheap
out' for some reason and want to pass off the shoddy workmanship to the
next lucky owner. If you paid a dealer to fix this for you and they
performed this poor quality of repairs on their own, have them tear it
down and replace ALL of the damaged parts and restore it with NEW,
UNTWEAKED parts.

tw

>
>
> Thanks for the advice. I am going to call the dealership that did the
> repairs and have them look at it to make sure everything is the way it
> should be. AND I did figure out that it is NOT the hinges. I took
> BOTH doors off after I posted my original questions and drove around
> over some bumps and still heard the noise. One other question
> though.....could it possibly be the windshield hinges? They had to be
> tweaked a little to fit, and I am just wondering if the windshield
> frame itself could be off. If so, is there a way to tell? THANKS
> AGAIN.
>



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Earle Horton 05-15-2007 11:39 AM

Re: REPLACEMENT OF FACTORY HINGES
 
Good point, but this poster had aftermarket stainless parts installed on an
otherwise perfectly good vehicle, for "rust prevention". It is not unusual
to see aftermarket windshield hinges with a bend that is not exactly right.

Another possible reason to install stainless hinges is to increase the
"bling" of the vehicle.

http://www.mrbling.com/

Hmm, except for the "faulty factory clutch" complaint there is no indication
of why it is now rattling. I wonder if they forgot to install or tighten a
transfer case mount or something.

The safety nuts on the door hinges shouldn't be an issue. If the doors
close properly they won't be a source of rattles. My YJ came with them
stock.

Earle

"twaldron" <twaldron@OBVIOUSaol.com> wrote in message
news:84k2i.37971$145.5083@trnddc02...
> Never, EVER "tweak" new parts to fit a damaged vehicle. Always
> repair/replace ALL of the damaged parts, unless you are trying to 'cheap
> out' for some reason and want to pass off the shoddy workmanship to the
> next lucky owner. If you paid a dealer to fix this for you and they
> performed this poor quality of repairs on their own, have them tear it
> down and replace ALL of the damaged parts and restore it with NEW,
> UNTWEAKED parts.
>
> tw
>
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the advice. I am going to call the dealership that did the
> > repairs and have them look at it to make sure everything is the way it
> > should be. AND I did figure out that it is NOT the hinges. I took
> > BOTH doors off after I posted my original questions and drove around
> > over some bumps and still heard the noise. One other question
> > though.....could it possibly be the windshield hinges? They had to be
> > tweaked a little to fit, and I am just wondering if the windshield
> > frame itself could be off. If so, is there a way to tell? THANKS
> > AGAIN.
> >

>
>
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> PLEASE REMOVE THE "OBVIOUS" TO REPLY.




Earle Horton 05-15-2007 11:39 AM

Re: REPLACEMENT OF FACTORY HINGES
 
Good point, but this poster had aftermarket stainless parts installed on an
otherwise perfectly good vehicle, for "rust prevention". It is not unusual
to see aftermarket windshield hinges with a bend that is not exactly right.

Another possible reason to install stainless hinges is to increase the
"bling" of the vehicle.

http://www.mrbling.com/

Hmm, except for the "faulty factory clutch" complaint there is no indication
of why it is now rattling. I wonder if they forgot to install or tighten a
transfer case mount or something.

The safety nuts on the door hinges shouldn't be an issue. If the doors
close properly they won't be a source of rattles. My YJ came with them
stock.

Earle

"twaldron" <twaldron@OBVIOUSaol.com> wrote in message
news:84k2i.37971$145.5083@trnddc02...
> Never, EVER "tweak" new parts to fit a damaged vehicle. Always
> repair/replace ALL of the damaged parts, unless you are trying to 'cheap
> out' for some reason and want to pass off the shoddy workmanship to the
> next lucky owner. If you paid a dealer to fix this for you and they
> performed this poor quality of repairs on their own, have them tear it
> down and replace ALL of the damaged parts and restore it with NEW,
> UNTWEAKED parts.
>
> tw
>
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the advice. I am going to call the dealership that did the
> > repairs and have them look at it to make sure everything is the way it
> > should be. AND I did figure out that it is NOT the hinges. I took
> > BOTH doors off after I posted my original questions and drove around
> > over some bumps and still heard the noise. One other question
> > though.....could it possibly be the windshield hinges? They had to be
> > tweaked a little to fit, and I am just wondering if the windshield
> > frame itself could be off. If so, is there a way to tell? THANKS
> > AGAIN.
> >

>
>
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> PLEASE REMOVE THE "OBVIOUS" TO REPLY.




Earle Horton 05-15-2007 11:39 AM

Re: REPLACEMENT OF FACTORY HINGES
 
Good point, but this poster had aftermarket stainless parts installed on an
otherwise perfectly good vehicle, for "rust prevention". It is not unusual
to see aftermarket windshield hinges with a bend that is not exactly right.

Another possible reason to install stainless hinges is to increase the
"bling" of the vehicle.

http://www.mrbling.com/

Hmm, except for the "faulty factory clutch" complaint there is no indication
of why it is now rattling. I wonder if they forgot to install or tighten a
transfer case mount or something.

The safety nuts on the door hinges shouldn't be an issue. If the doors
close properly they won't be a source of rattles. My YJ came with them
stock.

Earle

"twaldron" <twaldron@OBVIOUSaol.com> wrote in message
news:84k2i.37971$145.5083@trnddc02...
> Never, EVER "tweak" new parts to fit a damaged vehicle. Always
> repair/replace ALL of the damaged parts, unless you are trying to 'cheap
> out' for some reason and want to pass off the shoddy workmanship to the
> next lucky owner. If you paid a dealer to fix this for you and they
> performed this poor quality of repairs on their own, have them tear it
> down and replace ALL of the damaged parts and restore it with NEW,
> UNTWEAKED parts.
>
> tw
>
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the advice. I am going to call the dealership that did the
> > repairs and have them look at it to make sure everything is the way it
> > should be. AND I did figure out that it is NOT the hinges. I took
> > BOTH doors off after I posted my original questions and drove around
> > over some bumps and still heard the noise. One other question
> > though.....could it possibly be the windshield hinges? They had to be
> > tweaked a little to fit, and I am just wondering if the windshield
> > frame itself could be off. If so, is there a way to tell? THANKS
> > AGAIN.
> >

>
>
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